How To CARRY As ADC In LOW ELO | A Complete GUIDE

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @lukastanojevic3409
    @lukastanojevic3409 8 месяцев назад +169

    After watching many ADC guides, someone recomended me Tonirel's channel. I stumbled upon this video, watched it once or twice, started winning, i was like okay this actually works. Watched the video over 20 times now and i climbed a full rank in the matter of 20 games. I'm still re-watching the video almost every day to remind myself of these habits. Genuinely, 100% guaranteed the BEST ADC guide you will ever come across.

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  8 месяцев назад +17

      Honestly, thank you so much, I really appreciate it!! There's more guides to come, I'm working on them this week!

    • @JonathanAlliali-Die-go5gl
      @JonathanAlliali-Die-go5gl 4 месяца назад

      check out professor DDang for more advanced things

  • @EyeballBB
    @EyeballBB 8 месяцев назад +55

    ive watched countless adc guides just trying to figure out what i do wrong and genuinely this was the first guide that has genuinely helped me understand my shortcomings and i truly appreciate it

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm glad to hear that, now go get that LP!!

  • @lizardltd
    @lizardltd 11 месяцев назад +42

    One of the best video's I've seen about the ADC roles. Thank you so much!!!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm glad it helped you!!

  • @geburu
    @geburu 6 месяцев назад +6

    Seriously unbelievable content. The way you explain the concepts in a straightforward manner and then address how hard it is to learn and how to approach it is top notch. ADC looks so different to me now. Thank you!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  6 месяцев назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @mouhiazeck
    @mouhiazeck 10 месяцев назад +26

    Thank you so much for this! I feel like I've gotten more practical information in 30 minutes than I have in all the time I've played league, especially since I main Jinx as well :D

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @iracingtf5051
      @iracingtf5051 4 месяца назад

      @jaxthejaximus6296 He said that the match up matters. Vs draven + nauti you do not want to force lvl 2 fight, even if u get it first as jinx.

  • @itorres008
    @itorres008 10 месяцев назад +9

    Good one! Often other people in videos say do "this" without much of an explanation why.

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад +2

      I agree, there must be a reason behind every decision!

  • @geekedghostgaming8156
    @geekedghostgaming8156 10 месяцев назад +8

    This has been the most informative video on the ADC role. Thank you so much!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад

      You're so welcome!

  • @BenKLode
    @BenKLode 11 месяцев назад +36

    Awesome video! As a primarily support player I recently picked up botlane with Sivir, this helps me put a lot of things into perspective. Really informative and thorough, can't wait to see more!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad I could help!

  • @fastfoodfrase6878
    @fastfoodfrase6878 11 месяцев назад +3

    This video is so gold. Sadly i usually cant focus hard enough and forget half of the information i just learned

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +1

      no worries, just take it one step at a time

  • @soasertsus
    @soasertsus 23 дня назад

    Incredible video, thank you so much. As a brand new player this is so much more helpful than anything else I've seen. Clear instructions for what to do in the early game was so useful, and giving permission to give up minion last hits early. So often I just die trying to farm my wave against like a caitlyn instead of playing passively because I don't want to lose the cs, but losing a minion is better than dying.

  • @TKVermilion
    @TKVermilion 10 месяцев назад +3

    Explanation and examples are very straightforward and clean. I hope to see more solo queue centric guides for adc. + points for non click baity title. Really good content thank you! ^_^

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад +1

      My upcoming video will be another guide, stay tuned!!!

  • @williamalyabacar7489
    @williamalyabacar7489 Месяц назад

    What an amazing video it breaks down pretty much every situation and it’s clear about what you should do as an adc

  • @zelly8649
    @zelly8649 Месяц назад

    my biggest problem so far while learning league was lacking knowledge. this is insane knowledge. tysm

  • @thalesvondasos
    @thalesvondasos 3 месяца назад +10

    If only my teammates also watched this guide...

  • @Szystedt
    @Szystedt 29 дней назад

    Thank you! This was genuinely, actually so helpful!

