God, I was mostly siding with Nate through the argument but that line was fucking brutal.Honestly they both saw right through each other and called out genuine flaws,, while refusing to acknowledge their own.
After hearing that line in my current relationship struggle it actually broke my heart last night. I love my bf so much but we are long distance and we are having issues but this scene hits hard.
Re-watching all five seasons so I can enjoy brilliant scenes like this. This fight was the culmination of two season's worth of bad choices and unresolved issues between these two complex and fully realized characters.
"The only reason you stayed with me is because I was never fucking here..." The level of writing and acting on this show will never cease to amaze me. I miss it so....
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This is by far and away the most tense moment of the show, tripled when you're watching and you're just waiting for this moment when Nate realizes Brenda's been cheating on him. Nate's reaction is perfect, and the acting by the both of them is phenomenal. "There, barf" gives me chills every time. The entirety of season 2 was the high point of SFU for me.
Seasons 1 and 2 are very good, but in season 3 it goes downhill. I couldnt go past season 3 first time, now im trying to watch it again and im thinking the same thing. After Nate goes into that operation everything changes. Currently watching season 4 and its even worse, sex scenes everywhere and nothing deep into.
@@Crisfersan1 I rewatched recently. Seasons 1 and 2 are the best, 3 is pretty dreadful and 4 and 5 are ok perse but still below the brilliance of 1 and 2. Some of the big fuck ups in the last 3 seasons is they ruined Claire's character. She went from 1 of the most interesting in the early years to boring and the whole art story that dominated her later years as well as her pretentious friends sucked. Her high school boyfriend and friends were much more interesting. Also her turning all political in season 5 about war etc-like wtf? They should have just kept writing her like a typical young adult but instead from season 3 they ruined her. Ambrose nailed the part so well in the early years that the writers totally fucked up there. The absence of Brenda in season 3 really made a dent and her replacement Lisa was annoying as fuck. Ruth's character was written pretty badly in season 3 and the whole her chasing after Arthur was tiresome. Her hippy sister too added nothing to the plot and the complete over emphasis on Nate in season 3 killed the show. The show became too slow moving in the last 3 seasons also and the humour was gone. They totally also went into overkill in season 3 with the whole fantasy/dream sequences especially with nate and Lisa. 4 got the worst ratings by the critics it seems but it was an improvement on the awful season 3. Also the whole writing became lazy and frustrating- Lisa's disappearance conclusion was inconclusive and brushed under the carpet too quickly. The audience never heard Barb or Nate talk about the shocking revelation that Hoyt killed her and it would have being good to hear their thoughts on it-especially such a major storyline that dominated almost 2 seasons.
Brenda would be such a fucking CHORE to deal with in a relationship. All her fucking pretentious bullshit......can't believe Nate stomached it for so long.
2:54 “You felt safe with her because you were leaving the next day. Nate, you created a human being! There’s going to be another person on this planet now, a person who might have a totally miserable fucking life and curse the FUCKING day she was born because YOU are walking out on her the same way you’re gonna walk out on me!” - this was one of Rachel Griffiths’ strongest moments playing Brenda, as well as her addressing Maggie on her doorstep in the final season. She did such a phenomenal job with this role
For all her flaws, Brenda is pointing out why men are usually so much worse than women. They can't come to terms with parenthood-- the responsibility it really entails. This breakup is all too believable. The pressure just gets to you.
@@SuperRobertoClemente yes she's pointing out his flaws,not all mens. Nate doesn't represent all men and you know I meant that. Stop being obtuse as well as sexist.
Six Feet Under is the greatest television drama series of all time. It was life changing and a game changer. Probably the greatest cast ever assembled. This is the greatest break up scene ever acted. You felt every single emotion.
Great fight scene. The Sopranos was great for the characters that they were. You can't really say one is better than the other. It's like 2 kids getting a 100 on an acting test.
3:47 I remember how I got nervous when I watched that. It's like real people fighting. I want them to stop and I can't do anything. It's so uncomfortable.
