Fractured Alliance: How Did The Relationship Between WW2s Allies Breakdown? | Warlords | War Stories
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Churchill v Stalin delves into the rivalry between the British and Russian leaders as they contended for influence over the future of Europe after the war. Throughout this intense struggle, Roosevelt played a behind-the-scenes role by covertly intervening to sway the final decision in a way that Churchill was unaware of. This resulted in a clandestine power struggle that took place among these three prominent leaders.
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00:00 - Intro
06:03 - HH Promo
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I'm American but I gotta feel bad for Churchill, he saw his country after 100s of years of dominance being pushed aside but had to go with it. Britain "won" the war but lost in the long term and there really wasn't a way around it.
America, this is wonderful, and now Britain, where is the money and antiquities that you stole, and the thief cut off his hand?
...AT THE END OF WW2, BRITAIN WAS VICTORIOUS- AND PRACTICALLY BROKE!!!
@@daleburrell6273 No, she survived thanks to America
@@user-cg2tw8pw7j ...THAT'S NOT THE POINT- AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
I would have loved to see Britain get beaten by evil Nazis. One evil monster beating another evil monster
FYI ...giving Churchill a shorter chair in Tehran speaks volumes ... and Stalin dropped the sword ... he tilted it out of the scabbard ... his sidekick was blameless
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I love World War Two history and have studied and watched many stories of the war but never did I consider the political differences between the three. This is just so fascinating to me. So much so that I downloaded the HH app to my phone and subscribed. I love the way this and many of their videos are produced and directed. I didn’t get the free trial because (I assume) the free offer required an annual subscription but i could only do a month to month but I’m already three documentaries in and living it! Mahalo to HH for this video and many others. Aloha from Hawai’i.
Same here, Even though I'm somewhat past this era I still learn new things about the war since after all it was the event that defined human history
@@CrossOfBayonne RIGHT?!! I just learned the other day from Mark Felton’s video that Goering tried to crash King George VI’s coronation. I didn’t know that and I thought I know a lot about WW2. That guy was just as delusional as Hess! 🤣🤣🤣
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"For Stalin to play the game" yeah that went well. It seems whilst the American political elite saw the conflict through rose tinted glasses Winston Churchill and many American commanders realised that Stalin would become the real enemy. Which, strangely enough, came to pass.
I agree, but I think it was FDR thinking he could deal with "Uncle Joe" as he called him. By Yalta I think FDR had an Uh-oh moment. Should of had that moment in Tehran. Unfortunately, can't go back to change it. It is what it is, I reckon. Cheers from Tennessee
Stalin play double game all along.
America is the least slave I have ever seen
Stalin was de facto a fascist.black hundred (russia fascist group in tsar era)churchill was correct all along.soviet at the time of it birth already consider the capitalist world specially uk as a enemy .
@@richardque4952 Ya sure.
And the capitalist world was holy cow.
Spreading there wisdom in Asia,africa,South and North America for last 500years.
Am I correct?
Great.. From the beginning to the end of WW2 everything Churchill had predicted happened with each single detail
I think Churchill was on to something and Patton felt the same way. Things would have been a lot different now.
Looks like he's looking for the farmer to kill him
If you referring to Patton’s “we defeated the wrong enemy” sentiment Churchill is not aligned. No one was more anti Germany, and yes, pro-Soviet after 1940 than Churchill. This outburst was just him coming to terms with the fact that even though he’s on the winning side he’s the junior partner to Roosevelt and Stalin
@@staffsgt.sullivan3833 I think you might be wrong about that but I could be incorrect aswell.
...WE WILL NEVER KNOW-!
@@staffsgt.sullivan3833 Incorrect.
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Really fascinating story. Excellent narration too.
It is a wonderful historical coverage about that political matter, thanks ( war stories) channel for sharing....Nazism was a vast threat to USSR ,fascism was a great threat to British & Japanese empire was a serious threat to USA 🇺🇸...for that prioritize of each one's of them differentiate. it was a main suspicious backgrounder amongst Roosevelt, Churchill & Stalin.
