Why Are Sephardi & Ashkenazi Weddings So Unique?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • While Ashkenazi and Sephardic weddings share the same basic framework, customs among the two groups vary widely. From the Shabbat Chatan to the mikvah (ritual immersion), and from henna parties to chuppah styles, each community celebrates this auspicious occasion with its own unique style.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:32 The Ashkenazi aufruf vs. the Sephardic Shabbat chatan
    01:35 The mikvah
    02:32 The Sephardic henna celebration
    03:56 Ashkenazi fasting vs. Sephardic feasting
    05:27 When to veil
    06:27 The chuppah
    07:02 Alone time in the yichud room
    07:56 Varying Jewish wedding customs across the world
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Комментарии • 109

  • @izzy4reel
    @izzy4reel 4 месяца назад +35

    I was raised Orthodox Ashkenazi Jewish and a lot of the Sephardi customs were new to me. I got emotional with how beautiful the traditions are.

  • @alphadog3384
    @alphadog3384 4 месяца назад +29

    Thanks for explaining so many varied customs within the Jewish diaspora.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 4 месяца назад +11

    Wow! I like the Sephardi traditions better! Especially the Henna party and the Bachelorette party in the Mikvah!

  • @yosefzanerva806
    @yosefzanerva806 4 месяца назад +13

    My family hails from Lithuania and my brother's wife is from Mumbai, India. We had a Haldi and a Henna, and it was amazing.

  • @MacLevistein
    @MacLevistein 4 месяца назад +19

    Awesome content! Shalom aleichem! ❤✡️

  • @DouglasMcLaurin
    @DouglasMcLaurin 4 месяца назад +15

    Love this! Will have a mixed wedding, combining the best!

  • @gloryakiepper7918
    @gloryakiepper7918 4 месяца назад +14

    Every clip you post teaces me something new and it keeps me fresh. The depth of your knowledge is truly outstanding. Thank you. Enjoy 2024.😊

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад +4

      Thank you! We are so glad to hear!

  • @clauuvm
    @clauuvm 3 месяца назад +5

    Thank you for this! I photographed many, many Jewish weddings in my carrier and always noticed different customs in each one, I never knew exactly why until this video.

  • @cherrymaryjanefernando9805
    @cherrymaryjanefernando9805 4 месяца назад +10

    We love your culture,from Philippines

  • @kathleenklein4231
    @kathleenklein4231 4 месяца назад +6

    So interesting to see the Sephardi customs, I love all the colors and gold!

  • @tashikoweinstein435
    @tashikoweinstein435 4 месяца назад +24

    Yep, you can definitely tell that Sephardic have Latin influences just by their wedding ceremony alone. We Latinos always find an excuse to party! In Colombia 🇨🇴 my mom's home country, they always throw a big goodbye party. In fact, goodbye parties are bigger than a Quinceanera in Colombia. For Colombians, "life is a party," and apparently, the same rule applies to Sephardic
    Henna Party?! I was told that Henna was Cultural Appropriation! Knowing that Henna is a Jewish Custom, I am getting Henna more often. Also, you didn't explain the separation between men and women during the wedding ceremony, a big deal among my tribe, and I hate it!

    • @borisvujasinovic1860
      @borisvujasinovic1860 4 месяца назад +4

      Sí, además parece como si no hubiera diferencia alguna entre el castellano y el ladino. En América Latina hay muchos judíos, también.

    • @timmysleftnutsack5075
      @timmysleftnutsack5075 Месяц назад

      Latinos were colonized by Spanish people. Spanish people murdered and drove out Jewish people. There’s no connection but oppression

  • @jasonoconner7863
    @jasonoconner7863 4 месяца назад +8

    So beautiful! Great video!

  • @mapleva
    @mapleva 3 месяца назад +2

    Well done! All customs are beautiful.

  • @fahmiizzuddinhalim5273
    @fahmiizzuddinhalim5273 4 месяца назад +3

    Beautiful video

  • @sondranewall4462
    @sondranewall4462 4 месяца назад +6

    My father was an orthodox Jew, and we did not fast before the wedding, neither did my sisters or brother. My mom died before I was married, when I was young, and my oldest sister walked me down the aisle. My father entertained my inlaws in his home the night before the wedding and my ex-husband was there for the party. My sister closest in age with me had the same party the night before the wedding; however, probably because my brother in laws family was from Birmingham, Alabama, and we lived in Newark, NJ, were the my sister and brother in law were married at a big fancy hall.