The scene is fantastic in that it is a scene that is so easy to relate to for everybody and not just romantic relationships. It was a fight that was the result of prolonged resentment on both sides-both were angry and silently simmering over unresolved issues the other had done and said and here was the tipping point where they both finally snapped and released all their anger and opened up with hard home truths at long last. It is so universally identifiable as we have all been there and many of us are still there- it can be a relationship with your mum, lover, best friend, colleague... You [or neither of you] never confront issues when they happen [these issues can be the simplest things like over housework or a jibe the person made at you 6 months earlier and you never addressed it at the time...] You silently simmer over it and then 1 day something snaps. Both of you will have the biggest fight ever and because there is so much pent-up anger and deeply hidden resentment bubbling, the release is so much more dramatic as the anger is all built up and needing release and you lose control. Worse though is when the resentment is inside but never gets released and the other person never knows how much they pissed you off and you are angry at yourself too for not having the balls to confront them. Confrontation is so hard to do for so many of us especially when the facts are ugly but it is the most therapeutic thing when you can let it all out [especially anger and resentment] and let the other person know exactly how you feel sometimes. Only then can progress happen.
Brenda is dead on right. The only reason Nate stayed with her was becsuse she was never really there. And to prove that, when she IS actually there, when they're married, he dumps her because "they don't fit". Nate couldn't really commit to anything, and ultimately ends up throwing away the closest thing to love he's ever had. And then dies. He's such a tragic character.
Thats easier said than done. The problem with people like Brenda is that they back track to their old ways so often you can never really trust when they decide to commit.
While i agree brenda was right, shes not innocent herself, shes arguably the worse of two evils in the relationship, she’ll say something about someones mental health or process, and just because shes right, she thinks it means that nothings her fault, i can say that the sky is red, but if you punched me and told me it was blue and that i only said it was red because im dyslexic and was thinking about something that was red, and you happened to be right, does that make you punching me ok?
@@shadyomo3636 I think that's the point. They're both completely right about each other here and yet they can't accept their own shitty qualities so they just call each other out. Of course Brenda did grow past her more toxic traits by the end, but in all fairness she also didn't die tragically young.
Tragic? He passed away while being in complete peace w where he was in life…you need to rewatch the show once you’ve grown up.. You should be so lucky to go on those terms
The actor portraying the skater California-type did a pretty great job :) Oh, and I love the line “Who the fuck am I...who the fuck are YOU!?” One of my favorite scenes...ever.
Yep, Brenda became my favorite character on the show by the final season. Her character arc, maturation and self-actualization was written and acted beautifully, while Nate devolved into a cruel, insufferable, self-absorbed malcontent. He's not missed.
Still the second best most dramatic TV breakup of all time, bested only by Tony and Carmella In ‘Whitecaps’. Thanks for posting. His final break up with her in ‘Ecotone’ was brutally cold and we never saw her tell anyone, on camera.
"dont you throw that ring at me that's such a fucking cliche, I'll fucking barf...." I think of this line often....whenever anyone says something cliche....
20yr old show and still one of the most authentic shows ever created. Of course, there is plenty of good 'new' stuff on the telly, but nothing really comes close to this. Arguebly one of the best 5 TV shows of all time.❤
That surfer dude paid her back....I'm referring to earlier episode when the 3way took place.... surfer dude asking for her number and Brenda replying with 'why? So we can date?'
If Brenda is supposed to be so intelligent, she isn't half confused. This show must have the best character development of all time. From the start, you get to know the characters and by the end, you see a true realistic evolution. Beautiful screenplay.
After watching the whole series, I think that Brenda had a point there. Nate has been always running away, since the beggining. He is a good person, but he is way too self absorbed.
they both had good points, think that was kind of the point. Nate loved to run away and feared comittment, he'd being doing it all his life-the minute things became complicated he'd just desert people and it was all their fault on his mind, it is like he was seeking something he could never find.
