Thom Hartmann: History Of American Oligarchy And How It ENDS

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @hakdov6496
    @hakdov6496 4 года назад +244

    he sounded smart until he started saying that he thought Pelosi was trying to do something about money in politics...

    • @Trollificusv2
      @Trollificusv2 4 года назад +42

      Dem shill. He lost all credibility with that bullshit.

    • @randy1077
      @randy1077 4 года назад +13

      Yup. Lost all credibility when he tried to make HR1 sound good.

    • @infiniteinfiniteinfi
      @infiniteinfiniteinfi 4 года назад +15

      To believe that Trump is "actually good" (QAnon) or that Obama/Pelosi is "actually good" (BlueAnon) is a deep propaganda line of US capitalist propaganda.

    • @Leo-nine
      @Leo-nine 4 года назад +36

      C'mon now, Pelosi IS trying to do something about money in politics...
      She is trying to funnel it all in her direction!

    • @needparalegal
      @needparalegal 4 года назад +10

      He was delusional long before he said that. He was claiming the Southerners were the Oligarchs in the Civil War, the North was financially destroying the South long before the Civil War. Their history of wage slavery was much more efficient than the South's overt slave system.

  • @gogogaga7441
    @gogogaga7441 4 года назад +271

    I agreed with everything until he said “Republican Oligarchs.” There are just oligarchs here; Democrat and Republican, make no mistake.

    • @jacobunderwood4957
      @jacobunderwood4957 4 года назад +10

      If there's a twinkling of light in politics, it's definitely on the Democratic side. It's nigh-on undetectable no matter where.

    • @MandeepKaur-pk5tq
      @MandeepKaur-pk5tq 4 года назад +15

      Yea. Seeing party Dem party thralls pretending their team is faultless makes me more certain everyday that we’ll never be able to avoid a war in toppling the current oligarchs. Some of the last hope people have is that their team will pull through and make everything better. It’s a sad fantasy that keeps them going.

    • @paulrevere47
      @paulrevere47 4 года назад +7

      @Establishment Shill-Troll Spot on. Hartmann IS a Hack for Dim Dummies and overly emotional flailing snowflakes. Politics is policy for the nation and definitely NOT celebrity and party cult worship. The damned inauguration stage photo looked like THE MASKED MARAUDERS CULT takes over America.

    • @nealtauss1715
      @nealtauss1715 4 года назад +1

      @Establishment Shill-Troll ... also..."turns out.... the American People don't want much of anything at all"....

    • @VS-rg4by
      @VS-rg4by 4 года назад +6

      Democrats are good cop. They always put on the optics of helping but never win or get anything done. If your big victory is a hand clap or ripping paper...

  • @aspenfallen
    @aspenfallen 4 года назад +54

    EARLY stage oligarchy?! When the will of the people is currently not being entertained in the slightest, how are we not already in a full-blown oligarchy?

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 4 года назад +4

      Don’t kid yourself. We are living in a dictatorship.

    • @parsonj39
      @parsonj39 4 года назад +2

      Hartmann's point is that there's still a chance to fight our way back to democracy.

    • @bobpurcell7175
      @bobpurcell7175 4 года назад +1

      I was hoping it was the High Renaissance of Oligarchy...

    • @marshallsweatherhiking1820
      @marshallsweatherhiking1820 4 года назад +5

      Feels like they’re at the stage where their only defense is to completely drown people in bullshit and conspiracy theories.

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles 4 года назад +2

      because losers, liars and propaganda pushers all want the same thing. to be apart of the big club.

  • @NuanceBro
    @NuanceBro 4 года назад +95

    Thom Hartmann is who I imagine David Pakman’s dad would be

    • @darensweeney5925
      @darensweeney5925 4 года назад +5

      Pakman is Sam Seder but without the charm. lol

    • @aob4214
      @aob4214 4 года назад +3

      Yes and Sam cedar is Packman‘s older brother

    • @wtice4632
      @wtice4632 4 года назад +10

      @@darensweeney5925 Sam seder is charming? To who?

    • @christopherchilton-smith6482
      @christopherchilton-smith6482 4 года назад +1

      LOL ikr! Watch Pakman interview him, the optics are hilarious.

    • @themeanie.
      @themeanie. 4 года назад

      He might have played pacman.

  • @paulsacramento5995
    @paulsacramento5995 4 года назад +96

    Seems more like a "MY Oligarchy instead of YOUR Oligarchy"...

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles 4 года назад +1

      NO, it's OUR Oligarchy you dissident.
      /s.

  • @gloriastanleygarcia4681
    @gloriastanleygarcia4681 4 года назад +14

    Thank you for having Thom Hartmann an intelectual who gives an excellent analysis of the current oligarchy who hold all the political and economic power.

  • @infiniteinfiniteinfi
    @infiniteinfiniteinfi 4 года назад +6

    Believing that politicians will save the people is as stupid as believing the oligarchs will, only the people, united, organized and informed can end the nightmare and make the dreams of every human heart into reality.

  • @philfortner1805
    @philfortner1805 4 года назад +5

    Politicians may TALK about getting money out of politics but because 90% of both parties profit from that system it won't ever be made illegal.

  • @kazilziya830
    @kazilziya830 4 года назад +18

    Thom explains it perfectly. Our country is in deep trouble and people better wake up.

    • @lessimcdowell9897
      @lessimcdowell9897 Год назад

      He called it a young oligarchy, they(88 corps) have been cooperating together and breaking into political offices to learn dirt on politicians that wouldn’t accept their bribes since 1971, why does thom think pelosi will fix this with legislation lol we need to all organize our communities into worker cooperatives like mondragon but once that becomes popular they will probably just mobilize an ethnic cleansing like they did in Yugoslavia after the ussr fell

    • @Lightmane
      @Lightmane Год назад

      They never have, and they never will

    • @driedenfichter2466
      @driedenfichter2466 29 дней назад

      Don’t worry. It will get worse.

