FORGOTTEN VLOG | finishing draft 4 of project ☠️☠️ and receiving beta reader feedback

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • Welcome to my first forgotten vlog! From way back in January of 2022, when I finished the 4th draft of Project ☠️☠️, sent it off to my beta reader ‪@TheHexedLibrary‬, and received her feedback! We'll also chat a bit about what changes I'll be making for "draft 5" 👀.
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Комментарии • 60

  • @jazmingalloway3172
    @jazmingalloway3172 2 года назад +36

    I think grading drafts is a great idea.
    I'd probably do it like a book review 1-5 stars.
    One star is probably never completed or shelved project, no matter how much I love it
    If I did my best but it needed some work in the structure, it would hit around 2.5
    If I did my best and it just needed line edits, foreshadowing, better naming, etc. I'd give it a 3 or 3.5
    If I really liked major part but know some background work needs to be done I'd put it at 4
    A 5 star is no rewrites necessary just revisions.

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +5

      OooOOooooh YES! I love your made-up system. I'll have to start using it bahaha.

    • @rokamayono8590
      @rokamayono8590 2 года назад

      Yooo that's a great system! Can I use this too?

  • @TheHexedLibrary
    @TheHexedLibrary 2 года назад +23

    "Let someone else deal with the problems."

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +5

      RIGHT!? I keep telling myself to save it for spooky season but it's getting hard to resist.
      AND VERY EXCITED TO CHAT WITH YOU

  • @reginaduke7451
    @reginaduke7451 2 года назад +22

    Clever Kate! No more armorerererer. LOL Can't wait to see how you handled the change. You are going great guns. Almost 80K???? That's big! "When you are bound and determined to avoid a sequel..." Sending hugs and love. Go, Kate, Go!

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +5

      LOLOL you know I'm trying my hardest to avoid a freaking sequel!! Yes, no more stumbling over my -ererererer hehehe. Thanks Regina!! :)

  • @Aheartofbooks
    @Aheartofbooks 2 года назад +6

    I love how Buffy is so well behaved and Zelda is pure chaos 😂

  • @morgannabr0021
    @morgannabr0021 2 года назад +6

    It's so funny watching this with the captions on. Every time you start typing it says [applause], and with you finishing Project Death it feels like it's cheering for you. You did it!!!

  • @markfloyd734
    @markfloyd734 2 года назад +4

    I am so excited by (and envious of) your enthusiasm for the next draft. I am most excited at the start of projects and I find the editing/rewriting process so difficult, partly because it seems I have the general idea of the story I'm telling but struggling to find the right words for it. Your enthusiasm for a 5th draft is simply amazing. And inspiring! Thanks Kate!!

  • @creativekfaye
    @creativekfaye 2 года назад +2

    I think grading a draft from 0% to 100% is pretty solid. When I finish my first draft, I think I will use your example on grading. Great vlog and I am super excited for you. Thank you for sharing! I love your creative energy.

  • @nicocastillo381
    @nicocastillo381 2 года назад

    Bro ur kitchen seems so high tech to me idk why but literally I come back to visit ur channel every couple months just cause I’m invested on ur writing journey so shoutout

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад

      Bahaha, thanks Nico! Most of the appliances were over 20 years old from when my partner bought the house, so we've slowly been renovating things.

  • @zenebornman7917
    @zenebornman7917 2 года назад +4

    I love how many drafts you go through to make your story "perfect" Kate. I've been working on the first book in my series for 4 years now. Because the first version of it was half the story and what you would call not even a zero draft. 😂😂😂
    But then I changed the entire thing and STILL didn't write "the end" but still considered a zero draft.
    I'm considering the draft now as draft 1 because of HOW MUCH I changed and improved it. Even if I haven't written the end either. But I've written so much and added things I never knew would even fit the story. It's awesome. ❤💙
    No matter how long it takes me to write this entire first book (which I know the series forward will be easier) it will all work out in the end, and it'll be my dream come true! 😍

  • @spicypumpkins2640
    @spicypumpkins2640 2 года назад +1

    This felt like your old vlogs and I love it! Great vibes.

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +1

      Aww yay, I'm glad! Thanks spicy pumpkins (great username)! :)

  • @jordanclairemiddleton1018
    @jordanclairemiddleton1018 2 года назад +3

    OMG Please do a vlog for the mystery puzzle because that sounds SO COOL! (cue nerd powers)

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +2

      Bahaha I absolutely will, just for you!! I'm very excited for it. :)

  • @spinninstareyes
    @spinninstareyes Год назад

    I've been binging your videos between spurts of writing - gotta say, love the bangs hehe. thank you for sharing you've been inspirational as well as helpful!

