Jig Square Launch - Tables Saw Sleds Faster and Easier!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • This is Jonathan’s launch video for this tool:
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    I’d definitely encourage you to watch that video, he going into a lot more detail than I did, he also has links to the product sale page.
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  • @katzmosestools
    @katzmosestools 3 месяца назад +42

    Your method for adjusting the miter saw was so much better than mine! Thanks Andy!

    • @UpcycleFab
      @UpcycleFab 3 месяца назад +7

      I just watched BOTH Videos back to back and I’m super excited that I can now make a zero clearance insert for my miter saw, get it square and you both just gave me a reason to delay buying an expensive Tablesaw. I can use my Dewalt for a little longer till I can afford the SawStop…lol. Great seeing you both collaborating and supporting each other!

  • @inspiringbuilds
    @inspiringbuilds 3 месяца назад +2

    Much simpler than the 5 cut method and dead accurate the first try. Great tool and video! 👍

  • @garyvaiskauckas8463
    @garyvaiskauckas8463 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow! That makes it easy. Crosscut Sled, Bandsaw Sled, Incra Miter Sled, Miter Saw 90 degrees, etc. I just ordered one.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 3 месяца назад +1

    That's brilliant! 😃
    Thanks, Andrew!!!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @bushman4124
    @bushman4124 3 месяца назад +1

    you guys making awesome tools and jigs

  • @user-wg7dx7er8w
    @user-wg7dx7er8w 3 месяца назад +2

    Great idea, from a very old dude, I thought I seen it all,

  • @sportsman1824
    @sportsman1824 3 месяца назад +1

    Well thought out as usual!

  • @pctatc66
    @pctatc66 3 месяца назад +2

    Top Flight Jig right there. A shame you didnt come up with it Andy! Maybe you can figure out how to stick magnets on it! lol

  • @makerspace533
    @makerspace533 3 месяца назад +5

    I think the biggest mistake made when making sleds is making sure the material for the back fence is absolutely flat and will stay that way.

  • @grantman1148
    @grantman1148 2 месяца назад

    I bought mine the day Jonathan launched it. Then I got rotator cuff surgery so it'll have to wait a couple of months to use it. Haha!

  • @tacticalskiffs8134
    @tacticalskiffs8134 Месяц назад +1

    If you can't find one, like you live in Mombasa, or Canada, just run the sled base (ply and two runners) through the saw cutting the ply base in half. Then choose one side and align the fence with a square to the side of the kerf. If people think that won't work, I don't know why there is such a market in Woodpecker squares... Once you have one runner, ply base and fence aligned the second half of the base, (ply and one runner) doesn't have anywhere else to go other than perfect.

  • @soylentgreen326
    @soylentgreen326 3 месяца назад

    Ha ha the last bit ❤ that’s funny 🎉

  • @user-kv1ns5te2r
    @user-kv1ns5te2r 2 месяца назад +1

    Great tool but very expensive for a one-off sled.

  • @Paul_Burns
    @Paul_Burns 3 месяца назад +1

    The five cut method works by compounding your sled's error four times as you rotate your test piece clockwise. If you rotate counterclockwise, as you did in the video, you get no compounding effect. You got a great result, but it was not illustrated by the five cut method.

  • @Benwinch07
    @Benwinch07 3 месяца назад

    Question: Your miter saw squaring method looks great, but I'm assuming as the zero clearance kerf gets damaged/ widened over time, that wont be a good reference surface anymore. is that a concern?

  • @joedance14
    @joedance14 Месяц назад

    Interesting tool, but expensive.
    Please tell me what I am seeing at 4:12, with regard to the outfeed table. To my old eyes, the outfeed table appears to be a basic traditional workbench, somehow elevated. But I cannot make out exactly what is happening.

  • @paulruud5804
    @paulruud5804 3 месяца назад

    It seems to me that the same result can be accomplished with a square on the side of the saw blade. That's what I use and it works very, very well.

    • @WasimBarri
      @WasimBarri 2 месяца назад

      Yes provided your blade is 100% parallel to the slots.

  • @sewob147
    @sewob147 3 месяца назад +3

    An expensive jig to build a sled most of us only ever do once!

  • @geoffbaker2632
    @geoffbaker2632 3 месяца назад +1

    Is there a link to purchase the Jig Square?

  • @williamrichards792
    @williamrichards792 3 месяца назад +1

    FYI…6 to 10 weeks for shipment

    • @AndrewKleinWW
      @AndrewKleinWW  3 месяца назад

      Yes, initial batch sold out I understand

  • @DavisMakers-ki6ij
    @DavisMakers-ki6ij 3 месяца назад +1

    I can see the relevance but I’m not waiting for another presale. Not when I can do it cheaper. 8 to 12. Weeks was a little to much. If you believe in the product make the investment. That is all

  • @essexbarnworkshop8578
    @essexbarnworkshop8578 3 месяца назад

    My understanding was that you need the jig to be square to the blade, not the groove. Is that not the case? If your blade is out then this tool, or indeed any method of adjusting the fence to the groove, won't get you a 90% cut. Only referencing from the blade will do that surely?

    • @AndrewKleinWW
      @AndrewKleinWW  3 месяца назад +3

      Definitely not the case, you need it square to the groove first. Blade should be square to the groove also but if it’s off slightly that won’t affect the 90 degree precision of the sled.