  • @Ilayshatz
    @Ilayshatz 4 месяца назад +2

    I am orthodox Ashkenazi but my moms family is italkim and morrocan so I grew up with Italian jewish food but still prayed in an Ashkenazi synagogue and live by the Ashkenazi way

  • @Mikewaulberg8989
    @Mikewaulberg8989 4 месяца назад +7

    my man why didnt you guys do anything for burkharans jews

  • @ryanmoore2447
    @ryanmoore2447 4 месяца назад +1

    Lmao your guys cut in clip game in one of the best on youtube hands down

  • @LuzzyStef
    @LuzzyStef 4 месяца назад +7

    Wow I did not know Sephardim do all that

  • @atarasarinanetanel8582
    @atarasarinanetanel8582 4 месяца назад +6

    My husband is sfardic (his father's family is part either Persians or bukarain or afgani ... His mom is Ashkenazi not sure I remember from where 😅😂) I'm Ashkenazi.both sides of my family more or less. ... plus both of us have Asperger's syndrome..... So some stuff was like that or this.... Hashem pulled a lot of jokes (did not have a lot of friends so I asked hashem to be my friend.... he is such a joker.....) like being locked out of the cheder yichud.... And because my dad worked with my husband in the same yeshiva
    ... My dad knew that my husband is very on time..... So my mom was taking to long with the pictures and my dad says stop taking extra pictures tzion is a stickler for Time. So in order for the groom not to see me before the right time my dad actually took off his jacket and made me wear it over my head backwards.... It ended up in the freaking wedding album....😅 Are all wedding photographers trigger happy camera people?😂

  • @user-wb3ji3yp3q
    @user-wb3ji3yp3q 4 месяца назад +15

    שלום מארץ אבותינו ישראל🇮🇱♥️🇮🇱

  • @cherrymaryjanefernando9805
    @cherrymaryjanefernando9805 4 месяца назад +2

    Majestic,

  • @James52172
    @James52172 4 месяца назад +5

    Curious about Ethiopian traditions

  • @motog4-75
    @motog4-75 4 месяца назад +3

    I love all jewish weddings

  • @MrPickledede
    @MrPickledede 4 месяца назад +17

    Yemenites are NOT sepharadi

    • @AlyThree3
      @AlyThree3 4 месяца назад +4

      Correct. But they do follow Judaism the same way, Under the spheradic teachings.

    • @master1941
      @master1941 4 месяца назад +1

      I am sepharadi and i went to a yemenite jewish wedding... almost alike.

    • @ddlyify
      @ddlyify 4 месяца назад

      True except for the Shami rite

    • @MrPickledede
      @MrPickledede 4 месяца назад

      @@ddlyify not sefardi. No Shami would ever call themselves Sefaradi

    • @AlyThree3
      @AlyThree3 4 месяца назад

      @@MrPickledede now I'm curious. What's the difference? My family is Sharabi and we follow the sphardic rules and have a sphardic rabbi. I do know in the past Yemenis separated themselves but is there a group that nowdays that still do?

  • @eddwincedeno5387
    @eddwincedeno5387 Месяц назад

    It's nice to see Sephardi customs represented, I feel so many people forget about Sephardi Jews so it's nice to see some representation

  • @gamermapper
    @gamermapper 19 дней назад +1

    Can you talk about the specific Edot and Minhag of Italian Jews (Italkim/Bene Roma)? It's a third secret group that very few people talk about. In fact even in Italy they aren't a majority.

