SL1200Mk5 vs Rega P3 ( :-)same cart used for both decks, only the labelling was wrong on screen
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2018
- Dearest Friends, here we have it: the much asked for shoot-out between the Rega P3 and the Technics SL1200Mk5!!!
The same cart: MP200 had been used for both the P3 AND the SL1200Mk5 in all these 6 songs : Treble (Art Blakey - Noise in the Attic), Bass (Clean Bandit - Dust Clears), Guitars (Doug MacLeod - Black Nights), Piano (Fumio Karashima), Vocals (Rebekah Del Rio - Llorando), Orchestra (Rachmaninoff)..... But i did not label them on screen correctly. You can actually see the purple MP200 was really mounted onto BOTH the decks for each of these songs...only my labelling was wrong (wrong labelling SL+1042) and it should read SL+MP200.
Thank you for pointing this out friends.
*Apologies big time as the labelling is wrong of the carts. But the actual cartridges used are correct. You can see the actual carts used in the video.
It is always P3+1042 vs SL+1042
And P3+MP200 vs SL+MP200.*
This shoot-out is between the Rega P3 (launched in 2016), versus, the SL1200MK5 using the Jelco HS-25 headshells and Herbie's Way Excellent Mat.
The SL1200Mk5 beats the Rega P3 completely in the shootout stakes, using the extremely capable Nagaoka MP-200 and the Goldring 1042 cartridges, and with or without the record clamp.
My wifey, 2 lovely stepsons and I were in Japan just recently, spending 8 days there with my mother-in-law. I had finished all auditioning and had written down all the sound qualities of these two decks on 30th Sept just before we boarded the flight to Narita. I told myself to dig in and film the narrative in Japan, so that I can produce this video episode on time (as i would still need at least 7 days to complete the video editing). Once I was back in Singapore on the 8th, the intensive video editing started. Working nonstop, I manage to work through the hours and finalize the video on FinalCutProX and upload it just in time to release it at 5:30am here (Singapore time).
If I take some time to reply you lovely friends' messages, I hope you will understand why🤗 as I would really desperately need to sleep in for a few hours before I can get back to replying.
Appearing are my lovely wife, stepsons, my sis-in-law and daughter, Tola from Shanghai, and some teenagers around town!! FIlmed on sites at: Lotteria at Ueno, on the trains, at Yodobashi Camera Akihabara, around my in-laws' place (where my family stayed at) in Kasukabe, DiskUnion Shibuya, HMV Shibuya and Recofan Shibuya.
Warmest Regards,
ian.
do you have extra MP200, I want to try it with my P3..(joke)...nice video :)
😄🤜🤛😄you've got me there Buddy!!....hahaha🕺!!!!! Thanks!!!!
Brother, allow me to wish you guys🌿
May you and your family be Safe, well and happy,
~ greetings from ian from 🇸🇬
@@HiViNywschannel what cartridge was on the technics? Did it come with it already installed?
What cartridge is on the technics?
I hope you are well and come back to RUclips some day, hands down the best reviewer of carts and turntables on the entire internet. Thank you for all your hard work :)
All your videos are an instant click for me. You have helped me so much so far and I know I can trust your reviews.
I am actually starting to think about upgrading my turntable and both the P3 and the 1200/1210 were on top of my list so, again, Ian to the rescue. Thank you for what you do, keep up the excellent work, my friend!
Dear Buddy :-D !!! Thank you too for your very kind words and encouragement!!! I will continue to work on things that are pertinent, and especially with same-priced competitors, and sometimes david-beats-goliath ones that will be extra helpful to all of us :-D!! Instant click. Brother, thank you for your very kind words really :-D... so you know what to buy now: the SL1200 :-D !! Go go go!!!!!!!
Warmest Regards my friend!
I always find the Japanese stores for music absolutely remarkable. The passion the have for hi-fi and records new and second hand is literally awesome. We have nothing like that here in the UK.
In the U.S. either, envious for sure!
Indonesia is godawful. I went to one of the "best" audiophile stores today and all they had were 2 turntables but the worst part is their website advertises a bunch. Absolutely no professionalism!
@@jackedkerouac4414 lumayan kok di indonesia , harus cari toko yang tepat aja
@@adiphotspur emang ada toko yang dijual barang audiophile tapi kurang profesional. kalau ada cuman 2 turntable jangan meriklan 8 pilihan
Very well done review! I just got a 1210mk5. Have a Goldring 1042 on it. Sounds amazing. I love how you compared so many styles of music. Thank you for the time and effort it took to do this review!
Great “on the road” review my friend, I am still chasing a SL1200 mk5 and waiting for the Schiit Sol, first come first serve!, cheers from Phoenix Arizona. Keep it up !!
Hahaha :-D "first come first serve" in either case! Thank you Jorge for so kindly messaging so fast!!!! Best Regards to you and your family in Phoenix Arizona!!!! May you get the Mk5 and Sol soon!!! (me too still waiting on that Sol) :-D!
my friend you are one of the best reasons to watch youtube
What a great review! I just discovered your channel and i really enjoy your demos. Great work. thank you! Greetings from France
Dear Buddy from France, thank you so much for your kind time too sharing the joy in audiophilia :-D !!! Hi five!!!! Hehheh!!! Let's spin on. Our common analogue bliss :-D!
Thank you once again for this great video!! you must have put in a LOT of work for this one, wow! i really like the format and your commentary on different locations. Thanks for taking us along on this hifi journey 👏🏼
Brother from The Netherlands!! :-D How are you! I BET YOU ARE DOING fantastically well with your SL1200Mk2 PLUS SCHIIT MANI PLUS MP-110 !!!!!!!!!! :-D Hi five!! hi FIVE!!!!! :-D . Thank you for your kindest support Buddy!!! I would commit to do more for you friends.... i sincerely hope my efforts would be pertinent and useful to as many people as can be... :-D Best Regards Buddy!!!
Never saw a more detailed sound comparison than this. Keep up the good work!
Ah man, the editing on this must have taken forever. I really appreciate the work you put into talking about each piece of the frequency spectrum in a different location in Japan. The set up and planning for the shots...incredible. To the heart of the matter, it's pretty clear who the winner was here and it's funny, I just sent one of my employees to Japan on Friday for a three week stay in Tsukuba.
Hehheh dearest brother Paul, thank you so much for catching up so early. You've been absolutely supportive of so many of us friends in the community...really touch our hearts. Wow, three weeks stay in Tsukuba!...hope you also instructed him to get the whole array of green-backed, red-backed, blue-backed and yellow-backed Onzow Zerodust cleaners :-D !!!!
My friend Bill K was impressed with your presentations and subscribed to your channel. I am also truly amazed with your review process. A job very well done and presented. That represents a lot of work, so thank you, my friend.
Buddy, thank you for your kindest time and encouragement for an old friend here.... :-D Thank YOU!!!
I owe all my work to all you fellow buddies in this most beautiful form of music appreciation!!!!
Warmest Regards, and may you and your community be safe, well and happy~~~!!!
Hi Ian. Great another review. Thank you! Regarding the Regas, I was told by experienced people that they do not have suspension and can couple the vibration with the floor when used on the rack. Putting them on a sheld attached to the wall makes a complete different sound, more precise, clear and with lower noise floor. I consider that this is a shortcoming of the Regas.
Really need to get myself an sl1200! Keep up the great videos Ian!
Once again, you are the best reviewer of any product that I have seen on RUclips and your reviews are extremely entertaining and informative. I love the style and your editing technique and I strongly agree with your contention that it's as important to hear the silence in a recording as it is to hear the sound. Great job and thanks again.
Brother🤗really happy to be on the same page as you and received your blessings again too!!!! Your encouragement and others' , fuel my path, enables me to continue this journey of providing a service to our common community😄😄😄😄😄😄thank you so much my friend!!!! Do have a great festive period and a happy New Year!!
Wow, field trip and review all in one. You out did yourself on this one. Appreciate the effort. Learn so much watching your channel. Thank you.
Dear Buddy :-D thank you for your kind words and support!!.. I will aim to do more... your message, and others', really touch me deep inside and drive me to dig deep into my own pockets and commit funds to purchase more equipment for testing and reviews. I hope my efforts will help as many people as possible in the vinyl community. Thank you for your encouragement my friend!!!!
Best Regards and enjoy analogue bliss in your home always! :-D
I am not surprised with your results on that tried and true sl-1200. Always fun watching you on your journeys. Good looking family you have. Very detailed analysis. Thank you.
Hi my friend😄!!!great to see you again!! .. how are you doing?... yes, the decks are compared using the same carts with the same tracks.