@@demogog3449 I don't think she was a sex addict, it was more that she used sex as a tool to beat her demons or run from her fears. So when things became too serious with Nate, she used sex with the skater kid to escape the responsibilities of an adult relationship and revert to her younger self/youth of freedom and no committment. She needed to be free as she hadn't quite matured yet, Nate was the same and so they were both unable to handle the maturity of a committed relationship. Emotional infants. At the end though before Nate died, I felt she had finally matured when she tried to get back with him and she'd grown. She was ready for the world of adult relationships and commitment, he however rejected it as he knew he wasn't at that stage yet. Yet even in this he showed maturity in embracing the fact that he couldn't handle it.
@@shanefolan It's really hard to truly commit to anything in life if either A) You're not good at it, or B) You don't enjoy doing it. Nate suffered from either problem A or B his entire life. Well......one exception.....he was good at taking care of Maya, and enjoyed it too. He loved his daughter. But that's not enough for a full life.
I laughed when he asked ''did you fuck your brother''-it was his delivery, he asked such an outrageous question in such a casual way like it was a normal question and it was brilliant and her passive response made it even funnier. It seems to be that the last 3 seasons are where it divides the fans and somebody said to me once they think people didn't like the last 3 seasons as the humour was gone and that's a good point-the first 2 seasons had some really good dark humour like the quote I alluded to. No issue was out of bounds.
Holy shit, I'm a huge Boards of Canada fan and I never realized that Happy Cycling was playing during this scene, it was so intense I guess I just tuned it out but damn this show always has the best music
4:27 the way she flinched when he tossed the ring, it felt so satisfying to see her break but also felt horrible to watch her crumble. They were bad for eachother
I detested Brenda before this scene. After it I was able to see just how broken and confused she was. Does not make what she did any better but at least you can see how people can make evil shit like this without really being evil.
watching brenda in the first two seasons of this show made me so pissed off like I've never been before, and I love characters who do morally questionable things! but she is just so miserable and pointlessly cruel to nate and flippant about her relationship with him that it actively aggravated me every time she cheated on him. but I do have to admit, this scene was so flawlessly executed that I can't be mad anymore. so much buildup for what is easily the most cathartic moment in any television scene I've seen
My favorite Brenda scene was when she got asked to leave the department store where she was picking up on that guy whose wife was in the dressing room. The saleswoman asked her if she could help her and Brenda said "I'm looking for clothes so expensive only an idiot would buy them. Oh, here they are."
Nate, you created human being. Now, there's gonna be another person on this planet who might as well have totally fucking miserable life. Brenda's very hurt inside.
I'm leaving my comment to stress out how greatly the music was selected as a background in SFU. And I've only realized that when I heard tunes I know. /boards of canada works just perfectly here!
dummytree Brenda sounds a little weird throughout the scene, but it is because she is Australian. I imagine it would be really difficult to act in a fighting/crying scene and maintain your fake American accent.
I was in a miserable marriage when this show was on. This scene hit me deep because they said everything my ex and I felt towards each other. 3 kids and a divorce later we’ve managed to “open up some honest dialogue “ about how we really feel.
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"The only reason you stay with me is because I was never really here."
One of my favorite lines. Ever.
God, I was mostly siding with Nate through the argument but that line was fucking brutal.Honestly they both saw right through each other and called out genuine flaws,, while refusing to acknowledge their own.
What does that mean man?
After hearing that line in my current relationship struggle it actually broke my heart last night. I love my bf so much but we are long distance and we are having issues but this scene hits hard.
Such a cliche ill fkn barf🤣
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Wow i just finished this show today
fucking master class in acting right here.
oh, and writing, and directing, and cinematography, and lighting...
iBrews yes !!! ❤️
in 2002! on fucking TV!!!!!!! SFU is one of the greatest show ever
@@jonc3214 yes they do, some of the acting in modern shows like Ozark would easily hold up to this.
@@shanefolan9175don’t even try to compare ozark to this show
everything they say about each other is completely true, which is exactly what makes this scene so brilliant.
Coming back to this show 10 years later and tears are still coming down.
Hands down one of the best shows to ever grace television
Yeah Rachel Griffiths was such and incredible character. One of the most complex ever portrayed on screen. I really admire her acting talents.