  • @Jonathan-gi2ux
    @Jonathan-gi2ux 4 месяца назад +2

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 🤵 *Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jewish weddings have some major differences due to the diversity of Jewish traditions over time.*
    00:28 📅 *The Ashkenazi Aufruf happens before the wedding, while the Sephardi Shabbat Chatan is after. *
    01:26 🛁 *Ashkenazi brides have a private Mikveh, while Sephardi brides celebrate it as a festive pre-wedding party.*
    02:53 🎨 *Sephardi brides have elaborate henna parties, uncommon among Ashkenazi. *
    03:50 💍 *Sephardi henna customs vary between communities but often involve symbolic objects.*
    04:19 🍽 *Ashkenazi brides and grooms fast on their wedding day, while Sephardi feast.*
    05:45 👰‍♀️ *The Ashkenazi Bedeken veils the bride before the ceremony, Sephardi veil halfway through.*
    06:44 🤵‍♀️ *Ashkenazi use a Chuppah structure, Sephardi use a tallit canopy.*
    07:13 💏 *Ashkenazi couples go to a yichud room, Sephardi wait until the night's end.*
    08:11 💒 *Today, Sephardi and Ashkenazi weddings blend customs beautifully.*
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  • @Lee-pv5vz
    @Lee-pv5vz 4 месяца назад +8

    What about Ethiopia 🇪🇹Jewish widding?

  • @KiraHelenRose
    @KiraHelenRose 4 месяца назад +4

    I do wish you would more clearly differentiate true Sephardi (Spanish/Iberian) traditions from Mizrahi traditions. It makes it very hard to learn the differences between them when they are conflated together due to liturgical labels. Whenever I try to learn about Sephardim, I just get a lot of Mizrahi culture coming up in the results. It would be nice to see Sephardi traditions fully represented independently. They deserve their own recognition.
    I watched a film called The Governess, it is about a Sephardi Jewess in England in the 1840s. The traditions represented had a very Spanish and Mediterranean flair, but also were much more similar to Ashkenazi culture than to Mizrahi. I don’t know how accurate the portrayal is in the film though. If anyone has seen it and can tell me, I would really appreciate it. I know the woman who directed it is of Italian Sephardi background. So perhaps that is why. Perhaps the Italian Sephardic traditions and Spanish Sephardic traditions differ greatly? I know Italian Sephardi is also different from the Italkim culture. And the liturgy is different.
    It would be wonderful to dive into all of these things and be able to understand more of these differences.

  • @ryanmoore2447
    @ryanmoore2447 Месяц назад

    I was watching sopranos and it was the episode where some orthodox Jewish guy owns a hotel. His son in law worked there and the son inlaw and the persons daughter were having marriage issues and the son inlaw wouldn't divorce her unless he got 50percent of the hotel. they called it a get or ghet or khet something like that can you explain to me what that is?

  • @theworldisavampire3346
    @theworldisavampire3346 4 месяца назад +3

    What about Mizrahi Jews?

  • @Anat_Le
    @Anat_Le 4 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @RS-fn7wm
    @RS-fn7wm 4 месяца назад +1

    Sephardies "shabbat hatan" is ashkenazies "shevah brachos shabbos"- the shabbos AFTER the wedding.

  • @phillipmanzon5166
    @phillipmanzon5166 4 месяца назад +4

    Yemenites are not Sephardic, they are Mizrahi , they have not assimilated into Sephardic customs

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад

      Understood. We made a whole video about it here: ruclips.net/video/d5kqQB69SDY/видео.htmlsi=AeqbRSctifxPpsZS

  • @LaLaOhyah-co4wi
    @LaLaOhyah-co4wi 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm part Sephardic !

  • @TheDanLevy
    @TheDanLevy 4 месяца назад +1

    I had no idea it was ever considered intermarriage?!?! Does anyone know when that was? Would love to learn more about that & what the reasoning was

    • @heatherdeitchman1409
      @heatherdeitchman1409 4 месяца назад +2

      The traditions can be handled very differently even though the same concepts exist. The tunes sung for prayers, the foods for Passover, the clothing traditions, what is and is not permissible, etc. whatever the groom is, the wife takes on his traditions but she cannot take on anything less permissible than what she did originally.