Only Ian could make me enjoy and appreciate a review where my table came in second. Great job, as always, sir!
Dear Buddy :-D!!!!! Thank you too BUDDY :-D !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hehheh!!! Hi five!!! We enjoy this really fulfilling and fun hobby!!!!!!
I concur with Ian. I recently sold my Planar 3 and replaced it with a 1210gr. Using the same mp-150 going into the same Project Tube Box DS, the SL absolutely smokes the Planar 3. Bass has much more slam and goes deeper, the highs shimmer more, imaging is much improved, and the sound takes on a more forward, immediate approach. Having near perfect speed and the ability to nail VTA goes a long way in improving sound... I feel like I'm finally extracting the full capability of my cartridge now.
Great review as always. Many thanks for your hard work and long hours. Enjoy your rest and relaxation.
And yes Brother you must be enjoying your MP500 and MP110 too :-D !! Yes 6:38am now... i need to get some much needed sleep now... thank you for your kindness my friend. See you soon and may you and your family be joyful and healthy always. Best Regards, ~ ian
Hey Ian, Another fine review, my friend!!! Thank you for the great effort, time and your uncanny ability to decipher and communicate to all of us, your expert impressions, in another well done shootout review.
And no, I still haven’t purchased a tt as of yet- lol. I just returned from RMAF in Denver. It was a wonderful show! I also demoed the amazing First Watt F7 in my home for a week. Wow, what an impressive amplifier. Almost “tube-like” in tone. Sorry to see it go back to my dealer. Thank you for sharing with us, your trip to Japan and your beautiful family...
Dear Buddy Briand :-D!!! Sorry for my late reply, as RUclips misses out on some notifications and I have to physically track back. Thank you for your time catching up yet again my friend!!!! Hope you are doing well!!!!
Hehheh!! Not yet purchased!? Totally OKAY! Take your time, enjoy your journey!!!!
Wow... what a show the RMAF had been from reports...love that interview of Schiit guys :-D.. Nelson Pass' First Watt running in your home? Mmmm......yummy........
F7..... Aegir.... shoot-out to be done by you my friend :-D!!!
Let. me. know.
:-D Warmest Regards always to you and your lovely family and friends there too!
Your not just a reviewer your an educator. Wish I hadn’t sold my sl 1200 now.
Brother, thank you so much for catching up :-D... sorry for my day's late reply. I really thank you for your acknowledgement for my efforts in the past. Brother, it is only, purely, and very importantly, due to you friends' support, that I am doing all these work....the support really drives me to commit to putting my own monies to get more equipment to test out. Really. It really drives me from within. Thank you for all your encouragement Colin. Thank you.
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Ian, yet another outstanding review!
Another faithful disciple running the SL-1210GR & MP-200 combo (retirement gift to myself) and just can't thank you enough! Cheers from Canada!!!
Brother Ken🇨🇦👋😄!!!! You'd be a Master and leader helping others around you in NO TIME. Thank you in advance from all of us friends 🤜🤛!!!!!
Goodness GR(tested to be better than the P6 by several friends here already) PLUS MP-200!!!!!!! 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Wow! Technics superior to the P6...IMPRESSIVE!!! My door is always open to members of this community! Cheers Ian!!!
@@kens7618 You are experienced and so ever helpful my friend!!! Have a happy retirement 💪😄✌✌✌✌✌✌🍾☕☕☕☕☕🏡🍹🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶
Like yourself i also got a Technics table and a Nagaoka MP500.
But i was so curious about the exotic Moving coil.
In the end i got a Sumiko Blue point special Evo III, which were a huge upgrade over Nagaoka.
Then i got a Sumiko Blackbird, which is kinda expensive 😅
all-in-all when you feel it's time to upgrade, a high-output moving coil like the Sumiko is a huge step in the right direction over your Mp200.
Bro Ian, what a cool review. Really enjoy this review. Listening is really believing,
Consummate presentation from the nicest guy on RUclips! Made me smile as a friend dropped a ton of money on new rig that included the Rega 3. I was convinced my 1210 M5G had more passion and grunt even tho running through more 'humble' amp and speakers. This confirms! (Using Ortofon 2 Club needle and Oyaide MJ 12 Platter)
Currently restoring old Mk2 1210. Managed to fit brand new 1210 GR arm already with the nice RCA and ground plugs on the rear.
Thank you again Ian!!
You should be reviewing for a professional magazine !!! I can’t recall anyone that has the passion you do ! I love your emotion and passion . Stay safe and God Bless
Dearest Buddy Jerry! Thank you for catching up!!! Hehheh.... i will continue to do more for the community!
Thank you for your kindness and time spent on me encouraging me :-D
Thank YOU.
Wishing you and your family good health, strength, peace and safety always,
~ ian.
What do you think of the technics sl1600 mk1?
Outstanding review as always, loved the different locations 👍
Thank you my friend for your kind encouragement :-D!!!! Hope you have a great vinyl journey too! We catch up again!!! Warmest Regards!
Thank you my friend for your kind encouragement :-D!!!! Hope you have a great vinyl journey too! We catch up again!!! Warmest Regards!
Appreciate the video. Thanks for taking time to make it.
Thanks for this great production! I like your reference to "meat" in the music as you were standing in front of the steak restaurant.
it always amazes me that it is even spotable on youtube. i can only imagine how much better this sounds at your home. anyway, i think both systems sound really good. only in direct comparison you may notice what you miss out. thank you once again for this thoughtful comparison. hope you are doing well and looking forward for more content ;) greetings from germany.
ps: fun idea to rcord the comments on the road :) adds another dimension to the video even though the audio sometimes gets lost in space.
Brother from Germany, Guten Tag :-D... enjoying your S.A.S as always i believe!!!
Hehheh!!!!
Sonus Fabers always are so beautiful to behold...and as a compliment, i believe all wives of husbands wielding Sonus Fabers, will agree to their husbands to the audiophile hobby!!! My wife just spotted me looking at some Sonus Faber-like stands on sale on our local hifi forum, and she said: "BUY THEM!!!!!" :-D HAHAHAAA!!!!
(but alas, when I called, they are sold)
(erhem...of course... they are so beautiful, a la sonus faber aesthetics and wood finishing!!)
S.A.S.=
Sonus Faber
Ansuz
S3000
@@elderinmoi1571 hehhheh most of the time to vinyl?... I understand why of course💪😄!!!!
Hello Ian, congratulations on another superb video. I loved how you combined and interspersed an equipment comparison with a bit of a travelogue! What a great idea! This for me made it all the more interesting but no less informative. Fantastic editing. Well done.
Brother and yes enjoy your MP-150 on your P3 too!!! :-D Thank you for catching up!!! Brother i have always been enjoying my P3 for the past one year...it is still the turntable to beat if one buys new in the market now at the $900-$1k mark. The MoFi StudioDeck as I have tested, is the equal of the P3 in all sound quality parameters except losing to the P3 only in terms of bass depth/extension and dynamics. Cherish your P3 too...i will continue to keep the P3, it is a superb deck at the current market, and its relevance to vinyl-audiophiles still ranks highly and cannot be doubted. Best Regards my friend..i have checked back and we have known each other since last last year! How time flies... have fun my friend, be safe and enjoy!
Hello Ian, good to see you in a new video! This time, you innovated by putting your test opinions down to the bottom of your trip! Nice!
I missed our purchases at Disk Union. . Good journey to you and your family!
Dearest Alvaro and family!! I need to catch up too on your latest additions to your hifi at home too :-D! Thank you and send our regards to your wife too! Love, M and i.
I could never begin to afford most of the gear you feature in your videos, but I love watching you. You make me want to be a better listener! Greetings from the Mendocino Coast in Northern California.
Dear Buddy from Northern California :-D thank you for writing in and I wish you the very best of joy in your channel!!! Hope you have enjoyed a good summer!!>..
Proud owner of an SL1200Mk2 paired with Nagaoka MP110 thanks to your wise and honest recommendations!
Not slightly regret (quite the opposite)! :)
Thank you always Brother for your wonderful Portuguese record VCLT for me. I still keep it very nicely and play it with extreme care..... Portuguese is a beautiful language (I spent some time learning it a bit ten years ago)...thank you for you amazing recommendation and sharing...in the best possible way: getting a record and sending it to me. Great Music, GREAT HUMAN TOUCH. Thank you Buddy......
Heeheee now you too have a SL1200Mk2 + MP110!!!!! Oooooooooh!!!!
Brother, hope you are having a nice Autumn in Portugal now, and my best regards to your family too.
