Don't Play Hoopa *Trick Shadow Ball Build*

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  •  Год назад +179

    I think it's honestly impressive how a pokémon that was that essential to the game like half a year ago is now just gone.

    • @AZV0108
      @AZV0108 Год назад +20

      The first nail on its coffin was the nerf of the healing of the main base, the second was the insane buff Blissey got, and the last was the nerf HSH got.
      I thought with Rayquaza getting the Zapdos' trait, Hoopa would raise again, but it still stood dead surprisingly. At least it's not that useless with Trick

    • @solarium4884
      @solarium4884 Год назад +4

      @@AZV0108 cause as you said the healing in the base is huge. Basically hoopa currently is pretty much useless 8 min just to become useful once on rayquaza when many players go there already, especially in team fights

    • @AZV0108
      @AZV0108 Год назад +1

      @@solarium4884 Yeah... but I expected Hoopa to be seen a little bit more now that Rayquaza became an actual win condition. Seems the change of map was too much for it.

    • @mindkrystal1982
      @mindkrystal1982 Год назад

      @@AZV0108 I don't remember Blissey getting a buff recently

    • @AYRbROthor
      @AYRbROthor Год назад

      Thanks lord. This pokémon was a disgrace

  • @akirawu7927
    @akirawu7927 Год назад +51

    When the opponets steal Ray... It gets so frustrating. But when our team steals Ray, I get this guilty yet happy feeling. 😅

  • @rest1585
    @rest1585 Год назад +50

    As a hoopa main I disagree, hoopa trick and shadow ball can actually be pretty powerful. If you have the right build. Crit hoopa is pretty good.

    • @tarans9958
      @tarans9958 Год назад +3

      Crit hoopa shouldnt be a thing its that bad

    • @rest1585
      @rest1585 Год назад +7

      @@tarans9958 Nah man it just has a high skill cap

    • @tinyjotaro5316
      @tinyjotaro5316 Год назад

      @@rest1585 how crits are "skill" if only work on auto attacks

    • @rest1585
      @rest1585 Год назад +6

      @@tinyjotaro5316 I’m talking about hoopa as a whole. But to answer your question you still need to be able to hold your own while you slowly wither down your opponents hp.

    • @mikeross6767
      @mikeross6767 Год назад +1

      @@rest1585 what items and emblem do you run on hoopa?

  • @mindkrystal1982
    @mindkrystal1982 Год назад +19

    honestly I'd like hoopa back, with trick it's basicaly a regular support and I think it's quite good, just don't want to see it on every single team like we had before

  • @reyrico5807
    @reyrico5807 Год назад +6

    Hoopa is still an exceptional choice. Although I’d avoid trick and stay with teleporting even tho it was nerfed. Being able to shift between points is still a very good thing to have.

    • @childsupport69420
      @childsupport69420 Год назад

      The thing is the new map is mobile and the nerf to base is just making the portal part worthless while the objective aren't the priority at this point and raquaza unite is just not it when the wind currents help you get there I would rather have eldegoss than hoopa at this point

  • @humourlessjester3584
    @humourlessjester3584 Год назад +12

    I'm surprised thatHoopa isn't more relevant after the rayquaza buffs. As far as I could tell the only thing that held hoopa back was that objectives weren't as game defining as they were before. But with the stronger ray shields winning almost every game it's surprising to me that people aren't throwing all the hoopa unites at 2 mins as they did during the zapdos days.

    • @benburrell450
      @benburrell450 Год назад +4

      As a hoopa main, I typically don't auto use my unite at ray, unless I need to bring the team there after an almost wipe. I'll typically put my ult portal at the enemy home goal to make sure anyone who died during the ray fight can try to get scores in

    • @khoavu9031
      @khoavu9031 Год назад +1

      Cause if you can run that on eldegross, why bother on Hoopa. Thats why

    • @djjjjjd
      @djjjjjd Год назад

      This is what a lot of people are missing. Between it's hyperspace portals and it's unite move, it's hugely influential against Ray.

