you're the first reactor I've seen who picked up on Frodo seeing his future in gollum, and thus why he gives him so many chances. If gollum can be saved, then so can Frodo.
I always say that Frodo desperately needs Gollum to be 'good', because he needs to think he himself can still be good with/after the ring. And Sam desperately needs Gollum to be 'evil', because he needs to think this evil is not about the ring poisoning Frodo, but an innate characteristic.
I've seen other reactors recognize the same thing, but... "Lysander, let me tell you something, you couldn't in a million years be like them even if you was to work at it."" Dr. Caldwell Whitlock to Prince Lysander Collins of Sparta, regarding the terrorist army they face, in "Prince of Sparta" Every time I see the scenes where Sam and Frodo argue over Gollum/Smeagol the schizophrenic, I remember Dr Whitlock's words and wish Sam would use them with Frodo, to give him the same encouragement. Knowing Smeagol's backstory, it should be plain to everyone that Frodo couldn't be like Smeagol in a million years... even if he worked at it.
@@Hiraghm Quite true. Smeagol wasn't a particularly good person even before the Ring. Frodo is *very* good. Though I don't think Smeagol is schizophrenic. He shows more signs of disassociative personality disorder.
@@brigidtheirish correct. I'm not sure where the idea comes from that being schizophrenic means you have different personalities. It's got nothing to do with split personalities. It's just hearing voices and seeing things that aren't there. They don't take on the personalities of the voices they hear. Somehow being 'schizo' became a way of describing someone who's personality switches.
Bernard Hill's performance as Theoden in the scene at his son's tomb was absolutely heartbreaking. And the whole "possessed by Saruman" aspect was a change from the books that I think works very well in this medium. In the books, Theoden was basically just in a funk, he'd had Wormtongue whispering in his ear and influencing him on Saruman's behalf. But I don't think that would have played very well in a movie. It needed a visual element so you could see Theoden becoming his old self again. It also helped that the visual effects of Theoden being restored were exquisitely done.
They did that scene four times, each one with Bernard Hill wearing different levels of make up and effects. They then edited them all together to show a more genuine transition from weak to strong
@@Rytonic69 You say that... but I think they actually put a spell on him and then undid it because my brain cannot fathom how clean that transition is. You can't just stitch and fade together 4 separate takes and keep it looking so smooth and consistent between transitions. LIKE DANG.
What makes Gandalf and Théoden's conversation after Théodred's burial even sadder to me is that That One Line wasn't originally in the script. Bernard Hill asked for it to be included because it was something a bereaved parent told him once and it stuck in his mind. And like Théoden, Bernard has only one child: his son, Gabriel, was actually even with him on set when these scenes were being filmed. So when he breaks down after saying "No parent should have to bury their child," it's both Théoden grieving for his son and Bernard responding to that grief as a father himself. Someday I may be able to watch that scene without tearing up, but today wasn't that day.
We watched it in film class, just the fellowship, but anyways, and there were many who didn't know the films. Watching them at Gandalf's death made my day.
Dunlending: We will die for Saruman! Her: Why? WHY? Saruman trying to give exposition through a speech at the exact same time: The Horse-Men took your lands! They drove your people into the hills! A lot of reactors think Gollum is being overly dramatic when he complains about the rope burning him, but the truth is that he's not. Because he was under the influence of the One Ring for so long, slowly being corrupted by it, anything elven-made disagrees with him. This includes the rope burning him, and the lembas bread tasting terrible and burning his mouth. He's basically developed almost an allergy to anything elvish as elves are so pure. 25:40 They are Easterlings, men from the nation of Rhûn who have fallen under the sway of Sauron after being at war with Gondor for many centuries. Personally I have no idea why some many people are obsessed with the 'Viggo Mortensen broke his toe' factoid. There are plenty of much more interesting stories from behind the scenes of the production of these movies, like Gimli's actor, John Rhys-Davies, being allergic to the glue they used for his facial prosthetics, leaving him with a painfully swollen face for most of his time on the production. Also, something that I think is worth noting is that when Háma, the doorward of Meduseld, lets Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas in to see Théoden he's fully aware that Gandalf's staff isn't just a walking stick. He realizes what Gandalf is doing and goes along with it. He's loyal and dutiful to his orders, so has to take their weapons, but like everyone else at the court of Rohan he wants Grima's hold over Théoden to come to an end. Gandalf knows this, as he's visited Meduseld many times before and has been greeted by Háma at the door each time. He knows what his values are, and that he can be trusted to go along with the 'walking stick' ruse.
Yeah. I love Hama's facial expression after the walking stick line - it's like, "I know you're bullshitting me right now, but fuck it, I'm not gonna stop you"
The acting is brilliant in the entire trilogy. Both the casting and acting done at top-tier levels, but I feel like it doesn't get the credit it deserves because it is an Adventure Fantasy film and is often more regarded for its grand scope & scale. Acting is most definitely the most underrated element of this film series.
Kinda agreed. And to me, Sean Bean and Bernard Hill's portrayal is when this element shines the most. I mean, we all love snarky wisdom of Sir Ian McKellen's Gandalf, groundbreaking performance of Andy Serkis as Gollum, badassery and dedication of Viggo Mortensen and absolute friendship goals Sean Astin has shown in his Sam role among many others... but multilayered Boromir and King Theoden transcend them all (especially in Extended Editions). Just imho:)
@@VladissimoTheMocker I don’t think anyone tops Serkis. Between his incredible acting skill and his insane commitment to the role, he will always be the highlight to me.
These movies dominated oscars and were never beaten in that regard. 17 oscars total 30 nominations I wouldn't say the trilogy being fantasy had anything to do with acting being underrated rather than the movies didn't really focus on one character too much.
Everything is brilliant about these movies. Every single member of the cast and crew gave it 100% for literal years of development. From the director to the costume designers, to the score and actors and the two guys making REAL chainmail in a shed for 500 days... EVERYBODY GAVE IT THEIR ALL
For those curious the funeral song is sung in a language called "Old English" very similar to Old Norse in fact the 2 could communicate easily with each other. Both cultures were huge inspirations for LOTR here are the lyrics translated Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed.
That's really poignant, thanks for sharing. I hadn't seen that translation until now. I knew that "Where now is the horse and the Rider" was an Old English poem that Tolkien had translated (or used as inspiration) and set to the meter and rhyme that it is in the novels.
@@garmisra7841 I always find it a bit funny that the Rohrim speak Old English sometimes but are heavily based off of the Norse.....they are pretty much horse Vikings lol....
Actually within my top 10 moments, there are many rather quiet instances: there is the Nazghul flying over the marshes -- and you know that somewhere down there a two hobbits and a corrupted hobbit-like creature are cowering in a hedge of some sort -- the Wraith can't even see the same way we do, but he senses them and the whole enterprise is in total danger of failure for the first time after Sam and Frodo have left the Fllowship -- it's a strong picture of helplessness versus cluelessness, because the Nazghul does not know where to even begin searching that massive swamp and yet if he did find the, the quest would be lost. then we have Gandalf sitting in an allyway in Minas Tirith, waiting for action, pondering over something -- and it might be anything, he might be sleeping for all we know -- it's a whisp of piece, light and quiet in a city at the brink of war. and then Merry and Pippin in Fangorn perhaps, just because it reminds me of Bombadil and because they incorporateted at least the old willow-man.
I say it every time, but letting Gríma go was the only decision that makes sense here. A major theme in the Lord of the Rings is showing mercy to people who don't deserve it, and besides nothing Gríma can tell Saruman can change what happens next. Rohan has to run for Helm's Deep in order to withstand Isengard's assault because Edoras isn't a fortress, and Saruman likely already knew about the weakness in the walls given how he's a few gazillion years old. The only news he brings is Aragorn being the heir of Isildur, and Saruman admits it changes nothing. Besides, even the wisest cannot see all ends.
Yes. A lot of commenters don't understand this. There was really nothing useful Grima could tell Saruman that he didn't already know. He's got birds spying for him. And a palantir.
Agreed, my only gripe is with the portrayal in the film that Theoden wanted to kill Grima and Aragorn physically restraining him. From what I remember in the book it was always Theoden who wanted to only banish him and not kill him. Unless I am remembering incorrectly? Also, Aragorn in the book seem to be a bit better at reading the room and would never physically restrain a King like that? even though he is a rightful king himself, it just felt weird...
Yes, it’s always a bit disturbing to me when people just want him killed outright. One of the major themes in the story is about showing pity to those who don’t deserve it. In the end of the books and films, it’s Grima who takes out Saruman. Evil begets evil.