~ ian
Don't mention it Ian! Just a small token of appreciation of your hard work towards the Vinyl Community!
Keep up the excellent work! :)
@@zeruipelayosilva Thank you dearest Rui🇵🇹🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗.
Grateful to you always.
YES! The SL1200 and MP-110 are a match made in hifi heaven!
Brother Nick, yes indeed :-D ..the MP-110 scores highly on the P3 arm too... both proofs that the integrity and construction(smoothness, and lack of freeplay) of the Technics and Rega tonearms, silentness and isolation of the motors, good wiring, all contribute equally to the MP-110 doing its best job of tracing the grooves :-D!!! I enjoy the MP-110 both on the SL1200 and the P1 & P3 :-D!!
Dear Ian, I loved your review, as always. I am on a lookout for a new turntable recently. I hope sometime soon you will take into consideration to review the new Technics 1500 c that is coming out, as I am very interested in it, and with your excellent insight compare it to the older SL 1200 series. I am very interested to hear your opinions, as I am sure i will choose on of these Technics for my new listening gear. Thank you, and all the best to you!
What a great video, thank you so much for all the effort you put into it. I've learned a couple of things I must say, one of them it's to -more than ever- keep my 1210, what a glorious machine. Again, thank you so much for performing this thoughtful and complete comparison. Best regards.
Oh yes Buddy 🤗!!!! Keep your SL1210!!!!! Still greatly underappreciated by a lot of us....but this test makes me respect it even more and recommend it strongly!!! How can we ever live without one SL1200/1210✌😄👍!!!! Have fun Marco's, with your SL!!!!!!! We'll spin on💪in analogue bliss🎶🎶!!
@@HiViNywschannel I have had a few tt's over the years, recently sold a Sansui SR-838 which I had since my father bought it new in 1979 but I've have had also Sony, Pioneer, Luxman, etc. Recently decided to keep only one and the 1210 was the clear choice, years back I was willing and able to interchange turntables from time to time but my age and mostly my back problems have forced me to stop doing that. Yes my friend, certainly we both like to spin those beautiful rounded vinyl objects filled with music, so yes, spin on indeed. Nice talking to you, you have a new subscriber here. Regards!
Dearest Marcos :-D thank you so much for your lovely reply!!! Ah!!!!! Ooooooo.... the Sansui SR-838 vintage one!! Amazing you and your father even had all the Sonys, Pioneers, Luxmans!?!!! WOW!!
Ian, your vlogs get better each time! Just loved your camera work of your travel in Japan whilst simultaneously explaining the finer nuances between the P3 & the SL1200Mk5. It must be really tough to remember at what point to say what with regard to the review part whilst being live at location. Good job brother 👍👍👍 Awesome and keep it up 🙏
Dearest Buddy :-D thank you for coming by and saying very kind things to me... yes.. it is very tough going from point-to-point and remembering what to say with regard to the review part in total, :-D hahaha live at location too with people walking around, and many variables coming into play :-D!!!!!! Ahhhhh.......... :-D
Brother, how are your Revox RTRs?? How is your JC3Jr? :-D
Warmest Regards Buddy Jayaram!!!!
Ian this is a fantastic review and, if I may say so, a total vindication of what I have argued for years over the higher end Technics SL**00 series decks. I have a modded 1600Mk2 and I have often been laughed at when I tell people that it significantly outperforms the Nottingham Analogue Dais/SME IV combination I used to own. My own belief is that the accuracy of direct drive offers a leg up in terms of faithful reproduction and dynamics. By comparison many highly regarded belt driven decks, although fabulous, sound sluggish and slightly less detailed by comparison. Your meticulous testing technique also helps to demonstrate that the Technics arm is an extremely well thought through design, and the subject of much R&D by Technics. The DJ deck myth was seized on by cottage industry British turntable manufacturers in the 80s. Sadly it became a widely held view, generally by those who had never done the comparison. Thanks so much for this and my very best wishes to you and your family.
Dear Buddy :-D great to see you again. Thank you for catching up, thank you!!!! WOW: "...total vindication of what I have argued for years over the higher end Technics SL**00 series decks. I have a modded 1600Mk2 and I have often been laughed at when I tell people that it significantly outperforms the Nottingham Analogue Dais/SME IV combination I used to own..."
OOOoooooh :-D nice one that!!!
THANK YOU my friend for sharing even more and helping people away from P3, ProJect Classic, MoFi StudioDeck, VPI Cliffwood (all $1,000), onto the Technics SL.
And thank you for letting us know the DJ deck myth started and proposed by cottage British manufacturers...perhaps conveniently because these TT manufacturers from Britain couldn't muster the industrial know-how and tooling to construct and devise and execute the productions fo a DD deck.
Some DD decks are poor, and they may not help in the cause of the proposition of DD decks. But in many of our experiences, yes, Technics did a fantastic job spot-on.
Warmest Regards to you and your family and vinyl-playing buddies in your community!! :-D we catch up again anytime.
~ ian.
Thanks for your kind words and good wishes Ian. I would highly recommend two tweaks for this deck. Firstly, and this makes a huge performance leap, fit the KAB USA TD1200 Tonearm Damping System. 150 bucks at www.kabusa.com/m1200.htm See also www.kabusa.com/td1200.htm Secondly fit either Isonoe Suspension Footers ($175, same KAB link) or look on EBay for a set of Audio Technica AT605 feet (you might be able to find those in Singapore or Tokyo of course). With those two tweaks in place you will take the sound forward by a massive margin and competing with some very esoteric turntables. Hope you try them. I fitted the KAB tonearm damper and AT feet to my 1600MK2 and the already impressive sound moved forward very significantly.
@@MrCatalysis101 Both you and Ian confirm what I've heard with my own ears, problem is peoples egos and investment in high end belt drives gets in the way of objectivity and truth.
Gavin absolutely. I think, given the choice, most turntable designers would prefer to work with direct drive, but it’s a very expensive thing to develop, which is why only the larger manufacturers were more able to go down that route in the past. They could, after all, have stayed with belt drive if they felt it was the better solution. It’s also significant that VPIs recent anniversary model is a DD, proving when cost isn’t an object for a smaller manufacturer that’s clearly the preferred option. And for very good reason.
Absolutely loved the new style of review brother. Its certainly more entertainimg while retaining the imparciality of the review
Dearest Buddy,
Thank you for coming back and so kindly saying hi and always chatting up. Really touching to hear from you... :-D
I still remember a month ago, how you alerted me to the rega cartridge issue.
You've been of extremely kind help brother. I would like to send something to you if you don't mind... you can email me your address to me at hivinyws@gmail.com :-D
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel wow thank you so much Ian you dont have to send anything but itll certainly mean a lot to me. Thank you my brother ill email you. It means a lot to me
It ill be a great chance for.me.to send you some.mexican vinyl for ur collection certainly not as high.quality as what u are used to but im sure itll make your collection more.colorful
Dear Buddy :-D
I hope i am not missing your email, but I have yet to receive your email in my inbox... :-D let me know! I want to send something to you!
Brother, I will be launching my new video in another 10 hours' time, i want to specially inform you about it, coz you are a special friend to me!!! There is a contest inside the video too, and i hope you enjoy playing the contest as well as all other friends!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
IAN I DO MY HOME WORK WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS. THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! YOU HAVE THE SUPER BEST VIDEOS!!!! KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK!!!!!
Dear Buddy Dale!! :-D sorry for my 38hours' late reply... thank you for catching up!!!
Hehheh...enjoy your MP150 !!!!! Yes~!!!!!!!!
Warmest Regards my friend, catch up anytime too!
Wow! What an epic! The 1210 is a killer deck. I have had one spinning for the past year after it wiped the floor with my 'house' turntable.
Nice sounds coming from the 1042 too. Instantly recognisable.
Keep up the great work, Ian and best wishes to you and the family from Qatar.
Dear Buddy :-D !! Sorry for my delay in response...i had just woken up just now after working nonstop till 7am this morning... had a quick bite and my wife was kind enough to understand today would be a bit special :-D!
I read that you had fitted a Rega RB250 tonearm on your SL1210!!!! Well done my friend!!! Yes indeed Rega arms are very good!
Best Regards too to you and your family in Qatar...
you are, always, always, one of the fastest to respond with my launched videos.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH BRUDDER!!!
still, i will love my p3 no matter .... love the fact you showed your country, great adventure to see how you live.
Dear Brother :-D yes i still keep my Rega P3 !!!
Warmest Regards, and continue to have fun in your vinyl analogue journey!
~ ian.
