Kay meets...Joy Division's Peter Hook as he speaks about his depression

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2018
  • Co-founder of Joy Division and New Order Peter Hook tells Kay Burley about his troubled marriage with Caroline Aherne.
    He also spoke of the changes to people talking about mental on how 'people speak about it better'.
    The guitarist is known for his album Movement with New Order.
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Комментарии • 138

  • @tjchesney4997
    @tjchesney4997 4 года назад +35

    He's such a humble man. I loved this interview

    • @Dangerman5
      @Dangerman5 3 месяца назад

      Yeah but I can imagine he is awkward to deal with sometimes

  • @fac443
    @fac443 5 лет назад +47

    I really like Peter. He's such a great guy.

  • @The.Last.Guitar.Hero.
    @The.Last.Guitar.Hero. 5 лет назад +97

    glad that hooky said that he was a victim of domestic abuse as a man. it's not a one way street.

    • @alexjewell2351
      @alexjewell2351 4 года назад +5

      @SgtBaker16 So easy when the other person is dead. I'd love to think he isn't lying, but who knows with the shallowness of celebrity.

    • @affablecamel153
      @affablecamel153 3 года назад +12

      I don't know if he's lying or not but think what he has to gain from lying? The reaction has been largely unsympathetic and people are even saying he's less of a man for his allegations which is very common when men come forward about domestic abuse. The only other reason I can think of is pure spite because of how their relationship ended maybe, but he doesn't seem like a spiteful unhappy person.

  • @smujiodome
    @smujiodome 5 лет назад +15

    What a great bloke. Such a real human being.

  • @jafarjaffery4859
    @jafarjaffery4859 2 года назад +7

    I'm thankful for the catalog of work that's from Peter Hook, and just as much so from his interviews. If I didn't know who he was watching this interview, I'd have never guessed he was one of the greatest bassists of all time -- guy is so down to earth. The interviewer did a great job as well.

  • @davideveson3041
    @davideveson3041 5 лет назад +13

    Ive always loved his bass playing technique.

  • @alternatingbitmusic
    @alternatingbitmusic 2 года назад

    There's a lot of deep content here... very valuable and much more than just shoulder patting about the music. Excellent interview.

  • @robharper1035
    @robharper1035 5 лет назад +13

    Great honesty from a legend

  • @plunder23
    @plunder23 5 лет назад +19

    Ahhh even Hooky suffered in silence im glad he can now say how difficult things were

  • @PeterDixonMedia
    @PeterDixonMedia 4 года назад +2

    Legend. Why am I only seeing this now and it was take a couple years ago. Legend muso. Legend human. Battling life and struggles with a heroic get on with it attitude but not suppress or hide. He’s real. As is ‘his’ music.

  • @Greggorious123
    @Greggorious123 5 лет назад +65

    If it was Peter Hook who was abusive to Caroline, he'd be all over the newspapers as a villain. Women get away with domestic abuse though cos it's not seen as serious.

    • @euan7166
      @euan7166 3 года назад

      Men who are physically abused by women almost always deserve scorn.

    • @Pointblankmos
      @Pointblankmos 2 года назад +5

      @@euan7166 how does it feel being a wet fart of a human

    • @Thunderchild-gz4gc
      @Thunderchild-gz4gc 2 года назад

      He waited until she died to say anything.

    • @Greggorious123
      @Greggorious123 2 года назад

      @@Thunderchild-gz4gc And? Many women do the same.

    • @vermilliongecko
      @vermilliongecko Год назад +1

      It wasn't all over the papers because he didn't tell anyone until after she died.

  • @DIYTFY
    @DIYTFY 4 года назад

    Fantastic Interview!!!!

  • @floralpattern1
    @floralpattern1 3 года назад +1

    Great words from this man

  • @littlejohnnyturtle8770
    @littlejohnnyturtle8770 2 года назад +11

    Suffering from depression is a major issue for millions. Talking about it with Kay Burley doesn't help.

    • @BarbieChaite
      @BarbieChaite Год назад

      I agree. Her stupid questions are depressing.

    • @user-SBURCHILL
      @user-SBURCHILL 10 месяцев назад

      TV therapy....so sincere...call it mid life crisis...it has all the symptoms....rock star becomes agony aunt...full story on graveyard slot mid afternoon TV

  • @1conor
    @1conor 4 года назад +13

    "Ian Curtis, remind us of what happened to him" jesus kay

    • @euan7166
      @euan7166 3 года назад +4

      It's a normie channel, most viewers wouldn't know/remember what happened. As usual with her, it was putting her foot in it, rather than spite.