Aren't the gangs threatening America, or are American citizens not important?
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"Germany is finished, though it may take time to clean up the mess. The real problem is Russians, I cant get Americans to see it"... Aged really well
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Can't say I was aware of all this happening behind the scenes form any war documentary I've seen before. I must say that FDR should have left things in Europe be as they would be after the war. America says they "don't like to interfere" in world politics right before they get in make a mess of things. Europe has been doing that on their own for centuries.
Good one i agree
I’d like to offer you a consideration- American politicians like to be in everyone’s business. From my experience and on a personal level, I believe most Americans prefer to leave other regions of the world alone. I know many people are not happy about our involvement in Iraq and Ukraine. I ask that you consider the actions of our government do not always match the will of the common people.
Really? So much for democracy then.
I mean you claim to have gun rights to use when the government doesn't reflect the will of the people... but don't use them... so by your voting and not taking up arms, it is the will of the people.
@@ACF1901 I never made that claim. A few extremists does not equate to the majority.
@@ACF1901 I am not a violent/fighting type of person. I believe in using words and my voice to make a difference. And education.
One of your better videos. Thanks.
Please read V.Suvorov The Icebraker for better understanding the role and the game of USSR and Stalin
Great Documentary. I realize it is about the personal relationship of those in top positions of power. However, I think when you reference what the British and Americans did with things like the D-Day or Italian Campaigns, you could at least acknowledge other countries such as Canada. Perhaps, by saying something like the British and her Commonwealth nations. Since that, it was the attrition of the resources from countries like Canada that kept Britain in the fight and gave the Americans the time to stay out of it. Just a thought.
Canada did far more for Britian and the war than the USA.
Oh how right Churchill was about Russian again. If only Roosevelt listen to him.
I am surprised that Roosevelt (FDR) wasn't more suspicious of Stalin. He (FDR) greatly admired Theodore Roosevelt who had suspicions about both Russia and Japan after settling the Japanese-Russian War.
The late-August 1943 Allies meeting did NOT ''happen in Quebec''.
The location was Quebec City, Province of Quebec, Dominion of Canada.
tyvm for the quality upload, eh 🤟🇨🇦
No one cares. It’s not even a real country anyway.
Love this series
No wonder my grandmother and mother hated FDR and Truman for selling out eastern Europe.
They should have listened to Churchill. He knew it was a moral failure to protect the eastern block. Just like he knew it was a moral failure to allow the soviets to get to Berlin first.
...WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST THAT FDR AND TRUMAN SHOULD HAVE DONE ABOUT EASTERN EUROPE?!!
GENERAL PATTON'S IDEA WAS TO 1- POINT OUT TO RUSSIANS WHERE THEIR BORDER WAS, 2- GIVE THE RUSSIANS A LIMITED TIME TO GET BACK IT, AND 3- IF NECESSARY, FORCE THE RUSSIANS OUT OF EASTERN EUROPE!!!
UNFORTUNATELY, GENERAL PATTON WAS ONLY ONE PERSON- AND HE ENDED UP DEAD...(!)
selling out eastern Europe? up to 70 million peopel died in WW2 the combatants weren't up to another round. Perhaps you and some friends could go over and get things sorted. Right now arm yourself and head to the Ukraine
@@bigwoody4704 Well I have been working in eastern Europe since 1980s including Ukraine and I have to say I am disgusted by the behavior of the former Wars1aw Pact countries since the unique opportunities of post Cold War times. Their misery is in part self imposed
Love Sir Winston.
Churchill was wise enough to know Stalin was a liar
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Yay, one I haven't seen ..
As a china born living in Taiwan , I studied world war history and see how those western political leaders to divid the post war geo political arrangement into two parts as Cold War came after 1946 onward ….
I think according to Russian tradition, giving someone a sword is an invite to war and not an invite to become allies. Maybe that's why the sword was dropped.
Are you sure ? First time I heard about it !
A well prepared lesson for a “student” like me!
Awww!! I wasn't even close...lol
It would appear that the Italian campaign was a blind spot for Winston? Or did he think Tito was going to just join up and march to GB tune?