Technics 1210 GR vs MK7 review would be great. There are no sound quality comparisons between these two models.
been anticipating this. thank you for the priceless effort putting this together dear ian :)
Fantastic Brother :-D you ACQUIRED the SL1200Mk3D recently!!!!!!!!! What joy!!!!
Kudos to you!!! Power be with you!!! :-D hahaha....your vinyl journey from now on, with be SUPER FUN and JOYOUS. Guaranteed.
:-D YAY!!!
Hello there Ian,
Wow, I have been waiting to see your opinion on the Technics 1200. In fact, you will be happy to know that I just bought a brand new one from the late eighties. But more importantly, I must tell you once again that your editing is award worthy. You may have the 'Best' turntable reviews on You Tube. No, not one of the best. They are the best! The way that you edited the sound bits when comparing between the two TT's is incredible. It was nice to see Kita-Senju station. So clean. I was looking at photos of
Adachi and it looks somewhat like Downtown Boston. To me it seems like the SL won out in this comparison. Would that be fair to say? Wow, would you look at all of those SL's at 22:15. I am shopping in the wrong places around here. I must take a trip to Tokyo someday.
Like I mentioned your videos are the best Ian. Just awesome. I enjoyed this very very much. Thank you so much for putting it together. It is always an enjoyable lesson~
Rob/Boston
Dearest Brother Rob!!!! And thank you so much for getting back and showing us the way and energy with all those 45s!!!!!! Since six you've been collecting?💪😄👍!! You're a hotshot in our VC!!!! Indeed and please keep it going too. A great start and hehheh....7"s are compact too and light, and no less valuable....in fact I think they are rarified and precious than 12"s. You've a great series coming up!!!!! Congratulations!!! And thank you for showing us the nicccee blue skies. Always an inspiration to us Senior VC but Young Rob 🌞🎵🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶!!!!
Love,
Moko, M and i.
Hi Ian, excellent review. It's interesting how hushed your voice is depending where you are. Everything is pretty load in Toronto. Will have to keep my eye open for a used SL. Until then my trusty Thorens TD 160 will keep me happy.
Regards
Alan
Dear Alan!!! Hope you have been able to help your friend with his Heybrook TT2!!! :_D
Yes brother ...always, always keep your Thorens TD160. Never let it go. I wouldn't too if I were you.... it is a modern classic. Sigh...too many classics I have been dreaming of owning!!!!!!!!!!! The TD160 ranks high up there too!!! Occasionally one pops up at hifido.co.jp.... and i will be drooling big time!! :-D
@@HiViNywschannel thanks Ian. It's a great table. My friend's TT is in good shape. It was put away and forgotten until I started working on my Thorens. Best regards brother.
Hey Ian, thanks for using a microphone or the improved voice recording! Pure pleasure to listen your shoot out! Marvelous! Thank you for everything!
Brother...hehheh... thank you for writing in again!!!!
Best Regards!!!! Hope you are having a nice day!! Good week and weekend ahead my friend :-D
Thanks for the comparisons, and I like your music taste!
Dear Vincent, thank you for coming by 6 weeks ago... i apologize for not replying you earlier. Warmest Regards and hope you have a superb vinyl analogue weekend!!!! :-D Thank you for your time Buddy!
Sir can you please compare RP3 and RP6? will RP6 worth the money ?
Loved this once again! Interesting how your channel has become my absolute favorite these last 2 years. Really cool. I loved the mix with Japan again. Fascinating country that is... I was never really a fan of the P3, don't know why. I thought the Studiodeck sounded warmer and more enticing... This time around, I loved the SL1200 much more. Do you still use the default captive wiring of the MK5? And did you modify anything? Except probably getting the compliance right with the headshell? Oh, I really love the TD-124. What a great deck that is! Even with the pretty okay Acoustic Signature Tango and the really good Nagaoka MP-110 (which is conquering my country thanks to your reviews!). I was already thinking about a SL1200 as a second deck (MK5 or GR). And now, definately :) Great work!
Another excellent video thoroughly honest and informative.Well done!
Dear Buddy Ted :-D!!! I still remember your previous message: "...can’t wait for Essex versus Osaka!" How apt!!!!! :-D Hahaha!!!! And yes, Osaka wins this round indeed.
I hope to do more for the community...and because of you and fellow friends' support, i will continue to pinch myself and dig deep into my pockets and get more equipment to test and review..i hope they will be pertinent and useful for as many people as possible. Thank you Ted for all your years of support, and Friendship.
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Loved how you told the story in all the other locations! So unique! At my resolution and headphones I couldn't hear the subtleties, but this doesn't surprise me. HOWEVER, when you demonstrated the differences in the words, I could hear that, even at the low resolution of YT. This should also help clear up people's misconception that it is all cart - the table and arm is ALL part of the system.
Dearest Kris🤗!!
Thank you for your kindest support my friend!!! Hehheh...did you just plan it? Or did RUclips just selected the cover photos for both your Remodelling Computer Room videos by coincidence: you and your wifey each putting up the index finger👏😄👌!!!!!!!!!
A little bit of both - YT made the thumbnails, but I did pick them :)
WAH... You are lucky, YT picked the most ideal thumbnail shots for you :-D!!!!
Hahahaaha....way to go man Buddy Kris and M!!!
What is the name of this store and where exactly are they located? I wonder if they have an online catalogue where I can browse their products...
Another thorough review, Ian. Great job!
And the SL1200 proves once again that it's not an HiFi wannabe, it's the real McCoy!
You know that having a DJ turntable can be a shortcut to be the subject of a joke in some "elitist" HiFi circles.
The 1200 is probably the only DJ model that has managed to gain some respect.
May i ask you what kind of alignment did you use for your 1042 in the Rega?
Oh yes Brother!!!! Not an HiFi wannabe, it is the real McCoy!!! :-D
Thank you for your coming by and saying hi again, adding value to everyone's viewing. I just knew of a friend who had gotten a SL1200Mk5 to his Michelle Orbe...and finally convinced in his own home, by what he heard. He now loves the SL1200 to bits!!!!!!!!!! :-D
Brother, i use the Lofgren curve for my 1042 on the Rega. I used the Dr Feickert Lofgren curve...not to mean that Dr Feickert's version is different,..but just to be complete in my answer to you. Yes, I use the Dr Feickert NG Protractor and its Lofgren null points/geometry so as to standardize all my cartridge-turntable-phonostages reviews.
Warmest Regards my friend!! Hehheh.... 55k supporters on your channel and going very, very strong!!! Power be with you Brother. Thank you for the energy and your constant productions. They take a lot of time!!!!
Thanks for your reply, Ian!
I asked you this because near the end of your video, and for a brief moment during a camera movement that you did on your P3, i think i saw the screws of the 1042 a bit more forward in the headshell than they would be if you were using the standard Rega alignment.
Baerwald alignment also puts the cartridge a bit more forward than the Rega alignment, which by the way, it's very close to the Stevenson alignment.
Yes, 55k, it's hard to believe sometimes. I don't know how that happened. LOL
And yes, those videos take a lot of time from me, but this is not a job or a duty for me, i do this just for fun, so, there's no sacrifice involved!
But i'm pretty sure that your videos take you a looooong time to shot and edit. You're doing a great job, not only with the reviews, but also with the video production.
See you around, Ian!
the sl 1200 started out as just a normal dd turntable that dj's started using though the sl 1210 was the first one with the slider on the side
Wow! Great comparison! I will be showing this to a friend who was considering the P3. I'm sure he'd be happy enough with it, but this would make me choose the SL1200 if it were me. Thank you again, Ian!
Hi Brother :-D!!! Thank you for recommending Mikael Akerfeldt to me just a month ago!!!
I still love my P3, it is still the best sounding $900-$1000 TT on the market if one were to buy new...and pretty much plug-and-play!!! The P3 still wins if compared to the StudioDeck. Yes I still play my records with the P3 a lot :-D
Well done for helping your friend!!
Warmest Regards to you and your family! and thank you for your time and kindness again!!
~ ian
Hi Ian, what a wonderful video! I really enjoyed your incorporating the review with your trip to Japan. It was great seeing the record stores again. You are really tempting me to buy the Technics SL 1200, although I am very happy with my Sansui SR-2050 turntable (with the Nagaoka MP-110). Of course, a person can (or should) have more than one turntable!
It was good to see that your family is healthy and happy. My best to you all.