Even though Brenda was 100% wrong for what she did to Nate a lot of the things she says to him are true.
I want to hear the rest of the ATM story..
Well, first it went in a butt, then it went into her mouth.
That is what ATM is
I fucking love youtube comments.
Well, Brenda WAS banging two guys in her story, I am sure some "ATM" happened at some point
"There, barf."
Such a great line.
how utterly fantastic is this scene.
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Wow... You really have bad taste, mate... My condolences to you! :(((
Gustav. I didn't die. Read the words i'm typing. I'm alive.
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A different type of condolence, my friend.
Gustav, Oh.
one of the best scenes of SFU
One of the best fight scenes ever, only Tony & Carmela breaking up in Sopranos has the same intensity.
try sam and diane in cheers at end of season 2 was very intense.
What about this one?
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I just started watching it last week so, Marriage Story fight was the one came to my mind.
@@sreeragks106l just started watching a few weeks ago 🤜🏾
And the argument between Kevin and Nora in The Leftovers.
Re-watching all five seasons so I can enjoy brilliant scenes like this. This fight was the culmination of two season's worth of bad choices and unresolved issues between these two complex and fully realized characters.
"The only reason you stayed with me is because I was never fucking here..."
The level of writing and acting on this show will never cease to amaze me.
I miss it so....
This show is the shit. I haven't watched a show that has touched me like this before.
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it's that pause after she says 'The only reason you stayed with me was because I was never really here'.....
+joek This scene is amazing. God the way these two play off each other.
Yeh ciz she knows there's no going back after that.
This is by far and away the most tense moment of the show, tripled when you're watching and you're just waiting for this moment when Nate realizes Brenda's been cheating on him. Nate's reaction is perfect, and the acting by the both of them is phenomenal. "There, barf" gives me chills every time. The entirety of season 2 was the high point of SFU for me.
Seasons 1 and 2 are very good, but in season 3 it goes downhill. I couldnt go past season 3 first time, now im trying to watch it again and im thinking the same thing. After Nate goes into that operation everything changes. Currently watching season 4 and its even worse, sex scenes everywhere and nothing deep into.
@@Crisfersan1 agreed seasons 1 and 2 were the best-after that the show never reaches the same heights again.
@@Crisfersan1 I rewatched recently. Seasons 1 and 2 are the best, 3 is pretty dreadful and 4 and 5 are ok perse but still below the brilliance of 1 and 2. Some of the big fuck ups in the last 3 seasons is they ruined Claire's character. She went from 1 of the most interesting in the early years to boring and the whole art story that dominated her later years as well as her pretentious friends sucked.
Her high school boyfriend and friends were much more interesting. Also her turning all political in season 5 about war etc-like wtf? They should have just kept writing her like a typical young adult but instead from season 3 they ruined her. Ambrose nailed the part so well in the early years that the writers totally fucked up there.
The absence of Brenda in season 3 really made a dent and her replacement Lisa was annoying as fuck. Ruth's character was written pretty badly in season 3 and the whole her chasing after Arthur was tiresome. Her hippy sister too added nothing to the plot and the complete over emphasis on Nate in season 3 killed the show.
The show became too slow moving in the last 3 seasons also and the humour was gone. They totally also went into overkill in season 3 with the whole fantasy/dream sequences especially with nate and Lisa.
4 got the worst ratings by the critics it seems but it was an improvement on the awful season 3. Also the whole writing became lazy and frustrating- Lisa's disappearance conclusion was inconclusive and brushed under the carpet too quickly.
The audience never heard Barb or Nate talk about the shocking revelation that Hoyt killed her and it would have being good to hear their thoughts on it-especially such a major storyline that dominated almost 2 seasons.
Brenda would be such a fucking CHORE to deal with in a relationship. All her fucking pretentious bullshit......can't believe Nate stomached it for so long.
Season 3 is easily the best season right behind 5. What on earth are you guys watching lmao. Claires arc is easily one of the best written.