  • @darensweeney5925
    @darensweeney5925 4 года назад +81

    I have mixed feelings about Hartmann. Yes, he seems like a progressive, but he's also been a champion of Russiagate and Blue No Matter Who.

    • @progKansas
      @progKansas 4 года назад +3

      But he is not a neoliberal. See if you can talk to him on air.

    • @patrooney88
      @patrooney88 4 года назад +14

      @@progKansas hes defintely a neoliberal. he may jhust be a more honest one. unless he just hates bernie sanders, because everything he said in the past 5 years was against him

    • @theuglykwan
      @theuglykwan 4 года назад +8

      Support him where the issues align, don't support him. Problem solved. That way you are not locked in defending crap you disagree with.

    • @eusebiou-say-bee-oh326
      @eusebiou-say-bee-oh326 4 года назад +5

      It's why "belief" is so dangerous, making sense of one thing doesn't mean we have to approve of everything. Everyone of us has and always have great ideas or thoughts and feelings that makes sense but not every word is gold - so we shouldn't accept their truth since we are not them, the same as you are not me, and that your husband, wife or partner are not you but we all sometimes agree on some things but not everything. This is because we think because we are, we have our own individual consciousness, figuring things out, living life the best way we can from the knowledge we gain and the learning process from our own individual experiences.
      However we seem to lose the ability to discern other's thoughts and feelings where we may agree with them on some things but not everything. How should we define harmony with each other if we cannot find common ground with our neighbors, friends or family? How can we make our country great, if we use "belief" in our thinking processes instead of "figuring things out" instead by thinking the way we want instead of others spoon feeding us information which at times does seem wrong, since usually those who coerce a particular view usually is made because it has an agenda to push behind it. It's probably why we have an oligarchy now instead of a true democracy since we are so used to being spoon-fed information that it's hard for us individually to escape "belief" and to instead "discern" truth from lies, honesty from deception. So in order to understand harmony where we can all live together, rich with the poor, the white along with the black and brown and yellow and red, the old and the young, we must be able to develop understanding and have the capability and ability to discern, to know and not believe, where we can all live together. It's like listening to classical music, the sound one hears in these performance can only be harmonic if each of the musical instruments can work together. Those in power must understand that we need each other in order to keep our nation whole and in good form, but it does not come about if the American folk lies asleep and keeps "believing" lies which may in the end, may spell the doom for us all since the law of cause and effect is immutable where in some time in the future that swing of the pendulum will also hit us with terrible force. We see this already in climate change and in the terrible havoc we are facing with the corona virus pandemic. So we must wake up from belief, this way we are not lured into false promises where a lot of folks as well as the individual gets taken advantage of. And when we actually can think individually without coercion or belief, we can live a brighter tomorrow since by this time we can respect each other no matter our station in life, our color, world views, age, wealth or creed.

    • @Logomachus
      @Logomachus 4 года назад +1

      @@first9299 Maybe to you it's necessary, but to me that's the mentality that prevents anything from actually changing in the first place.

  • @markbrownner6565
    @markbrownner6565 4 года назад +107

    let's not kid ourselves without the complicity of the top 9% the top 1% could not maintain any power over the bottom 90% .. in fact that 9% owns 60% of the wealth....

    • @josephclements2145
      @josephclements2145 4 года назад +8

      Yeah, cause the lower class people aren't funding amazon, google, Facebook, and twitter with their undying servitude.

    • @ttystikkrocks1042
      @ttystikkrocks1042 4 года назад +1

      @skywave dxer yeah? So which one are you?

    • @markbrownner6565
      @markbrownner6565 4 года назад

      @skywave dxer ah yes the lumpers and the splitters... but why quibble it sucks

    • @dansheffield4021
      @dansheffield4021 4 года назад

      @skywave dxer does Thomas Hartman fit into one of these?

    • @SandyEaster
      @SandyEaster 4 года назад +4

      Thom Hartmann used to push these ideas, including an amendment, he had Bernie Sanders on his show once a week for an hour talking to callers.
      Yet he was unwilling to call out the oligarchy of the Democratic Party and put support behind Bernie in 2015 -2016.

  • @thefutureisplaid3346
    @thefutureisplaid3346 4 года назад +86

    The problem is the politicians who we are depending on the help the people restore democracy are owned by said billionaires.... so...

    • @robtamanobay9595
      @robtamanobay9595 4 года назад +6

      We need to execute those politicians

    • @veermistartmkwinstagramvee7067
      @veermistartmkwinstagramvee7067 4 года назад +4

      Start with Democracy Dollars... wash out lobbying cash by a factor of 4 to 1. They will be forced to listen to the people then, because we’ll just cut their funding if they don’t 😀

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 4 года назад +3

      @@robtamanobay9595 The anti-gun movement helps the oligarchy by making that harder.

    • @xaqbennett
      @xaqbennett 4 года назад +1

      We need to replace all of them. At once.

    • @robtamanobay9595
      @robtamanobay9595 4 года назад +1

      @@Attmay all we need to do is kill a couple prominent ones and they'll back off. Or maybe soft target, like a relative

  • @livondiramerian6999
    @livondiramerian6999 5 месяцев назад +5

    Greed is the basis of oligarchy, but greed is an illness that will destroy the greedy eventually, we better educate the people to the risks of oligarchy.

    • @markm3477
      @markm3477 14 дней назад

      Unfortunately not true because the greedy super rich can move to wherever is safest (in the case of climate change) AND they can create 'managed wars of depopulation' for their own benefit.

  • @daniduke09
    @daniduke09 4 года назад +35

    Oligarchs came back in after we went off the gold standard. Central banks took over.

