The Corsair was facing down at the race start and had to rotate before moving. The scout was already facing right. I think RT has a point about that one not counting.
Devils advocate for the quiz, it did say which of these units would reach the end of "this" horse race. Not specifically which is overall faster; imo a gotcha question but still valid for quiz rules.
Artosis is right according to liquipedia btw. The scout is only equally as fast as corsair with its speed upgrade. Without its speed upgrade it is at 5 speed, and a corsair is 6.67 speed. The only way this could be wrong is if they have drastically different acceleration, but I don't think they do. Something was wrong with that test.
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd I'm pretty sure the Scout had the speed upgrade. Even after the acceleration period was over it was putting more distance between itself and the dragoon (normally dragoons at full speed are faster than scouts unless the scout has the upgrade). Also, scout has relatively slow acceleration itself, so I would be surprised if it was getting huge edges based on acceleration.
@@ArtosisTV lol u guys are right. Everything had upgrades (including the shuttle). You can see the Corsair facing the wrong way before the race starts, therfore the Scout won.
EDIT - after rewatching, yes it's clear the scout has the upgrade, and I'm pretty sure the corsairs higher speed would overcome the acceleration issue otherwise. The quiz is at minimum, faulty, and probably wrong. The corsair is much faster according to the speed stat. I believe the scout had higher acceleration which helped it win this short race, so you are indeed wrong on that one.
@@evgeniyevgeniy8352 Yeah, was suspicious the scout had the speed upgrade. Scout is really slow without the upgrade (slower than dragoon, about the same as a probe). They're the same speed as corsairs with the upgrade, but the question did specify "no upgrades".
I think with upgrades they're the same speed, but the corsair was angled downwards so yeah slower acceleration. I could be wrong about this but that's what it looked like.
@invisiblemenproduction I'm furious about Corsair question being so wrong, but still this volume was pretty good. Siege tank range questions were really interesting (but not the best order, from hardest to easiest). And of course those Arto clips were cool, cause our fellow terran is angry even when he wins.
Just mathing 'cause I'm a nerd - 1 valk rocket = 6 explosive dmg - carrier armor = 4 - 1 valk firing 8 volleys per instance at a carrier = (6-4) damage * 8 = 16 total (could vary depending on where rockets hit) - 50 valks firing in one instance = 50 * 16 = 800 explosive splash damage in one instance, could vary yup, there's simply no way for the carriers to win there
That's not correct. Without its speed upgrade the scout has 5 speed, and a corsair has 6.67 speed. The reason the scout won is the faster acceleration as AntiDoctor pointed out above me
Ok. So according to Liquipedia, how long does it take for said units to reach max speed? And at what point in time does the other begin to overtake the other?
@@caelestigladii Acceleration isn't listed, but I wouldn't expect it to make much different. I've A-moved a random mix of protoss scouts/carriers/corsairs and almost immediately the group of corsairs is out ahead, and the carriers lag behind
According to Liquipedia a corsair has a speed of 4.963, while an unupgraded scout has a speed of 3.720 (75% of the corsair) and even with its speed upgrade it has the same speed as the corsair. It shouldn't beat the scout in that race.
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jdIt doesn’t matter, scout top speed that high is clearly upgraded. You clearly never used scout without speed before, that sh|t is slow.
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Valid point, but that would just mean the "drag race" was too short and the corsair would eventually catch up and win, but with the length of the race in the actual Starcraft engine not being clearly represented in this .png race, I'll have to, with my authority as a vice-chairman of the scrublord club, render the quiz question itself still invalid.
I would say the protoss units from top to bottom where: arbiter, shuttle, scout, observer, probe, corsair, carrier, zealot, reaver, high templar, dragoon, dark templar, dark archon, archon. No way unupgraded zealot is that fast, so it was definitely rigged.
Just spitballing but I'm guessing under BW's engine, the erratic and quick movement of interceptors evades the valk's missile as it doesn't home in well, and doesn't do direct damage but splashes around the target.