    • @taltalim18
      @taltalim18 4 месяца назад +3

      Completely different customs and sometimes even halakhot. Different approach to Judaism for example for us traditional Sephardim and or Mizrahim more of an emphasis Is placed on the family being together for Shabbat/chagim and whereas by Ashkenazim if someone drives to their house the family may tell them to either sleep over or not to come and definitely won’t allow someone that drove on Shabbat to make kiddush. By us Sephardim and Mizrahim we try to encourage having the z’chut of the mitzvah and will still try to offer the male family member or friend that traveled on Shabbat to make the kiddush. The foods are also very different and this is especially prominent on Shabbat, chagim and even more so on Rosh Hashanah and Pesah when we have completely different minhagim such as most Sephardim and all Mizrahim eat rice and kitniyot on Pesah and use spices (whole spices not don’t require a special hekscher whereas Ashkenazim don’t eat rice/kitniyot and some won’t use any spices beyond salt & pepper or they buy toiletries kosher for Pesah which doesn’t apply to us Sephardim. Also, even within certain countries such as Greece the original Greek speaking Jews (Romaniotes) were looked down upon and considered lower class by the Sephardic Jews that came from Spain & Portugal and they didn’t typically marry until they came to the U.S. or Israel . So naturally between Sephardim/Mizrahim and Ashkenazim there are many different customs and depending on the environment each person grew up in and how traditional their family is it can definitely make the relationship that much more challenging.

    • @TheDanLevy
      @TheDanLevy 4 месяца назад +2

      @@heatherdeitchman1409 but none of that has changed since then lol. I grew up in an Ashkenazi Modern Orthodox family and have many Sephardi & Mizrachi friends so I'm not unfamiliar with the differences in traditions
      Halacha is the same, it's only Minhag that's different

    • @TheDanLevy
      @TheDanLevy 4 месяца назад +1

      @@taltalim18 as I replied to @heatherdeitchman1409 above, none of that stuff has changed since then! lol. I'm not unfamiliar with the differences, I grew up in an Ashkenazi Modern Orthodox family and have many Sephardi & Mizrachi friends
      I'm almost positive that all Halacha is the same, it's only Minhag that's different. And to say that you can't marry to a less strict Minhag isn't a thing as far as I know. I've never heard of people who don't get married because the girl's side doesn't eat Gebrochts but the guy's side does. You're saying this was once upon a time a thing?

    • @taltalim18
      @taltalim18 4 месяца назад

      @@TheDanLevy What is “gebrochts” 🤔 it’s sounds Yiddish but I speak Hebrew and or some Ladino but not Yiddish.
      There’s definitely a different mentality especially for Sephardim/Mizrahim that grew up in closed kehillot and when you marry you’re basically marrying into the family especially for us Sephardim and or Mizrahim. In the 1920’s/30’s many Sephardim that came to the states raised their children in Jewish communities that were primarily Ashkenazi until they started to build Sephardic/Romaniote Jewish organizations and beit knesset. Many of the children that had “assimilated” to traditional Jewish American (Ashkenazi) culture later learned in university and met and married Ashkenazim. In the past several years with the surge of interest in people learning about their Sephardic heritage and culture (those that grew up in mixed families) has there been more talk of the beauty and distinctiveness of our Sephardic culture which is very different and btw minhagim are many times approached almost as if they are halakhot.

  • @Chama-my5lw
    @Chama-my5lw Месяц назад

    I have Ashkenazi and Sephardic root

  • @cherrymaryjanefernando9805
    @cherrymaryjanefernando9805 4 месяца назад +1

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

  • @rock3tcatU233
    @rock3tcatU233 4 месяца назад +3

    The fez has nothing to do with Moroccan culture, we're Amazigh and this is not part of our attire.

    • @note4275
      @note4275 3 месяца назад

      The Fez is Turkish brought by the Ottoman Empire. It has zero to do with Moroccan tradition.

  • @wilburmay3602
    @wilburmay3602 4 месяца назад +5

    What is Igbo Jewish culture like? What is the history of Igbo Jewish life?

    • @rachel-po5rm
      @rachel-po5rm 4 месяца назад

      I can't copy and paste right now but look up igbo jewish and there should be a few videos on it

    • @wilburmay3602
      @wilburmay3602 4 месяца назад

      @@ib3691 I didn’t say anything about gays, I was talking about Igbo (Nigerian Jewish). I’m curious about Igbo/Nigerian Jewish culture and history.