    • @jakeb6703
      @jakeb6703 4 года назад +3

      I agree that large banks and other large donors have large influence, however the gold standard doesn't allow for effective market adjustments during recessions. Hopefully we can find a way to get money out of politics while having a stable economy. Have a good day :)

    • @daniduke09
      @daniduke09 4 года назад

      @Shinshocks thanks for the history lesson

  • @renaldo52
    @renaldo52 4 года назад +14

    I used to listen to Thom Hartmann's radio show every day. I never missed the "Brunch with Bernie" segment every Friday at noon. I was absolutely amazed and appalled in 2016 when Thom refused to go all in for Bernie in his presidential campaign. Instead he proceeded to sound like a paid operative for Hillary Clinton. This shilling for Hillary was hypocrisy to me at the highest level. I haven't listened since. (I actually had to mute this interview while writing this...sorry Krystal and Saagar.) He used to have sound clips from FDR on his show, but when he had a chance to support an FDR-like candidate, he chose to sit on his microphone. I believe voices like his, along with Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Bill Maher and others, could have made a difference in that campaign, and helped to encourage the Democratic party to nominate the person who would have beaten a vapid, reality show host. These people, who I thought to be true progressives, turned out to be establishment Democrats after all. Shame on me for being so duped; shame on them for the hypocrisy.

    • @llanos8320
      @llanos8320 4 года назад

      Jesus christ what 100% pure radio hosts do like?

    • @screenarts
      @screenarts 4 года назад +4

      Right on, Thom turned his back in Sanders in 16.

    • @Logomachus
      @Logomachus 4 года назад

      Same experience here. I listened to his radio show constantly back in the 2014-2016 times, and he is absolutely a smart guy, but he unfortunately fell into the same trap of RussiaGating and becoming just another democratic party tool that ruined other progressive shows like Democracy Now. A real shame, but in the long run these realignments are very revealing and useful I think.

    • @SandyEaster
      @SandyEaster 4 года назад

      I don"t blame you, the establishment media is at fault for a lot of this.

    • @DavidFredrick-lm6pq
      @DavidFredrick-lm6pq 9 месяцев назад

      You guys are out of touch with reality. Everything he said is true.
      Republican s has always been for the rich corporate American. From late 1890s to 1929,causing the depression. Collapse.,democratic administration s has always handled economics an civil society better in this country.
      So, Ronald Regan is definitely the cause of alot of this coming back like he said.
      Also, remember Republican s never wanted Medicare., social security, department of education, department of house for low income, the poor. You no the safety net as we called it
      The all Voted against IT. An tried to over turn it again but, failed.
      Why do you think all of Republican congress wants to get rid of SSI. MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY. WELFARE.

  • @Transformersfan1699
    @Transformersfan1699 4 года назад +3

    This was a segment the American people needed

  • @captsean660
    @captsean660 4 года назад +4

    An oligarch is a single individual that controls an entire sector of the economy. John D. Rockefeller was very close to being an oligarch by controlling 90% of the oil; 100% is an oligarch. In Russia during the time of the Soviet Union and presently there are oligarchs that control entire sectors of the economy.
    In the US we have an oligopoly (monopoly of the few) with several corporations controlling entire sectors of the economy. Corporatism started in the 1990s with the government allowing corporations to acquisition (buy) entire sectors of the economy. The government controls the regulations that allow it and disallows competition against it, and the oligops pay the government back by basically paying for everything.
    Reverse the economic policies of the 1990s and reverse the economic situation we're in. And then the new headache will be the number of choices we have in both higher paying jobs and consumer goods.

  • @lstcloud
    @lstcloud 4 года назад +53

    Haven't even watched this yet, but seeing as how it's Thom Hartmann, I'm betting that a large part of his plan is: "Continue electing Democrats until the heat death of the universe."

    • @liquidlogic7426
      @liquidlogic7426 4 года назад

      🔥

    • @violent_bebop9687
      @violent_bebop9687 4 года назад +1

      LOL, right you are.

    • @thalesnemo2841
      @thalesnemo2841 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣 Tom is a devout old school dem! That type of dem has turned into the Vichy DNC with the coronation of and installation of Vegetable Joe into the head of a decaying empire!
      No worries the American Taliban will capture power in 2022 sparking the 2nd US civil war ! If there is still an intact nation in 2024 then they will also capture the White House too!
      Why ?
      The Vichy DNC has done absolutely nothing to aid a desperate populace during a pandemic and a depression! NO M4A NO MONTHLY UBI NO STUDENT DEBT JUBILEE NO FEDERAL JOBS GUARANTEE!
      Way passed time to put on a Yellow Vest and grind the process of governance and the economy to halt! Politics is a game of fear ! We the people are many the Uber rich are few !

    • @spiderpickle3255
      @spiderpickle3255 3 года назад

      Well, yeah?
      I'm pretty sure Thom identifies as a radical centrist, and considering his world travels and experiences I would guess he's going off of a worldwide perspective. Overton window and all that. He only comes across as left because the US is too far right.

    • @Lindawhit
      @Lindawhit Год назад +1

      @@violent_bebop9687 creep was Nixon. Thanks a lot Republicans

  • @ethanengland6186
    @ethanengland6186 4 года назад +19

    Watch Sagaar's face when Thom Hartman says his name at the beginning LOL

    • @koukkoufos2000
      @koukkoufos2000 4 года назад +3

      Yeah LMAO I like Tom Hartmann, he’s a cool progressive old man but he doesn’t know how to pronounce brown names 😂

  • @kareneDallas
    @kareneDallas 4 года назад +5

    Thank God (I mean that literally) for people like Thom Hartmann who can explain what’s going on in our government AND how we can fix it. Unless we understand the movements that transform our government we can’t see what’s happening. Even better is to be able to see things in a historical context.