Dear Buddy, i hope you and your family are doing very well in CA :-D!!! Yes your Sansui SR-2050!!! I don't think I will always keep it too if I were lucky as you!!! WHAT A SUPERB, SUPERB, SOLID, CLASSIC, solid-looking, substantial and mouth-watering, sumptuous deck :-D !!!! Everytime you mention it, i have to google image it to feast my eyes upon it (i just did over the past three minutes...hmmm....yummy!). Ooops back to replying you!..
Heehee...in Japan between 1st to 8th, i realized that Suehiro is a place near Shibuya :-D !!! Pardon my ignorance!! I was looking at the railway map and i thought about you when I saw "Suehiro"..and its accompanying Kanji characters :-D.
You know more than me! I had to google Suehiro Shibuya and found the Suehirocho Subway Station you probably saw on your map.
Hehheh.... :-D !!! May we meet there one day!!!!!! I may go to Japan again next year May or June.
HiViNyws channel Although we are not planning on a trip to Japan, one never can know for sure. It would be great to meet up. Perhaps one day...
Hi Ian, after seeing your review I bought a mk6 from Japan in mint condition. Love your channel mate....keep up the good work!
Brother!!!!!💪😄🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏an (
*SL1200Mk6* !?!!!!! WHOOOAAAAWWWW!!!!!!✌👍😄👍✌✌✌👍👍✌✌✌✌ and with that superbly finished and beautiful Titanium tonearm!!!!
What a very, very special and legendary tank and beauty of a deck.
Brother, congratulations😄👏👏👏!!!!
Thank you for catching up with me too🤗!!! Enjoy Brother,
Enjoy!!!🌿🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Warmest Regards Buddy,
Keep in touch anytime,
~ ian
@@HiViNywschannel Thanks for your great response Ian! Is the tonearm really titanium? I thought only the mk4 had that. In any case, I couldn't be happier with it and it's because of you and your incredible channel.
Cheers
Jon
@@jonbonzo9199 oh sorry Jon! You're right, it is the Mk4 that has it. Too excited to miss that fact! Anyway! I'd tell you that I'd rather have a Mk3/4/5/6 over a SL1200GR anytime. I'm consistent and have mentioned this too a couple of times over these messages with other friends too. Your Mk6 is the newest of the 3/4/5/6 and hence the rarest one and most oft times found to be in the best/better conditions than the older 3/4/5👍😄✌✌✌✌✌ that's why I'm so happy for you!!!!
Hahaha....congratulations again Buddy!!!!!😄🤣😄👍jubilation!
@@HiViNywschannel No worries mate. Was hoping you were right though!😁👍👍👍
@@jonbonzo9199 🙌🙌
Any chance of you reviewing the Technics SL1500c? I ordered the Schiit Mani to accompany my tt and am curious where this thing might rank?
I just ordered the SL1500C myself, I'm also curious if this can deliver the famous SL-1200 sound.
love your reviews! want you to review everything in this life!
Thank you Sir👋🤗!!!
Have a good weekend my friend!!
Wow! That's some major editing. Watching parts of Tokyo and those Disk Union stores while doing the review was all a bit too much for me. Planing yet another trip!
Not too surprised that the Technics did well, but did really well. Thanks again Ian.
Dear Buddy Nelson!!! ;-D how is your trip to Osaka and Kyoto with your wife?
@@HiViNywschannel
Hi Ian. It was great. My wife and I a huge fans of Japan. But I only found one Disc Union store, but they did have quite a variety of specialty LP stores in Osaka. I'm already booking my next flight to Tokyo and I already have some strong ideas of buying a record player. May need your advice later next year. ;)
Will you be doing a review on the 1500c?
Hi from London...Very interesting review. Any plans to test the Technics 1500C?
Thanks to Ian’s channel I hunted down my own sl mk5. Great new video sir! I still haven’t bought a new needle yet I’m still shopping!
Dear Buddy from Pittsburgh!!! :-D Oh YEA!!! you have acquired your own SL1200Mk5!!!!!!! WHAT JOY!!!!! Woooohoooo!!!!!!
Yum yum.... now's the time to shop for a new cartridge!!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
@@Chudhole .... Y.A.Y. I😄😁😄😁😄😁😄😊✌
Thanks again to share
this excellent video
WOW good job!
It’s a surprise for me ( SL1200 MK 5 outperformed P3)
Hi Buddy....me too...I am surprised too. It is a comprehensive win.
Finally we all know🤗.
Thank you my friend for your time. Do have a great weekend ahead🏖🎵🎶
Ian an excellent job as usual, I see you are getting into film making here, I loved your transitions and how you related everything to your vinyl journey.
The Rega tables always lagged behind Technics in the bass region and your findings matched my own when I had my Technics 1200, which sadly, I don't have anymore.
What some people don't realize is Technics originally made the 1200 for audiophiles as being the best that they could make at the time for the price point thst they were trying to hit, bevause at that time everyone was making direct drive, Yamaha, JVC and Sansui and others. Audiophiles didnt take Technics seriously and the DJs started using them and saw how stable they were and the legend grew from there.
Ian the next shoot-out should be how the old Technics 1200 mk5 competes with the new 1200g and 1200gae and their similarities and differences, along with sound demos. You won't have to buy any new equipment. Ian no one has done this on the RUclips or the internet in general and no one can do it with the pure love and support to the vinyl community that you have shown.
This will answer many questions for others who are looking to buy a 1200g or 1200gae or whether or not to just buy a regular 1200 mk5. Besides you have all three decks and why not. It could be a two part series. Good luck Ian and keep it coming, you are truly a vinyl ambassador.
Dearest Buddy :-D.. you are so kind!!.... thank you for catching up so regularly with me, with us :-D!!! Friends online will read all your comments too... and...how is it? Your Audio Alchemy PPA-1 ...:-D did you manage to acquire it at the better price at AudioAdvisor? Or did you get it at $1795? I hope for you the former :-D!
Awesome! I can't wait to save up for sl1200 now!!! (:
You won't be disappointed! If you're buying used make sure the arm is in good shape.
YUM YUM.
:-D
Thank you Jonathan brother for catching up!!!!!!!! I wish you best of fortunes getting one!!! Come on SL1200s... APPEAR FOR JONATHAN!!!!!!!!!
Fantastic Brother!!!! :-D!!! Thank you for helping Jonathan brother!!!
@@HiViNywschannel YES!!! I do hope so!!! :DDD thank you for your reply!! It made my day!!
Another awesome review. Really surprised the table makes that much of a difference. Always thought it would be more about isolation and ability to keep speed. Your also super lucky to have so many great HiFi stores wish we had more like that here. Thanks again for another sweet review.
Bruuudder!!! You have YOUR SL1200Mk3D!!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! I wish for all friends in the world wanting to get a Mk2/3/3D/5, for them to acquire them affordably and in great mint conditions... i pray!!!!!! :-D for the sake of vinyl magic to continue bright and STEADY!!!
Warmest Regards buddy and really happy to see you ever so regularly... it is due to you friends support and encouragement that drives me to commit strongly to using my own monies to purchase more equipment for testing and reviews. I sincerely hope the information and efforts will be pertinent and useful for as many friends as possible. ... thank you!!.....
Love you passion for the hobby and that your reviews are unbiased and super informative. Your were a huge help to me when I bought my MP200!!! Really loving that cart. Have had my 1200 since it was new in 2000 been a great table. Originally bought it to mix with but now use it in my hifi setup. Amazing how little has changed with it since it was originally designed in the 70s. Thanks again for all you do! Always look forward to your reviews. Singapore looks amazing btw. Reviews like this one are great were you show your country. Happy listening friend!!
Buddy!! Thank you for your kind words for singapore... :-D yum yum you have the MP-200!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goodness gracious!! THat is an absolute stonker of a cart :-D !!!!!!!!!!! Crazily great!!!!! Another congrats is in place!!! SL1200Mk3D PLUS MP-200.... BEST!!!
Was just wondering what you were working on next. Awesome comparison, Ian. Not hard to guess I was rooting for the SL. A deserved winner!
Ooooh... another brother with the Sansui SR2050!!!! WHAT A TANK! My mouth waters and drools every time i google-image it.... awwww :-D !!!!!! And please continue to enjoy your Mani and MP200.... that purple cart is just magical. Wooohooooo!!!!!
How does the Mk5 compare to your Rega P6? I'm wondering what level of Rega you need to better the sl1200 sound. Any experience with modified Rega such as Groovetracer platter and subplatter? Thank you, wonderful videos!
Dear Brother, sorry about my late reply...... Thank you for coming by and catching up! Regarding the MK5 vs the P6, it was actually the older RP6. :-D . I find the Mk5 more than capable of matching the RP6. Speed accuracy and stability is definitely better. Sound quality wise, I would say the Mk5 is slightly better than the RP6!!!! The Mk5 is very well engineered indeed!!!!