2:54 “You felt safe with her because you were leaving the next day. Nate, you created a human being! There’s going to be another person on this planet now, a person who might have a totally miserable fucking life and curse the FUCKING day she was born because YOU are walking out on her the same way you’re gonna walk out on me!”
- this was one of Rachel Griffiths’ strongest moments playing Brenda, as well as her addressing Maggie on her doorstep in the final season. She did such a phenomenal job with this role
For all her flaws, Brenda is pointing out why men are usually so much worse than women. They can't come to terms with parenthood-- the responsibility it really entails. This breakup is all too believable. The pressure just gets to you.
@@SuperRobertoClemente It has nothing to do with gender.
@@shanefolan9175 Really? This isn't a fight between a man and a woman?
@@SuperRobertoClemente yes she's pointing out his flaws,not all mens. Nate doesn't represent all men and you know I meant that. Stop being obtuse as well as sexist.
Brenda's cheating was worse and FAR more often than nates solitary incident of cheating
Six Feet Under is the greatest television drama series of all time. It was life changing and a game changer. Probably the greatest cast ever assembled. This is the greatest break up scene ever acted. You felt every single emotion.
Great fight scene. The Sopranos was great for the characters that they were. You can't really say one is better than the other. It's like 2 kids getting a 100 on an acting test.
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One of the best fight scenes between 2 complex characters ever portrayed on TV. Realistic. Raw. Unnerving. Just plain fun. Bravo.
Check out the fight between Tony and Carmela on the Sopranos. Tony punched a hole in the wall.
@@STMARTIN009 Haven't you said that like a million times?
I always laugh at Nate's reaction to the "fucking great haircut" line
i laughed when he asked ''did you fuck your brother''.
that makes two of us 😂
@@ProdBrizo-yb8ql Three of us
@@matter8138 Four of us. The hair is pretty fucking great.
I searched up this video just to see if people were talking about this. the face I made..... oh my god what a fucking great line lmfao
Brilliant acting and this masterpiece of a show never ages or becomes irrelevant
This is still one of the most realistic dysfunctional couple fights in a fictional tv show that I’ve ever seen. Incredible acting.
3:47 I remember how I got nervous when I watched that. It's like real people fighting. I want them to stop and I can't do anything. It's so uncomfortable.
This is the realest fight I've ever seen in fiction of any kind...
The scene is fantastic in that it is a scene that is so easy to relate to for everybody and not just romantic relationships. It was a fight that was the result of prolonged resentment on both sides-both were angry and silently simmering over unresolved issues the other had done and said and here was the tipping point where they both finally snapped and released all their anger and opened up with hard home truths at long last.
It is so universally identifiable as we have all been there and many of us are still there- it can be a relationship with your mum, lover, best friend, colleague... You [or neither of you] never confront issues when they happen [these issues can be the simplest things like over housework or a jibe the person made at you 6 months earlier and you never addressed it at the time...] You silently simmer over it and then 1 day something snaps. Both of you will have the biggest fight ever and because there is so much pent-up anger and deeply hidden resentment bubbling, the release is so much more dramatic as the anger is all built up and needing release and you lose control.
Worse though is when the resentment is inside but never gets released and the other person never knows how much they pissed you off and you are angry at yourself too for not having the balls to confront them. Confrontation is so hard to do for so many of us especially when the facts are ugly but it is the most therapeutic thing when you can let it all out [especially anger and resentment] and let the other person know exactly how you feel sometimes. Only then can progress happen.
Just reminds me of how so many of us get into relationships that are doomed from the beginning.
worse is when we are born into toxic relationships like this ie. family
That's the only kind I know:)
@@shanefolan yea I believe most toxic relationships come from being born into a toxic family. Healthy people are not tolerant towards toxicity.
@@ijdiya0072 perhaps but the thing is that toxic people are everywhere because it can be inherent in human nature.
Brenda is dead on right. The only reason Nate stayed with her was becsuse she was never really there. And to prove that, when she IS actually there, when they're married, he dumps her because "they don't fit". Nate couldn't really commit to anything, and ultimately ends up throwing away the closest thing to love he's ever had. And then dies. He's such a tragic character.