@@NikolasAmodeo It's because that's what media has conditioned most of us to feel. Moments like this, where mercy is shown to the wrongdoer, are very rarely seen in media. It's almost always framed as a righteous revenge to kill them, so people get desensitized to it, and begin to condone it. That's why I like this scene so much. It cuts through that cultural desensitization and points out that killing isn't righteous or just. Of course, most people still don't realize that from the scene, but I still really appreciate that about it.
Fun fact: Brad Dourif the actor who plays the creepy Grima Wormtongue is the voice of Chucky. Just another superb actor that has graced this movie trilogy.
@@alikat89 a truly underrated gem. Watching him verbally go toe to toe with George C Scott is one of my favorite ways to bring in the Halloween season.
the rope that came down in Sam's hands was of Elvish make & was specially woven & enchanted to untie itself but only when actually needed. it was no longer needed to climb down so it fell down at Sam's tug. same as the cloak that hid Frodo & Sam at the Black Gate was enchanted to hide its wearer. also the reason why the rope burned Gollum's neck.
A person's character can be measured by how many tears one sheds whilst watching LOTR. And although this mostly counts for The Return of the King, Maple cried quite a few times already, second part included. So yeah, Maple, you truly are a magnificent person :)
@@n4l9bx If someone is unable to appreciate not only determination and will power, but also courage, friendship and love ... Yeah, I shudder at the thought of that.
My friends and I have a tradition of marathoning all 3 extended editions on New Year’s Day and these reaction vids got me excited to watch. I love the fresh perspective
Marathon's for xmas or new years' are the best. Good food, good wine, burning candles. That's how I do it, every year. I have included watching the hobbit trilogy every year around mid november
I read somewhere that Ian Mckellan preferred playing Gandalf the Grey rather than Gandalf the White because he was more in touch with his friends and human. That's one of the reasons I appreciate The Hobbit trilogy. It's three more movies of him playing the version of the character he liked.
During the scene where Gollum is thrashing around in the stream trying to catch the fish, it had snowed in that location the night before. The production crew had to bring in giant fans, heaters and even fire hoses to wash the snow away for the shot (you can still see some of it in the bushes). The water was so cold, that Andy Serkis wearing his mo-cap suit for Gollum, nearly developed hypothermia. They had to position people at the edge of the stream to stop Andy before he was carried over the waterfalls because his limbs were too cold for him to stop himself.
The reason for the change in Gandalf/a little background: Thousands of years ago, when Sauron’s influence started to spread in Middle Earth, a number of immortal spirits called the Maiar were sent to Middle Earth to contest his will. They took form of men and each Wizard took on a specific role .eg. Saruman the White to be a wise leader of the Wizards, Gandalf the Grey to be a wandering counsellor to the people of Middle Earth. Since Saruman betrayed his role, Gandalf was sent back to be his replacement, thus the change in appearance and personality. The Balrogs are also Maiar who joined forces with Morgoth; Saurons previous master.
Before you mentioned the Balrog I thought you might have confused the term Maiar with the term Istari. The Istari being the Wizards, sent to look ater the peoples of Middle earth by the Valar on Tarniquetil and Maiar being a form of other-worldly being just outranked by the valar (and Morgoth). As mentioned by Ruto here, the Maiar can be understood as angels in a way, whilst the valar are arch-angels if you want. Morgoth is the fallen arch-angel, the great evil from which all evil stems in the lore of middle-earth (and its world, arda). The Istari (Wizards) and the Balrog are no the only Maiar however to dwell in the world, for Sauron too is a Maiar in this world. As you might have acknowledged, the powers of the Maiar can vary greatly.
Regarding that scene with Merry and Pippen just before they got swallowed by tree roots: They were drinking "Ent draughts". Which made them grow. Eventually, they both became over 4' tall; giants by hobbit standards.
I love how in every single LOTR reaction someone has to explain that Viggo Mortensen broke his toes kicking the helmet xD IT has become a trope at this point and a joke! xD
The thing that blows my mind is that Viggo's IRL near-death experience filming the sequence where he's floating down the river. Apparently the current pulled him under during one of the takes, and he became trapped under a rock and he required rescue.
@@brysonfreeman7226 Yes we all know that because in every reaction video someone always has to drop a comment to tell everyone. I was making fun of that. But this was 2 years ago, we've all moved on since then.
When Gandalf said "300 lifetimes of men I've walked this earth" He means how old he is. Gandalf is stated in the books to be over 2000 years old in his Physical form, as the Wizards/the Istari like Gandalf, Saruman and some others are basically the middle earths version of Angels by J.R.R Tolkien.
I think it's not even that, 2000 years is probably only the time he literally spent in Middle eath. I mean he was sent there by the valar, but he's probably been around since before the beginning of time.
@@TheRealRealMClovin That's cool ton know! I mean I never bothered to calculate such things, I guess confused with shire reckoning, so don't ask me to use the wierd 1 day = 12 years/ 10 years or what it was -- Tolkien kinda went a bit overboard with that ^^ I mean if peope want to research that, good for them, I'll even listen to the facts when they're out, it is interesting after all, it really is. That being said, I get a mindf*ck when stuff happens in a chronological order even before the beginning of time, I mean it could mean that time was just not measured before, but something tells me Tolkien really wanted time to not hav been nvented until the tool light-poles were up (I forgott the names). What I do is I try to get a sense of what happens before what. That's challenge enough fo me. I mean - as an example - I was looking at this the other day with Bombadil (he was there before Morgoth came to the world, or came back to the world, he was there when the first drop fell (before Ulmo?) and before paths were made (Elvish paths or human paths?). Like- for some reason, there probably was no light when the valar and all were shaping the world, Morgoth might have burnt a few places down, but then they put the two beams up with the lights on thm, they get knocked down, eventually there's stars and then also the two trees that Yavanna Kementari grew and then these get poisoned, then we have the silmaril and I guess some time later the moon and sun are made with Earendil taking a silmaril on his everlasting boat cruise... From what I gather half of the Silmarillion happens in faint Starlight or the world is pitch black, which is funny to think about. And yeah, so that's how I read it, and Gandalf must have been pretty f***ing old. So 24000 years - why not? It's completely beyond human understanding, it's longer than the third age by far and that's good for me ^^
@@langdalepaul Yes, but even in the books, Frodo isn't violent, and I like that. He never kills anyone, not even orcs. And I love that. It's great to see a story that sends the message that there's other ways to be heroic besides being a powerful warrior or wizard. I like to describe it as "quietly badass."
@@kateiannacone2698 That's an awesome way to describe it. It's interesting when you see that throughout the whole epic war, Frodo's fight is almost entirely internal. And impressively, he's able to endure the constant assault until they get to Mount Doom. I always admired his fight to maintain control of his mind and will.
Yes yes yes no! Have I been waiting for this one? Yes. Am I excited beyond explanation? Yes. Did I contemplate contacting the channel due to my lack of patience? Yes. Am I going to wait to watch this in the morning due to the late hour here in London? NO! Let’s get our LOTR feels on! Thank you sir and madam!
Bernard Hill’s talk about losing his son might be my favorite acted scene of all time. We knew Theodred zero percent and Theoden for ten minutes and yet BAM instant sadness.
TY Maple for watching this. I appreciate that you have become invested in the characters. Your reactions clearly show you are in their world and care. Please have tissues for part 3.
I love Faramir's speech about the fallen enemy, wondering about his motivations and whether he was really evil at heart. It gives immediate insight into the type of man he is.
I like that they included it from the book, but it was actually Frodo's thought after witnessing his first man vs man combat. edit: Or maybe it was Sam's... It's been a few years since I last read it
That monologue is one of my favorite parts about the whole trilogy, it's one of those times where it feels like the author is directly speaking to you. I love the movies but I think it's a little questionable how often they associate glory with warfare, whereas the books are filled with moments of quiet contemplation like that speech
That was pretty funny, the first time I seen this movie and he says an elf a man and a dwarf, I though it sounded like a bar joke. It’s also pretty funny that you put the part where he kicks the helmet and actually broke his foot. Usually the comments have a ton of posts about it. You have crushed those people hopes waiting for that particular moment 😂. Guess those people will have to think of something else to post.
Frodo is affected more because he was stabbed by the Morgul blade on Weathertop. Plus the ring is getting more powerful the closer they get to Mordor. Basically, he's screwed.
You can actually see through-out the films how Frodo initially starts off being open with Sam about the ring, whenever Sam asks him how he's coping with it, but as the films go on you slowly start to see Frodo's answers becoming shorter, and he starts becoming less open, and more withdrawn, as he spirals downwards. Sam asks him if the rings hurting him and he replies honestly that it's getting heavier, cut to return of the king and any mention of the ring is met with immediate suspicion and distrust
A little fun fact when Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas was running in the beginning of this movie, all three of the actors was injured. Viggo (Aragorn) had two broken toes from kicking the helmet, Brett Beattie (who was Gimli's stunt double) had a dislocated knee, and Orlando (Legolas) had a broken rib from falling off a horse.