    • @PooperScooperTrooper
      @PooperScooperTrooper 2 года назад +1

      @@euan7166 Fair point...but still, it irked me too

    • @conorsmith8551
      @conorsmith8551 11 месяцев назад

      “Kurt Cobain.. remind us what happened to him”

  • @michaelwilson2340
    @michaelwilson2340 5 лет назад +7

    Thanks to Jaco Pastorius and Peter Hook the bass was given the dignity it deserves.

    • @MrHoefnix
      @MrHoefnix 2 года назад +3

      That being said, I sure don’t want to disqualify the capabilities and merits of bass players like J J Brunel, Chris Squire, Larry Graham, John Entwistle, Suzi Quatro, James Jamerson, Stanley Clarke, Carol Kaye etc.

    • @conorsmith8551
      @conorsmith8551 11 месяцев назад

      And flea

  • @tylork8025
    @tylork8025 5 лет назад +10

    I've had my share of depression. No one really wants death. But I've still tried many times. Just loneliness and the perception of my future always seems to be set in a murky sad tragedy. And ending things before it takes place seems to be the right thing to do. It's an easy that way. I just hope I keep having a press forward additude.

  • @markrigg6623
    @markrigg6623 2 года назад +4

    Nice guy, showing the classic traits of the wisdom that comes with age.

  • @richardneale246
    @richardneale246 10 месяцев назад +1

    Such a great bloke.

  • @riobabic8960
    @riobabic8960 Год назад +4

    Seems like a genuine straight up guy ! I think it must be tough sometimes to live in a place that has lots of gloomy weather like the UK , Ireland and Northern Europe ! When I travel to Cuba my mood changes for the positive instantly and people I meet there on holiday from England say the same thing !

    • @VincentRE79
      @VincentRE79 Год назад

      A change of scenery definitely helps shake depression.

  • @Burgmannn
    @Burgmannn 3 года назад +3

    Top man. This is what growth looks like.

  • @michaelwall8417
    @michaelwall8417 5 лет назад +95

    Depression and Joy Division come hand in hand

    • @theohyeahkid8500
      @theohyeahkid8500 4 года назад +1

      Like bread and butter unfortunately, an incredible band with some incredible music :( Ian will love on in our hearts and his music for generations to come.

    • @nervesinapattern7261
      @nervesinapattern7261 4 года назад +3

      TheOhYeahKid absolutely, music today won’t stand the test of time like joy division.

    • @jawknee4088
      @jawknee4088 3 года назад +1

      ​@@nervesinapattern7261 it's incredible how well their stuff aged. the one thing about joy division that will always trouble me though... is that there was no proper recording of "Ceremony"... there exists only three recorded versions, and they're all botched and fucked up. (New Order's version of Ceremony is pretty good though, perhaps that will suffice...)

    • @nervesinapattern7261
      @nervesinapattern7261 3 года назад +1

      Jonathan I know! It bothers me a lot that they aren’t 100% sure of what ceremony’s lyrics are. Weirdly enough I discovered Joy division when I heard Radiohead do a cover on ceremony and the song stuck with me.

    • @arevans5986
      @arevans5986 10 месяцев назад +2

      Disagree: Joy Division is an escape from depression.

  • @VinylCollectorJames
    @VinylCollectorJames 5 лет назад +50

    This interviewer should be sacked. She knew NOTHING about his music going into it, was rude, interrupted, dismissive and pushy. Hate her guts

  • @rampageclover9788
    @rampageclover9788 2 года назад

    Amazing individual

  • @mcdonaldgeraldmark
    @mcdonaldgeraldmark 2 года назад +1

    Legend. Gentleman.

  • @cappaculla
    @cappaculla 4 года назад +3

    To speak out as he did and hold back from thumping that woman, respect.

  • @ChubbyChecker182
    @ChubbyChecker182 Год назад +2

    Kay Burley is very hreavy handed, but Peter was fascinating in this interview

  • @adamturner1563
    @adamturner1563 5 лет назад +9

    Without depression, there would not be a joy division or a new order! ...

  • @MarkSmith-tp6zc
    @MarkSmith-tp6zc 2 года назад +5

    Subtle as a house brick that Burley. Thanks Hooky good insights

  • @77Spionkop
    @77Spionkop 2 года назад

    Top guy Peter.

  •  4 года назад +1

    Hooky is a great guy👍

  • @markwright7021
    @markwright7021 Год назад

    💗

  • @dancewithme2278
    @dancewithme2278 5 лет назад +5

    I'm 20, never had a girlfriend, never even been kissed. Never had a true friend, I've been drinking to numb the pain. I've been trying to find a job should I end it all?