  • @itsm1ha104
    @itsm1ha104 2 месяца назад

    After watching this i have been seeing way more progress in the role. What also helped was not tilting on a loss but accepting it as natural and moving on, focusing on inprovement

  • @mby7293
    @mby7293 2 месяца назад

    Your explaining is so easy to understand, ill be your student from now on

  • @blairwest5962
    @blairwest5962 7 месяцев назад

    Just found your videos bro. I love the breakdown of the different phases of the games. Ty so much for sharing.

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  7 месяцев назад

      Welcome aboard! :D

  • @gkaskavelis
    @gkaskavelis 10 месяцев назад +1

    One of the best videos for s14 if you want to pick bot role

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад

      I appreciate the kind words! :D

  • @question2478
    @question2478 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice guide! Could you maybe do a segment or another video on wave management?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +2

      I'll write this down!

  • @Soneoak
    @Soneoak 22 дня назад

    In very low elo, the lane is not really dependant on support as they have no clue, it’s entirely dependant on if you recognise that your support is ok or useless and then to remember to play accordingly. It is ok to 4v5 as the useless support usually ends up being good bait or they don’t take exp, so there’s always some form of benefit.

  • @bbrill9886
    @bbrill9886 9 месяцев назад +1

    you make more sense and speak better english than the majority of people that are first language speakers. . I feel that comes from not being so comfortable with language that you fill it with ego words well that and knowledge . Good info. Returning player but honestly just doing some arts and crafts seeing who is making content for this game still. TY gj

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  9 месяцев назад

      I've been studying english in school and college, and I even took extra classes outside of school for vocabulary and grammar, I like the language a lot and it's very useful to me as well, so it was a pleasure studying it! I appreciate the kind words :D

  • @BrontideHD
    @BrontideHD 11 месяцев назад +3

    at the start of the lane phase and you wait to see if they are trying to cheese from bush, its still worth to sit back even if you lose xp right? or would you still be in xp range for the first 3 melee minions? 🤔 thanks for the video :)

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +1

      try being in XP range if possible, but if not, losing the XP is better than getting caught!

  • @schnoepsy1530
    @schnoepsy1530 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great Video, Love your content!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +1

      I really appreciate it!!

    • @mschini5730
      @mschini5730 11 месяцев назад

      @schnoepsy1530 Kaisa abuser

  • @yonkito1
    @yonkito1 10 месяцев назад

    U are awesome man thank u for all the vids. They are so useful!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you like them!

  • @Fixenet5
    @Fixenet5 11 месяцев назад +1

    great video, sums up all your teachings :)

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +2

      Toni-sensei used his powers to enlighten thy self once again!

  • @diogovlima
    @diogovlima 4 месяца назад

    Great guide!! Kudos for you!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  4 месяца назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @RagingVanitas
    @RagingVanitas 4 месяца назад +2

    Hi, when you talked about mid game and said that adc should go mid for farming and doing this little turn-based game, you said that you would talk about mid that dont want to swap later but you didnt mention it anymore. Can I ask you what an ADC should do if Mid is occupied? Thanks! 😊

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  4 месяца назад +2

      get side wave quickly, then rotate mid and hover your midlaner, that's basically all you can do

  • @underdog3784
    @underdog3784 9 месяцев назад

    This was awesome and so simple to understand

  • @EzequielCastillo
    @EzequielCastillo 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great stuff!!

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank You!!

  • @nicholasfigueiredo3171
    @nicholasfigueiredo3171 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have a simply algorithm to decide witch secondary spell I go.
    I go exhaust against Trist, always.
    Heal against lucian/draven if I wanna fight lane depends on the sup matchups too.
    Cleanse If I really need and can't pick quicksilver.
    I go ghost now with champ specific exceptions now.
    Exaust if I am playing kaisa since it enables several new play because of ult, like if you hit W you can literally go in a solo laner and win the fight with exhaust.
    Ezreal/caitlyn you go TP for tempo. Since ghost is not good in them.
    Jhin you go heal since neither tp nor ghost are good and if you need to use exhaust you are prob dead already

  • @Rarien1337
    @Rarien1337 2 месяца назад +1

    Just watched this and queued up a game. Went 18 - 3 - 15 with 9cs/m.