25:55 Fun fact: The cloaks the elves gave them in the first movie are enchanted and have the ability of camouflage. You can see that they perfectly mimic any stones, grass or trees that are nearby.
One of the things I like about the LotR trilogy is the horror elements. The director Peter Jackson was known for producing B-movie horror films in his early career and it definitely shows.
"Everything in this movie is so well thought out..." The movie is based on the books. In my opinion the greatest trilogy ever rendered in film. And it's been awesome watching it through your eyes!!
Maple your wonder and amazement at the opening scene for "the Two Towers" is simply infectious. Gandalf's fall in the chasm of Moria and subsequent battle with the dreaded Balrog to me is one of the best cold openings to a movie I have ever seen. To see your face and how you couldn't comprehend what was happening at first made it so special and endearing. Your reactions are really special and I hope to see you react to some of the great movie classics. Keep up the great work.
When the flag blows away as the group approaches edoras it was entirely coincidental. It was really windy that day and blew away one of the flags and they happened to catch it on camera.
Theodred's horse Brego is named for the second king of Rohan. King Brego built the golden hall of Meduseld. His eldest son Baldor vowed to walk "the Paths of the Dead" and was never seen again. Brego died of grief. Viggo Mortensen fell in love with Uraeus, who played Brego, and bought him when the movie was finished.
There are only three ways into Mordor: 1. The Black Gate. No way to get in there without being caught, even with those elvish cloaks. 2. Go all the way around the mountains and come in from the east or south, and then get all the way back in to Mount Doom. That would take a LOT of time, hundreds of miles, dangerous all the way, with limited food, and more time for the ring to corrupt Frodo's mind. 3. The pass of Cirith Ungol, where Smeagol is taking them. Still dangerous, but the only way in with any hope of staying hidden. Let's face it: there's no safe way into Hell.
Gandalf definitely did come back more powerful. There are many opinions on this, but I subscribe to the opinion that Gandalf returns as more Maiar than Istari. The Istari were what the 5 wizards were called when they were sent to Middle earth, but are actually angelic beings called Maiar (Same as Sauron). Their power was greatly reduced, much of their memory of their former lives were lost, and they were given certain rules regarding how much of their power they could use directly as well as they could not tell anyone who they actually were. This is why it was so significant what Gandalf did in the mines of Moria. When he confronts the Balrog, who was also a corrupted Maiar, he says, "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass." He is basically proclaiming himself to be a Maiar to the Balrog, letting the Balrog know it had come face to face with another being who had the power to confront it. After being sent back and Gandalf the White, he starts to directly use his powers much more and even tells Pippin the books that he is the most dangerous being Pippin will likely come across unless he were to be taken to the Dark Lord himself.
Thing is, the Witch-king of Angmar was just as powerful as Gandalf the White for shattering his staff with no effort, despite the fact that Gandalf couldn't distinguish which of the Nazgul were more powerful in the books.
@@AdderTude What?! The Witch King didn't shatter Gandalf's staff in the books. That was something Jackson added to the movies to make the Witch King seem more powerful than Gandalf, but it is not the case. In fact, that's one of the worst pieces of adaptation in the movies.
In the book it’s Sam who sees the dead Haradrim and ponders over wether he fights because he is evil or because he is forced to. In the Dead Marshes Gollum hints at trying to have eaten the dead warriors who he sees in the waters but cannot reach. Gandalf is indeed brought back enhanced, as Saruman should have been (as an emissary to bring the people to fight against Sauron). In the book he says there is no being in Middle-earth mightier than him save Sauron.
First time I think I've heard Gollum referred to as helpless in any context. Ents weren't described as quite as tree-like as they looked in the movies but they still did a fantastic job with them in the movies. I love the March of the Ents.
Edoras set is something similar to genius :) I think their inspiration for Meduseld were the description of Heoroth, king's hall from "Beowulf" poem and the excavations of pre-viking's halls from 5-6th century from Denmark. The gold ornamentations on the main gate and elswhere on the hall - it seems to me that they are mostly in two vikings age styles - Ringelike style and Urnes style from 11-12th century. The helmets are similar to "vandals type" helmets and their ornaments similar to Sutton Hoo burial helmet (Anglosaxon king burial) ornaments but also in all of Rohan costumes and swords and even in tapestries in the room where Theodred died you can see much of La Tene (celtic) style and also the tapestries are based on one or two famous Irish illuminated books of early medieval age. The ornaments of robes and tents are mostly of celtic origin I guess. The twin horse heads above the roof of the hall - these are Skinfaxi and Hrynfaxi, Winterfax and Frozenfax two viking deities depicted as twin horses which drive the chariot of the Sun and were depicted on vikings architecture as protectors of home. :)
I saw the first movie and thought it was alright, didn't get some it, although I had a friend who was an expert to guide me. Then I saw this...and completely fell in love with the series forever and it all came together. By the time the Return of the King was released I was a full blown fan, one of the greatest cinematic experiences ever.
Bernard Hill acting so good as King Theoden. By the way they are fellbeasts not dragons Maple. If you wanna see a real dragon watch Hobbit series after this :)
I really wish he got to do more work as Théoden, because his internal struggle about feeling that he is a lesser king, who has only held back the line of kings, and how he's desperate to prove himself, not only to his people but also to himself. The movie touches on it but I really wish they could have gone deeper into it, it's also I think one of the reasons he is so hostile to Aragorn, a guy who is a proven leader, who can get a man to follow him to the death in 10 minutes because he's just that exceptional
@@MasterIceyy Thanks for comment. I agreed first part of it. But I’m sure Theoden had no bad feelings to Aragorn who rode to war with his grandfather :)
They looked far and wide for someone to voice Treebeard. In the end they didn't have to hire anyone new as they went with John Rhys-Davies (who also plays Gimli).
Thanks, Maple! I was looking for ways to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the release of the first LOTR movie and what could be better than this? Can't wait for the next installment!
Your face during the Gandalf-Balrog fight is mine every single time I watch it! The choir at the end makes it such an epic scene. More to come! Looking forward to seeing you enjoy them :)
that's true but fell beast just means foul beast... its not the actual name per say its just how they were described their characteristics most closely resemble a wyvern from mythology
Watching 2 towers for the 100th time (give or take), I am really appreciating the tragic irony that if Denethor had kept Boromir at home he may ("MAY") have been better able to defend Osgiliath & Minas Tirith AND keep Dad on the straight and narrow. But Faramir absolutely would have been better equipped to resist the ring, defend Frodo and assist the mission to Mordor.
It's just so great watching first time reactions to this epic trilogy after all the years 😍🧡... The battle of Helm's Deep is still one of the greatest battles seen in movies 🔥. Your reactions are amongst the best and I love it that you don't fake emotions 🤩👍!
As a would-be (currently soon-to-be) father who has experienced two miscarriages with his wife, Theoden's breakdown at his son's tomb hits too close to home. Maple's reaction is my go to when I need healing and hope in grief.
"They can smell man-flesh from a day away?" Apparently. Note also that there's only one man, and when the Uruk says, "man-flesh," Merry and Pippin whisper, "Aragorn." So apparently Aragorn is well-known to be pretty ripe.
It might be because hes one of the last of the blood of the Dunedain, a sort of closer to elf race of men gifted with long life and a certain nobility. It's why Aragorn is actually like 80 in LotR
Some of the orcs are able to do that, but not all. In the books, the orc patrol that sets out after Frodo and Sam from Cirith Ungol after the rescue (the Nazgul bring a new garrison to the tower), one of them has such a keen nose that he's used like a blood-hound by the other one.
I just think it's funny because the first person Merry and Pippin think of is Aragorn. They didn't know Aragorn was after them. They didn't know whether there was anyone else around. The uruk says he smells a guy and the first thing they think of is that it's gotta be Aragorn. Can't be anyone else. "We've smelled other men, but only Aragorn packs that kind of punch to the nostrils." I also think it's funny that as soon as the one uruk says, "man-flesh", the other uruk looks up like he's going to see someone flying overhead.
@@jimpemberton Yeah, I always thought that was funny, too. Like looking up improves your sense of smell. Eomer and his Rohirrim were closer, so it's more likely them that they smelled. Did they not also smell the horses?
The wizards were meant to be good, so Saruman turning evil gives Gandalf the chance to return as the "good Saruman". That is the short version. I'm really impressed by how many things you seem to notice while watching for the first time.