  • @weaksause6878
    @weaksause6878 4 года назад +35

    He lists countries who are turning into a police state, but fails to mention America.

    • @jacobunderwood4957
      @jacobunderwood4957 4 года назад +5

      He called America an 'early stage oligarchy' and said 'oligarchy ends in a facist police state or it collapses back into democracy', so yeah, he at least said that America is on its way to being a police state.

    • @stutzbearcat5624
      @stutzbearcat5624 4 года назад

      Because he is cia left gater.
      This guy wrote a COMPLETE BULLSHIT COVER BOOK about the Kennedy assassination and DID NOT EVEN KNOW Kennedy started the US gov printing money; took it away from the "Fed".
      (That was NOT the only reason Kennedy was put on the hit list btw)

    • @parsonj39
      @parsonj39 4 года назад

      @@stutzbearcat5624 Not sure what you mean about Kennedy starting the government printing money--but if he did, he sure wasn't the first: Lincoln financed the Civil War with greenbacks, which weren't backed by anything but the full faith and credit of the government. There's nothing wrong with the government printing money: the Constitution gives that power to Congress.

    • @stutzbearcat5624
      @stutzbearcat5624 4 года назад

      @@parsonj39
      No you have no idea what I mean.
      Paper money is printed thru the Federal Reserve Bank.
      They took it over sometime around 1913-1914 - it is basically how they can control the economy.
      Kennedy realized it gave the "banking cartel" to much power and took it back. This of course they were less than pleased by.
      I have read close to 100 books on the Kennedy assassination - many 2-3-4 times. The best book on it ive encountered is James Douglass 'JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE'.

  • @crocholiday
    @crocholiday 4 года назад +5

    No change will come until folks like Hartman realize both sides are propping up the oligarchs. I think it's pretty naive for him to think the democrats are going to be the ones to save us, especially when Wall St overwhelmingly supported D candidates over R ones in the recent election cycle. He should settle in for a nice, warm cup of disappointment...

  • @carst007
    @carst007 4 года назад +13

    Does this guy think only republicans are oligarchs?? How does he think this???

    • @dragonfly1929
      @dragonfly1929 4 года назад +3

      NO,ALL OF THEM..ARE.

    • @carst007
      @carst007 4 года назад

      @@dragonfly1929 i agree but u couldn't tell from listening to this guy

    • @lemurianchick
      @lemurianchick 4 года назад +2

      @@carst007 Do you honestly believe he's that stupid. No, he's shilling.

    • @carst007
      @carst007 4 года назад +1

      @@lemurianchick agree. Totally shilling

    • @GenerationX1984
      @GenerationX1984 Год назад

      Republicans are the ones who gutted all the labor laws for the benefit of oligarchs.

  • @shaunkelly3149
    @shaunkelly3149 4 года назад +34

    Wow! A Smedley Butler reference! I wasn’t expecting Thom Hartman to say that.

    • @wyganter
      @wyganter 4 года назад +1

      @Volf Khat 1:23

  • @shadow7988
    @shadow7988 4 года назад +18

    Is this guy implying that Dems aren't oligarchs too? That's a complete joke.

  • @chrisccc22
    @chrisccc22 4 года назад +2

    Shop at a farmer's market, butcher, and baker. STOP supporting massive corporations that use tax loopholes to avoid paying taxes. Stop taking cruises, flights, and hotel stays in companies that base themselves in other countries. Many companies fraudulently pose as American but a based in places like the Barbados to avoid paying taxes. STOP purchasing goods that are supported and made with prison labor.
    It's your duty as and American to research where you spend your hard earned dollars. VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET.

  • @Copper20
    @Copper20 Месяц назад +1

    America's always been partially an oligarchy ever since the olden days.

  • @derekbury7262
    @derekbury7262 4 года назад +59

    Oh Yes, Pelosi will help restore democracy. Thanks for the mid morning laugh

    • @airmark02
      @airmark02 4 года назад +2

      Thom the tool

    • @jimmyr9468
      @jimmyr9468 4 года назад +1

      Hmm, I guess you slept right through the Trump disaster of a presidency.

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 4 года назад +5

      @@jimmyr9468 Trump being bad doesn't make Nancy good. The problem with people like Nancy is the media and people like you run interference for them. If all politicians were covered like Trump that would probly help.

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 4 года назад +1

      She is the oligarch of oligarchs. I’m almost tempted to say that the only reason she is in politics is because they don’t let women in the mafia.

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 4 года назад +1

      @@jimmyr9468 what Trump disaster? Gas was cheap, jobs were plentiful, but the oligarchs couldn’t have that so they collaborated with the Chinese communist party to create a pandemic just to hurt as many people as they could as long as Trump was one of them. They are literally willing to let poor people die in the streets as long as they can use the law to bully Donald Trump and his supporters.

  • @briangaines3693
    @briangaines3693 4 года назад +2

    Citizens United must go

  • @jesseyoung4295
    @jesseyoung4295 4 дня назад +1

    Who was in the front row at Trumpf's inauguration, whom also funded his campaign? 3 of the richest people in the world that also control a significant portion of the media. 🤔

  • @miles6593
    @miles6593 4 года назад +3

    Great report Saagar and Krystal . Keep up the great work . Peace and good health to you … Miles from Canada .

  • @IamNexu
    @IamNexu 4 года назад +46

    This guy wasted no time showing his political bias.

    • @Supernautiloid
      @Supernautiloid 4 года назад +6

      Yeah, it’s nice to see honesty from someone at least.

    • @Mathis218337
      @Mathis218337 4 года назад +4

      It’s crazy that people automatically assume political bias when someone is advocating for current legislative / election improvements
      Sorry republicans are so bad that you think that.

    • @needparalegal
      @needparalegal 4 года назад +3

      These guys wear their Leftist delusions like a badge of honor, which makes sense since they have no actual honor....