    • @djjjjjd
      @djjjjjd Год назад

      @@benburrell450 that's a very situational strat, and 9 times out of 10 you would get a lot more value out of your unite by dropping it at Ray when the other team are weakened.

  • @khyreepeacock6779
    @khyreepeacock6779 Год назад +10

    Honestly hoopa it's self was not broken it was the strategic abilities of hoopa that made it broken so. Yes let him return

  • @sleshstamp
    @sleshstamp Год назад +3

    I've been rocking this build as well! Pretty good offensive support option. It's not stupid broken or anything though.

  • @djjjjjd
    @djjjjjd Год назад +2

    I've been playing hyperspace shadow ball Hoopa the past few days and it still feels very viable. The win rate isn't great because for most of the game you are dependant on your teammates actually making use of your support, and I still see teammates dodging my portals more regularly than you would believe. However, in the games where your allies actually make use of it, it's very good. I've had plenty of games where I've basically decided the Ray fight with well timed/played portals, or just straight up clutched it by using my unite at the right time. Hoopa rightfully fell off of most peoples' radar when the new map dropped, but I feel like it's a bit slept on atm.

  • @CubicalYarn
    @CubicalYarn Год назад +20

    I do want Hoopa buffs and I think there were much worse metas than the Hoopa one though I don't want anything crazy. My idea was to make it so that Trick clears status effects upon use and some sort of a rework to the passive - Magician so that it isn't completely useless after tier 1 goals are gone, maybe let it take the aeos energy right from the pockets of enemies.

    • @aleclovesyou6481
      @aleclovesyou6481 Год назад +2

      I think it would be great if Trick gave a 10-20% attack speed buff. Allowing Magician to steal a Wild Pokemon from the enemy would be an interesting rework.

    • @CubicalYarn
      @CubicalYarn Год назад +1

      Those are also great ideas but with the stealing enemy pokemon I think it should ignore orange and purple buffs for obvious reason. I just hope they do something cuz Hoopa has been bottom tier for like 3 patches now and it better not be meaningless number changes.

    • @Dadbot
      @Dadbot Год назад +3

      I think just a bit more Sp attack is all it needs. Like 5-10%

    • @usahknights
      @usahknights Год назад +1

      Maybe make it so that Magician, if all berries are gone, is instead an AoE heal equivalent to ×1.5 Blissey Softboiled

    • @pallygoat7150
      @pallygoat7150 Год назад +2

      I think a good way to solve all the issues mentioned here is just make magician also give -1Sec on cooldowns when Hoopa gets berries or aeos energy but it has a 2 or 3 sec cooldown. Idk what do yall think.

  • @atypicaloddity
    @atypicaloddity Год назад +35

    I think that Bulbasaur was trying to split the early farm with you so he'd have an easier time scoring for stacks

    • @sleshstamp
      @sleshstamp Год назад +2

      I HATE when I'm playing support and my laners do that. Just take all the farm. You are the carry.

    • @stxllxn
      @stxllxn Год назад +5

      @@sleshstamp no… if they are stacking, having too many points will be a problem. if you have 8 points and you’re going up against a lane that prevents stackers, you’re screwed. if you really want to help “the carry” you should be helping them prep for late game

    • @sleshstamp
      @sleshstamp Год назад

      @@stxllxn and you do that by them taking farm.

    • @stxllxn
      @stxllxn Год назад +3

      @@sleshstamp your carry getting as many stacks as possible before the 8:50 birds is more important than handing over all the farm, making it unable for them to stack because they have too many points

    • @sleshstamp
      @sleshstamp Год назад +2

      @@stxllxn I don't care about stacks I care about experience. stack later.