Reading comments about how you beat commenters to the... punch regarding Aragorn's field goal attempt (and perhaps depriving your great channel of more comments to help the traffic), allow me to point out that Viggo Mortensen actually broke a couple of toes when he kicked that helmet. 😉 Can't wait for Maple's reaction to the rest of this one and then RoTK.
Fun fact: In the scene where Gollum is trying to catch a fish, Andy Serkis actually jumped in an ice-cold river in the mocap suit and tried to catch a fish.
Gandalf was reborn as Gandalf the White - as in "The White Wizard". It's a title - a position of sorts. When he said he was Saruman, he meant, he was taking over Saruman's title of The White Wizard. Gandalf was the Grey Wizard, and there is even a Brown Wizard and two Blue Wizards. He was there to "fire" Saruman, in effect.
Fun fact: the brown liquid the Uruk-hai poured down Merry’s throat was medicine. Orcish medicine and technology in Lotr is crude yet effective. In the books Merry also has a wound on his forehead that they smear an orcish healing salve on that heals the wound quickly but leaves him with an ugly scar for the rest of his life.
In that group that captured Pippin and Merry were Uruk-hai from Isengard, Orcs from Mordor and Orcs from Moria. In the movie we only see Uruk-hai and Orcs from Mordor. Uruk-hai and orcs didn't know that those hobbit could have the ring. Saruman ordered the Uruk-hai to capture the hobbits, because he wanted the ring for himself and was planning to betray Sauron. So Uruk-hai and Orcs had beef with each other because Uruk-hai wanted to go to Isengard but Orcs wanted to go to Mordor, they all had a different mission, also they hated each other. In the books Pippin even told the Orc leader that they have the ring, which in the book started fight between those two groups.
After reading up the lore and rewatching the films again, you see Gandalf differently since you find out he's not just a typical old fantasy wizard, he's a Maiar, an angel of sorts, and that Saruman is a fallen angel in that regard.
19:43 Technically not a dragon, Tolkien's dragons are sentient, this is a 'fell beast'. Their horses were drowned,, but they survived, so they got an upgrade. 29:34 Saruman has promised Grima Wormtongue that the can have Eowyn. She hates Grima, but if the King commands it she must obey and Saruman controls the King, fortunately he has made no such order yet
So i joined the Patreon crew as i couldn't wait for the part two upload. Just finished the whole 4 hour reaction. TOP NOTCH GOLD PEOPLE! Do it...do it now! :D
Ahhh yes! So Stoked to see Maple reacting to the Two Towers. Honestly is so cool to see someone go through the rollercoaster of emotions from their first watch and Maple does not disappoint with her reactions! Can't wait for the rest in this series!! :D
As a fun fact, there is an elf in the first age (lotr is in the third age) called Ecthellion that killed 4 balrogs in a battle, including their leader.
Based on his description, it sure seems that Gandalf left the world, which is normally something that only the souls of Men (including Hobbits) can do, and was sent back by the only being who could have worked this miracle, which would be Eru Ilúvatar (God). So Gandalf sort of went to "Heaven", spent a few eons of time from his perspective, and came back more powerful than before. That must be what he would describe to Pippin later at Minas Tirith--what the afterlife of Men is like.
Something interesting I noticed is that Gollum's pupils are constricted, whereas Smeagol's are more dilated. It's a subtle change that's fairly easy to miss without the camera cuts, but it's a small change from the books (Gollum's eyes were pale blue while reverting to green with Smeagol).
"Three hundred lives of Men I've walked this earth, and now I have no time." Here, Gandalf is just saying he's lived an extremely long life, but now, despite that - as the world is on the brink - there's too much to do and not enough time to do it before the balance tips one way or the other. He's basically lamenting that, for all his time in the world, he can't be everywhere to help everyone at once, much as he would like to.
25:53 ''who are they?'' They are ''Easterlings''. They are a race of evil Men that comes from a land called Rhûn, east of Mordor. We don't see or hear much of Easterlings in this movie, there's some scenes in Return of the King with Easterlings fighting in the war, but nothing more. There's tons of lore about them tho, so check that out if you're interested, but they're basically Men that got corrupted by Melkor (Morgoth) in the first age.
42:31 Sauron invaded the Kingdom of Harad and subjugated them, same thing he did to the Kingdom of Rhun(the guys in golden armor you saw entering the black gate)
Hardly anyone notes that while Aragorn and Legolas ran for three days and three nights straight in moderately light armour, Gimli did the same while wearing a full mail haberk, coif, helmet, plate armour, three battleaxes and several knives
Maple, is it? This is the best reaction I have seen of the LotR series that I can remember!!!! Excellent job and so pure of a reaction!!! Looking forward to the other parts and the final movie. I hope to also see you do The Hobbit series as well!!!!! Thank you, sweetie!!! 💛⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Props to the camera man jumping after Gandalf and the Balrog so he can film the fight from the best angle!
Hahaha
😂 RIP
His legacy forever lives on with this film. His sacrifice was not in vain.
Get that man a raise
"Remember, pain is temporary; film is forever." - Peter Jackson
Love the predetermined defense against the Viggo’s toe comments!
lol
I've only broken something in that area of the body once, and I cringe every time I see that scene coming. Always got the sympathy pains
THIS!
you're the first reactor I've seen who picked up on Frodo seeing his future in gollum, and thus why he gives him so many chances. If gollum can be saved, then so can Frodo.
I always say that Frodo desperately needs Gollum to be 'good', because he needs to think he himself can still be good with/after the ring. And Sam desperately needs Gollum to be 'evil', because he needs to think this evil is not about the ring poisoning Frodo, but an innate characteristic.
I've seen other reactors recognize the same thing, but...
"Lysander, let me tell you something, you couldn't in a million years be like them even if you was to work at it.""
Dr. Caldwell Whitlock to Prince Lysander Collins of Sparta, regarding the terrorist army they face, in "Prince of Sparta"
Every time I see the scenes where Sam and Frodo argue over Gollum/Smeagol the schizophrenic, I remember Dr Whitlock's words and wish Sam would use them with Frodo, to give him the same encouragement. Knowing Smeagol's backstory, it should be plain to everyone that Frodo couldn't be like Smeagol in a million years... even if he worked at it.
@@Hiraghm Quite true. Smeagol wasn't a particularly good person even before the Ring. Frodo is *very* good. Though I don't think Smeagol is schizophrenic. He shows more signs of disassociative personality disorder.
@@n4l9bx Those points were good AF!
@@brigidtheirish correct. I'm not sure where the idea comes from that being schizophrenic means you have different personalities. It's got nothing to do with split personalities. It's just hearing voices and seeing things that aren't there. They don't take on the personalities of the voices they hear. Somehow being 'schizo' became a way of describing someone who's personality switches.
Bernard Hill's performance as Theoden in the scene at his son's tomb was absolutely heartbreaking. And the whole "possessed by Saruman" aspect was a change from the books that I think works very well in this medium. In the books, Theoden was basically just in a funk, he'd had Wormtongue whispering in his ear and influencing him on Saruman's behalf. But I don't think that would have played very well in a movie. It needed a visual element so you could see Theoden becoming his old self again. It also helped that the visual effects of Theoden being restored were exquisitely done.
They did that scene four times, each one with Bernard Hill wearing different levels of make up and effects. They then edited them all together to show a more genuine transition from weak to strong
@@Rytonic69 You say that... but I think they actually put a spell on him and then undid it because my brain cannot fathom how clean that transition is. You can't just stitch and fade together 4 separate takes and keep it looking so smooth and consistent between transitions. LIKE DANG.
What makes Gandalf and Théoden's conversation after Théodred's burial even sadder to me is that That One Line wasn't originally in the script. Bernard Hill asked for it to be included because it was something a bereaved parent told him once and it stuck in his mind. And like Théoden, Bernard has only one child: his son, Gabriel, was actually even with him on set when these scenes were being filmed. So when he breaks down after saying "No parent should have to bury their child," it's both Théoden grieving for his son and Bernard responding to that grief as a father himself. Someday I may be able to watch that scene without tearing up, but today wasn't that day.
Bernard said that when he finally heard cut and looked up that the entire crew was also crying. Such a talent, and such a sad moment.
A day may come when we will not weep, but it is not this day
@@OG_Sanctio Hahaha truueeeee
Yeah, probably never for me.
People sleep on how Bernard killed it in these
It is so satisfying seeing someone unfamiliar with the Lord of the rings watching it for the first time! Been waiting for this all week 😊
Yh it's so good to see 😎
It is always a treat to see it
Samee
We watched it in film class, just the fellowship, but anyways, and there were many who didn't know the films. Watching them at Gandalf's death made my day.
Especially when they choose to watch the Extended Editions :)
Dunlending: We will die for Saruman!
Her: Why? WHY?