Man 50 valkirias to kills 25 carriers, and in real life toss bring 2 storms and its over, Also they only shoot air protos will have ground army as well, imba for terran.
lol if I'm taking an L, you gotta too. I still can't believe scouts had that kind of giddy-up pre-upgrade! UNDER USED UNIT, I'mma find a place for it other than chat FFA.
I don't understand objections against siege tanks range. It shoots shells, so it must be able to launch it anywhere, even from one spawn to cross spawn. Needles are hard to throw and plasma balls hard to hold, that's why zergs and protoss inferior to terran.
4:40 -- last time I *ACTIVELY* played Brood War was *more than 5 (FIVE) years ago* , and yet, it was OBVIOUS to me that this goon was *CLEARLY* _WITHIN_ the tank's range... !! -_- Really, arty ?? xD .
These were piss easy. The most I liked were map ones - he should've used old KeSPA days maps like Blue Storm a lot more, 99% playerbase knows what FS looks like lol.
Corsair speed 4.963 Scout speed without upgrades 3.7 Scout speed with graviton Thrusters speed 4.963 The test was rigged not by just having the upgrade for the scout…
The one you don't want to count where you won cuz the dude left was very obviously poor winner artosis not poor loser artosis. You are toxic af win or lose.
2000 Likes and my wife tries a StarCraft Quiz!
If your wife watches your stream, I'm sure she'll do well at the quiz Arty. Good luck Wifetosis!
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Also I just looked at a chart, says scout speed is like, 6.67 with upgrade, to match the stairs. So. Yah, gonna have to say you were right about that.
I think it's more fun I'd the wife just do thr reaction quiz. I'm curious how many she would get right
ok part 3 lets go
The Corsair was facing down at the race start and had to rotate before moving. The scout was already facing right. I think RT has a point about that one not counting.
Devils advocate for the quiz, it did say which of these units would reach the end of "this" horse race. Not specifically which is overall faster; imo a gotcha question but still valid for quiz rules.
Scout and Corsair are the same speed after the upgrade, but with no upgrade, Scout is slower.
bro, thats a race, not stat check of which unit is faster.
like at real race faster horse can come second or third.
obviously it counts.
Artosis is right according to liquipedia btw. The scout is only equally as fast as corsair with its speed upgrade. Without its speed upgrade it is at 5 speed, and a corsair is 6.67 speed. The only way this could be wrong is if they have drastically different acceleration, but I don't think they do. Something was wrong with that test.
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corsair has slower acceleration, which matters a lot in a short race.
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd I'm pretty sure the Scout had the speed upgrade. Even after the acceleration period was over it was putting more distance between itself and the dragoon (normally dragoons at full speed are faster than scouts unless the scout has the upgrade).
Also, scout has relatively slow acceleration itself, so I would be surprised if it was getting huge edges based on acceleration.
Artosis was right
Corsair > unupgraded scout
@@ArtosisTV lol u guys are right. Everything had upgrades (including the shuttle). You can see the Corsair facing the wrong way before the race starts, therfore the Scout won.
Artosis scores himself like I do at the end of tests, etc. "Well, I missed three questions, but I'm pretty sure the test was wrong for two of those."
EDIT - after rewatching, yes it's clear the scout has the upgrade, and I'm pretty sure the corsairs higher speed would overcome the acceleration issue otherwise. The quiz is at minimum, faulty, and probably wrong.
The corsair is much faster according to the speed stat. I believe the scout had higher acceleration which helped it win this short race, so you are indeed wrong on that one.
I believe observer, zealot and scout had speed upgrade.
@@evgeniyevgeniy8352 It seemed to but I didn't want to spend too much time caring.
@@evgeniyevgeniy8352 Yeah, was suspicious the scout had the speed upgrade. Scout is really slow without the upgrade (slower than dragoon, about the same as a probe).