    • @mhm6693
      @mhm6693 4 месяца назад

      ⁠​⁠@@ib3691 igbo Jews are Jews who live in Nigeria

    • @chanabayla1823
      @chanabayla1823 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ib3691homosexuality is a sin in every religion

    • @flurfityfloof1000
      @flurfityfloof1000 4 месяца назад +1

      Shavua tov! I believe this commenter was referring to the Igbo Jewish community of Nigeria, not the LGBTQ+ Jewish community​@@ib3691

  • @LeeLe412
    @LeeLe412 4 месяца назад

    You keep confusing Mizrachim with Sefaradim. Not the same thing

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад +1

      Is there a difference between Sephardic & Mizrachi Jews? ruclips.net/video/d5kqQB69SDY/видео.htmlsi=HDivfbPdin9-8Eok

    • @michaellewis5171
      @michaellewis5171 4 месяца назад +2

      They are different except, they have both spent the last 1300 years under Muslim domination - a domination heavily influenced by Arab ways - even in Babel or Tashkent or Tehran. They inhabited all of these areas before the destruction of the Temple 2 in 70 CE and in Babel, earlier, from the captivity in 586 BCE. They were all evicted after 1948 and most now live, not as "refugees", but as proud citizens, in Israel.

  • @adrianblake8876
    @adrianblake8876 4 месяца назад

    3:42, seven-wicked lamp... Isn't the ENTIRE jewish community supposed to have just ONE of those, ie. the golden one in the Jerusalem Temple!?

    • @bheemabachus5179
      @bheemabachus5179 4 месяца назад +5

      It is very common to have a personal menorah. We also don't have a temple right now, there's a big rock in the way lol

    • @adrianblake8876
      @adrianblake8876 4 месяца назад

      @@bheemabachus5179 First, no. The "personal" Menorah is a nine-wicked lamp, not a seven-wicked...
      Second, we may not have a Temple in Jerusalem, bet we DO have a Menorah waiting for it nearby nonetheless. Quite the work of art, if you ask me...

    • @bheemabachus5179
      @bheemabachus5179 4 месяца назад

      @adrianblake8876 Actually, the one for Chanukah and the seven armed one are both common.

  • @mahmoudelshayeb88
    @mahmoudelshayeb88 4 месяца назад +1

    I think you mentioned drinking
    Isn't drinking forbidden in Judaism?

    • @theunholyburger9338
      @theunholyburger9338 4 месяца назад +7

      No it's allowed

    • @mahmoudelshayeb88
      @mahmoudelshayeb88 4 месяца назад

      @theunholyburger9338 I thought that jews and muslems are alike, they don't eat pigs or drink alcohol

    • @user-zh6ec7fk1w
      @user-zh6ec7fk1w 4 месяца назад +8

      Islam forbids drinking, not Judaism

    • @MottyGlix
      @MottyGlix 4 месяца назад +3

      Drinking, _per se_ , is not forbidden in Judaism. Behaving in a coarse manner as a result of injudicious drinking is very much looked at with disgust, but drinking is permitted.

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад +7

      Great question! Drinking is actually not forbidden in Judaism - quite the contrary. In fact, wine is seen as a holy drink and is used for special events and holidays (not to mention the Sabbath every week).

  • @tadevokle
    @tadevokle 4 месяца назад

    Abraham sib* not siz.

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад

      Are you sure? Here's a source for siz: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/marriage-in-judaism

    • @tadevokle
      @tadevokle 4 месяца назад

      @@UNPACKED yes. the source is wrong, it's from the targum/Aramaic translation to Genesis 24:1. This is the passage that is read, Veabraham sib, 'al beyomin...
      ואברהם סיב על ביומין

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you @tadevokle !! That is most helpful

  • @darlenechadwick375
    @darlenechadwick375 4 месяца назад +2

    I’m a Judeo-Christian and have always been drawn to the Jewish Roots of my Faith in Yeshua/Jesus! I’m so thankful to you for sharing your History and Faith with us/ me!!! I was moved to tears thinking about the Celebration of the Wedding Covenant between the Branches of Jewish Faith and in view of my own Judeo-Christian beliefs that Yeshua is the Groom and the Church His Bride!!! It took me miles away & into the Tradition of being Married and Joined Forever to The King of Kings!!! I’m Awestruck with Wonderment & Breathless with a moving Expectation of Eternity!!! Thank you so much for this added enlightenment into who I/we am/are & Who’s I/we am/are!!! Please hear my heart, I only try to include others who choose Yeshua/ Jesus as their Savior, while also being aware that it’s a personal experience as well! Shalom Havarim!!!❤ from Texas