  • @YouTwatcher27
    @YouTwatcher27 Год назад +3

    Answer of the day: Honestly I would like to see him return. His tactical impact elevated Unite to a much more interesting game imo. I actually play him once in a while but suck with him, so I leave him to the pros like indie or you ;-)

  • @elstrangeenemy887
    @elstrangeenemy887 Год назад +11

    Also something no one has noticed, right now Trick Hoopa is bugged when it comes to selecting your moves, if you have Trick effects up it prevents you from selecting the upgrades from moves, INCLUDING HOOPA'S UNITE

    • @echo9352
      @echo9352 Год назад +5

      Is not a bug, is a feature to prevent another bugs to happen

    • @iznathan
      @iznathan Год назад +3

      nope thats been present for a while

    • @rikkyun04
      @rikkyun04 Год назад +1

      No it's not bugged... You can't get trick shield over your hoopa unbound unite cuz it's insane monster already... That's why it prevents you

  • @thebrokenking1372
    @thebrokenking1372 Год назад +1

    As a hoopa main who plays both builds I'd say they need just some minor buffs/reworks more so towards HyperSpace/Phantom force hoopa maybe give pokemon who exit from any of hoopa's portals a dmg boost for 5-10 seconds scaling off of 25% of hoopa's spAtk. As for trick hoopa im not sure what you could do to make it stronger since it's very dominating when you lane with a strong spAttker

  • @5h1k0
    @5h1k0 Год назад +1

    I started playing hoopa when sableye came out and I learned that trick and phantom force can actually bring your ally back to where you started phantom force if sableye uses its unite move to bring you back to spawn

  • @danielclark6939
    @danielclark6939 Год назад +4

    Ok Mr. Spragels, I will not play Hoopa

  • @ellyjockey6164
    @ellyjockey6164 Год назад +3

    I think Hoopa is a pretty cool character these days, in a retro kind of way. Though as far as coming back to the meta? Ehhh. It's okay right now so I wouldn't change it too much, but sometimes I want a little bit more DPS on Hoopa to help its offense. But that's just me.
    Hoopa tip: Hitting an opponent with Shadow Ball right before a boosted basic attack can get you a quick stun. That's a combo I like doing.

    • @isiight.
      @isiight. Год назад +1

      Rapid fire scarf muscle band focus band 7 red all sp attack boosting 2 green 4 white with eject button. Multiple 100k damage games in masters.

    • @ellyjockey6164
      @ellyjockey6164 Год назад

      @@isiight. That sounds like a good build.

    • @isiight.
      @isiight. Год назад

      @@ellyjockey6164 try it out and let me know what you think mate. I’m not great at this game so if i can make it work anyone can.

  • @JuneauGTW
    @JuneauGTW Год назад +1

    QOTD: I would like Hoopa to be a viable support Pokémon, but I do not want Hoopa Meta back. Getting a terrible Hoopa was the worst in Solo Que.

  • @marty2906
    @marty2906 Год назад +5

    I'm a hoopa main and honestly I think it's good with trick and shadow ball, I use a similar build but I use BB at the place of exp. share

    • @ft6840
      @ft6840 Год назад

      I do exactly the same, and I have a really positive win rate with that mon. The fact is that too many player want to do damages, any defender or support is a massive adantage in solo q.

    • @mindkrystal1982
      @mindkrystal1982 Год назад

      @@ft6840 supporters really depends on the team comp, Blissey with 4 attackers is really not that useful, all your healing goes away with one auto attack from an enemy Cinder or Garchomp

  • @Cerbleur07
    @Cerbleur07 Год назад +1

    Besides the video build there's another recommendation for Hoopa?
    I've always tried to play Hoopa since launch but it always feels ankward to manage, like I simply don't understand it. And I usually end winning like I've been carried as I die a lot and I feel I'm just a punching bag. It's weird, I dunno. Like 75% win rate from like 22 matches with Hoopa

  • @kindredzpirit6046
    @kindredzpirit6046 Год назад +7

    I wanna see Hoopa back, but not on its former broken form lol. Just as a playable mon.