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  2 месяца назад

      Way to go!

  • @lekos6661
    @lekos6661 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very informative GJ !

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад

      I'm glad you found it useful!

  • @Kodiah-
    @Kodiah- 11 месяцев назад +1

    I started playing adc because que times are super short. So I brought my swain to bot lane with pretty good success but iv been trying to find a 2nd champ that traditionally fits the role. Hasn't been going to well since a lot of times I would rather just play swain but I also want to learn the role itself. So I'm wondering if my untraditional pick would hurt me learning the role.

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад

      I'd say Swain is more forgiving that playing an actual adc, but he is also shorter range so he plays differently. Whenever you'll switch to a normal adc, you'll die in situations where playing Swain made the difference, adc champs are high risk high reward basically

  • @LeppiTV
    @LeppiTV 7 месяцев назад +1

    After watching ur video u made me want to main jinx

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  7 месяцев назад +1

      Go for it, you won't regret it!

  • @stefanvandersandt3956
    @stefanvandersandt3956 25 дней назад

    New player here that just got done with Ranked placement games. Coming from quickplay queue, I was skinned alive by my placement teammates because apparently everything ive been doing for the past month in quickplay is wrong. I got placed in Iron 4, and even there I was getting abused like an unwanted child.
    I had no idea what I was doing wrong. Ive gotten a couple S tier games under my belt with Caitlyn in Quickplay, but once I got to Ranked I couldnt get out of D- or D+. Think the highest I got was C-.
    I couldnt grasp what my teammates had issues with. They just tell the enemy team to report me because apparently Im trolling or feeding or Im a bot. I ask them to tell me what Im doing wrong, or to tell me what I should do because I just, don't, know, what they want from me. I watch countless videos and guides on what to do, yet when I try to do what the guides say I keep getting abused by my teammates more than I do by the enemy team.
    I have now come across this video. And man... is it eye opening. You actually explain the thought process behind why you do certain moves and dont do other moves. You explain the strategy and why its a yes or no. You explain what the enemy team would be thinking in certain situations. For example I had no idea I can chill on beach and help with vision in the first 2 minutes instead of just chilling by the tower waiting for minions.
    Guide videos just always say farm till after laning then go mid. But why? Why should I do that? When do I know when to help out a teamfight and when do I stay behind and farm? I dont know any of these things, and every decision I make is wrong according to my team. But now, everything is starting to make sense. Ill need to watch the video a few more times to fully grasp, but I can already feel my wisdom growing.
    Other Guides always treat you like youre a seasoned League player that was once a legend and now has fallen into low-elo, so you must already know everything. I know nothing. Zip. But this video helped soooo much more.
    Thanks for this dude! Ill update to let know if my performance is improving :)

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  25 дней назад

      Great to hear that!
      I plan to make an updated version this season so hopefully that one will also help you!

  • @tomber08
    @tomber08 8 месяцев назад +1

    Did I just find the Coach Curtis / Shok of ADC?

  • @hellomynameisRobX
    @hellomynameisRobX Месяц назад

    Can you make an updated guide for season 15, becuase I think it’s a little outdated with the ghost instead of barrier?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  Месяц назад +1

      I plan to do that right when the new season starts!

  • @HopeArk
    @HopeArk 4 месяца назад

    A bit old but still very relevant, was wondering if you had some tips vs mage supports like zyra/lux. Currently that's what I have the bigger issue with if my support isnt that good because something like zyra pushes very hard and has a lot of dmg while lux has a lot of range and near garunteed poke (since I play Kaisa, lux e is nearly undodgable if she double taps it on top of me unless I use e or bait it)

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  4 месяца назад

      preserve hp at all costs, then wait for team to help you, is what usually should happen

    • @HopeArk
      @HopeArk 4 месяца назад

      @@Tonirel If team ignore botlane is there anything I should do differently or just preserve and try to farm as much as I can without losing hp (was vs zyra MF)