    • @Supernautiloid
      @Supernautiloid 4 года назад +4

      @@needparalegal Concepts like freedom, liberty, democracy, and justice are not delusions. The fact that you think so is why America is a failed state.

    • @needparalegal
      @needparalegal 4 года назад

      @@Supernautiloid LOL, the Delusion is that you think you stand for any of those things. We are the ones who stand for liberty and freedom.

  • @xXJellimanXx
    @xXJellimanXx 4 года назад +2

    Great clip. Followed up by a Chevron advertisement brought to us by RUclips.

  • @rileysmith8523
    @rileysmith8523 4 года назад +2

    we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy… i feel like no one in the political classes knows that

    • @robdeskrd
      @robdeskrd 4 года назад

      Words don't hold to specific meanings in this country because duplicity is everything.
      People don't care about direct honest communication, they avoid it like the plague, part of this is accomplished in the blurry vocabulary and allowing inappropriate vernacular uses to become the new traditionally understood meaning well retaining the original specific definitions only for scientific, academic and, legal documents..... The powers don't want the populace to think of this as a republic because a republic is the idea of the rule of law universally applied and the powers prefer to live comfortably above the law, this is ever been a trait of the aristocrats and, you can tell they're on their way back when you look at all the self-proclaimed
      Gentry villages/neighborhoods that exist across the United States. If one thinks about the origins of the phrase a sense of entitlement it should become clear the last thing the world needs is more aristocrats

  • @OsirisNeits
    @OsirisNeits 4 года назад +4

    I'm thankful to Thom for the part he played in moving me to the left back during the Bush administration, especially with the Brunch with Bernie segments he had on his show every Friday.
    Having said that, he just helped elect Biden, the definition of an oligarch.

  • @Ghfvhvfg
    @Ghfvhvfg Год назад +2

    Get a direct democracy ilke Switzerland with strict transparency laws.

  • @larryhughes4058
    @larryhughes4058 4 года назад +20

    Thom Hartmann is smart but he needs to read Thomas Frank Listen Liberal.

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 4 года назад

      @RUclipswill Deletemyaccount it is the exact same accusations they made against both George W. Bush and Donald Trump with literally no proof at all. Except where Joe Biden is concerned, there is decades of proof not only of that but of his war crimes both foreign and domestic. The man is a psychopath. He’s everything the left accused Trump of being and worse.
      I will not acknowledge any United States president other than Donald Trump. I will not acknowledge the authority of any white man other than Donald Trump.

    • @parsonj39
      @parsonj39 4 года назад +1

      What specifically do you think Thom needs to learn from Thomas? And if you don't think he's read Listen, Liberal, I think you're probably wrong.

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles 4 года назад

      @Establishment Shill-Troll lol, you're a Cathedral worshipper.

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles 4 года назад

      @Establishment Shill-Troll thank you, much appreciated good sir.

  • @kitsiewr
    @kitsiewr 4 года назад +3

    He's absolutely right. But seems to think corporate democrats will change it - the only time they truly fought was when the populace wanted Bernie - who is the only one who would have tried to change it!

    • @screechingwind114
      @screechingwind114 Год назад

      I Love Bernie ! We Need Billions and Billions , Trillions of Bernies Supporters around the World. He Seems to Be Quite the Unicorn , I better See him in Heaven on Earth next dimension.

  • @lors3987
    @lors3987 4 года назад +12

    I appreciate Thom’s comments and insight, but I think some crucial history is missing here. The reason we had a more equitable society with high tax rates for the rich and robust social programs for a time was not just because FDR was a good guy or something. It’s because there was a huge worker movement in the US at that time and a historic amount of socialist and communist membership at the time. FDR knew that if he didn’t appease them it would be bad for him politically because those groups were very influential and UNIFIED around worker rights and ending the wealth gap. We know Nancy Pelosi doesn’t want money out of politics! She just got caught in that Tesla stock mess. Y’all reported on that. Thom made it sound as though this is more of a republican thing and I don’t understand why. Pelosi isn’t not going to put that bill on the floor unless she knows it won’t go anywhere. Neither would McConnel
    If you want these policies to be legislated, outside pressure is mandatory not optional. We can’t keep electing people on good faith and moral fortitude. We have to build outside pressure through worker solidarity so we can have a say in things. The electoral system is too corrupted for us to take it on good faith that eventually someone who cares about us will do the right thing and reject every incentive along the way to do the opposite.

  • @jackbraddell1150
    @jackbraddell1150 3 года назад +2

    Media helps the oligarchy

  • @Vizerantius
    @Vizerantius 4 года назад +7

    He had me until he said "Republican Oligarchs" too. No Thom it's all the Oligarchs, Republican AND Democratic. Shame Thom, you would still carry democratic water buckets when you could tell the truth

    • @funkyYoutubehandel
      @funkyYoutubehandel 4 года назад +1

      WELL

    • @funkyYoutubehandel
      @funkyYoutubehandel 4 года назад +1

      THATS

    • @funkyYoutubehandel
      @funkyYoutubehandel 4 года назад +2

      POLITICS

    • @brucepoole8552
      @brucepoole8552 3 года назад

      I would say that 100% of republicans are sold out and 80% of democrats are so I throw in with the 20%

    • @Copper20
      @Copper20 Месяц назад

      This still holds true today. America's a constitutional republic, which is a democracy, but it has oligarchy issues by both parties.

  • @myob3038
    @myob3038 3 года назад +2

    It never ends. You can't stop human greed.
    The best you can do is rip their heart out(literally) and start again.

  • @lj5781
    @lj5781 4 года назад +1

    I don't need a book to tell me the solution is to get money out of politics.

  • @stephensuddick2557
    @stephensuddick2557 3 года назад +1

    Great show!