Warmest Regards and have a great weekend,
~ ian.
16:30 I was thinking 'I hope you bought that Hiroshi Suzuki - Cat.' Then it started playing in the store in the next clip!
Rega P3 with Neo PSU beats the technics
Thanks! Enjoyable videos! Technics is surprisingly not just a DJ TT. The SL-1200s are in fact Audiophile TTs! I just never got use to that snake arm. Never seen the science behind curving the tone arm? Clearly, it's working here!👍
Very good comparison and material selection. Well done!
Hi Ian, great reviews! I see you have both the 1200g and GR. Is there really that big of a big difference in sound quality or is the mk5 good enough for most sistems? Mi system has great sounding floorstanding speakers by Audes (blues), vincent pre-phono, harmony design pre 9 preamp and Tprogress power amp (don’t know if you‘ve heard them).
Thank you and best regards! Keep up the cool reviews!!!
Brother :-D thank you for coming by and saying hi!!! What a massive system you have built-up!!! Congratulations for your efforts1!! Brother, I do not have the GR, I only have the gae, the g, the mk2 and mk5. You are right, the MK5 IS SUPER enough for most systems. People will be surprised when they themselves choose the Mk5 over a couple of $4,000 famous turntables. I regard it as the greatest turntable of all times. Performance, solidity, durability, affordability, and.... FUN. Truly the Best.
Warmest Regards my friend :-D and may you have a great Sunday out with family and friends!!!
~ ian
HiViNyws channel Thanks again for your advice! I'll let you know what I end up getting. Warmest regards to you as well!
How could anyone dislike?
This man is THE MAN!
Hi Buddy :-D thank you for coming by and catching up!! I hope to continue doing more and get out information as pertinent and useful, to as many people as possible.... Thank you for your kindest time and support :-D !!!!
Warmest Regards and i wish for you many years of fulfilling and rewarding vinyl analogue discovery and listening ~
~ ian
Wow Ian, your best video yet! Very good side by side comparisons - I agree that people dismiss the 1200 as a DJ turntable but it is a huge mistake! The 1200 is a great turntable! I would like to modify my two 1200 3D one day (rewire the tone arm with better cables, dampening, etc - I think they can be cleaned up a little inside) but they are already great as they are. I will not get rid of my two 1200s! Thank you for the tour around Tokyo - looks like so much fun!!! Best wishes from NYC!!!
OOoooo yes yes Brother with the TWO SL1200s in NYC :-D!!!and sorry i have yet to get my hands on the Tavish. Brother, i wish you the very best in tweaking, modifying, having fun and upgrading your SL1200s!!!!!! Yes we will always KEEP our SL1200s. How can we not :-D!!! Hahahhaaaa!!! Congratulations to us :-D !!! Heeheehee...
Warmest Regards to you and all your vinyl playing friends nearby you!! Wish i can visit NYC in future and catch up with you friends! You guys are too kind.
Brother, i want to state that the encouragement and support you friends give me, is the only propulsive force that drives me to commit my own money to purchase more equipment for testing and reviews. I really hope my efforts will be pertinent and useful for as many friends as possible. Thank you Brother....i owe you guys. Owe you guys.
Grateful,
~ ian.
This landed in my recommended videos. Great work! Thanks for sharing. Your shoot-out confirms my own experiences. If you ever have the chance, do try a Technics SL-1000 (any model is fine, as they all are exceptionally good). Now, there's a turntable that has very little competition.
Dear friend!! Thank you for catching up and writing in! Fantastic...we are really living our vinyl dreams in the best possible way!! :-D What classics Technics put out!
Have fun Buddy!!
Wow! I wanted a P3 but the SL sounds like a much better option. Thank you for sharing!
I picked up the Technics SL1500c. Ty
The old king is still no slouch. :)
@@kblack3970 did you compare the P3 vs the 1500c?
@@ryansudding667 Unfortunately, I could only base my decision on the reviews I was able to find. I found the P6 more to my visual taste but really couldn't justify the expense. I like the P3 but went with what was familiar and I like the direct drive.
Anyone try the 1500c? And how it compares to the P3?
If anything I'd assume that the 1500C would outperform the MK5, but I'm not sure. One thing I can say is that I had a MK7 for a while and while I really did love it, I ultimately chose the MoFi StudioDeck. They were very comparable fidelity wise but the StudioDeck just looks and feels nicer, not to mention the hinged dust cover, which the MK7 DIDN'T have :(
Just want to take the opportunity to say thanks for your reviews. They got me to buy a Nagaoka MP110 as a new cart when my AT440mla stylus wore out (replacements are super expensive now) and I'm very happy with it!
Well done Brother Thaddel :-D!!!!!!! Or yes... the MP110 is great and the replacements are much cheaper than most other more expensive (yet lesser performing) carts.
Have fun have fun!!!
I'm having a ton of fun with it! :D
My plan now is to replace the 110 stylus with a 200 one when it wears out, I think the 200 stylus should fit on the MP110, right?
Dear Friend!!!... this is from a fellow esteemed Nagaoka user, his name is Leon... he messages us on message boards very regularly:
"Nagaoka makes their cart series in 2 steps. The MP-100 and 110 share bodies, MP-150 and 200 share bodies, and lastly the MP-300 and 500 share bodies too."
So detailed and Clear ! Great job ! Thanks
Thank you Lui👋☺🎵🎶🎶!!! Have fun!!!
Great comparative review, which is one reason I love your site. Have you had a chance to listen to the new SL 1500C? Curious to know if it continues the legacy of the SL 1200 family.
Dear Buddy! Yes the 1500C ... I have not had a chance but hopefully soon. Coz it is not available in Asia except Japan. If we want to get it, we would need to buy and ship from UK or European (with 230V 50Hz) countries.🙏😁😄
@@HiViNywschannel Happy new year, looking forward to your test.
Dear Ian,
awesome work as usual, you really share and spread the vinyl love!
Could you say something on how the Goldring 1042 stood up against the MP-200?
Lots of vinyl love from Germany,
Chris
Hi my friend👋😄!! How do you do? Guten Tag!!!! Thank you for coming by!!
Yes both the carts are great...but I have yet to do the A-B auditioning to tell them apart. Really! Until then, I will withhold judgement first... I am really sorry Buddy. But I will get to it....the 1042, and the 2M Black, the AT 760slc, the MP-500.
Warmest Regards Buddy 💪😄🎶🎵🎶and have a superb vinyl'ing journey!! Music and friends!
HiViNyws channel
Thank you,
I‘m looking forward to your findings!
Keep up the great work and your enthusiasm!
All the best,
Chris
Thank you, very interesting. Even if I think that a fairer comparison should be 1200 vs Planar 6. P3 and 1200 belong to 2 very different price segments(no matter the year).
Thank you again for all your passionate reviews!
I needed this after a long day at work! So instead of getting an sl-1200 series turntable I found a wonderful deal on a mint condition Sl-5100 and had to get it. It has identical specs to the 1200 and uses most of the same components only it is housed in a lighter body which is the only drawback. Otherwise it sounds spectacular with my Nagaoka mp-150! It is a beautiful turntable too, classic and simple style. I agree with you assessment on the qualities of both decks and I find the same comparison holds true between my 5100 and my Rega P1 with the 5100 sounding very natural at all ranges while the p1 has a very colored tone and feels more artificially balanced than naturally balanced. It wasn't a fair fight, the P1 just wasn't built on the level that my Technics was. Glad to know I saved hundreds of dollars by not getting a P3. Wonderful video as always!
Dear Buddy :-D!!!! WOW!!!! You've scored a classic! Heh!!! Very happy for yoooou!!!!! :-D it is very difficult to get a mint condition of the 5100...oooooooohh....and i believe you will keep it always with you! MP-150 adorning it now?
Bliss!!!
I am surprised that in relativity terms, the SL1200 sounds more natural besides being more high fidelity, than the P3. That being said, the P3 is the best new TT at the $900-$1,000 range, beating the very, very, very capable and solidly and painstakingly designed and engineered StudioDeck by Alan Perkins, Harmonic Resolution Systems. I still love my P3 and my StudioDeck. They are very, very capable.
And alas, the SL1200Mk2/3/4/5 still trounce them :-D...
Brother, the P1, i still keep it too..i use it to show new vinyl adopters, that it IS a capable first look-in into vinyl replay and also, 95% or more, of vinyl listeners are NOT audiophiles willing to spend more than US$1000 on a deck. The P1, is very respectable too. I am sure you will keep it for quite some, long time too!