    • @CleanVGC
      @CleanVGC Год назад +2

      Same. Like still good but not busted

    • @ze-prestooo
      @ze-prestooo Год назад +4

      The only thing they needed to nerf was his Unite Move. They gutted the Pokemon. He's quite useless aside from his Unite Move.

    • @lilj6849
      @lilj6849 Год назад +2

      @@ze-prestooo even its unite doesn't hit hard enough now

    • @mysteriousdora6914
      @mysteriousdora6914 Год назад +1

      @@lilj6849 pretty vulnerable too tbh

  • @alectos
    @alectos Год назад +3

    Man exp share is a very fickle item to see used by people, either they understand or not about how the item works, sometimes i just see pikachu or char with exp share AND steal lane farm even though i'm underleveled

  • @ivanwang4493
    @ivanwang4493 Год назад +2

    I still think hoopa is still pretty good. I'd put him in the low A tier. Hoopa is an S tier if you are talking about early laning.

  • @ChodyRay
    @ChodyRay Год назад +1

    I don't mind seeing hoopa back in the meta, just not in the form of hyperspace hole. I wouldn't mind trick/shadow ball hoopa getting slight buffs

  • @williamqian4470
    @williamqian4470 Год назад +1

    i havent touched pokemon unite since they introduced the emblem system. hoopa was part of the meta and was also the mon that i mained. i come back and now its dead? wow..

  • @rjtarroza29
    @rjtarroza29 Год назад +1

    I keep my no. of matches tie. As a supporter main, I keep it 60. Still making my clefable matches high while saving to buy sableye. But hoopa have my highest win rate at the moment of all the supporters.

  • @kidsinthebasement270
    @kidsinthebasement270 Год назад +1

    did really the content creators forgot about the sword living in the game. it's Benn untouched since this season began

  • @crimsontanooki7212
    @crimsontanooki7212 Год назад +2

    even if people like the new hoopa, I still miss being a get away driver for my team

  • @Yorkshire42069
    @Yorkshire42069 Год назад +1

    Hoopa needs a ton of buffs, it’s so bad right now

  • @AdL1bit
    @AdL1bit Год назад

    Coming from a hoopa main to the person who asked why not hyperspace hole, probably also because in team fights teammates most of the time won't use them or even warp back to the fight with them or just go "OOOOOOOH!!!! GLOWY RING!!! COOOL!!"
    Then ignore it and never use them and when you are the only one benefitting from the hole you were basically better off picking Slowbro because you still get the healing but you aren't hunted down across the whole map pinging yourself for help while your team is off farming jungle together for some reason.
    Yes the life of a hoopa main is hard but also he is too adorable not to love ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ

  • @dalilkwickone14
    @dalilkwickone14 Год назад

    Waiting on Zinder’s new hyper basic attack hooopa vid after this 🤣🤣🤣. Looks super fun. I enjoyed playing hoppa but I don’t seem impactful with him on this map for some reason. The logic is still there though.

  • @skyturret88
    @skyturret88 Год назад +4

    If the meta is ever Hoopa/Blissey on every team, I might quit for a bit until that changes.

    • @justin-dr6fl
      @justin-dr6fl Год назад

      Do you mean if both are the meta or also if it's just one of them also what's wrong with either of them? Could you pls explain? :)

    • @mindkrystal1982
      @mindkrystal1982 Год назад

      @@justin-dr6fl before Blissey's nerf and the map change that destroyed hoopa, every team had them both, Hoopa could mobilize the entire team in a blink and Blissey's healing was really annoying, like surviving a 2v5 level of annoying, it's still good now but before it was nasty

  • @thedoc1061
    @thedoc1061 Год назад

    Hoops was the first Pokémon I learned to play and I would be fine with Hoopa meta

  • @RageFuu
    @RageFuu Год назад

    I remember this live, its the stream you had us watch the eldegod video premiere lol

  • @berserk2638
    @berserk2638 Год назад +2

    Can someone please answer, does Trick and Rapid fire scarf, technically affect the basic attack that your ally launches?