    • @a1974h
      @a1974h 5 лет назад +11

      Nah mate. Hang in there.

    • @becomingsmith5715
      @becomingsmith5715 4 года назад +1

      Nope. It's a challenge but its worth it to keep going.

    • @richardjames5843
      @richardjames5843 4 года назад +2

      Got nothing to lose mate, might aswell take a risk and go for it!

    • @raymondbamford7061
      @raymondbamford7061 3 года назад +2

      "Don't pray for an easy life,pray for the strength to endure a difficult one"

    • @BlowinFree
      @BlowinFree 3 года назад +2

      @@raymondbamford7061 wow that’s great 🙏🏻☺️

  • @maricallo6143
    @maricallo6143 3 года назад +1

    Not being familiar with the actual Kay in question , I thought Carol Kaye had actually met Peter Hook and they filmed it...silly me...as one pick wielder to another, both with some unorthodox approach to bass playing = a meet made in heaven.

  • @tattooedfagin
    @tattooedfagin 5 лет назад +52

    Can't stand Burley's interview technique, abrupt & seriously rude & here again, she's digging up 'dirt' on someone unable to answer back. Hooky's marriage breakdown is well known, why bring it up yet again.

    • @tattooedfagin
      @tattooedfagin 5 лет назад +3

      It's Kay Burley, she's a pro so would have done her homework, she knew full well what the trigger was but directed the questioning into making Caroline Aherne appear a nut job, could have nipped it in the bud but she kept poking for more 'dirt'. Regardless of what issues Aherne & the marriage may have had it's poor taste to go over it yet again, especially as Aherne's no longer with us. Burley's a Pitbull & that's being polite.

    • @711honved
      @711honved 5 лет назад +8

      She cuts his answers short & talks across him frequently. A classic sign where an interviewer believes they are more important than the interviewee.

    • @dazdavison1
      @dazdavison1 5 лет назад +2

      She horrible.

    • @robharper1035
      @robharper1035 5 лет назад +4

      Bloody hell. Caroline abused Hooky lets not forget that and he had the courage to speak about it. He never slagged off Caroline nor did Kay. It was dealt with honesty and respect and Hooky claimed clearly they were BOTH ill.

    • @markrigg6623
      @markrigg6623 2 года назад +1

      She's not the greatest but Peter managed to react positively and still we ended up with an Insightful interview. Seems like a cool dude.

  • @DiRtYLaWs2007
    @DiRtYLaWs2007 5 лет назад +41

    I’m torn about this. On one hand it is admirable to be so open and honest about men’s depression but on the other, he agrees to do this on Sky News and with Kay Burley, of ALL people. She’s utterly vile, unsympathetic,self obsessed and incompetent in speaking about such issues.

    • @vincentdeguard4726
      @vincentdeguard4726 5 лет назад +3

      ...agreed

    • @chonnerone2964
      @chonnerone2964 5 лет назад +3

      Spot on!

    • @bryankinney1
      @bryankinney1 5 лет назад

      I could tell just by looking at her.

    • @mysynthsandstuff6519
      @mysynthsandstuff6519 4 года назад

      Its his choice and I avoid Sky and especially Burley at all costs so can completely relate to the OP’s comment. This is the first time I’ve watched any Sky TV in many years. I wouldn’t watch if it wasn’t for him being on it. And really... what do Sky care. They thrive on creating fear and fear causes depression.

    • @jeleth
      @jeleth 4 года назад +1

      the way she cuts him off when he's about to finish a sentence pisses me off

  • @timjones9583
    @timjones9583 3 года назад +3

    She keeps talking over him!

  • @alexjewell2351
    @alexjewell2351 4 года назад

    Nowt like striking when the irons hot. There's always two sides to eveything.

  • @eoliver437
    @eoliver437 5 лет назад +6

    Kay B missed out on the empathy gene?

  • @dirkbogarde44
    @dirkbogarde44 5 лет назад +12

    Kay Burley..........hopeless.

  • @sobrevalorado
    @sobrevalorado 4 года назад

    The guitarist??????

  • @robtolley
    @robtolley 5 лет назад

    There’s no sound

  • @bigmoneysteppa
    @bigmoneysteppa 5 лет назад +14

    Team back up with bernie and make some bangers

    • @whiiteshirt7192
      @whiiteshirt7192 5 лет назад +7

      Bernard or Barney. But not Bernie.