  • @jeffreyliu4531
    @jeffreyliu4531 4 месяца назад

    thanks, Learned a lot

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  4 месяца назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @dxrkoz
    @dxrkoz 2 месяца назад

    My problem is that, when I saw a lost fight and just push to get turret + farm + pressure to bring 1 or 2 enemies on me, my team rather FF than play... I can be 14/0/7 and legit 1v2 or 1v3, my team wont let me carry them... I never trashtalk them, try to encourage them but its no use, they just want to go next :/

  • @Frizzy94
    @Frizzy94 3 месяца назад

    What is your keybinds noticed u hit sidebutton and scroll on mouse allot

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  3 месяца назад

      I have a video on my setting and another one on how I move my camera, they should be in my "Important Educational Videos" playlist

  • @psychoo8230
    @psychoo8230 9 месяцев назад

    I go rat, Q and ward enemy blue/red-raptor if possible👌

  • @Tkt_t
    @Tkt_t 8 месяцев назад

    what if im samira ? is it good to prioritize the dragon fight and leave the mid wave, contest the baron 4v5 after senna died ? or do i just play like jinx ?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  8 месяцев назад +1

      generally speaking, taking a 4v5 is not great, but ofc there are exceptions so feel free to experiment and see what you can do

    • @Tkt_t
      @Tkt_t 8 месяцев назад

      @@Tonirel thank u

  • @tomber08
    @tomber08 8 месяцев назад

    Is for exhaust and the short range my Lucian ADC a good exception?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  8 месяцев назад

      It could work, summoner spells are also personal preference, so take it if you need it

  • @CoffeeCringe
    @CoffeeCringe 4 месяца назад

    What do you do if the enemy bot lane never shows ever and they just sit in the bush getting exp while you sit under tower waiting until they show? Why wait until they show if they can just do that and gain exp while u gain none?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  4 месяца назад

      you can stay max XP range and be safe and the enemies will always leave the bush to grab the first 3 melee minions (unless they're crazy)

  • @sidneyw.mathiasdeoliveira8621
    @sidneyw.mathiasdeoliveira8621 10 месяцев назад

    Side question: what's the recording software you used? I've been looking for one just like this but it've been though to find. Also really good content, props on your work

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm using OBS Studio

  • @PiegoIlTempo
    @PiegoIlTempo 9 месяцев назад +3

    Honestly, I really don't know what to do, I only keep getting garbage supports, that manage to not land a single ability for the first 10 minutes of the game, that destroy your waves, overpush, break freezes, straight up int and flame you.
    And then they keep forcing fights when you're already at a disadvantage, poke supports that do not poke at all... my jungler is nowere to be seen or ganks and insta dies, the enemy jungler perma camping me if I push, or perma diving me.
    Vision doesn't exist besides my wards which sadly don't last forever.
    Everybody knows and backs off before I hit lvl 2 first, everybody besides my support.
    They have a shaco? A Zed? You're automatically dead, they would gladly suicide to oneshot and remove you from any fight.
    They have an AP malphite? Good luck, he'll hold ult to zone you out of the fight, if you go in you explode gg.
    And let's not talk about the all that fun shit that gets out of toplane, with perma slows mach10 movespeed and oneshots too, while you have 0/10 teemo top.
    They have lb, tf or nocturne? You're automatically dead no matter where you're.
    They have a Karthus with first strike? You either win in 20 minutes or lose the game, since full build only the ult does 1.6k on me with Maw and Wit's thanks to fucking shadowflame and cryptoshit.
    We want to talk about Briar? If she gets somehow on top of you there is no fucking disengage, you can litterally use everything you have and she will catch you, you can try to kill her if you're fed enough, and I'm not talking about her Ult which is pretty predictable and dodgeable, just her W.
    Your team won't peel you ever they'll just ignore the guy flanking and assassinating you and go suicide into the enemy team.
    Pinging achieves nothing, writing in chat only gets you flamed, giving tips to your support either makes him tilt or he just ignores it.
    Also I get the fucking useless afk bot Yuumi into Draven Nami and get perma dived by Shaco jng, while my Talon gets solokilled 6 times by enemy Ekko and ragequits, my Kayn thinks he is a farming jungler, my toplane wins but whatever he just get two tapped as well. This. Every. Game I play as adc.
    I play jungle and I have 80% wr, adc 48%, in Silver EUW, last season I was Plat only playing jungle and I could have climbed more but the role gives me cancer, this season I wanted to play adc and here I am with a whole new level of cancer.
    My sup makes or breaks the lane, if I have human supports I stomp and quadra even when the enemies aram gank bot ez win, granted that my mid/top is not 0/10 into lb, tf or other bullshit.
    I'm not even mad for shit like Rengar or Fiddlesticks because you can outplay or pay attention to them, they're a treat you can play around. But shit like AD Shaco that litterally you don't see him until your screen is gray with no anticipation whatsoever. And since you can ping wards when you see someone place them they'll often play around your vision to avoid it anyway.
    This role really does feel miserable.