  • @aSnailCyclopsNamedSteve
    @aSnailCyclopsNamedSteve 4 месяца назад

    Off topic, but I don't know that you will ever read comments on a 7 month post on whiteness. You seem to approach the topic rationally, so I will point out one thing you seem to have missed so far. There were so many Jews in Eastern Europe because they were deliberately invited there by the young states in order to introduce certain skills like commerce that were lacking in the area. At the same time, these Jews were being persecuted in the West (or so we have been taught). All of that is perhaps fairly easily to access. What is not mentioned is at the same time, the local inhabitants went from being free men in tribes to serfs tied to a noble and his land. They had no opportunities for advancement and lived almost exclusively in the countryside as farmers. The invited Jews were given privileges, in order to attract them to Eastern Europe, which is very understandable. But being outside the system, they did not become serfs, lived in cities, and had opportunities for advancement, like an education, any education. Thus, tension naturally arose as why would the peasant serfs not be jealous of any group, indigenous or not, given better living conditions. But the situation was caused by the laws and rules imposed by the rulers, not by the Jews. I have no solutions, but that is part of the cause of the problem, as I see it.

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад +1

      Interesting ideas! You can learn more about Jews in the middle ages in our series on the Jewish Story: ruclips.net/p/PL-DNOnmKkUaYI_Cn_QcLXkJOwTfChhpoY

    • @aSnailCyclopsNamedSteve
      @aSnailCyclopsNamedSteve 4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks. Will do.@@UNPACKED

  • @svetlanac7275
    @svetlanac7275 2 дня назад

    God bless Israel and IDF!!!!!

  • @boxerfencer
    @boxerfencer 4 месяца назад

    This video confuses Sephardic with Mizrahic cultures. They're NOT the same.
    Sephardic Jews are southern European Jews via Spain, and Mizrahi Jews are Arabs, separated by vast geographic distances, despite some overlap after leaving Spain.
    Despite this overlap, there is no such thing as Yeminite Sephardim as the video suggests when refering to Yeminite cookies, because Spanish Jews didnt flee there and many other Arab areas.
    This conflation does nothing for the preservation of the Sephardic language and culture. Rather it actively promotes its elimination by obscurement, miscategorization, sentencing it to a state of irrelevance and eventually extinction.
    I hope the video creaters and host delete this video and properly represent the main Jewish groups in a new video. Because thats what this video purports to do but miserably fails at.
    @UC9R2cnpyyR0n3F8kpVb7Hxg the RUclipsr Ido who's handle is The Saluki identifies as as an Arab Jew and says nearly half of Israeli Jews are from Arab origin too, including this one female settler he interviewed a while back, who although she no longer identifies as Arab, she does so purely out of political reasons born out of a traumatic personal conflict with a house invasion incident.
    And there's the prominent scholar Avi Shlaim who also identifies as an Arab Jew. He has multiple interviews in RUclips if you want to look them up, probably the most known, "The forgotten history of Arab Jews".
    And if you listen to Dr. Shlomo Sand's talks you'll see that he's been saying for years that diaspora Jews are the product of conversions from local hosting populations.
    As for (real) ethnic Jews, if that's what the local Jews living in Palestine around 1948 were, they made up less than ~5% of the population, and so couldn't have contributed much to modern Jewry genetically.
    Curiously, I've come across material suggesting, Jewish Palestinians too were forced off their lands during the Nakba, which wouldn't surprise me since I've heard many Palestinians reference their Jewish grandparents.
    This shows there's a disconnect between ethnic Jewry and modern Jewry which stems primarily from religious identity, but which Zionism has bastardized into an ethnicity. In doing so, they've adopted the philosophy and language of a fascist German party.
    So its obvious what we have is identity politics going on, that isn't based on race. This much is confirmed in ancient geographies in which there is no distinction made between Arabs and Jews, and genetic studies showing Arabs are closely related to Jews, when comparing paternal lineage of diaspora Jews ... Which brings us to the issue of religious identity in that according to halaha, diaspora Jews, the main constituent in the Israeli population, aren't even Jews because a Jew has to have a Jewish mother. Since diaspora Jews are the product of Jewish men taking local nonjewish women an wives, this religiously disqualifies them as Jews, and qualifies them with the ethnicity of their mothers, be that Arab or Persian in the case of Mizrahic Jews.
    From ancient historians, we know of Arabs mixing into Jewish peoples from early on. For instance and not the earliest, the Jewish king Herod had both Edomite and Nabatean ancestry, both Arab peoples.
    The Idomeans or Edomites had been forced to convert and there's evidence of mass conversion of local populations in the book of Esther too. If you don't know your Esther, I'll find you the passage. Although these people weren't technically Arab, it goes to show ethnic Jews are extinct and that the dynamics between modern Mizrahic Jews and greater Arab identity is a difference without a distinction.
    I could go on and on but you're not paying me, and I really could get my PhD on this topic of identity politics.
    Hope this helps.