Saruman trying to give exposition through a speech at the exact same time: The Horse-Men took your lands! They drove your people into the hills!
A lot of reactors think Gollum is being overly dramatic when he complains about the rope burning him, but the truth is that he's not. Because he was under the influence of the One Ring for so long, slowly being corrupted by it, anything elven-made disagrees with him. This includes the rope burning him, and the lembas bread tasting terrible and burning his mouth. He's basically developed almost an allergy to anything elvish as elves are so pure.
25:40 They are Easterlings, men from the nation of Rhûn who have fallen under the sway of Sauron after being at war with Gondor for many centuries.
Personally I have no idea why some many people are obsessed with the 'Viggo Mortensen broke his toe' factoid. There are plenty of much more interesting stories from behind the scenes of the production of these movies, like Gimli's actor, John Rhys-Davies, being allergic to the glue they used for his facial prosthetics, leaving him with a painfully swollen face for most of his time on the production.
Also, something that I think is worth noting is that when Háma, the doorward of Meduseld, lets Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas in to see Théoden he's fully aware that Gandalf's staff isn't just a walking stick. He realizes what Gandalf is doing and goes along with it. He's loyal and dutiful to his orders, so has to take their weapons, but like everyone else at the court of Rohan he wants Grima's hold over Théoden to come to an end. Gandalf knows this, as he's visited Meduseld many times before and has been greeted by Háma at the door each time. He knows what his values are, and that he can be trusted to go along with the 'walking stick' ruse.
Mind blown about the Hama fact
Yeah. I love Hama's facial expression after the walking stick line - it's like, "I know you're bullshitting me right now, but fuck it, I'm not gonna stop you"
The acting is brilliant in the entire trilogy. Both the casting and acting done at top-tier levels, but I feel like it doesn't get the credit it deserves because it is an Adventure Fantasy film and is often more regarded for its grand scope & scale. Acting is most definitely the most underrated element of this film series.
Kinda agreed. And to me, Sean Bean and Bernard Hill's portrayal is when this element shines the most.
I mean, we all love snarky wisdom of Sir Ian McKellen's Gandalf, groundbreaking performance of Andy Serkis as Gollum, badassery and dedication of Viggo Mortensen and absolute friendship goals Sean Astin has shown in his Sam role among many others... but multilayered Boromir and King Theoden transcend them all (especially in Extended Editions). Just imho:)
@@VladissimoTheMocker I don’t think anyone tops Serkis. Between his incredible acting skill and his insane commitment to the role, he will always be the highlight to me.
These movies dominated oscars and were never beaten in that regard. 17 oscars total 30 nominations I wouldn't say the trilogy being fantasy had anything to do with acting being underrated rather than the movies didn't really focus on one character too much.
Everything is brilliant about these movies. Every single member of the cast and crew gave it 100% for literal years of development. From the director to the costume designers, to the score and actors and the two guys making REAL chainmail in a shed for 500 days... EVERYBODY GAVE IT THEIR ALL
For those curious the funeral song is sung in a language called "Old English" very similar to Old Norse in fact the 2 could communicate easily with each other. Both cultures were huge inspirations for LOTR here are the lyrics translated
Now dear Théodred lies in darkness,
most loyal of fighters.
The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior;
nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup,
nor good hawk swing through the hall,
nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard.
An evil death has set forth the noble warrior
A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld
That noble cousin, who always held me dear
Now is held in darkness, enclosed.
Tremendous lyric, didn't know it
That's really poignant, thanks for sharing. I hadn't seen that translation until now.
I knew that "Where now is the horse and the Rider" was an Old English poem that Tolkien had translated (or used as inspiration) and set to the meter and rhyme that it is in the novels.
@@garmisra7841 I always find it a bit funny that the Rohrim speak Old English sometimes but are heavily based off of the Norse.....they are pretty much horse Vikings lol....
that makes a lot more sense. i thought it was in-lore rhohirrim, but old english makes sense too
@@VergilArcanis he really only fleshed out elvish and dwarfish? could be wrong on that though
The "no parent should have to bury their child" kills me every time. Cant hold in those tears.
The exorcism of Theoden is one of my favorite moments in all the films. Beautifully performed
Yeah Gandalf does premium dress-reveals ^^
Underappreciated effect.
Actually within my top 10 moments, there are many rather quiet instances:
there is the Nazghul flying over the marshes -- and you know that somewhere down there a two hobbits and a corrupted hobbit-like creature are cowering in a hedge of some sort -- the Wraith can't even see the same way we do, but he senses them and the whole enterprise is in total danger of failure for the first time after Sam and Frodo have left the Fllowship -- it's a strong picture of helplessness versus cluelessness, because the Nazghul does not know where to even begin searching that massive swamp and yet if he did find the, the quest would be lost.
then we have Gandalf sitting in an allyway in Minas Tirith, waiting for action, pondering over something -- and it might be anything, he might be sleeping for all we know -- it's a whisp of piece, light and quiet in a city at the brink of war.
and then Merry and Pippin in Fangorn perhaps, just because it reminds me of Bombadil and because they incorporateted at least the old willow-man.
I say it every time, but letting Gríma go was the only decision that makes sense here. A major theme in the Lord of the Rings is showing mercy to people who don't deserve it, and besides nothing Gríma can tell Saruman can change what happens next. Rohan has to run for Helm's Deep in order to withstand Isengard's assault because Edoras isn't a fortress, and Saruman likely already knew about the weakness in the walls given how he's a few gazillion years old. The only news he brings is Aragorn being the heir of Isildur, and Saruman admits it changes nothing. Besides, even the wisest cannot see all ends.
Yes. A lot of commenters don't understand this. There was really nothing useful Grima could tell Saruman that he didn't already know. He's got birds spying for him. And a palantir.
Agreed, my only gripe is with the portrayal in the film that Theoden wanted to kill Grima and Aragorn physically restraining him. From what I remember in the book it was always Theoden who wanted to only banish him and not kill him. Unless I am remembering incorrectly? Also, Aragorn in the book seem to be a bit better at reading the room and would never physically restrain a King like that? even though he is a rightful king himself, it just felt weird...
Yes, it’s always a bit disturbing to me when people just want him killed outright. One of the major themes in the story is about showing pity to those who don’t deserve it. In the end of the books and films, it’s Grima who takes out Saruman. Evil begets evil.
@@PhillyEastSide I think you’re right re: Theoden and Aragorn.
@@NikolasAmodeo It's because that's what media has conditioned most of us to feel. Moments like this, where mercy is shown to the wrongdoer, are very rarely seen in media. It's almost always framed as a righteous revenge to kill them, so people get desensitized to it, and begin to condone it. That's why I like this scene so much. It cuts through that cultural desensitization and points out that killing isn't righteous or just. Of course, most people still don't realize that from the scene, but I still really appreciate that about it.
Fun fact: Brad Dourif the actor who plays the creepy Grima Wormtongue is the voice of Chucky. Just another superb actor that has graced this movie trilogy.
Billy B-B-Bibbit
@@stevenspringer1599 they always go for Chucky and never Cuckoo’s Nest :(
Both are iconic. Brad is a treasure.
@@alikat89 a truly underrated gem. Watching him verbally go toe to toe with George C Scott is one of my favorite ways to bring in the Halloween season.
@@alikat89 He's also excelent as doc Cochran in Deadwood
the rope that came down in Sam's hands was of Elvish make & was specially woven & enchanted to untie itself but only when actually needed. it was no longer needed to climb down so it fell down at Sam's tug. same as the cloak that hid Frodo & Sam at the Black Gate was enchanted to hide its wearer. also the reason why the rope burned Gollum's neck.
Yes. Gollum is so corrupted that the purity of elvish things hurts him. The rope, and the elvish lembas bread.
I watched these like a million times, never thought thats why it burned his neck. Makes perfect sense.
@@DigitalDNA & why the Lembas turned to ash in his mouth; its virtues became vices to him.
@@scalefree I didn't realize it turned to ash. He just said it tried to choke him, im assuming by being dry.
@@DigitalDNA didn't mean to imply that literally just metaphorically. "turning to ashes in his mouth" is a common figure of speech is all I meant.
“A unicorn?! … No. Maple. It’s just a horse.” The way I just lost it.
To be fair...Shadowfax is hardly JUST a horse...
@@kateiannacone2698 Lord of horse... is still horse.....but it's LORD
"no parent should have to bury their child" had me crying too
“Come on Strider, give me some context”
I don’t know why I find that so amusing and relatable, but I do 😅🤣
Haha, yes!
Strider: Yes m'lady!