  • @RedRoverTW
    @RedRoverTW 4 года назад +10

    He loves the Democrats and gives them a pass. Don't fool yourself. There's only one party...the corporate party.

  • @PJ_Birds
    @PJ_Birds 4 года назад +3

    Please keep pushing this topic! So much could be solved if we can get corporate money out of politics, all civilian donations to elected officials made public, tougher laws around corruption, and we can figure solid policy (min wage, taxes, education, healthcare, etc) to fix the wealth gap problem in this country. Russia is the perfect example of what can happen if we keep going down this road.

  • @richardredick7515
    @richardredick7515 4 года назад +9

    Thank you for having Thom on. It was great to see the three of you interact, because I watch both shows.
    Saagar, I could tell you did not like/agree with all of Thom's ideas & recommendations. Thank you for being a good sport about it. It made for a better interview , than if it had turned contentious.

  • @jeffcook5998
    @jeffcook5998 4 года назад +1

    Get money out and limit campaign time and make it so people are accountable for lies

  • @chickenfishhybrid44
    @chickenfishhybrid44 4 года назад +27

    Sounds good, too bad he seems to be a simp for democrats that are just as much part of the problem

    • @snoopy_peanuts_77
      @snoopy_peanuts_77 4 года назад +1

      You are the one that's a simp ....He gets it on levels you dont quite get yet...his alliance with dems is purely to avoid the fascist direction of the right which plays directly into the habds of the oligarchs....as youve clearly seen...the only way to get anywhere is to change the vehicle of the dems and use it to open up other areas.....the alternative is a devolution into a police state.....Myanmar latest example among the ones he mentioned

    • @dragonbutt1218
      @dragonbutt1218 4 года назад +4

      @@snoopy_peanuts_77 No, Thom Hartmann has been an over the top Russiagater for the last four years and a complete bootlicker for the DNC. I watched him for over 10 years, but once Hillary's emails came out along with John Podesta's and the DNC's showing how they had rigged the 2016 Primary, he went whole hog with the whole Hillary was cheated by the Russkies nonsense. He really became unlistenable to unless you believe the easily disprovable DNC propaganda.

    • @snoopy_peanuts_77
      @snoopy_peanuts_77 4 года назад

      @@dragonbutt1218 you can disagree with Thom without shyting on him...and oligarchy knows no borders and if you think the ex kgb oil oligarch Putin does not want us destabilized the way we destabilize southern countries you've been drinking the Jimmy Dore too hard...you're gonna need to walk and chew gum to navigate this mess and knee-jerk reactions like that is what lead to people trying to ally with snakes like tucker carlson

    • @snoopy_peanuts_77
      @snoopy_peanuts_77 4 года назад

      @Establishment Shill-Troll sigh...do you man..whatever u say...I'm done trying to reason with dude Bros..it's useless

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 4 года назад

      @@snoopy_peanuts_77 oh please. No-one is saying Putin is a good guy. But literally everything that bad happens isn't Russia. Why don't they ever mention China? Where was that spy from that was having relationships with Democrat politicians again?
      Democrats are not anti-police state. Look at the new domestic terrorism bill. I know many probly don't mind because they think it's guna get the "Fascists" but please don't kid yourself, it will be abused and used against all Americans including your lefty friends.

  • @visicircle
    @visicircle 4 года назад +10

    One big problem: The more diversity of culture and moral narratives in the country, the more dysfunctional democracy becomes. Just as oligarchy collapses into totalitarianism, democracy collapses into the tyranny of the majority, or mob rule. For either of these political systems to remain functional, we must embrace reasoned and dispassionate debate as our ONLY acceptable form of political communication.
    Competency and moral strength are the two major failings in our political discourse right now. I am so glad The Hill embodies both of these virtues.

  • @UnderhillKoufax
    @UnderhillKoufax 4 года назад +7

    The history of US oligarchy sounded valid, but then Hartmann said Nancy Pelosi was going to help save us from oligarchy with HR1. Pelosi IS oligarchy (based on her wealth) and she defends oligarchy (based on her actions), so that argument seems ridiculous at best. Didn’t Hartmann support oligarchy (Clinton) in 2016? I think he lost credibility on this issue for that reason alone.

  • @rodneykinnaird7613
    @rodneykinnaird7613 Год назад +1

    they say that the rich should pay their fair share of tax and yet the same people who are making these statements are also part of the rich?=so nothing happens to the rich....

  • @mattjacksonnb
    @mattjacksonnb 4 года назад +2

    This is an EXCELLENT SUMMARY, Thank you Thom Hartmann!

  • @necelticsox
    @necelticsox 4 года назад +3

    What people need to realize is that the problem isn't that some people have too much capital, it's that some people have too little.

  • @JML-TruthBelongsToEverybody
    @JML-TruthBelongsToEverybody 4 года назад +11

    It’s late stage capitalism ~ per Chris Hedges

  • @Bluebelle51
    @Bluebelle51 4 года назад +21

    The problem with Thom Hartmann is he's such a democrat complaining that the oligarchs took over when he supported Hillary Clinton

    • @NotShowingOff
      @NotShowingOff 4 года назад

      He had Sanders on his show for a while and has ppl like Ro Khanna on in the present. I mean, the way to create pressure is to put pressure in the primaries rather than wait for the general.

    • @Bluebelle51
      @Bluebelle51 4 года назад +5

      @@NotShowingOff I started following Bernie because of his "Brunch with Bernie" segments, of course, as soon as Bernie started running against Hillary, he was unceremoniously dumped from the show, and now he's stanning for Warren.
      You know, the snake? Yeah, he lost all credibility in 2015 and has done nothing to regain it since

    • @NotShowingOff
      @NotShowingOff 4 года назад

      Bluebelle51 he does have Richard Wolff on the show. And Democracy at Work is an excellent channel. I wouldn’t blame someone for supporting Warren over Sanders. The truth is you need hundreds more of either.