    • @UNPACKED
      @UNPACKED  4 месяца назад +1

      Is there a difference between Sephardic & Mizrachi Jews? ruclips.net/video/d5kqQB69SDY/видео.htmlsi=AeqbRSctifxPpsZS

    • @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci
      @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci 4 месяца назад +3

      There is no such thing as “Arab Jews”, other than Arabs who converted to Judaism. Arabs are people native to the Arabian peninsula. Mizrahi are Middle Eastern Jews whose people have always lived in Israel or other parts of the Levant, but are not “Arabs”. They’ve never identified as such and don’t speak Arabic as a first language.

    • @boxerfencer
      @boxerfencer 4 месяца назад

      @@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci I'd like to respond and dialogue but apparently the channel creators are censuring my comments.

    • @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci
      @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci 4 месяца назад

      @@boxerfencer They haven’t “censured” the long and rambling last one yet. Your comments are conspiratorial nonsense of the kind that’s been used to try to delegitimize Israel even before the ink dried on the UN agreement that ratified it as a nation in 1948. Still, I think you should be free to say them, nonsense as they are.

    • @boxerfencer
      @boxerfencer 4 месяца назад

      @@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci conspiratorial? I assure you, the history of Idomeans, Nabateans, and the ethnicity of Herod aren't conspiracy, nor is the book of Esther. I even offered references in Esther but you're not interested I see, as you've already judged my response as nonsense.
      Care to show me why my comments are nonsense? We all can make claims, but calling someone's solicited response nonsense isn't proof of anything, and it's disrespectful considering the time and effort I took to respond to you. It's not like I was obligated to do so.
      DNA tests aren't conspiratorial, either, nor is dr Sand, Dr. Avi Shlaim, The Saluki, nor Halaha, as far as what constitutes being Jewish. Nor is the fact that ancient historians didn't distinguish between Arabs and Jews, that Arabs and Jews historically intermarried, that Jewish men married non Jewish women from hosting peoples in the diaspora, and that according to Jewish law the offspring are not Jewish by law.
      Yes, my comment, rambling as it may be, may contradict official Israeli propaganda, but it's not I but history and the facts that convict it. I haven't even mentioned Israel at all in my original comments.
      If my comments weren't factual, my comment wouldn't have been censured, but engaged with, nor would you attempt to discredit it by discarding it wholesale by labelling it conspiracy and nonsense. That there is the sign of a lazy thinker, or rather an indoctrinated non thinker.
      Besides, it shows how fearful, shaky, and intolerant the Zionist movement is, that it would run away from dialogue and resort to authoritarian MOs.

  • @eden55272
    @eden55272 4 месяца назад +1

    Both are converted white European...dna test proved this

    • @atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891
      @atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891 2 месяца назад

      Look at them.. do they look european to you? Besides that, all jews are jews. We decide who we are. Not u. U can have fun with ur khazarian fantasies, but when it comes to define who are we as a nation, ur opinion is absolutly irrelevant

  • @erectilereptile7383
    @erectilereptile7383 2 месяца назад +1

    Very simple, doesn’t need an 8 minute explanation. Sephardic weddings are influenced by North African/Middle Eastern culture, whereas Ashkenazi weddings are influenced by German and Slavic (i.e. European) culture.