They're the same speed as corsairs with the upgrade, but the question did specify "no upgrades".
Scout cheated with upgrades, that’s why it got there first.
I think with upgrades they're the same speed, but the corsair was angled downwards so yeah slower acceleration. I could be wrong about this but that's what it looked like.
@invisiblemenproduction I'm furious about Corsair question being so wrong, but still this volume was pretty good. Siege tank range questions were really interesting (but not the best order, from hardest to easiest). And of course those Arto clips were cool, cause our fellow terran is angry even when he wins.
Just mathing 'cause I'm a nerd
- 1 valk rocket = 6 explosive dmg
- carrier armor = 4
- 1 valk firing 8 volleys per instance at a carrier = (6-4) damage * 8 = 16 total (could vary depending on where rockets hit)
- 50 valks firing in one instance = 50 * 16 = 800 explosive splash damage in one instance, could vary
yup, there's simply no way for the carriers to win there
InvisibleMen lied about the "without upgrades" part on the race. Literally the moment the race started I could tell.
No shot the Scout is faster than the Corsair without upgrades
That's not correct. Without its speed upgrade the scout has 5 speed, and a corsair has 6.67 speed. The reason the scout won is the faster acceleration as AntiDoctor pointed out above me
Actually this was wrong, the Scout is slow as heck compared to the Sair. The Scout had the speed upghrade.
@@alexfriedman2152 nope it didn't
Lets just say Artosis got 110% right ,not just 100% as he says at the end.
According to Liquipedia: Speed of a scout is 3.720. Speed of a Corsair is 4.963.
Ok. So according to Liquipedia, how long does it take for said units to reach max speed? And at what point in time does the other begin to overtake the other?
@@caelestigladii Acceleration isn't listed, but I wouldn't expect it to make much different. I've A-moved a random mix of protoss scouts/carriers/corsairs and almost immediately the group of corsairs is out ahead, and the carriers lag behind
If you aint goonin. you aint livin brother.
Still one of the (unintentionally?) recent funniest quotes from arty
According to Liquipedia a corsair has a speed of 4.963, while an unupgraded scout has a speed of 3.720 (75% of the corsair) and even with its speed upgrade it has the same speed as the corsair. It shouldn't beat the scout in that race.
From my perspective it looks like that scout has the speed upgrade already.
you have to consider acceleration
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jdIt doesn’t matter, scout top speed that high is clearly upgraded. You clearly never used scout without speed before, that sh|t is slow.
@@MarcoAshford lol clown
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Valid point, but that would just mean the "drag race" was too short and the corsair would eventually catch up and win, but with the length of the race in the actual Starcraft engine not being clearly represented in this .png race, I'll have to, with my authority as a vice-chairman of the scrublord club, render the quiz question itself still invalid.
I would say the protoss units from top to bottom where:
arbiter, shuttle, scout, observer, probe, corsair, carrier, zealot, reaver, high templar, dragoon, dark templar, dark archon, archon.
No way unupgraded zealot is that fast, so it was definitely rigged.
What would you bet on:
"Rogue doesn't win this tournament" or "Serral doesn't win this tournament"
That is my only Argument for Serral
Surprised Arty didn't know the range of Tanks after 25 years lol. They have 12 range, which is the longest range in the game.
Artosis is right about the speed thing. It's as fast as the Corsair with speed upgrade.
7:25 valks dont deal splash damage do interceptors so id not be so sure whether they can kill all of them @ArtosisTV
Carriers no upgrades ?
Cmon, thats not even realistic.
Yah, like who doesn't upgrade damage and additional interceptors at once? So it's not really a helpful hypothetical.
Anyone ever installed Starcraft from the discs and then not updated it? If you think the siege tank range is op now, you have no idea my friends.
Siege tanks NEVER received changes to their siege mode range...
I *_think_* the HIGH TEMPLARS *DID* , however...