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  9 месяцев назад +3

      This is how the role works, glass cannon!
      It's definitely not for everyone 😅

    • @PiegoIlTempo
      @PiegoIlTempo 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Tonirel I get it, I dodge everything dodgeable, I try to position correctly, but I mostly play immobile adc besides Zeri, but if I don't have flash or ghost there are fights where I'm just unable to join because the moment I do I'm insta dead, and that's fine, in those cases I just try to get something else on the map away from the treat.
      What really breaks my mental are the coinflip supports, I legit prefer playing botlane alone 1v2.
      In one game I had a Shaco support with smite which was playing off meta double jungle and was never in lane, into Varus Lux, and I won hard the lane abusing the xp advantage.
      But in lanes like Jinx, Draven or Tristana, if my support suicides the lane is simply over and I can't play, I honestly wish I had a good sup duo that would make it much easier

  • @ixnbtw6274
    @ixnbtw6274 9 месяцев назад

    What am I supposed to do when I destroyed t1 turrert and my mid does not want to switch + my support is going mid and stays there?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  9 месяцев назад

      Shove bot then go mid and hover around. If a fight happens it will be a 5v4 because an enemy has to go bot and catch the wave you just got, you will lose minions overall, but it wins you the game!

    • @ixnbtw6274
      @ixnbtw6274 9 месяцев назад

      @@Tonirel Thanks for the answer. The other guy advised me to go bot again after hovering mid for a bit. Would you do the same

  • @Vis-MaatjePuntNL
    @Vis-MaatjePuntNL 5 месяцев назад

    What if they keep pushing you under turret and they can just auto for free the turret?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  5 месяцев назад

      try keeping your HP high and focus on farming. if you have to give the caster minions so you don't take poke, do it!

    • @Vis-MaatjePuntNL
      @Vis-MaatjePuntNL 5 месяцев назад

      @@Tonirel Im struggling as Jinx in lower elo (silver 5, yesterday promoted), especially with my positioning. One wrong step and I am dead. And I need to adapt my mind that I should fight from front till back.
      Thank you for your video's.

  • @anas4394
    @anas4394 10 месяцев назад

    I always do the right decisions as you mentioned but i lose cuz my team do bad team fights 😮‍💨

    • @siemaneczko6326
      @siemaneczko6326 9 месяцев назад

      Xd not even best players always do the right decisions and you aren't probably even chalanger and saying this. You are at your elo because you play the same as players in your elo stop flaming athers and focus on yourself.

  • @ddg-norysq1464
    @ddg-norysq1464 10 месяцев назад

    Do you have any tips on how to handle when your support just starts running it?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm now working on a video about being weakside, and playing without a support, hopefully it will answer your questions!

    • @ddg-norysq1464
      @ddg-norysq1464 10 месяцев назад

      @@Tonirel thank you, in my last 10 games I have always tried to follow what you said and my lane opponent still goes 10/0

  • @revolver9345
    @revolver9345 2 месяца назад

    in conclusion, duo or play solo lane/jungle. noted.

  • @user-vf4uj
    @user-vf4uj 11 месяцев назад +1

    i love this soo much. can we have another macro video where you play from behind and win game?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +2

      Yes!! The video will come in 2 days from now!