  • @AbiofPellinor
    @AbiofPellinor 2 года назад +2

    This was such a fun vlog, I'm glad you went back and edited it for us! I think grading can be dangerous if you don't have the right level of self confidence

  • @currentlyearth8867
    @currentlyearth8867 2 года назад +5

    She’s a creator,💃🌎🌏🌍💃.

  • @thelvey1
    @thelvey1 2 года назад +2

    I just wrote THE END for the first time yesterday on a .. well, we'll call it a second draft, I guess. it is almost 180,000 words and has taken me 4 years! Rating it ... hmmm ... maybe after I've read through it start to finish in a month or three (time for a break!).

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +2

      AHH CONGRATULATIONS ON WRITING THE END!!!! That's an awesome feeling. (And 180K words?! You're blowing my mind!) You've put in so much hard work over the last 4 years, I hope you feel so accomplished and are rewarding yourself! :)

  • @AnnaRobbinsWrites
    @AnnaRobbinsWrites 2 года назад +1

    What an AMAZING vlog this was!! Watching this evolution of Project Death is just so exciting. Congratulations on writing "The End"!! This filled me with motivation to get to my next draft and watch the quality curve start to go up lol!

  • @Lisa_Flowers
    @Lisa_Flowers 2 года назад +1

    The funniest thing about the 'armourer' thing is that it took me a WHILE to realize you were saying 'armourer' a.k.a someone who makes armour, and not 'The Armour', a.k.a a living piece of armour. Like I straight up thought the character was an sentient suit of armour LMAO. Part of that might be on my listening to these in the background and having shit memory, but nevertheless i'm glad you're changing it to something easier to say (and hear!)

  • @LauraNettles
    @LauraNettles 2 года назад +2

    Vin in the unicorn! So cute!

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +2

      ONE OF MY BEST PURCHASES EVER. I giggle every time I see her in it, she loves it!

  • @A_Bookish_Obsession
    @A_Bookish_Obsession 2 года назад +2

    Still watching but yeah 'The armorer" (or however it's spelled) is very hard to say especially for someone like me, who has a rhotacism.
    I love when you show clips of Discord and I can see my little icon on it. Lol I literally say it and went "oh hey, that's me!" XD
    Also additional side note I love seeing the timelapses of you typing, it's so satisfying to listen to.
    "The beat beats"
    16:14 Hahahahah Vin went YEET!
    The 2000s Made Me Gay is the best book title ever.

  • @mrfredbasset
    @mrfredbasset 2 года назад +4

    Hypothetical question for project death… what happens in the case of accidents? What if you didn’t know someone was allergic to peanuts. Gave them cake with nuts inside and they died. Would you die too then?

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +4

      Hehehehe, well you ask a very important question central-ish to the story! There are accidents and then there are "accidents" and I explore them both! :) Can't give anything away quite yet though.

  • @jenag
    @jenag 2 года назад

    I will be your first pre-order when Project Death comes out! I've been hearing about it since I started watching your channel. I'm deeply invested!!! lol Please don't give up on it, no matter how many drafts it takes!!! ❤❤❤

  • @terencejohnson4502
    @terencejohnson4502 2 года назад +2

    Interesting to hear your draft process; quite different from mine.
    ‘What do you add in?’ I always add in little details, things someone should have said, expand on a section. Occasionally adding in whole new scenes.
    In one of my novels, I added a whole middle third, (20K) because my mate critiqued the piece. Turned out it needed a middle.
    I usually hand out a “perfect, 100%” fourth draft. My mates sharp correct me. Glad they do, we can never see our own faults. (100% - not actually that vain or that dumb.)

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +1

      Bahaha. "Turned out it needed a middle." I've definitely had moments and stories like that! Those are some great friends by the sounds of it. :)

    • @terencejohnson4502
      @terencejohnson4502 2 года назад

      ​@@KateCavanaugh Hey Kate, thanks for your reply, much appreciated. Nice of you to take the time and effort. Just watched your, "Pets control.." I never fed my dog at a set time. I've found, with dogs, their clocks are always about an hour fast.

  • @kimmartin633
    @kimmartin633 2 года назад

    I love Vin in her little tent looking deal? Of course love the pups but watching her eyes as she fell asleep was so cute! Also you are so inspiring..... I can sit and watch your vlogs continually. ( and not get a thing done here myself LOL) 😆

  • @clintoreilly
    @clintoreilly 2 года назад +2

    I'm on 2nd draft Chap 12 of 24. I know the feeling and I'm assuming you're aware what I'm going through :) All the best on finishing.

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +3

      Sending good luck to you too! We got this!