Thats easier said than done. The problem with people like Brenda is that they back track to their old ways so often you can never really trust when they decide to commit.
While i agree brenda was right, shes not innocent herself, shes arguably the worse of two evils in the relationship, she’ll say something about someones mental health or process, and just because shes right, she thinks it means that nothings her fault, i can say that the sky is red, but if you punched me and told me it was blue and that i only said it was red because im dyslexic and was thinking about something that was red, and you happened to be right, does that make you punching me ok?
@@shadyomo3636 I think that's the point. They're both completely right about each other here and yet they can't accept their own shitty qualities so they just call each other out. Of course Brenda did grow past her more toxic traits by the end, but in all fairness she also didn't die tragically young.
Tragic?
He passed away while being in complete peace w where he was in life…you need to rewatch the show once you’ve grown up..
You should be so lucky to go on those terms
Dumping her minutes before he dies, was savage.
i don't think either one of them said one untrue thing about the other. this freaking show i swear to god.....
This fight... it's some of the best acting you'll ever see.
The actor portraying the skater California-type did a pretty great job :) Oh, and I love the line “Who the fuck am I...who the fuck are YOU!?” One of my favorite scenes...ever.
Austin Nichols! He appears in Deadwood and was the star of John From Cincinnati (both HBO shows by David Milch).
"There, barf" such great delivery!
Brenda was the worst the first 2 season's but redeemed herself and Nate went out like an asshole.
Yep, Brenda became my favorite character on the show by the final season. Her character arc, maturation and self-actualization was written and acted beautifully, while Nate devolved into a cruel, insufferable, self-absorbed malcontent. He's not missed.
Nate in Season 5 was MESSY. He wasnt the Nate we knew in seasons 1-3, Lisa really did a number on him.
@@MarkBrinkerhoff lol nate was literally dying that fucks your head you miss the point completely
Yeah by Season 5, Nate turned into a total asshole in the end
i loved their fights so much. I don’t want what they had but the intensity is there
Jesus, this writing is off the hook. Brilliant. I need to revisit this show.
great actors, BRenda was fantastic and this fight so full of adrenaline and so heart breaking
One of my fave scenes in TV history!
You have good taste my dude!
This show had all their golden globes well deserved. Masterclass acting from both Krause and Griffiths (severely underrated)
i loved them both together when they fought.. this show was just purely awesome and i miss it so.
This is some killer acting. A+
Still the second best most dramatic TV breakup of all time, bested only by Tony and Carmella In ‘Whitecaps’. Thanks for posting. His final break up with her in ‘Ecotone’ was brutally cold and we never saw her tell anyone, on camera.
"dont you throw that ring at me that's such a fucking cliche, I'll fucking barf...." I think of this line often....whenever anyone says something cliche....
this is the best scene in the whole 2nd season , great dialogue and amazing acting
SUCH a great scene!!! Dammit, these two, they couldn't be better.
Six Feet Under was the best series I ever had the chance to watch. They never did came close to such a masterpiece ever since.
Soundtrack to this scene is Boards of Canada - Happy Cycling
One of my favorite songs from my favorite album... and I didn't even notice it the first time because of how captivating this scene was lol
@@isaiahromero9861 Check out the "Bad Day" version if you haven't ruclips.net/video/CYvrslX-28o/видео.html
brenda was such an amazing actress. the first half of seson 3 was boring until she came back.
Sooo Boards of Canada is my favourite band and SFU is my favourite TV show. So you can imagine how much I live for this scene.
THE best tv show ever, extremely realistic. Probably the best couple scene fight also, perfection
Not a show but revolutionary road is the best ever. Leonardo vs Kate.
@@nahyeahwhatsahandle that was an epic fight
The fight between Ruth and Nate in season 3 was better IMO
20yr old show and still one of the most authentic shows ever created. Of course, there is plenty of good 'new' stuff on the telly, but nothing really comes close to this. Arguebly one of the best 5 TV shows of all time.❤
"With the fucking great haircut!" Lmaoo
Love this scene it really shows how much they love each other but of course they get in their own way to be happy
That surfer dude paid her back....I'm referring to earlier episode when the 3way took place.... surfer dude asking for her number and Brenda replying with 'why? So we can date?'