A person's character can be measured by how many tears one sheds whilst watching LOTR. And although this mostly counts for The Return of the King, Maple cried quite a few times already, second part included. So yeah, Maple, you truly are a magnificent person :)
Well gee guess I'm just a cold hearted piece of crap then =_= Thanks
My measuring stick has always been how they react to Mr Jingles :-D
The shocking thought of people not reacting exactly the same as yourself 0.O
@@n4l9bx If someone is unable to appreciate not only determination and will power, but also courage, friendship and love ... Yeah, I shudder at the thought of that.
@@rmroch Then that's the word you should have used. Not crying.
My friends and I have a tradition of marathoning all 3 extended editions on New Year’s Day and these reaction vids got me excited to watch. I love the fresh perspective
My wife and I do the same on Christmas day. Cheers to you and your mates!
Does the New Years tradition include timing the Two Towers so that the moment the clock strikes midnight, Théoden King goes, "So... it begins...."?
Marathon's for xmas or new years' are the best. Good food, good wine, burning candles. That's how I do it, every year. I have included watching the hobbit trilogy every year around mid november
I read somewhere that Ian Mckellan preferred playing Gandalf the Grey rather than Gandalf the White because he was more in touch with his friends and human. That's one of the reasons I appreciate The Hobbit trilogy. It's three more movies of him playing the version of the character he liked.
You comparing Gandalf's instruction to "at first light on the fifth day..." and Dory's "P Sherman 42 Wallaby Way Sydney" was just the cutest thing..
That shit had me laughing lol
During the scene where Gollum is thrashing around in the stream trying to catch the fish, it had snowed in that location the night before. The production crew had to bring in giant fans, heaters and even fire hoses to wash the snow away for the shot (you can still see some of it in the bushes). The water was so cold, that Andy Serkis wearing his mo-cap suit for Gollum, nearly developed hypothermia. They had to position people at the edge of the stream to stop Andy before he was carried over the waterfalls because his limbs were too cold for him to stop himself.
The reason for the change in Gandalf/a little background: Thousands of years ago, when Sauron’s influence started to spread in Middle Earth, a number of immortal spirits called the Maiar were sent to Middle Earth to contest his will. They took form of men and each Wizard took on a specific role .eg. Saruman the White to be a wise leader of the Wizards, Gandalf the Grey to be a wandering counsellor to the people of Middle Earth. Since Saruman betrayed his role, Gandalf was sent back to be his replacement, thus the change in appearance and personality.
The Balrogs are also Maiar who joined forces with Morgoth; Saurons previous master.
I hope she eventually gets to meet Radagast the Brown. 🤓
tl;dr for the uninitiated: wizards = angels.
@@meanderingmarley3910 I just hope she doesn't have a phobia for birds.
@@jeffburnham6611 What's that saying? "A bird in the hat, is worth two in the bush?" 🤔
Before you mentioned the Balrog I thought you might have confused the term Maiar with the term Istari.
The Istari being the Wizards, sent to look ater the peoples of Middle earth by the Valar on Tarniquetil and Maiar being a form of other-worldly being just outranked by the valar (and Morgoth).
As mentioned by Ruto here, the Maiar can be understood as angels in a way, whilst the valar are arch-angels if you want. Morgoth is the fallen arch-angel, the great evil from which all evil stems in the lore of middle-earth (and its world, arda).
The Istari (Wizards) and the Balrog are no the only Maiar however to dwell in the world, for Sauron too is a Maiar in this world.
As you might have acknowledged, the powers of the Maiar can vary greatly.
Regarding that scene with Merry and Pippen just before they got swallowed by tree roots: They were drinking "Ent draughts". Which made them grow. Eventually, they both became over 4' tall; giants by hobbit standards.
I love how in every single LOTR reaction someone has to explain that Viggo Mortensen broke his toes kicking the helmet xD IT has become a trope at this point and a joke! xD
yeah i was hoping to get ahead of the commenters lol
The thing that blows my mind is that Viggo's IRL near-death experience filming the sequence where he's floating down the river. Apparently the current pulled him under during one of the takes, and he became trapped under a rock and he required rescue.
I came looking for the broken toe comment.
@@Diegesis i really appreciated that part but then again it would've been an extra 20% comments for the algorithm.
@@prettyokandy230 yeah i probably shot myself in the toe by dissuading 50 comments about toes. lesson for next movie lol
In the scene where Aragorn kicks the helmet, the actor actually kicked it so hard that he actually went blind in one eye.
Haha
lol
Wow, talk about occupational hazard
He actually broke 2 of his toes during that kick of that helmet
@@brysonfreeman7226 Yes we all know that because in every reaction video someone always has to drop a comment to tell everyone. I was making fun of that. But this was 2 years ago, we've all moved on since then.
When Gandalf said "300 lifetimes of men I've walked this earth" He means how old he is. Gandalf is stated in the books to be over 2000 years old in his Physical form, as the Wizards/the Istari like Gandalf, Saruman and some others are basically the middle earths version of Angels by J.R.R Tolkien.
I think it's not even that, 2000 years is probably only the time he literally spent in Middle eath. I mean he was sent there by the valar, but he's probably been around since before the beginning of time.
@@sarumanork-orphanage5612 yeah i know, why i said physical form.
His spiritual is estimated to be around 24000 xd
@@TheRealRealMClovin That's cool ton know!
I mean I never bothered to calculate such things, I guess confused with shire reckoning, so don't ask me to use the wierd 1 day = 12 years/ 10 years or what it was -- Tolkien kinda went a bit overboard with that ^^
I mean if peope want to research that, good for them, I'll even listen to the facts when they're out, it is interesting after all, it really is.
That being said, I get a mindf*ck when stuff happens in a chronological order even before the beginning of time, I mean it could mean that time was just not measured before, but something tells me Tolkien really wanted time to not hav been nvented until the tool light-poles were up (I forgott the names).
What I do is I try to get a sense of what happens before what. That's challenge enough fo me.
I mean - as an example - I was looking at this the other day with Bombadil (he was there before Morgoth came to the world, or came back to the world, he was there when the first drop fell (before Ulmo?) and before paths were made (Elvish paths or human paths?).
Like- for some reason, there probably was no light when the valar and all were shaping the world, Morgoth might have burnt a few places down, but then they put the two beams up with the lights on thm, they get knocked down, eventually there's stars and then also the two trees that Yavanna Kementari grew and then these get poisoned, then we have the silmaril and I guess some time later the moon and sun are made with Earendil taking a silmaril on his everlasting boat cruise...
From what I gather half of the Silmarillion happens in faint Starlight or the world is pitch black, which is funny to think about.
And yeah, so that's how I read it, and Gandalf must have been pretty f***ing old.
So 24000 years - why not?
It's completely beyond human understanding, it's longer than the third age by far and that's good for me ^^
"Release him, or I'll cut your throat."
Holy shit, Frodo
For real, it's like the first time we see Frodo be aggressive.
In the movies. In the books, Frodo was far more heroic and less useless.
@@langdalepaul also in the book it's the first moment in which frodo is this aggressive and cruel,even Sam is surprised about it
@@langdalepaul Yes, but even in the books, Frodo isn't violent, and I like that. He never kills anyone, not even orcs. And I love that. It's great to see a story that sends the message that there's other ways to be heroic besides being a powerful warrior or wizard. I like to describe it as "quietly badass."
@@kateiannacone2698 That's an awesome way to describe it. It's interesting when you see that throughout the whole epic war, Frodo's fight is almost entirely internal. And impressively, he's able to endure the constant assault until they get to Mount Doom. I always admired his fight to maintain control of his mind and will.
@@kateiannacone2698 I didn't know he never killed anyone. Impressive. I need to read the books and Frodo was a bit more heroic true.
Yes yes yes no! Have I been waiting for this one? Yes. Am I excited beyond explanation? Yes. Did I contemplate contacting the channel due to my lack of patience? Yes. Am I going to wait to watch this in the morning due to the late hour here in London? NO! Let’s get our LOTR feels on! Thank you sir and madam!
It's 02:46 am in Würzburg Germany. Ooops.
Bernard Hill’s talk about losing his son might be my favorite acted scene of all time. We knew Theodred zero percent and Theoden for ten minutes and yet BAM instant sadness.
First time a I watch a reactor understand why Frodo is being nice to Smeagol.
Smeagol/Gollum is me dealing with my major depression every single day.
Same
TY Maple for watching this. I appreciate that you have become invested in the characters. Your reactions clearly show you are in their world and care. Please have tissues for part 3.
I love Faramir's speech about the fallen enemy, wondering about his motivations and whether he was really evil at heart. It gives immediate insight into the type of man he is.
