The Tragic Bad Axe Massacre of 1832
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In 19th-century Illinois, tensions between settlers and local Native American tribes led to a series of escalating confrontations. The violent culmination of these conflicts drove Sauk leader Black Hawk and his tribe out of the state.
From: AERIAL AMERICA: Illinois
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The script for this segment is factually misleading and selectively edited. This reflects poorly on the Smithsonian. The so called Black Hawk "War" was a incredibly complex and relatively poorly documented conflict. Trite conclusions and oversimplifications such as this do not help shed more light on this important event in our collective history.
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Well said they didn’t even show his pic
I first heard of this doing family genealogy. Found out that Black Hawk's worriers scalped and killed my great great uncle. Problem is he was just a 2 year old baby and it happened after Black Hawk had made an agreement with the US to stay west of the Mississippi river. His parents fled to Indiana when the US militia moved in to settle matters.
Rough life on the frontier
most people blame white settlers for the violence but the natives were more brutal in my opinion, they dont teach this in school
Indian tribes fought each other for hunting grounds for centuries. Black Hawk, as a young man, fought several battles with other Indian tribes. Tribes, one after another, probably called that central Illinois area home until it was their turn to move on. Another example that somewhat shocked me: The Lakota Sioux, originally inhabited northern Wisconsin. A very rich, fertile area with a lot of game. They fought a battle with an encroaching tribe and lost. They were pushed across the Mississippi into Minnesota and eventually west into the Dakotas. I ALWAYS thought they had always been plains Indians. But that became true ONLY after they lost that battle in Northern Wisconsin around 1645.
There's a historical marker in Northeast WI that tells how the Sioux and Chippewa fought a huge battle over rice lands and hunting grounds. The Chippewas pushed the Sioux out
@@MikeMath9 I believe the battle was fought facing each other, across a river. The Chippewa crossed the river down stream and came up behind the Sioux. That was "all she wrote".
they dont teach this in school, they paint the natives as peace loving pipe smoking moralists. It wasnt until i was in college that i read about how they skinned enemy women and children alive
U.S. Grant lived in Galena.
6 years ago Wikileak said that the great athlete Jim Thorpe was Black Hawk's Great, Great, Grandson
The Indians sold Illinois in a treaty with the white Americans in 1804. In 1816 Black Hawk himself signed a treaty in which he received annuities for the land. But after selling the land he never moved off of it. In 1829 the Americans took the land that he sold back in 1816. Then in 1832 he wants to war for the land he sold. This is how the white man "stole" the land. This video and the whole "the US stole the land from the Indians" is more communist dribble. It seems every piece of land was paid for, but they wanted to keep both the purchase price and the land. This is where the expression "Indian Giver" came from.
A nice drive, down along the Rock River past that statue. Just a few miles from the statue is Ronald Reagan's birth place and boyhood home town, Dixon, IL.
Michigan has a town named BAD AXE. It is located in the " Thumb" area of the lower pennisula. I wonder of there is any connection.
I first heard of this because of a movie about Abraham Lincoln
I assume this is an excerpt from a show on IL, which is why Bad Axe being in southwestern Wisconsin doesn't get mentioned? Since Abraham Lincoln was there, it still ties back. I mean, c'mon now.
It is strange. The Bad Axe battle site was in Wisconsin, no? Why is this so Illinois-centric?
Of course, this happened when Wisconsin was part of Michigan territory prior to becoming Wisconsin territory in 1836. Plenty of the blackhawk war occurred in both locations obviously, but the defining one at the end was Bad Axe, Wisconsin which is near present day Victory, Wisconsin.
@@Bonzi_Buddy Yup. It's about 25ish minutes south of me. Multiple signs up along the Bad Axe Trail the Blackhawks followed along the ridge and at the site of the battle. The fact that so much of the climactic fight happened in Wisconsin yet it largely ignores this reality makes me assume it had to be from a show about Illinois itself.
It was all Illinois territory before statehood.
So these mf killed them. And then said oh let’s build a statue for them
The statue looks remarkably like a White guy
@@johntrojan9653 they shouldve made a statue for a white guy instead of a savage
I have plenty to say, but I'm not going to say anything.
Why y’all didn’t show us picture ? I know why
literally 2 houses in the fort
Yea they aren’t materialistic people
People didn't live in the fort. It was a place in which to retreat in times of danger.
its not to late to cede some of their property back to their decendents?? its only fair and decent thing to do...
Willie, your world must be a very dark and miserable place. How sad for you.
Yeah that was pretty recent
stu baker -LOL
Forever looking for the handout...
whos descendants? Different tribes have been fighting over that land for centuries
I cried. The descendants of these invaders still share the same value. What are their expectations during the Day of Judgement?
I agree, Hanif.
You don't have to live in misery, Willie. Let go of the hatred.
You are telling this to the wrong person. People who are whining about shit that never happened to them are the ones who need their head fucking checked.
Willie, there is nothing wrong with having compassion for people who have suffered. For various reasons, some events resonate with certain people, and we make a connection. These events are part of the human story, after all. Good luck to you.
Having compassion for people who are dead is not very productive unless you intend to use their victim status to financially reward yourself or somehow gain from it in a twisted way to push ideologies and agendas based on things that never happened to yourself. Those are nefarious activities either way.
Remembering and honoring the deceased is OK because that is actually for the living if you think about it.
Black Hawks last words should have been: Coexist
he was held against his will for many years, his wish would be that his people get to live on the lands which our ancestors lived for for thousands of years... not to coexist
Nah. "GO HOME WHITE GUYS !!!!"
@@johntrojan9653 so when you moving?
@@WereAllThatBored Good one *
But yet black folks still hanging onto the past
+Kimberly Fraizer Lol! Awesome. [:
+Kimberly Fraizer Not siding with either of you. Just thought that was a funny comeback... :)
Well not all of them, but some certainly think that they are the only people who have ever been treated badly.
The racial wealth gap is still growing. The mistreatment of Native and Black people in the US never ended
^see Americans like Willie Jenkins are still racist as
Thus proving the Blackhawk team name is offensive, & must be changed. Right? Right?
C'mon, this Indian shouldn't whine. Heck, they named a hockey team after him.
we don't want sports teams named after us.. you're disgusting
And 2 Pro Baseball Teams, a Pro Basketball Team, an NFL Team
and a Boatload of College Mascot names;;;but Read G'ya !**
ahahaahhaha blackhawk
Black Hawk got what was coming to him, obviously.
he fought against people that same murdering, stealing, rapping and forcing people out their homes and lands, and he's the bad one? lol right
He led people to death against the forces of inevitability. He knew this at the end as did Crazy Horse.
Go learn about history
So what did he do wrong?
Why you asking me? Watch the video. You cheer for one side and i cheer for the other. who cares? why is that so crazy and unbelievable. My ancestors won.