That damn cigar lighting up all across ww2
So famous for his cigar , that you can actually buy the cigars named after him which are a special size
@2:20 - “the PM says he will go all out for Russia. I said for him, the arch anti-communist, this was bowing down in the house of Rimmon…” Anyone know where that phrase came from? I know it means to pay lip service to an unacceptable principle but where did it come from?
I looked it up. From what I can tell it refers to a verse in the old testament 2 kings 5:18. "In this thing the LORD pardon your servant, that when my master goes into the house of Rimmon to worship there". Rimmon being a Syrian deity and Naaman newly converted to the God of Israel would be worshipping a false god.
This version is edited, and new post (3 months ago) I still vaguely remember the old version of this video. Maybe the change is because Europe is now on alert for war?
lots of new clips were inserted and old clips were lost (including story), as I recall. But it doesn't matter, I just see this as a entertaining in my spare time.
@War Stories: Who push you to change it :D just kidding.
Correction. The British had no roll in the invasion of Southern France. They favored throwing more men and resources into the Italian campaign. It was American and Free French forces that carried out Operation Dragoon.
Algeria and Tunisia ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
@@user-cg2tw8pw7j
That was North Africa, not Southern France. Two totally different theaters and campaigns.
Role
Churchill was right all the time, while Rosevelt did fatal bad decisions with Stalin, which in the post war led to the Cold war, Russian occuptation on the whole eastern Europe.
Churchill known at early stage that Stalin is not an allied to be trusted, while Rosevelt was a naive stupid President.
They should never had supported Russia with military equipment through Murmansk or others.
General Patton was also agains Stalin, and wanted to continue the war against Russia, with the help of Europe, Im sure at that time it had been the correct way to do it while they really could have beaten the Russians, but they let this opportunity slip through the fingers.
And today we are living in the fear of Nuclear war( Putin another Stalin) thanks to many short sighted Presidents and Politicians.
Thanks for a splendid channel!!!
America is stupid
@robertoughton61
Yes that’s correct , even if I typed Europe, but ofcourse included Germany
...THE RUSSIANS WERE NEVER OUR "FRIENDS"- THE ONLY REASON THAT THE RUSSIANS WERE FIGHTING ON OUR SIDE DURING WW2- WAS BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS HATED THE NAZIS MORE THAN THEY HATED US- AND ONCE THE WAR WAS OVER, AND THE RUSSIANS DIDN'T NEED US ANYMORE- WE FOUND OUT JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE RUSSIANS REALLY THOUGHT OF US!!!
...THE AMERICANS WHO WERE FIGHTING IN KOREA- DAM SURE FOUND OUT!!!
I agree with you 💯
Show some respect to FDR, one of the greats of our nation, he led the foundation for American dominance.
Churchill wanted Greece for Britain
Because he knew it would do better if kept out of the communist influence.
Well it didnt help that FDR to put it as generously as I can was way out of his depth.
there is no such thing as WW2 allies. its actually quiet the reverse - how does these enemies of one another get into alliance? after WW2, business as usual
Churchill
Was smart.
48:50 The democratic "game".
And it's still being played on the Dnieper. 🤠
Find it kinda weird that Roosevelt wanted France and British to get rid of their colony, but he was all for Russia taking most of Europe. It makes no sense to me.
He believes both america and russia can dethrone the old imperialism with thinking that Stalin wouldnt be a brute that will turn the eastern europe into totalitarian regimes under his and ussr.
Roosevelt's disdain for the british empire, imperialism and Churchill are the reasons why he prefers Stalin. He made a terrible mistake.
so-called quarrel between allies is theater, performance and show
Should of listen to Churchill and also General Patton
FDR was just a fool for Stalin . He fell for him hook, line, and sinker !
and what do you suggest FDR could have done? There was no scenario where Britain and the US could have dislodged the Russians from Raster Europe after they had taken it by force. None.
@@lesteraponte5734 not helping the Russians in thru lend lease would have been a good idea .