    • @lorrainerutter3802
      @lorrainerutter3802 Месяц назад

      Definitely not Bernie....not sure they will ever kiss and make up

  • @REVVINGRODNEY
    @REVVINGRODNEY 5 лет назад +5

    Seen this, clicked on it started to enjoy it then seen what avenue she was going down with her questioning... A joke... very poor interviewing skills

    • @vincentdeguard4726
      @vincentdeguard4726 5 лет назад

      ...bad choice on his part by going on Sky News. could have just done a piece on YT directly or found some other media forum/outlet.

  • @katerichardson8523
    @katerichardson8523 2 года назад

    Was this to do with new order firing him

  • @beetlejuice9320
    @beetlejuice9320 5 лет назад +2

    Manc hero

  • @chief1redwolf909
    @chief1redwolf909 5 лет назад

    Christ said I will keep at perfect peace who's mind stays on him

  • @BarriosGroupie
    @BarriosGroupie 5 лет назад +2

    Why the nasty comments for Kay? She has a job to do called interviewing her guest and asking questions that might interest the public.

    • @vermilliongecko
      @vermilliongecko Год назад

      In a 2008 interview with the former girlfriend of serial killer Steve Wright, Burley was criticised for asking her whether, if the couple had enjoyed a better sex life, he would not have committed the crimes.
      Images from 2008 show Burley appearing to strangle photographer Kirsty Wigglesworth outside the Naomi Campbell hearing, which a Sky News spokesperson explained by saying "Kay Burley was provoked by a hard hit to the face with a camera."But the Associated Press said: ‘Kirsty is absolutely sure that she’s not the person who bumped Ms Burley with a camera. She was the victim of an unprovoked and inexcusable attack.’
      During the 2010 general election, Burley's interview with electoral campaigner David Babbs from 38 Degrees was criticised for "bias and aggressive behaviour"

  • @bryankinney1
    @bryankinney1 5 лет назад +3

    the sight of that woman makes me sick...is hooky really that desperate for an interview???

  • @danielowen5787
    @danielowen5787 5 лет назад +2

    interviewer was pony, a rock star chatting to his square grandma

  • @globalparadise6979
    @globalparadise6979 5 лет назад +4

    Wheres his tatoo's
    Hooky had a few on his fore arms last time i looked

    • @chrisguevara4476
      @chrisguevara4476 5 лет назад

      I saw his bee on his arm back in May.

    • @MrPomelo555
      @MrPomelo555 3 года назад +1

      Chris Guevara Did it poor honey?

  • @thevellocet
    @thevellocet 5 лет назад

    Too many E's El Hacienda

  • @lukaszskiba6482
    @lukaszskiba6482 5 лет назад +3

    L tryptophan is the cure for depression for all people

  • @666Eva
    @666Eva 6 месяцев назад

    aaaw :)

  • @kashmir87
    @kashmir87 5 лет назад +1

    Wow, it's really startling how bad she is at interviewing, I'm getting whiplash. Let him talk and listen before jumping randomly to another question, ffs

  • @BarbieChaite
    @BarbieChaite Год назад

    Elle fait poser des questions bêtes dont on connait 20000 fois la réponse... c'est fou. On apprend rien...

  • @oscarslife5497
    @oscarslife5497 5 лет назад +1

    His wife used to beat him up? I don't get it

    • @disorder_go
      @disorder_go 5 лет назад +12

      How is that difficult to understand? She beats him up knowing that he won't hit her back.

    • @vincentdeguard4726
      @vincentdeguard4726 5 лет назад

      that not really the reason, something causes the action. is she also depressed? drink/drugs...suffers from an illness? has she been" taught" to resolve conflict with violence?

    • @Psychocartography
      @Psychocartography 5 лет назад +1

      @@vincentdeguard4726 she was an alcoholic and an addict. she's dead.

    • @rael1999
      @rael1999 4 года назад

      @@vincentdeguard4726 .....is that called letting go of all responsibility for your actions ?

  • @cecicestmoi
    @cecicestmoi Год назад

    could she maybe stop interupting his answers' ends.. so annoying.

  • @jameslandy9959
    @jameslandy9959 9 месяцев назад

    If she abused him then why did he wait until after she died to come forward? Maybe because she wouldn’t be able to defend herself. Maybe he’s lying,maybe he’s not. We’ll never know.

  • @beetleything1864
    @beetleything1864 5 лет назад

    They must have paid him a lot of money for this soap opera.

    • @vincentdeguard4726
      @vincentdeguard4726 5 лет назад

      ...someone should been looking-out for him. given his "fame" could have used other outlets other Sky

  • @thefinalsolutionall
    @thefinalsolutionall 5 лет назад

    blah blah blah

  • @gaygambler
    @gaygambler 5 лет назад

    Ian is the king. Fook hook.