  • @spirit1288
    @spirit1288 Год назад +2

    "don't play hoopa"
    Me, who'll never afford him anyway:interesting

  • @roughsketcher8722
    @roughsketcher8722 Год назад +1

    I don’t want Hoopa meta back, I just want to be able to play him without a guaranteed loss.

  • @TheCriiss180
    @TheCriiss180 Год назад

    Now that i see this,the new item that decrease sp def does it for both you and teamates and shadow ball already does it so you can stack both debuffs with hoopa for your team?

  • @iwishiknewwhatimdoinghere9050
    @iwishiknewwhatimdoinghere9050 Год назад +2

    Hoopa is so good atm!

  • @randinho8872
    @randinho8872 Год назад

    It was Absol, A9 was up at top goal scoring whilst everyone else was around Ray. A9 was trying to tell people to score for some reason LOL

    • @AfeeftoysYT18
      @AfeeftoysYT18 Год назад +1

      Do you know who was that Absol

    • @AfeeftoysYT18
      @AfeeftoysYT18 Год назад +1

      It’s me if you don’t believe me check out my absol video in my channel

  • @AYRbROthor
    @AYRbROthor Год назад

    I never wanna see this pokémon on meta again. I didn't forget his reign of terror. How could I?

    • @yatoradius771
      @yatoradius771 Год назад

      Im a hoopa main

    • @AYRbROthor
      @AYRbROthor Год назад

      @@yatoradius771 Now that he is not that abomination anymore I'm playing Hoopa too, he is actually funny and viable. But I definitely never wanna see him on Meta again

  • @SpartanScionYT
    @SpartanScionYT Год назад

    Mid match answer - I think hoopla is already meta. Team that would make hoppa shine - hoop,bliss,decidu, Gengar, mamo

  • @ultix9882
    @ultix9882 Год назад

    I personally hate the idea of xp share hoopa you can get way better value with any other item cuz hoopa is more useful when he gets his lvl 9 early before the important objectives and focusing on attack speed/cooldown or sp atk with trick hoopa is way better

  • @NoName-cn3cp
    @NoName-cn3cp Год назад +1

    I actually do pretty well with Trick/Shadow Hoopa as long as I have a good carry lol

  • @Starsea880
    @Starsea880 Год назад +1

    I wana see the Greedent meta again

  • @Ind_u.
    @Ind_u. Год назад

    Hey sir... I think you should vc more.. why dont you vc and tell your allies?

  • @MiloThatch420
    @MiloThatch420 Год назад +1

    Afeef got his game he wanted so badly, and got a video about it 👌

    • @AfeeftoysYT18
      @AfeeftoysYT18 Год назад +1

      I also Uploaded the video in my channel

  • @fatherfly2040
    @fatherfly2040 Год назад

    Jake having way too much faith in assault vest Venu 😂

  • @manuelsaldana86
    @manuelsaldana86 Год назад

    Hey! I was the one that recommended this :)))

  • @POPTARTCAT16
    @POPTARTCAT16 Год назад

    How you not going to mention the Venu penta??

  • @blackhavoc0073
    @blackhavoc0073 Год назад

    heeyy not fair i was waiting to see how much damage that built did

  • @Ecl1pse_15
    @Ecl1pse_15 Год назад +2

    *cries in hoopa main*

  • @brentescobar7523
    @brentescobar7523 Год назад

    I think hoopa was really good in the Mets but she’s still relevant in this time so she doesn’t need any buffs she’s all good. So for now till someone gets a hard counter for hoopa. No.

  • @jamestoth2594
    @jamestoth2594 Год назад

    I was like wtf happened to hoopa I had to do some research. As a hoopa main I have to find another main now makes me sad

  • @AfeeftoysYT18
    @AfeeftoysYT18 Год назад +1

    3:56 I DID IT Stealed Regice

  • @Flareonss
    @Flareonss Год назад +2

    This video title hurts me in many ways jake I will not allow this to slide

    • @Starsea880
      @Starsea880 Год назад

      Neither,I'll still play hoopa

    • @Flareonss
      @Flareonss Год назад +1

      Us hoops players will take over the world

  • @huskystar77
    @huskystar77 Год назад +1

    Mom look! I’m on TV!