    • @Bluebelle51
      @Bluebelle51 4 года назад +2

      @@NotShowingOff He supported Hillary over Bernie
      nuff said

    • @Bluebelle51
      @Bluebelle51 4 года назад +3

      @@NotShowingOff Anyone who supports Warren, NOW, is no longer credible

  • @sjacks3281
    @sjacks3281 3 года назад +1

    we've always been an oligarchy.
    Our founders wanted an oligarchy.
    We don't have a democracy. if only up to a quarter of the population chooses the winner of our elections, that's not a democracy.
    Our constitutional republic is an oligarchy.

  • @jensboettiger5286
    @jensboettiger5286 4 года назад +1

    So he wants blue oligarchs instead of red ones and we should pretend that’s democracy.

  • @beornthebear.8220
    @beornthebear.8220 Год назад +2

    People get sick of being worked to death to get nowhere. Housing gets out of reach, putting them back into serfdom, and each day is a challenge just to py bills and eat. They have no time or energy to do anything else,

  • @docholiday8029
    @docholiday8029 4 года назад +29

    Greed wins.
    Odds favor vice.
    Unless we get money out of politics.

  • @xqt39a
    @xqt39a 10 месяцев назад

    Great comments!

  • @politicsafterdark-MJ
    @politicsafterdark-MJ 3 года назад +1

    @breakingpoints
    Have Tom on again please

  • @mikeaustin4138
    @mikeaustin4138 4 года назад +2

    Unspoken, but vital, is that voting for republicans and/or democrats MUST END. We *desperately* need more competition in our political sphere and we're not going to get it unless we stop voting for the two political parties that are the instruments of the ruling elites.

    • @parsonj39
      @parsonj39 4 года назад

      Not so sure you're right. We already have a variety of parties, and the New Deal essentially left the party duopoly in place but distributed power a lot more widely--though not widely enough, as it turns out.

    • @mikeaustin4138
      @mikeaustin4138 4 года назад

      @@parsonj39 Does anyone *seriously* believe either major political party is going to reform itself? Americans are polled near to death. Our elected representatives know where we stand. Has it been reflected in their behavior? Absolutely not. My point is to start voting third-party for two reasons. It's a more effective protest vote than holding your nose and voting for the lesser of two evils. And, it may help to dispel the "wasted vote" mindset and wind up actually getting some third-party candidates elected to office.

  • @misterdanielo3281
    @misterdanielo3281 4 года назад +1

    More Thom, please

  • @rrosaseconda
    @rrosaseconda 4 года назад +5

    Kudos for featuring Thom Hartmann. He has a great gift for perceiving and explaining U.S. history in the most intelligible way.

  • @charade539
    @charade539 4 года назад +3

    Really not a fan of the idea that things will just magically get better or worse someday in the mystical future when I'm probably 80 and still working because I can't afford to retire. That's what they want. They want us to just hope someday maybe things will be better....just get back to work at your minimum wage job and stay too tired and stressed and depressed to rise up.

  • @petersepall2590
    @petersepall2590 4 года назад +13

    It's not just American oligarchy but global oligarchy that is entrenching itself regardless of they dysfunction it produces. Hartman's analysis is superficial at best.

    • @weaksause6878
      @weaksause6878 4 года назад +1

      This ^
      I wish I could like a comment more than once.

  • @WhitneyHaverstock
    @WhitneyHaverstock 4 года назад +10

    *Thank you!* Between this and that Ted Talk on Tweedism, perhaps I can steer my family away from partisan insanity. As for the oligarchs * *pulls down ski mask* * ... sorry it's cold here in Minnesota and I'm outside playing with the puppy while typing this, what were we talking about?

  • @infiniteinfiniteinfi
    @infiniteinfiniteinfi 4 года назад +8

    Early stage oligarchy, after 40 years with total oligarchy?

  • @EverettBurger
    @EverettBurger 4 года назад +5

    "Elizabeth Warren has a lot of good steps for that."

  • @AlexGullen
    @AlexGullen 4 года назад

    Great analysis!

  • @DevilJin01
    @DevilJin01 4 года назад +4

    Thom is really good. He gets into a lot of fringe topics that help get a deeper understanding of why things are the way they are in Washington

  • @robby2867
    @robby2867 4 года назад +1

    Regan invited the oligarchs in, but Carter is the one who set the stage for him to do it

  • @jamaalgill2740
    @jamaalgill2740 4 года назад +2

    Saagar's facial reaction to Thom Hartmann mispronouncing his name in the beginning is pure comedy

  • @winterland122977
    @winterland122977 4 года назад +1

    Listen to Thom Hartman long enough and he sounds all progressive and great, but in the end does his real job and tries to shepherd his audience right back to the Dems. Was for Hillary and Biden. All I need to know, everything else is blah, blah, blah.

  • @Ammon6
    @Ammon6 4 года назад

    That will never end.

  • @perkinsjw1
    @perkinsjw1 4 года назад +1

    This was terrible. Nancy Pelosi is fighting oligarchy? How did I miss that? Warren is on the side of the Reddit Rebellion? This guy is so biased it’s hard to watch. I’ve listened to his radio show and come to the same conclusion. Would have been nice to see Krystal and Saagar push back on some of this.

  • @henrymacleod2006
    @henrymacleod2006 4 года назад +3

    Was with ths guy until the end when he said the person to fix Wall Street is Elizabeth Warren. Just because we want to get rid of Big Brother Wall Street doesn't mean we want Big Mommy Government to take it's place.

    • @henrymacleod2006
      @henrymacleod2006 4 года назад +1

      @Yo Momma Found the Warren shill, right on time.