I never looked at it that way (;
@@rhiannongoguen7667 me neither, it was more he thought she was a slut and nate was another conquest.
A master class in acting ! Masterpiece
Most relevant comment so far :-)
The other great fight scene on an HBO series is between Tony and Carmela on the Sopranos
@@STMARTIN009 haven't you said that like 100 times already?
best fight scene i've ever seen.
Rachels acting in this is incredible
I don't know what's better: the acting or the writing.
A legendary scene
amen
Brenda's my favorite character, so funny dude
Parce que c'était elle.
laurence reynaud Yeah i agree
one of the best characters ever written
I hated them so much for being so damaged and naive, but then they really grew on me as the show went on. My fav is still Ruth, and Claire after her
@@MellowJelly claire was good in the early years, after season 3 the character became so much less interesting imho.
Omg. 4:22 I can't stop laughing.
Starting working at a Funeral home. All the workers suggested I watch this series. Love it
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Oh my god hahah same, I replayed this part over and over and just laughed harder and harder xD
If Brenda is supposed to be so intelligent, she isn't half confused. This show must have the best character development of all time. From the start, you get to know the characters and by the end, you see a true realistic evolution. Beautiful screenplay.
I HATED Brenda for most of this season, but she's dead on here.
I still hate her, the only difference is i hate nate too now, but i also love them both and its weird
this is my favorite scene in the entire series, aside from the last season. Truly awesome
Man, 2 whole seasons of wondering, and then Nate asked what all of us wanted to ask lmaoo 2:32
After watching the whole series, I think that Brenda had a point there. Nate has been always running away, since the beggining. He is a good person, but he is way too self absorbed.
they both had good points, think that was kind of the point. Nate loved to run away and feared comittment, he'd being doing it all his life-the minute things became complicated he'd just desert people and it was all their fault on his mind, it is like he was seeking something he could never find.
She still shouldn't of cheated on him but she is a sex addict.
@@demogog3449 I don't think she was a sex addict, it was more that she used sex as a tool to beat her demons or run from her fears. So when things became too serious with Nate, she used sex with the skater kid to escape the responsibilities of an adult relationship and revert to her younger self/youth of freedom and no committment. She needed to be free as she hadn't quite matured yet, Nate was the same and so they were both unable to handle the maturity of a committed relationship. Emotional infants.
At the end though before Nate died, I felt she had finally matured when she tried to get back with him and she'd grown. She was ready for the world of adult relationships and commitment, he however rejected it as he knew he wasn't at that stage yet. Yet even in this he showed maturity in embracing the fact that he couldn't handle it.
@@shanefolan It's really hard to truly commit to anything in life if either A) You're not good at it, or B) You don't enjoy doing it. Nate suffered from either problem A or B his entire life. Well......one exception.....he was good at taking care of Maya, and enjoyed it too. He loved his daughter. But that's not enough for a full life.
Brilliant. A tv moment masterpiece
outstanding performances, i miss sfu
This show was and is still great because it is realistic.A fight like this one can happen in any household. All of the actors
We're amazing.
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3:13-3:25 perfectly encapsulates my thoughts on someone who I thought was a caring & understanding person.
I laughed when he asked ''did you fuck your brother''-it was his delivery, he asked such an outrageous question in such a casual way like it was a normal question and it was brilliant and her passive response made it even funnier. It seems to be that the last 3 seasons are where it divides the fans and somebody said to me once they think people didn't like the last 3 seasons as the humour was gone and that's a good point-the first 2 seasons had some really good dark humour like the quote I alluded to. No issue was out of bounds.
I'd never seen such a real and honest fight on tv like this before. It gripped me.
Diane and sam in cheers season 2 finale was pretty intense.
Nicole and Charlie's fight in Mariage story reminds me this one
rofl. That look on Nate's face after Brenda said "...fucking great haircut" 😂😂😂
He was so offended 😂 that’s the reason I looked for this video
I love this scene because her accent comes out the angrier she gets.