Totally agree. it's a great bit in the film
I like that they included it from the book, but it was actually Frodo's thought after witnessing his first man vs man combat.
edit: Or maybe it was Sam's... It's been a few years since I last read it
@@gregall2178 It was Sam's, but it fits Faramir's character pretty well too
That monologue is one of my favorite parts about the whole trilogy, it's one of those times where it feels like the author is directly speaking to you. I love the movies but I think it's a little questionable how often they associate glory with warfare, whereas the books are filled with moments of quiet contemplation like that speech
That was pretty funny, the first time I seen this movie and he says an elf a man and a dwarf, I though it sounded like a bar joke.
It’s also pretty funny that you put the part where he kicks the helmet and actually broke his foot. Usually the comments have a ton of posts about it. You have crushed those people hopes waiting for that particular moment 😂. Guess those people will have to think of something else to post.
Haha i wonder if i did myself a disservice "engagement" wise by not leaving room for people to flood the video with that comment
Frodo is affected more because he was stabbed by the Morgul blade on Weathertop. Plus the ring is getting more powerful the closer they get to Mordor. Basically, he's screwed.
You can actually see through-out the films how Frodo initially starts off being open with Sam about the ring, whenever Sam asks him how he's coping with it, but as the films go on you slowly start to see Frodo's answers becoming shorter, and he starts becoming less open, and more withdrawn, as he spirals downwards.
Sam asks him if the rings hurting him and he replies honestly that it's getting heavier, cut to return of the king and any mention of the ring is met with immediate suspicion and distrust
A little fun fact when Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas was running in the beginning of this movie, all three of the actors was injured. Viggo (Aragorn) had two broken toes from kicking the helmet, Brett Beattie (who was Gimli's stunt double) had a dislocated knee, and Orlando (Legolas) had a broken rib from falling off a horse.
25:55
Fun fact:
The cloaks the elves gave them in the first movie are enchanted and have the ability of camouflage. You can see that they perfectly mimic any stones, grass or trees that are nearby.
One of the things I like about the LotR trilogy is the horror elements. The director Peter Jackson was known for producing B-movie horror films in his early career and it definitely shows.
"Everything in this movie is so well thought out..." The movie is based on the books. In my opinion the greatest trilogy ever rendered in film. And it's been awesome watching it through your eyes!!
Maple your wonder and amazement at the opening scene for "the Two Towers" is simply infectious. Gandalf's fall in the chasm of Moria and subsequent battle with the dreaded Balrog to me is one of the best cold openings to a movie I have ever seen. To see your face and how you couldn't comprehend what was happening at first made it so special and endearing. Your reactions are really special and I hope to see you react to some of the great movie classics. Keep up the great work.
When the flag blows away as the group approaches edoras it was entirely coincidental. It was really windy that day and blew away one of the flags and they happened to catch it on camera.
Theodred's horse Brego is named for the second king of Rohan. King Brego built the golden hall of Meduseld. His eldest son Baldor vowed to walk "the Paths of the Dead" and was never seen again. Brego died of grief. Viggo Mortensen fell in love with Uraeus, who played Brego, and bought him when the movie was finished.
There are only three ways into Mordor:
1. The Black Gate. No way to get in there without being caught, even with those elvish cloaks.
2. Go all the way around the mountains and come in from the east or south, and then get all the way back in to Mount Doom. That would take a LOT of time, hundreds of miles, dangerous all the way, with limited food, and more time for the ring to corrupt Frodo's mind.
3. The pass of Cirith Ungol, where Smeagol is taking them. Still dangerous, but the only way in with any hope of staying hidden.
Let's face it: there's no safe way into Hell.
Gandalf definitely did come back more powerful. There are many opinions on this, but I subscribe to the opinion that Gandalf returns as more Maiar than Istari. The Istari were what the 5 wizards were called when they were sent to Middle earth, but are actually angelic beings called Maiar (Same as Sauron). Their power was greatly reduced, much of their memory of their former lives were lost, and they were given certain rules regarding how much of their power they could use directly as well as they could not tell anyone who they actually were.
This is why it was so significant what Gandalf did in the mines of Moria. When he confronts the Balrog, who was also a corrupted Maiar, he says, "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass." He is basically proclaiming himself to be a Maiar to the Balrog, letting the Balrog know it had come face to face with another being who had the power to confront it.
After being sent back and Gandalf the White, he starts to directly use his powers much more and even tells Pippin the books that he is the most dangerous being Pippin will likely come across unless he were to be taken to the Dark Lord himself.
Well you've read up to the lore, I had forgotten, that their powers had been reduced. It comes back to me now that you tell me ^^
I would like to point out that the singular of Maiar is Maia. Good summary otherwise.
@@sailiealquadacil1284 thanks I wasn't sure anymore ^^
Thing is, the Witch-king of Angmar was just as powerful as Gandalf the White for shattering his staff with no effort, despite the fact that Gandalf couldn't distinguish which of the Nazgul were more powerful in the books.
@@AdderTude What?! The Witch King didn't shatter Gandalf's staff in the books. That was something Jackson added to the movies to make the Witch King seem more powerful than Gandalf, but it is not the case. In fact, that's one of the worst pieces of adaptation in the movies.
In the book it’s Sam who sees the dead Haradrim and ponders over wether he fights because he is evil or because he is forced to. In the Dead Marshes Gollum hints at trying to have eaten the dead warriors who he sees in the waters but cannot reach. Gandalf is indeed brought back enhanced, as Saruman should have been (as an emissary to bring the people to fight against Sauron). In the book he says there is no being in Middle-earth mightier than him save Sauron.
First time I think I've heard Gollum referred to as helpless in any context.
Ents weren't described as quite as tree-like as they looked in the movies but they still did a fantastic job with them in the movies. I love the March of the Ents.
Edoras set is something similar to genius :) I think their inspiration for Meduseld were the description of Heoroth, king's hall from "Beowulf" poem and the excavations of pre-viking's halls from 5-6th century from Denmark. The gold ornamentations on the main gate and elswhere on the hall - it seems to me that they are mostly in two vikings age styles - Ringelike style and Urnes style from 11-12th century. The helmets are similar to "vandals type" helmets and their ornaments similar to Sutton Hoo burial helmet (Anglosaxon king burial) ornaments but also in all of Rohan costumes and swords and even in tapestries in the room where Theodred died you can see much of La Tene (celtic) style and also the tapestries are based on one or two famous Irish illuminated books of early medieval age. The ornaments of robes and tents are mostly of celtic origin I guess. The twin horse heads above the roof of the hall - these are Skinfaxi and Hrynfaxi, Winterfax and Frozenfax two viking deities depicted as twin horses which drive the chariot of the Sun and were depicted on vikings architecture as protectors of home. :)
Theoden's transformation is one of the best executed scenes in cinema
I saw the first movie and thought it was alright, didn't get some it, although I had a friend who was an expert to guide me. Then I saw this...and completely fell in love with the series forever and it all came together. By the time the Return of the King was released I was a full blown fan, one of the greatest cinematic experiences ever.
Gandalf is like an angel, after defeating the Balrog and losing his corporal form, he was sent back with a promotion, to replace Sarumane.
Bernard Hill acting so good as King Theoden.
By the way they are fellbeasts not dragons Maple. If you wanna see a real dragon watch Hobbit series after this :)
I really wish he got to do more work as Théoden, because his internal struggle about feeling that he is a lesser king, who has only held back the line of kings, and how he's desperate to prove himself, not only to his people but also to himself. The movie touches on it but I really wish they could have gone deeper into it, it's also I think one of the reasons he is so hostile to Aragorn, a guy who is a proven leader, who can get a man to follow him to the death in 10 minutes because he's just that exceptional
@@MasterIceyy Thanks for comment. I agreed first part of it. But I’m sure Theoden had no bad feelings to Aragorn who rode to war with his grandfather :)
@@cendererol not necessarily bad feelings that was probably bad wording, but it's more like Aragorn just helps bring out Theorems insecurity even more
They looked far and wide for someone to voice Treebeard. In the end they didn't have to hire anyone new as they went with John Rhys-Davies (who also plays Gimli).
Thanks, Maple! I was looking for ways to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the release of the first LOTR movie and what could be better than this? Can't wait for the next installment!
These movies truly are treasures, and it's so fun to watch them with someone who isn't already familiar with the story.
i absolutely love how invested you are, i can tell that you really really like/feel the movie. Awesome reaction!
Your face during the Gandalf-Balrog fight is mine every single time I watch it! The choir at the end makes it such an epic scene. More to come! Looking forward to seeing you enjoy them :)
The winged creatures that the Nazgul ride are not dragons. They're called Fell Beasts.
that's true but fell beast just means foul beast... its not the actual name per say its just how they were described
their characteristics most closely resemble a wyvern from mythology
@@vkdeen7570 i always saw them more as vultures with bat wings
Watching 2 towers for the 100th time (give or take), I am really appreciating the tragic irony that if Denethor had kept Boromir at home he may ("MAY") have been better able to defend Osgiliath & Minas Tirith AND keep Dad on the straight and narrow.