  • @The_age_of_aquarius_
    @The_age_of_aquarius_ 2 года назад

    Yay, Kate!! Cannot wait to read this book!!!! 🙌🙌
    I’m starting the third draft of my novel in June and it’s gonna be MASSIVE 😅Grade-wise, I’m probably at a 20% right now and I want to try to get that to a 50 or 60% before I dare to let anyone else read it.

  • @AeSunfyre
    @AeSunfyre Год назад

    the minor charakter becoming the main character thing and carrying the story too much-thing happened to one of my stories, too. Sadly I can't write more on it at the moment, because now I don't know how to progress the story anymore :D When you begin to love certain characters too much xD ruins too much :P

  • @kaylagracereads
    @kaylagracereads 2 года назад

    That Darth Vader calendar thoughhh

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад

      My friend got it for me and I LOOOOOOVE it. It makes me happy every day bahaha.

  • @DeeBlaregold
    @DeeBlaregold 2 года назад

    Lovely Vlog and update. The grade for my current project: C-

  • @madelinejameswrites
    @madelinejameswrites 2 года назад

    I like the idea of grading drafts, having some ability to analyze how close it is. It probably would be nearly impossible with the first couple drafts you ever do, just because you're still learning all the things you aren't good at 😂 but I'm about to start what is I guess draft 3? Of my blood magic project and the previous draft was probably... 30%? This next draft is going to be a big rewrite so once all the plot problems are fixed I can really work on polishing!

  • @Neil-writer-author
    @Neil-writer-author 2 года назад +2

    I love your keyboard

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +2

      Thanks Sonya!! My sister-in-law got it for me. It is SO fun to hear the tippy taps. :)

    • @Neil-writer-author
      @Neil-writer-author 2 года назад

      It sounds like a gaming keyboard if that makes sense.

    • @NancyChen53
      @NancyChen53 2 года назад +1

      @@KateCavanaugh what is brand and style of your keyboard? I've been admiring that keyboard and been wanting one for myself, thanks!

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +2

      @@NancyChen53 It's a Ubotie! I think my SIL got it off Amazon! There are several color options too, if something else strikes you more. :)

  • @jazmingalloway3172
    @jazmingalloway3172 2 года назад

    I am not seriously working on anything novel wise but I've been hammering out poetry collections this year (working on my fourth and it's only May!)
    My first collection this year I'd give a 90/100 or 4.5 stars
    My second collection this year I'd give a 85/100 or 4 stars
    My third collection I'd give a 70/100 or 3.5 stars
    Now I know it looks bad cause the numbers are decreasing but that's bc each collection focuses on a different topic and the execution of said topic makes me feel different so it looks worse but for first drafts this is the best it can be as an individual work.

  • @violetjackson943
    @violetjackson943 2 года назад

    i would defintly rate my draft as a 0 because its not nearly as fleshed out as your lol. especially since this is a story I wrote in middle school/highschool and I never completed it on paper. although I have the completed plot in my head, i never tried to write it out as a full fledge story as it was a just a dream for me in the past to do so. now that i moved states away from everything i know for a new great job. i have a lot of free time that i can actually edit and try to make this into a actual novel. you and the other authors on youtube here has made me feel very motivated to actually want to make the child dream a reality. i watch you in the background so many hours while i work on my story the characters and world building that its not even worth grading at this point. i even had 15,000 words written from when i wrote it in my child days.

  • @Neil-writer-author
    @Neil-writer-author 2 года назад

    Have you ever read the alphabet series by sue grafton? It stopped at y because she passed away.

  • @kathleenschwab4645
    @kathleenschwab4645 2 года назад +2

    Was January a long time ago? What day is it?

  • @breemlew
    @breemlew 2 года назад

    I gotta know what makes the names of your projects. Death, blue, purple?

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад

      Lolol. I was going with a color scheme for a while and then because Death is so centric to Project Death, it just became automatic. Maybe one day I'll have better working titles! (Since another, for example, is Murder Mystery Tennessee because it's a murder mystery...in Tennessee. Bahaha.)

  • @masha1980
    @masha1980 2 года назад

    Do a write like Charles bukowski or hunter s Thompson

  • @MikeBates
    @MikeBates 2 года назад

    Will you be doing a complete rewrite or will you work through and revise?

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +1

      So I've created a whole new document, but I'd say the first third or so will have a lot of copy/paste. There will be some more copy/paste later, but the back half will be mostly rewritten.

    • @KateCavanaugh
      @KateCavanaugh  2 года назад +1

      So I guess, revise the first 50%, rewrite the back half? Bahaha.

    • @MikeBates
      @MikeBates 2 года назад

      @@KateCavanaugh I'm working on editing my WIP and figure I'll be doing close to the same. I got 110k words in and know I'll take out close to 20k to 30k, trying to make the WIP tighter.