Warmest Regards Budd,,....thank you for your kindest time catching up with me. Such support keeps me going and drive me to dig deep into my own pockets to acquire more equipment to perform reviews and provide information pertinent and useful to as many people as always... thank you so much my friend. Thank you.
Show time! You're doing the review all over Tokyo? Very cool! :) Impressive. Now I'm wondering about the Technics SL-1200GR.
Technics 1200 MK. 5 versus Technics 1200gr ($1700 U.S. model).......that REALLY should be interesting.......I know the $4000 U.S. Technics 1200g is just a mini-SL1000.....and the SL-1000 is one of the best tables EVER !
.....however, I would get another arm......like a SME 309 or SME M2-12 so I could have 3 headshells......LP Stereo, LP Mono, and 3.5 mil Shellac-era Mono !! :)
Brother "Yippie" heeheee.... great phone call we had 2 weeks ago while I was in Japan at the very doorstep of my in-law's home :-D !!!!! I hope your week has been very good!!! UPDATES, UPDATES from your journey....thank you my friend... my thoughts with you ... 300, K.
Yes, thanks for the call my friend. I appreciate your advice. Cheers
@@yippie6862 Thank you too for the sharing Brother Tom😄👍
I would say, just go for it, the new GR is the one to have unless you can afford the 1200G.
I've been having the debate with myself whether to buy a P3 or an SL1200. I had pretty much convinced myself that the SL was the way to go.... Now I'm COMPLETELY convinced the SL is the one to go for. Another great video Ian! Keep up the good work!
Dear Buddy Patrick! Sorry for my late reply. Sorry... and :-D i hope you have got yourself a SL1200 mint one, by now!
Warmest Regards and may you and your family be well and happy, safe and healthy always,
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Ian my good man, no need to apologise for the late reply! I haven't found a 1200 yet, but I'm still looking! Thank you for the kind words. My family and I are well. Hope you and yours are safe and well. Hope to see another video from you soon
@@HiViNywschannel Ian my friend, good morning from Ireland! I have finally got a new turntable ordered. Not a MK5, but a new SL-1500C! I take delivery of it next week! I'll let you know how it sounds 👍🏻
@@HiViNywschannel Hi Ian! I hope you and the family are well during the odd times we're currently living in! So, I took delivery of my new Technics SL-1500C just a few days ago. I got it set up and I've been listening to it since then and so far it is brilliant! The tight control over bass, the beautifully detailed mids and the crisp, clean highs give a wonderful listening experience. I had an old Project Debut 3 which is at least 10 years old and the difference is night and day! I will, in time, replace the cartridge. I was originally thinking of just switching the stylus to a 2m blue, but I know how highly you rate the Nagaoka MP-110 which had been on my list for a while. I have a Schiit Mani which I know works well with the MP-110. Do you have any recommendations for a good headshell to use? Stay safe buddy.
Ian, thanks for the excellent review. I am saving up to buy an SL-1200 here in the states. It was great seeing the places in your video, that I visited in April of this year when I went to Japan. I recognize the Yodobashi demo rooms and RECOFAN. I wish I could have been there with you to look at all of these places again. In the meantime I will work on getting an SL-1200 myself. Thanks
Brother TOM!!! :-D sorry for my 38 hours' late reply. I thank you for your continued presence. It is due to you friends' support that I am able to continue to dig deep and commit to spending my own monies to get equipment for reviews and unbiased testing. Thank you, very, very much... i really hope to continue to do more and put out information that are pertinent and useful for everybody...as many people as possible.
Brother, hi five!! :-D you have been to Yodobashi and RECOfan too!!! :-Dlhhhaha... yay!!!! Very dangerous places to go!!! Sure to end up spending beyond our inital budget!!! :-D
Brother, i wish you too, best of fortunes getting your SL1200, be it the GR or the older stalwarts 2/3/3D/5.
Best, best regards my friend Tom.
~ ian.
Hi Ian! I had to let you know about how I just watched this vid again, but this time with a very nice pair of Klipsch headphones my brother graciously gave me. It’s even more apparent how the SL beats out the P3 in every way, once again, but much more detailed when using a nice set of headphones. I have to admit that I only use headphones when listening to videos or my iPod when I’m unable to sit down and properly let a vinyl record envelope me with when coming through external speakers.
I just wanted to drop you a quick note and say hello too. I hope you and the rest of your family are doing very well. I anxiously await your next video as always.
Have a great night, Ian!
Your friend,
- Nick 😀
Brother so great to hear from yoooouuu!!!!😂😂😂😄😄😄I'm very touched!!! I still have yet to answer your message 6 weeks ago! I kept a note and it is a lengthy reply which I haven't completed yet😅... apologies jy friend...and yes, Buddy. I am doing the last lap of video editing on my upcoming video to be readied on Saturday in about 48hours' time! So nice of you to write in to me and know it is 9pm here in Singapore...night indeed. I am working hard now after seeing 103 patients today😅...I am a salaried employee family doctor.
Warm regards Buddy!!
Dear Ian,
In Romania is quite difficult to find an SL 1200 in good condition at a decent price. I saw, however, some reviews that are comparing SL 1200 with the Pioneer PLX 1000 and say that they are quite similar. Did you have any experience with the Pioneer (which is available here new at a price close to Planar 3)?
Best regards,
Cătălin
Dear Cătălin 🤗 thank you!!!for your letting me know! I will attempt to do that review and shoot-out in the next few months. The PLX, only looks similar, but underneath the pictures of our screen, everything is different: BMC base of the Technics, precise quiet shielded motor of the Technics, tight bearing tolerances of the Technics, the high performance cabling used in the Technics. Everything😄. Still, I will be doing that review to show it all. Thank you and warmest regards to you, your family and your vinyl'ing friends in Romania 🇷🇴🎶🎵🎶🎶!!!
Dear Ian,
I know that they are quite different, but the Pioneer received good reviews from sources that seem respectable like www.cnet.com/news/pioneer-plx-1000-a-dj-turntable-an-audiophile-can-love/ and www.stereophile.com/content/gramophone-dreams-4
It seems that this is the only copy of the Technics made by Hanpin that worth a look. If it’s not up to the task, none of the others will.
All the best to you and your family,
Cătălin
@@catalingurau5769 From my experience I can say that pioneer plx 1000 had loose tone arm from brand new. Pioneer is the best company in advertising and marketing that's for sure.
loved this shoot out Ian!!! As always mate, you deliver an honest comparison. Were they all playing through the Mani? If you dont mind sharing the thickness of the mat you are using also?
I've got the SL1200mk2 with the Nagaoka MP110 as you know, and its a joy to listen too - Though i do want to switch carts on it and the MP150/200 or the Audio Technica MPLX 150 (if i can find one) are on the radar .
I am not familiar with any differences between the Mk5 and Mk2 with their tonearms etc but if there is are you able to advise them?
The Technics too ofter gets overlooked as a DJ table, it was originally released as a bonafide HiFi table but due to its strengths and build quality DJ's took to it, but i think those that use the SL series for HiFi are all in the know its a ripper of a table that requires no maintenance or fuss and has a truck load of adjustments right there ready to go!!!
08Boss302 MK5 have better internal wiring in the tonearm and better RCA cables. All other things are more or less the same as in mk2, 3, etc. You could rewire tonearm for very little money with very good cables if you buy mk2 for example. I was just wandering how Jelco HS-25 and Herbie mat influence the sound, in comparison with Technics rubber mat and original Technics headshell. Nevertheless, I think that Technics has much greater potential to thinker with, you could change bearings, PSU, tonearm, get KAB oil bath for original tonearm, etc, while there is not so much potential for upgrading P3. Not to mention that Technics will eventually outlast ourselves probably, while Rega seems not so toughly built in comparison.
You can replace the stylus only on the MP-110 if you want to. I'm running an JNP-200 stylus on my MP-110 body. It sounds great and it cost me $175CDN (ordered from Japanese ebay retailer.) To my knowledge, Nagaoka has never clarified what, if any, difference exist between the cartridge bodies, at least from the MP-100 to MP-200.
thanks for the replies guys, i wasnt aware of the differences, in my quick google searches there wasnt much info i could find. I wouldn't touch bearings or replace the arm, but i have read about some KAB upgrades in the damping of the arm. this interests me a little as potentially does the wiring, but as as i am not technically effiecient and undoing something that works very well only to raise issues for myself could be a problem LOL - i might be best leaving it all alone?