  • @hobocat_
    @hobocat_ Год назад

    Well you are right I won't play that set I'm more of Getting my Unite move every minute and 20 seconds

  • @Keegan006
    @Keegan006 Год назад +1

    The nerf was unjustified they gutted gutted the mon
    Undo the nerf
    #justice4zard

  • @tonicconverse
    @tonicconverse Год назад

    Been having a lot of good games with slick spoon score Glass and shell bell this build but why don't people take my stolen berries? Sadness lol

  • @lincolneyar8269
    @lincolneyar8269 Год назад

    It's so rewarding as Supporter helping less than ideal teammates and still winning. Lol

  • @chetanrover598
    @chetanrover598 Год назад

    I really wanted to answer for Jake's question, but the one time I decide to do it he gives the answer! xD

  • @actionplay1018
    @actionplay1018 Год назад +1

    Absol did that not ninetales

  • @pallygoat7150
    @pallygoat7150 Год назад +1

    Hoopa's Passive should -1 Sec on cooldowns when it picks up an item and add a 5%SpAtt/Att buff for 3 Sec.

  • @gauntiful
    @gauntiful Год назад +1

    play the worse win rate Pokémon with the worst emblem build and the worst held items with the worst abilities

  • @vengefultiger7797
    @vengefultiger7797 Год назад +3

    Hoopa is still not viable in my opinion

    • @rest1585
      @rest1585 Год назад

      H.H. With shadow ball is the reason

    • @yatoradius771
      @yatoradius771 Год назад

      I am a hoopa main

  • @p.chidhanandbhairavp.chidh1030
    @p.chidhanandbhairavp.chidh1030 Год назад +1

    No I don't want to see Hoopa again in the game

  • @crayzaylol
    @crayzaylol Год назад

    Hoopa main here solos master ranked 65% win rate yada yada, phantom hole is still superior in my opinion.

    • @Flareonss
      @Flareonss Год назад +1

      Phantom hyper is the most goated build ever

  • @dollysan25
    @dollysan25 Год назад

    Hoopa is only helpful because he can teleport players to base..or to top to bottom lane..other wise ..i am not a hoopa fan...

  • @ft6840
    @ft6840 Год назад

    Your emblem build makes hoopa bad, play the classical black and green, it so much better with this pokemon.

  • @angelsterling2068
    @angelsterling2068 Год назад

    Hello 🤠

  • @ace708
    @ace708 Год назад

    Use magician

  • @BayBerry1337
    @BayBerry1337 Год назад

    Hoopa? More like poopa amirite? 😂

  • @96iqpiyush17
    @96iqpiyush17 Год назад

    3rd Sir

  • @halaffapokemagician199
    @halaffapokemagician199 Год назад

    no

  • @josiahdavis8630
    @josiahdavis8630 Год назад

    no. lol

  • @Thomas-ni2ct
    @Thomas-ni2ct Год назад +2

    Pls don’t play hoopa like that it’s a support , not a damage dealer so pls pick buddy and x-speed your goal is to protect ally and if u don’t like playing like that don’t play hoopa. Also don’t chose this skin he’s ugly , only hoopa’s main have party style hoopa

    • @klausvnt7380
      @klausvnt7380 Год назад +3

      tf you on

    • @zearosss759
      @zearosss759 Год назад

      So, what about Eldegod , Flaillax? Both are really strong , it don’t matter if it’s support , defender or whatever play how you like it , makes it 100x more fun.

    • @yatoradius771
      @yatoradius771 Год назад

      I play hoopa like i want

    • @david_8916
      @david_8916 Год назад

      L

    • @yatoradius771
      @yatoradius771 Год назад

      @@david_8916 respectful L

  • @JuneauGTW
    @JuneauGTW Год назад