@@augustuswayne9676 in which case the Germans would’ve most likely gotten through to the oil reserves past Stalingrad or Kursk (which was a main reason Germany attacked the USSR) and the war would have gone on longer and more lives would’ve been lost due to Germany’s increased capability to wage war
No
Sad Churchill was not electec after war
While churchill was essential for the war, he is terrible when it comes to peaceful times. Thats why he wasnt elected while his other opponent did great policies and things at that time
35:59... WOW!
Sharing a sandwich together like a couple school mates ...
As terrible as Stalin was his army did most of the heavy fighting. I’m not sure the war could have even been won without the soviets. Would be interesting if the us and British could have beat Germany at full strength on there own.
Honestly they can but it would take longer.
The American and British empire already outnumbered the zis while the americans were busy with the japanese.
I would aproximately assume the war would have ended in 1947 or 1948
America alone could have done it but it would have taken much longer........with the British Empire by it side it goes quicker but it will stick take a long time without the soviets tying up most of the german war machine......the british alone have no chance they can stave off an invasion of the british isles but that's about it aside from raids and some naval battles here and there but on land the germans would be dominate
@@CAM8689 Without Britain as a staging area of the attack and the Eastern front with Russia it would have been about as difficult as attacking mainland America would have been for the Nazis.
There was never an official alliance, it was 3 empires that wanted to expand,
FDR once again showing his true colors trusting Stalin more than Churchill.
Jesus no one trusts Britain
The Soviets, not the British, did most of the fighting. Stalin's demands were justifiable. If you need help to preserve your dominance, then you should lose it
Sad Stalin sent Molotov wife to gulag
The Canadians fought in Italy, France, Holland and Belgium along with free Poles, not just the American's and British. Get your facts straight
As a Canadian, we are rarely acknowledged.
British empire bruh
@@MikeYm98875 Canada is its own country, but was a member of the Commonwealth. Everyone forgets the Indian's, Australian's
and New Zealanders fought in WW2
@@777poco didn't they fight through the British empire tho? I'm not sure
@@MikeYm98875 WW1 not WW2
Got to. Two words in written English.😢
1!
Looks like Stalin got a faux hawk in the thumbnail lol
Who's doing these American accents? It sounds comical lol
All the WW2 powers were evil empires. Yes, all. Which evil empires do you want to survive?
Or do some deeper digger and see that the winners of wars write the history books, so maybe the good side didn't win in this case and you have been subjected to a lot of propaganda to make the other side seem pure evil.
How so?
other than segregation/racism i don’t see anything wrong with america of the time… no government is good but they were certainly the best out of all.
@@kromsukit True nations are based on race, it's why asians don't have open immigration policies. And it's why segregation in america was a sensible policy, n3groes were a separate nation.
@@kromsukitnative American genocide...America got ugly during the 60s and so forth with all the destabilizing
A lot of innocent life dem boy responce for a war over jah land
More criticisim of life; barf!
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Did Stalin speak English?
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Churchill was correct ironically enough the Soviets would administer territory to be their Iron Curtain
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I believe the Baltic and ukeran belong to Russia, from ww1 to staling
I’m 30 years old and just now finding out there was no fighting on the western front for almost 2 years…..if I was Russia I wouldn’t trust em either. That’s crazy since we are taught that we won the war.
God what did they teach you in school, we were fighting all over Africa and Italy before we were ready.
The US and the British Empire were on the wrong side.
No
@@caiolima5016 Yes.
@@MarkHarrison733 no
@@caiolima5016 The only threat was from Communism.
@@MarkHarrison733 fds
To call Roosevelt deceitful is an understatement! Compare it to Hillary….
...I DON'T THINK FDR WAS EVIL- THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE!!!
@@daleburrell6273 To each his own…
Even at his worst FDR had more integrity and care of the USA than every single person in office currently. Combine them together and you wouldn't find a drop of what fdr had
@@Godzilla00X ...FDR WAS BAD ENOUGH-!!!
How about FIDELITY…?
U.S should've helped Germany & Japan. They would've had a easier time today. The U.S is mostly German bloodlines!
Why didn't they do that ?
No
After Pearl Harbor that was never a possibility.