    • @user-vf4uj
      @user-vf4uj 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Tonirel yessss because its so hard to do something mid game when whole team wants to give up

  • @yuutsu7201
    @yuutsu7201 10 месяцев назад

    does low elo count diamond 2-4? how might these ideas change from emerald and higher?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  10 месяцев назад

      the higher elo you go, the less risks you can take, one mistake and they could completely stomp you, but pretty much all of these ideas apply, plus we add some new ones like how to prevent 4 man dives for example

    • @yuutsu7201
      @yuutsu7201 10 месяцев назад

      @@Tonirel Thanks for your advice!

  • @Suhdude1234
    @Suhdude1234 10 месяцев назад

    Good video but can’t leash not season 2

  • @RegineRatt
    @RegineRatt 11 месяцев назад

    useful stuff 👍

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад

      Glad you think so!

  • @lollekompolle
    @lollekompolle Месяц назад

    Actually you shouldn't leash at all. It just puts you behind in lane

  • @alvinluk9724
    @alvinluk9724 2 месяца назад

    Adcs, please adapt to your support not the other way round. If you see your sup is passive, go passive and farm. If you see your sup is full aggro, give up cs and go full ham with him

  • @treato.3741
    @treato.3741 3 месяца назад

    bro's literally playing against one of the best dravens.

  • @UnholyDVP
    @UnholyDVP 8 месяцев назад

    30 min and only one thing. Pray (stick) and pray(stick).

  • @felixantonioblancodepedro5981
    @felixantonioblancodepedro5981 6 месяцев назад

    And what can you do when your supp start trolling min 2 forcing you to play 1v2, see how you're not getting salty and just try to cs and scale he proceed to steal your cs, fck your freezes and then your jungler decides to rundown and start chasing you stealing even more cs from you leaving you like 100 cs behind with no items when enemy adc has 3 and every one oneshots you cause youre alone all time and with no items :D eh and saying not a single word dying inside telling to yourself why the heck am i still playing this rol

    • @coolbrotherf127
      @coolbrotherf127 6 месяцев назад

      In a situation like that, you hope your top laner gets 20 kills by himself and carries the game. Some situations you can't fix by just playing better. Just accept the loss and move onto the next game. There's no point being tilted and flaming over one loss.

    • @felixantonioblancodepedro5981
      @felixantonioblancodepedro5981 6 месяцев назад

      @@coolbrotherf127 i never flame, it only cause the troll to even troll more, if you dont flame you have the chance or comebacking and the troll to stop trolling and start trying but... every game i go adc happens the same thats why i switched to my main rol jung again cause i can even carry alone dont giving a f the trolls :D

  • @svihl666
    @svihl666 10 месяцев назад

    5:31 / 29:12

  • @HoneyBanev
    @HoneyBanev 11 месяцев назад

    half of these are actually used even in silver tbh, more advanced "siple things" would do

  • @warwickthekingmaker7281
    @warwickthekingmaker7281 11 месяцев назад

    being 5v4 doesn't guarantee a win, and mechanics do matter. if the enemy team has a malphite and I don't have the mechanics to flash his R, I'm going to get ulted and killed for free and then it's a 4v4 that could go any way. I've seen so many situations where I call to go in because we are 5v3 and then we just lose. I had to zhonyas Yone R (as Viktor) and then got oneshot when it ended and then watched everyone on my team die

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  11 месяцев назад +1

      you're talking about specific cases, 95% of the time you win 5v4 no matter what!

    • @mannermichaels6609
      @mannermichaels6609 8 месяцев назад

      Get good scrub

  • @imTw1stedx
    @imTw1stedx 6 месяцев назад +1

    i like how in every example senna gets caught HAHA, bro knows what hes talking abt just off this

  • @burgerure1036
    @burgerure1036 5 месяцев назад

    So what to do if mid doesnt want to swap?

    • @Tonirel
      @Tonirel  5 месяцев назад +2

      catch side wave then go back mid and fight 5v4 while an enemy catches the side wave

    • @burgerure1036
      @burgerure1036 5 месяцев назад

      @@Tonirel Thx i know it all now.