    • @lorrainewest7408
      @lorrainewest7408 4 года назад

      Strange when Wall Street basically changed all the rules & Regulations via big Mommy Government to suit their OWN best interests, so they had their own power control on the levers. Via Wall Street to Government positions with usually these rather funny Jewish names. Most of them ending in useless for the masses.

  • @chibinyra
    @chibinyra 4 месяца назад +1

    Haha, losing Krystal and Saagar was such a dumb thing for The Hill to do.

  • @gloriastanleygarcia4681
    @gloriastanleygarcia4681 4 года назад

    Excellent analysis, thank you for informing me.

  • @johnsuder7671
    @johnsuder7671 4 года назад

    Awesome segment !!

  • @Gairuntee
    @Gairuntee 4 года назад +5

    So how is the US NOT a police state? Not being obtuse, genuinely want to know.

    • @hughparker3971
      @hughparker3971 4 года назад +1

      You are correct, to a large degree, a police state has developed. This has driven calls to defund the police state, but because of the way many engage in politics as though it were a competition between sports teams, the fan(atic)s pay little or no attention to the problems the oligarchs implement behind their favorite team and just focus on hating the other team and support the developing police state.

    • @mariamorgan3009
      @mariamorgan3009 5 месяцев назад

      It is

  • @Scrooks1
    @Scrooks1 4 года назад

    Sorry Thom, it's not Republican oligarchs this time, it's Democrats that have created this current oligarchy. Big Tech is very much invested in DEMOCRATS.

  • @mildredmartinez8843
    @mildredmartinez8843 4 года назад

    Good reporting. The end of

  • @accrualworld318
    @accrualworld318 4 года назад +5

    I consider myself apolitical but this show leans more populous Left than Right with its guests. Can we get more right leaning guests such as Glen Loury and Kmele Foster and some center-left guests such as John McWhorter who is coming out with a book soon? This show could use more balance.

    • @ATMyles
      @ATMyles 4 года назад +1

      I’m a huge fan of all those folks and I’d love to see them here, as I do anywhere, but public intellectuals aren’t generally in Rising’s wheelhouse. Most of the guests/panelists are journalists or political strategists. Although...they’ve had Bret Weinstein and Eric Weinstein on (both discussed the political divide), so maybe they’ll start casting a wider net and discuss more social issues. It would be great for the show and its viewers. Fingers crossed.

    • @accrualworld318
      @accrualworld318 4 года назад

      @@ATMyles Yes. Fingers crossed. They often have Zaid on to discuss social issues and they have authors on quite often. John McWhorter is coming out with a book and Glen Loury and Kmele can discuss social issues when they arise again (and they will arise again).

  • @chrisbaxter489
    @chrisbaxter489 4 года назад +2

    I'm still betting we have an economic collapse before we have any real legislation to fix it. Wall St was smart enough to tie the middle class to their casino scheme through pensions, no one wants to jeopardize their retirement. That's what keeps the establishment large and in charge!!

    • @dennismitchell5276
      @dennismitchell5276 4 года назад +1

      I fear we would need such an extreme collapse it shuts down the government and the FED. We have had collapses and they did everything they could to save wall street.

    • @chrisbaxter489
      @chrisbaxter489 4 года назад

      @@dennismitchell5276 Agreed, with every crisis they bail out the rich. I just think greed has its own demise built in, you can only over leverage and inflate something for so long until it blows. Only a matter of time.

  • @synaptik111
    @synaptik111 4 года назад +5

    Thom Hartmann, the guy who backed $hillary Clinton and called Jill Stein voters "idiots" after the DNC effed over Bernie. Pass...

  • @nriqueog
    @nriqueog 4 года назад

    My next READ!

  • @mildredmartinez8843
    @mildredmartinez8843 4 года назад +7

    "American Exceptionalism" if there ever was. And bring on oligarchy. Meanwhile the American people are hoodwinked into believing what America is not.

    • @parsonj39
      @parsonj39 4 года назад

      Huh? What are you babbling about?

  • @TheArtist808
    @TheArtist808 4 года назад +1

    Legislation can go a long way.. We're doomed

  • @darinbasile6754
    @darinbasile6754 4 года назад

    Excellent

  • @kg-ke1fw
    @kg-ke1fw 4 года назад +2

    Thom has a lot of great information BUT he's become a big defender of the DNC and dem party as a whole. I was shocked how he defended biden and harris in the primary (even though he said he was wanting bernie or warren) and now cuts people off of his show when they are bashing biden and the corporate dems.

    • @Cyrus992
      @Cyrus992 4 года назад

      I have a new video exposing him~

  • @MackB2023
    @MackB2023 4 года назад

    Powerful

  • @dammitol25mg19
    @dammitol25mg19 4 года назад

    Superb discussion

  • @nathanfielure4305
    @nathanfielure4305 4 года назад +6

    Can't take anyone who agrees with Elizabeth "the snake" Warren seriously.

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 4 года назад

      So now she is lying about her species just like she lied about her race?

  • @Nahuatl22
    @Nahuatl22 4 года назад +1

    This is the most misleading title I’ve seen to date.

  • @robertpolnicky7702
    @robertpolnicky7702 2 месяца назад

    I never realized that had gone to the supreme court connected case to citizens united previously until i interned for a corporate law firm in denver. At that point in time though you didnt have the mess we have now. The forseeability was lower. When the justices made their decision. It was like the joplin rain wrapped tirnado.

  • @flyinace54
    @flyinace54 4 года назад +5

    Saagar l;ooks like he's staring into my soul at 2:47

  • @livondiramerian6999
    @livondiramerian6999 4 года назад

    People are connected what harms one harms all.

  • @Username18981
    @Username18981 4 года назад +3

    Options on Robinhood do have fees. Just buying and selling dont.

    • @WhitneyHaverstock
      @WhitneyHaverstock 4 года назад +2

      Don't they make most their $$ selling user information anyway? That's what I heard but I don't really know anything.