Tthis hobby always leaves you wondering - how much better will it be if I change or added, and now its got me wondering..... hahaha
Dear Buddy :-D, one fellow esteemed Nagaoka user by the name of Leon, has told me and other friends here, that: "The MP-100 and 110 share bodies, MP-150 and 200 share bodies, and lastly the MP-300 and 500 share bodies too."
From AceTechHD, a fellow friend here who just messaged us on the message board here : "The MK5 has a recessed on/off switch (mostly for DJs), MK2 has an analogue pitch the MK5 is digital, and the MK5 has a spot for an extra head-shell. Otherwise the MK2 and MK5 models are exactly the same and use the very same parts."
Great to see you back :-D!! Heehee Mk2 and MP110 to show for too!!! Forever rewarding the SL1200 is!!! Boss you have fun :-D
Very well done video as usual Ian, but can only take so much away from it unless the same cartridge is used on each table!
Brother😄 the same cartridge is used on both decks for each one particular testing track. I have stated this on my title and in the video descriptor below the video. So you can take the full McCoy from the video😄!!!
Great review, and yes I have an SL1210 MK2, been using it for over 10 years, though I have modified and upgraded it something quite special. Very happy with it.
Oh Buddy Chris... yes!!.... the SL1200/1210Mk2!!! :-D I am very happy with it too! Hi five!!! I read with delight: "...though I have modified and upgraded it to something quite special."....... WOW!!! :-D !!!!
Best Regards my man!!!
@@HiViNywschannel SME 309, modified bearing and copper bonded platter with an external psu, oyaide mat and cable, it sounds stunning.
Please do a review of the new fluance reference level turntables (Rt-82 thru 85 esp the rt-85). It would be great to see a shootout between them and some more expensive competitors...
Dear Buddy :-D yes, I will hope to get to them soon...but right now, and for the past 2 months, quite a number of their models are out of stock... :-D thank you for your very kind time coming by and writing to me.
Warmest Regards,and may you have a lovely vinyl'ing journey!
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel
Thank you! You're the best, man! I just got my first Nagaoka Mp110 in the mail yesterday thanks to you and your tireless work! Can't wait to try it! I look forward to your future videos; as a new audiophile, I find them extremely helpful and they make the hobby that much easier to enjoy. Thank you so much!
@@SAngel-dj1lv hi Buddy🙏😄👋😄👋👋👋!! Thank YOU so much for coming by and your thoughts for me my brother!!! Hehheh....I will be working diligently on any useful reviews and shootouts for us friends as much as possible along this journey we all blissssssfully share💪🤗🤗🤗🤗🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶😄yay!!!!! AND, enjoy your MP-110 of course!!!! Chad of "CJ Vinyl" channel has some things to share on where he procured them too! Warmest Regards Buddy and have fun in vinyl analogue bliss💪😄🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🌈
This is a very interesting and well presented shootout. BUT! I have some comments. First, why not use a good quality MC cartridge? You have two fine MM carts, but a high quality MC might present a very different point of view. Second, which Herbie's mat did you use? While I like Herbie's mats for the Technics DD tables I used to own, I felt even the 2mm mat exhibited some damping to the sound of my belt drive tables. If you are using a thicker version, lack of dynamics and separation on the P3 would not surprise me. Granted, I have never owned a P3, so it might be that the sonic character does not change much with the changes I am suggesting, but my vintage belt drive tables typically sound best with MC carts and impedance/gain matched SUTs. All tables seem to benefit from correctly choosing mat materials which best compliment the TT's sonic characteristics. Peace!!
WOW Buddy :-D i have just checked back and we have known each other for more than 2 years!!! Great to see you again my friend. Oh yes, i only utilized the Herbie's Mat for the SL1200Mk5 in this test, the P3 is using its original Rega Wool mat. Thank you so much for your sharing of experiences!! Very nice of you to spend time talking to us!
My wife and i send our regards to you and your family too.
Moko my furkid is on my lap now as I type :-D
Ian, you are unique in RUclips the best review, especially in this world of vinyl that a small change can fail an entire system, greetings from Chile and we are waiting for the next video.
Dear Buddy Alfredo👋😄!! Thank you for spending time catching up with me too!... I appreciate your kindness and friendship here with me!
Yes I'm working on the next video and hope to ready it by this weekend! I've got to work hard on it.
Warmest Regards to you and your family and friends 🤗🇨🇱🏡🏡🏡🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶!!! See you soon!
I've been in and around the audiophile world all my life and there's no one quite like Ian. Freedom from snake oil and hyperbole makes the world of audio a better place.
@@DjPhaseFour Brother!!! We will win together!!!!!!💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Brother, warmest regards to you and your vinyl-playing friends in your community!👋🏡😁🎶🎵🏡🏡🎵🎶🎶😄🏡🏡🏡🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶😃🌈✌!!!
Hi Ian. Happy New Year! My KAB modified SL1200 MKII with the MP-200 cartridge is humming along nicely. Cheers mate!
Brother!!!! Hi!!!!! 🙌😄!!! Great to hear your super system running like a dream!!!!!!!!😁💪✌👍👌🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Thank you for catching up Buddy!!!!
Warmest Regards to you and your family too!
Thanks for this comparison, I have an SL 1200Mk2 and was considering the Rega P6. If in Vancouver, Canada you have tour guide waiting to show you our hifi and vinyl scene!
Dear Tom from Vancouver :-D!! Hi and thank you so much for your kind time catching up on your Sunday afternoon!! Hope you are enjoying some vinyl music at home as we speak too!! Yes my friend, with your encouragement, I will work hard to get to the P6. Enjoy our Mk2s!!!!! Warmest Regards buddy!! ~ ian
As an SL1200MK3 owner, I'm gloating now :) Actually, it's good to know that what I've been hearing isn't false. I've always thought direct drive was the way to go, at least in this price range and the criticism of DD are unfounded. BTW, I got my MK3 from Japan, a buddy brought one from Yokohama to Canada for me - 28,400 yen - not a bad deal! It's mint too. Jealous of those stores you got to visit in Japan! Now we need a MK5 vs GR comparison! (PS: it also calls into question whether replacing the tonearm on SL makes sense. People are putting RB-30X arms on their SLs claiming great rewards, now I wonder.)
how does the power voltage between countries work
I have a 110V to 100V step down transformer, bought it on Amazon for about $50.
Hi Buddy!!! Enjoy your SL1200MK3D and Nagaoka MP cart!!!! What a great deal!!! 28,400yen!!! Thanks for letting me know!!! ooooooouuuh...yummy!!! Hope the inventory left in Japan is still a lot!! :-D . Thanks for helping another buddy with very likely acquiring HIS own SL1200Mk2/3/4/5/6 too from Japan!
I knew it! Dear Ian, thank you once again for your enthusiastic and unbiased review. As always, your reviews show how a true audiophile thinks and with how much attention and preparation you go through all these comparisons. As you know, I have 1210mk2, Nag 110 and Schiit Mani, and was really wandering if I should sell it and buy P3. Now, I have my answer without having to spend additional 400 euros to buy P3. These Technics things are really indestructible and, what is most important, they do sound great! We all know that initional intention from Matsushita was not to buld a DJ turntable, 1200 was just a simplified and cheaper SP-10, a true legend of a turntable and for almost 30 years a reference in broadcasting. Once again, delightful to see your review, and hoping for more good viny, stuff from you my friend! Be good Ian, and best regards!
Oh yea Brother Miljen!!! Hehheh... now you can forego spending that Euro400 :-D...heeheheehee hi five!! ENjoy your SL1210Mk2 forever.......super rewarding!!
Brother, i want to thank you for doing your best helping fellow another friend called 08Boss302 with his queries on the SL1200 :-D...
You are so kind!!!!!! I do have a hunch too that the Mk5 does have better internal wiring...and better RCA cables too!!...but am not sure. May i just gingerly ask you...how sure you are? If you are, and you have the source of information, do let me know!! I want to be enlightened :-D !!!! Teach me brother!!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Thanks very much Ian for your videos. I love watching the culture of your city and your passion for music.
Only point is a fair comparison for the Technics would be rega 6 not 3.
It would be great to have a shootout with the Clearaudio. I look forward to your next video 🙂
Dear Buddy :-D thank you too for coming by and catching up!! You and fellow friends' support is greatly, greatly appreciated by me...and it touches me deeply with your kindness. You friends drive me to dig deep into my pocket and purchase more equipment for review...i am committed to doing so due to the moral support you friends give. It means a lot to me. Thank you!!! I hope my efforts are pertinent and useful to as many people as possible.
Warmest Regards and have a great weekend!!~ ian.