But Faramir absolutely would have been better equipped to resist the ring, defend Frodo and assist the mission to Mordor.
It's just so great watching first time reactions to this epic trilogy after all the years 😍🧡... The battle of Helm's Deep is still one of the greatest battles seen in movies 🔥.
Your reactions are amongst the best and I love it that you don't fake emotions 🤩👍!
As a would-be (currently soon-to-be) father who has experienced two miscarriages with his wife, Theoden's breakdown at his son's tomb hits too close to home. Maple's reaction is my go to when I need healing and hope in grief.
"They can smell man-flesh from a day away?" Apparently. Note also that there's only one man, and when the Uruk says, "man-flesh," Merry and Pippin whisper, "Aragorn." So apparently Aragorn is well-known to be pretty ripe.
I assume it's the Rohirrim that they smell. After all, those are the ones who come and fight them.
It might be because hes one of the last of the blood of the Dunedain, a sort of closer to elf race of men gifted with long life and a certain nobility. It's why Aragorn is actually like 80 in LotR
Some of the orcs are able to do that, but not all. In the books, the orc patrol that sets out after Frodo and Sam from Cirith Ungol after the rescue (the Nazgul bring a new garrison to the tower), one of them has such a keen nose that he's used like a blood-hound by the other one.
I just think it's funny because the first person Merry and Pippin think of is Aragorn. They didn't know Aragorn was after them. They didn't know whether there was anyone else around. The uruk says he smells a guy and the first thing they think of is that it's gotta be Aragorn. Can't be anyone else. "We've smelled other men, but only Aragorn packs that kind of punch to the nostrils."
I also think it's funny that as soon as the one uruk says, "man-flesh", the other uruk looks up like he's going to see someone flying overhead.
@@jimpemberton Yeah, I always thought that was funny, too. Like looking up improves your sense of smell.
Eomer and his Rohirrim were closer, so it's more likely them that they smelled. Did they not also smell the horses?
The wizards were meant to be good, so Saruman turning evil gives Gandalf the chance to return as the "good Saruman". That is the short version. I'm really impressed by how many things you seem to notice while watching for the first time.
Reading comments about how you beat commenters to the... punch regarding Aragorn's field goal attempt (and perhaps depriving your great channel of more comments to help the traffic), allow me to point out that Viggo Mortensen actually broke a couple of toes when he kicked that helmet. 😉 Can't wait for Maple's reaction to the rest of this one and then RoTK.
Aragorn kicks the helmet:
"DiD yOu KnOw?!"
yeah i was hoping to get ahead of the commenters
Fun fact: In the scene where Gollum is trying to catch a fish, Andy Serkis actually jumped in an ice-cold river in the mocap suit and tried to catch a fish.
Gandalf was reborn as Gandalf the White - as in "The White Wizard". It's a title - a position of sorts. When he said he was Saruman, he meant, he was taking over Saruman's title of The White Wizard. Gandalf was the Grey Wizard, and there is even a Brown Wizard and two Blue Wizards. He was there to "fire" Saruman, in effect.
Fun fact: the brown liquid the Uruk-hai poured down Merry’s throat was medicine. Orcish medicine and technology in Lotr is crude yet effective. In the books Merry also has a wound on his forehead that they smear an orcish healing salve on that heals the wound quickly but leaves him with an ugly scar for the rest of his life.
"We aint had nothin but maggoty bread for 3. Stinkin. Days!!" "YEEEEEAH" 😂😂 That part never fails to make me laugh
Hope you got your tissues with you this time, your reactions are the best.
In that group that captured Pippin and Merry were Uruk-hai from Isengard, Orcs from Mordor and Orcs from Moria. In the movie we only see Uruk-hai and Orcs from Mordor. Uruk-hai and orcs didn't know that those hobbit could have the ring. Saruman ordered the Uruk-hai to capture the hobbits, because he wanted the ring for himself and was planning to betray Sauron. So Uruk-hai and Orcs had beef with each other because Uruk-hai wanted to go to Isengard but Orcs wanted to go to Mordor, they all had a different mission, also they hated each other. In the books Pippin even told the Orc leader that they have the ring, which in the book started fight between those two groups.
After reading up the lore and rewatching the films again, you see Gandalf differently since you find out he's not just a typical old fantasy wizard, he's a Maiar, an angel of sorts, and that Saruman is a fallen angel in that regard.
I've always wondered how Orc's know what a menu is? Do they go out dining after a busy day of causing chaos?
19:43 Technically not a dragon, Tolkien's dragons are sentient, this is a 'fell beast'. Their horses were drowned,, but they survived, so they got an upgrade.
29:34 Saruman has promised Grima Wormtongue that the can have Eowyn. She hates Grima, but if the King commands it she must obey and Saruman controls the King, fortunately he has made no such order yet
Maple is my favorite and seeing her enjoy this classic makes me happy
So i joined the Patreon crew as i couldn't wait for the part two upload. Just finished the whole 4 hour reaction. TOP NOTCH GOLD PEOPLE! Do it...do it now! :D
Much appreciated! Really
Thank you for including the fact that all fans think of.
lol any time
13:04 Image Pippin's head on that pike 😆 LOL ..... FOOL OF A TOOK ! Hahaha
Ahhh yes! So Stoked to see Maple reacting to the Two Towers. Honestly is so cool to see someone go through the rollercoaster of emotions from their first watch and Maple does not disappoint with her reactions! Can't wait for the rest in this series!! :D
As a fun fact, there is an elf in the first age (lotr is in the third age) called Ecthellion that killed 4 balrogs in a battle, including their leader.
Based on his description, it sure seems that Gandalf left the world, which is normally something that only the souls of Men (including Hobbits) can do, and was sent back by the only being who could have worked this miracle, which would be Eru Ilúvatar (God). So Gandalf sort of went to "Heaven", spent a few eons of time from his perspective, and came back more powerful than before. That must be what he would describe to Pippin later at Minas Tirith--what the afterlife of Men is like.
Something interesting I noticed is that Gollum's pupils are constricted, whereas Smeagol's are more dilated. It's a subtle change that's fairly easy to miss without the camera cuts, but it's a small change from the books (Gollum's eyes were pale blue while reverting to green with Smeagol).
This was one of the most honest and refreshing reactions I've seen yet! Keep it up please
Lol I love watching these reactions where the reactor asks a question, which is then immediately answered by the character on screen
You're a very perceptive, effortlessly good reactor. Your reactions and your facial expressions are adorable, as well
"Three hundred lives of Men I've walked this earth, and now I have no time." Here, Gandalf is just saying he's lived an extremely long life, but now, despite that - as the world is on the brink - there's too much to do and not enough time to do it before the balance tips one way or the other. He's basically lamenting that, for all his time in the world, he can't be everywhere to help everyone at once, much as he would like to.
Why is it that everytime I watch Farimier capture frodo and Sam I get mad cuase they didn't get to eat those rabbits
"Everything in this movie is so well thought out"
I leave it with that.
25:53 ''who are they?'' They are ''Easterlings''. They are a race of evil Men that comes from a land called Rhûn, east of Mordor. We don't see or hear much of Easterlings in this movie, there's some scenes in Return of the King with Easterlings fighting in the war, but nothing more.
There's tons of lore about them tho, so check that out if you're interested, but they're basically Men that got corrupted by Melkor (Morgoth) in the first age.
Maple: you know what ? you're stinky. Uruk-hai: *suprised pikachu face*
Probably the best trilogy ever made, always enjoy people reacting to Tolkiens masterpiece
Whoever is editing this falls into every LOTR superfan cliche and I love it 😂
42:31 Sauron invaded the Kingdom of Harad and subjugated them, same thing he did to the Kingdom of Rhun(the guys in golden armor you saw entering the black gate)
"Very dangerous over short distances!"
*"Same dude!"*
Not gonna lie this movie has one of the best opening scenes. I get chills every time I see Gandalf fighting the Balrog
The way Aragorn tracks how Mary and Pippin escaped, that is a real skill, a real way to track that exact same way
Hardly anyone notes that while Aragorn and Legolas ran for three days and three nights straight in moderately light armour, Gimli did the same while wearing a full mail haberk, coif, helmet, plate armour, three battleaxes and several knives
Maple, is it? This is the best reaction I have seen of the LotR series that I can remember!!!! Excellent job and so pure of a reaction!!! Looking forward to the other parts and the final movie. I hope to also see you do The Hobbit series as well!!!!! Thank you, sweetie!!! 💛⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
YOU SHALL NOT PASS. Chills everytime.