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In SC2:WoL they did 60 damage to everything for like a couple months before it was changed to 35 vs light
@@chloesmith4065 no one cares about SC2
7:20 -- Valks *DON'T* do Splash to _interceptors_ , really ?? O_o
So... HOW COME ?? :O ... Like... *WHY ?! @_@*
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Just spitballing but I'm guessing under BW's engine, the erratic and quick movement of interceptors evades the valk's missile as it doesn't home in well, and doesn't do direct damage but splashes around the target.
Man 50 valkirias to kills 25 carriers, and in real life toss bring 2 storms and its over, Also they only shoot air protos will have ground army as well, imba for terran.
Those dark circles on Eclipse always look a little bit like burrowed units to me without 20/20 vision
ur right !!
Even I with *NEAR-* perfect vision confuse them !! :O
Youre so right about the Arty loss game the way you were talking 😂 totally how itd be only after playing and losing
I love these thanks to the guy making these quizzes
that protoss unit race is just completely wrong, Corsairs have a higher top speed AND faster acceleration than an unupgraded Scout, makes no sense.
lol if I'm taking an L, you gotta too. I still can't believe scouts had that kind of giddy-up pre-upgrade! UNDER USED UNIT, I'mma find a place for it other than chat FFA.
I wish it was this fast without upgrade.
Imagine scout being as fast as the vulture.
Would be S tier unit.
@@karpai5427 lol... please no... There's enough Protoss air units that have been giving Terran and Zerg nightmares...
@@Shield_Battery Those are nice Overlords you got there. Would be a shame if something happens to them.
I don't understand objections against siege tanks range. It shoots shells, so it must be able to launch it anywhere, even from one spawn to cross spawn. Needles are hard to throw and plasma balls hard to hold, that's why zergs and protoss inferior to terran.
Why even bother with battlecruiser turrets? Just strap a bunch of siege tanks together and do orbital bombardments from space.
i was disappointed when the geoguesser questions were displaying the map fragment for more than 1 second
Let’s try that next time lol
I thought the guy was trolling when he gave 15 seconds so I laughed, but then he did it for every photo...
Great concept much enjoyment to be had!
I don't think we should count any that Arty got wrong.
Dirty David should have said "what a mega nerd" after Arty got the first one right since the creator surely know he would ... indeed get it right
4:40 -- last time I *ACTIVELY* played Brood War was *more than 5 (FIVE) years ago* , and yet, it was OBVIOUS to me that this goon was *CLEARLY* _WITHIN_ the tank's range... !! -_-
Really, arty ?? xD
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These were piss easy. The most I liked were map ones - he should've used old KeSPA days maps like Blue Storm a lot more, 99% playerbase knows what FS looks like lol.
Good quiz... Great answers
I'm *terrible* at trivia usually, so I'd still get a 0 on this if I'd not already seen the answers here
Nice, except for the Artosis reaction ones I got them all right
We won't count this one because.
Alright, so even though i got 3 of those wrong were not going to count that because i was actually right. I give myself 100%.
Artosis is peggy hill
Bluestorm. So many good games.
amazing mirror
Corsair speed 4.963
Scout speed without upgrades 3.7
Scout speed with graviton Thrusters speed 4.963
The test was rigged not by just having the upgrade for the scout…
Your score should have been 100% with an asterisk. So you scored 100%*
There is no way unupgraded scout would win the race against corsair!
Invisible man is cheating!
these are fun!
1:04 Jeadong ❤🙌
What happened to the skits?
Why did they nerfed protoss so badly against terrans? It's beyond stupid.
Finally
I love how he needs excuses and copium for a damn quiz
HE JUST SITS THERE IN AN ARC!
yea at first I thought he was just joking but he was actually serious with his excuses
The one you don't want to count where you won cuz the dude left was very obviously poor winner artosis not poor loser artosis. You are toxic af win or lose.
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