1- skyler white
2- brenda chenowith
This epic fight is second only to Tony and Carmela's on the Sopranos. Amazing acting.
This is so good. It's hard to place.
they don't make em like this anymore :((
Everything they say just stings. Brilliant acting on both ends.
One of the best scenes of acting/filming/writing...its so fucking real.
Who's here after seeing Marriage Story fight scene? It's reminds me so much of this fight!
This is more impressive and scalding than the fight in “Marriage Story”
Holy shit, I'm a huge Boards of Canada fan and I never realized that Happy Cycling was playing during this scene, it was so intense I guess I just tuned it out but damn this show always has the best music
This scene is so fucking real, it gives me chills.
4:27 the way she flinched when he tossed the ring, it felt so satisfying to see her break but also felt horrible to watch her crumble. They were bad for eachother
I agree, it was definitely the most realistic fight scene I've ever seen portrayed
I detested Brenda before this scene. After it I was able to see just how broken and confused she was.
Does not make what she did any better but at least you can see how people can make evil shit like this without really being evil.
I feel like the only sane character in this show is David, after he came to terms with his sexuality and stopped fucking every guy he could
watching brenda in the first two seasons of this show made me so pissed off like I've never been before, and I love characters who do morally questionable things! but she is just so miserable and pointlessly cruel to nate and flippant about her relationship with him that it actively aggravated me every time she cheated on him. but I do have to admit, this scene was so flawlessly executed that I can't be mad anymore. so much buildup for what is easily the most cathartic moment in any television scene I've seen
i watched 4 seasons and this scene was the best in my opinion. Emotions.
greatest show in the history of television…a sublime work of art ❤
This fight and the fight Nate had with his mother in season 3 were the two most tense moments of the entire series
My favorite Brenda scene was when she got asked to leave the department store where she was picking up on that guy whose wife was in the dressing room. The saleswoman asked her if she could help her and Brenda said "I'm looking for clothes so expensive only an idiot would buy them. Oh, here they are."
And Brenda was carrying his child when Nate finally dumped her. Man, that was cold. He should have gave up on her much sooner.
@@deb310red Her? She should've given up on *him*.
@@MarkBrinkerhoff They were both fucked up, hence why their relationship was always a perfect hell.
@@MarkBrinkerhoff no i agree that brendas the bigger problem, but nate is definitely no sweetheart when he feels even a little threatened
One of the most visceral arguments I've seen in any movie or TV show. Both Rachel Griffiths and Peter Krause are top-tier actors.
The only reason you stayed with me is because I was never really here.
When her voice squeaks saying "forced to" I felt that, I hate arguing but when my voice cracks like that shouting its because im really hurting.
One of those intende fights in a relationship where both are going for blood. Yikes
Nate was such a hypocrite; he cheated too. I felt bad for Brenda.
Brenda cheated first and much more, and nate admitted he cheated and brenda never did, whos the hypocrite here?
@@shadyomo3636 Nate; two wrongs do not make a right.
Nate, you created human being. Now, there's gonna be another person on this planet who might as well have totally fucking miserable life.
Brenda's very hurt inside.
I'm leaving my comment to stress out how greatly the music was selected as a background in SFU. And I've only realized that when I heard tunes I know. /boards of canada works just perfectly here!
The writing on this show and the actors perfect show
their best scene together. really sucks neither of them won an Emmy. both of them could have nabbed one for this scene.
Rachel griffiths did win an emmy...... for this role.
As emotionally brutal as this scene is....Nate and Brenda are so beyond on target with who they are. A beautifully broken Yin/Yang relationship.
dummytree Brenda sounds a little weird throughout the scene, but it is because she is Australian. I imagine it would be really difficult to act in a fighting/crying scene and maintain your fake American accent.
I was in a miserable marriage when this show was on. This scene hit me deep because they said everything my ex and I felt towards each other. 3 kids and a divorce later we’ve managed to “open up some honest dialogue “ about how we really feel.