  • @CarlosGarcia-fi4yu
    @CarlosGarcia-fi4yu 3 месяца назад

    And you're talking about a $180.00 USD which is quite too expensive for such a piece of equipment.

  • @WasimBarri
    @WasimBarri 3 месяца назад +3

    That gadget isn't any better than simply putting a thin long strip of plywood into the kerf held tight against one edge with shims, if necessary and using an accurate framing square to reference off that strip. I've been doing it that way for years and testing with the 5 cut method.

    • @daniel-vn4ql
      @daniel-vn4ql 3 месяца назад

      will have to look into this method. the gadget is extremely expensive as well.

  • @psychedelicguitarartbyjima3850
    @psychedelicguitarartbyjima3850 3 месяца назад

  • @dantebbe
    @dantebbe 3 месяца назад +1

    Noob question: why not use a speed square?

  • @CarlYota
    @CarlYota 3 месяца назад

    It’s super cool and I love JKM and have bought thier stuff in the past to support them. I’m just not at the point where I’m making enough sleds to justify buying a sled making tool

  • @samuelwiltzius
    @samuelwiltzius 3 месяца назад +1

    Interesting but the price rules it out in my mind - and a thin kerf of wood and a machine square does the same and the machine square is arguably much more versatile for machine set ups on a weekly basis vs this tool on a yearly or multiple year basis… of coarse price vs how often used is how I’m looking at it.

  • @erikcramer
    @erikcramer 3 месяца назад

    Your first and last link are broken ;)

  • @robertwinkel9209
    @robertwinkel9209 3 месяца назад

    I must be stupid. I have no idea what just happened

  • @originalfujimonster
    @originalfujimonster 3 месяца назад +3

    It’s nice but not $139 nice. I’ll continue to use a speed square or wait for the Temu knockoffs for $19.99 to show up

    • @70newlife
      @70newlife 3 месяца назад

      I vote for temu

  • @BrenQ99
    @BrenQ99 3 месяца назад +1

    I have 2 tools that are aluminum and 90 degrees. They each cost a fraction of this. I hope you got yours for free.

    • @JDeWittDIY
      @JDeWittDIY 3 месяца назад +2

      Can't get the accuracy you need for a sled that way.

  • @marknkatz
    @marknkatz 3 месяца назад +1

    Maybe I'm missing something but where's the magnet? 😁

  • @twweiland9672
    @twweiland9672 3 месяца назад +2

    This thing costs almost $200 and it's basically a single use item. At that price, they should rent it out for a day

    • @SuperiorEtchworx
      @SuperiorEtchworx 3 месяца назад +1

      Its not really single use as it's great for squaring up your mitre saw every time you vary from 90

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools 3 месяца назад +7

      it is 139.99 with FREE shipping so like $125 after we cover the $15 dollar shipping. Precision on the level of a Starrett Square is not cheap to manufacture.

  • @azza1793
    @azza1793 3 месяца назад +2

    £145 for this to save spending a little time doing 5 cut method wow some people seem to have endless money to throw away on new shiny things

  • @robslifting4life
    @robslifting4life 3 месяца назад

    $150 prob

    • @azza1793
      @azza1793 3 месяца назад

      £145 in the UK

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools 3 месяца назад

      $139 with free shipping so $125

  • @justanotherchkn
    @justanotherchkn 3 месяца назад

    It’s not as accurate as just spending 15 mins doing the 5 cut method. For the cost it’s not worth it.

  • @SirBenJamin_
    @SirBenJamin_ 3 месяца назад +3

    It's pretty easy to make a sled that is bang on accurate on day 1 without this jig. The problem is that the accuracy degrades over time due to many variables, e.g wood movement, widening of the kerf etc etc ... which this jig won't help with. The assumption is that the sides of the kerf will remain perfectly parallel ... which is very unlikely.

    • @instantsiv
      @instantsiv 3 месяца назад +4

      My sled is 5+ years old. I used hdpe runners and plywood fence. The fence is square to the blade. The kerf is widened but that is easily adjusted by moving the workpiece by 1/32 or so.
      To fix the kerf issue is not hard. Glue a strip of wood in the kerf and recut the kerf.

    • @SirBenJamin_
      @SirBenJamin_ 3 месяца назад

      @instantsiv not really the point is it?

    • @instantsiv
      @instantsiv 3 месяца назад +2

      @@SirBenJamin_ You said the accuracy degrades over time. The most important aspect is that the fence stays square to the blade. My sled does not have that problem. The other issue you brought up is the kerf widening. I’ve been able to work around that issue with no problem and plan to fill and recut the kerf later, so it’s fixable.

    • @SirBenJamin_
      @SirBenJamin_ 3 месяца назад

      @@instantsiv I'm taking about the jig, not how to fix a widening kerf. If you're talking about fixing the widened kerf JUST so you can use the jig, it makes it even less useful. The kerf not remaining accurate doesn't matter for general woodwork, it only matters for THIS jig. .. in other words, this jig depends on variables that wouldn't normally be an issue.

    • @instantsiv
      @instantsiv 3 месяца назад

      @@SirBenJamin_ They should do a test on an old widened kerf to see if it's perfectly parallel.

  • @acerjuglans383
    @acerjuglans383 3 месяца назад +1

    There's a 3 cut method which eliminates any math, and is quicker, and literally just as reliable as the 5 cut.
    Just saying.