If you had asked me to predict Fury's career that night, I would have said "He'll bounce around European level, get a title shot, come up short, get fed to a few prospects from Eastern Europe and finish his career as a recurring character on Prizefighter". Fair play to him for proving so many of us wrong.
@@liammc433 yea like he's there just cause his dad pressured him into it. then he started to get really great a few years later. he was nowhere near his prime in his early 20s
When you pick cans you look semi decent, since losing every round to john mcdermott he's beaten a basketballer 3 times I'll give him the draw, and cuddled klitcko in hamburg for 36 minutes
Not suggesting any inpropriety but McDermott's father beat Terry O'Connor the referee in a professional bout and he allegedly held a grudge for it...that is a fact
@I'mSmarterThanYouAndThereIsNothingYouCanDoAboutIt In this bout the referee also acted as the lone judge and scored it for Fury by 6 points. The UK is one of the only places in the world that uses this system.
“What have I got to do to win here, I’m a nice guy” quite a genuinely sad comment, credit to John though he showed during his interview with Kugan he’s a class act
I have no brief for Tyson Fury and I have landed on this fight quite accidently but I don't think I have ever listened to a more biased commentary than this. Both of the commentators were clearly rooting for McDermott right from the start. No wonder there is controversy over Fury's win.
I wrote this over a year ago. Since then I have watched YELLOW BELLY do more damage to boxing than anyone else which is no mean feat. He blows up the fight with Usyk because that is way too risky and instead bashes the crap out of washed up journeymen for the morons who worship him. Naturally YELLOW BELLY is a big fan of the orange turd cos the two share a lot of traits.@@dannykweller7873
The "controversy" comes from the fact that Mcdermott landed more shots, was FAR more accurate, and had FAR better defense than Fury. With these facts (Go check if you don't believe me) in mind, how exactly are you suggesting that Fury won this?
@@importantvideos4529It is totally irrelevant to me now. In the last two years my opinion of Tyson Fury could not have changed more, though I didn't really like him then either. He has done huge damage to the image of boxing in the last two years. I want to see Fury roundly defeated by Usyk and disappear from the boxing scene
mcdermott was effectively defending and countering those punches, so it doesn't mean shit lol. boxing is not about throwing more punches than your opponent, it's about hitting them and not getting hit. it's a huuuuuge stretch to call this a clear win for tyson fury lmao i personally think mcdermott won big here
@@neilreynard Mcdermott was literally running away towards the other ropes. Any worthwhile ref or judge would call that a surrender of the round while time remained on the timer
@@JosephNordenbrockartistraction did the judges call it a "surrender of the round" against fury when he fought wallin? Do you fanboys even follow this sport outside of fury?
The fact that the commentators thought mcdermott won the first two says it all, Tyson clearly won them an tge majority of the rounds with cleaner work. Dermott kept rushing in with many punches not landing fury was slipping punches all night jabbing his head off, not sure how people see john winning... goes to show how the commentors and pro John crowd can sway the audiences. As the above poster says switch off the sound and please watch 😂
@@creepycrawler2151 Totally agree, I thought exactly the same when Adam Smith said John took those first 2 rounds, the guy is still doing that same bullshit to this day when he commentates on fights, picks a narrative and sticks with it to try and brainwash the casuals, 90% of the comments on this video are from casuals who probably didn't even watch the fight properly and are simply regurgitating whatever the commentators say 😂😂😂
Fury was putting out the punches. McDermott was clinching, turning his back and walking away. The commentary fancied McDermott but his own corner knew he was losing it... "we're going to go home and cry". Like Fury said he was the one working.
@@ronoccc you know how boxing is scored, yeah? Effective Aggression, not giving the impression of dominance but landed shots without being countered, Ring Generalship, the fighter who controls the action enforcing his will (0 points awarded for holding the entire match), Defense (slipping, parrying and blocking punches) and lastly Hard Clean Punches (power punches mainly that land clean, landing flush and not blocked). Dillian Whyte got smashed by Joshua, Fury will make a complete shithouse out of all of them (Wilder, Joshua, Whyte etc.) This video is Fury's 8th pro fight and the first against a true challenge. Whyte lost to AJ his 17th pro fight and his last win was over a 35 year old Derek Chisora. Other notable fights he's had since AJ include Joseph Parker and another earlier bout with Chisora, who Fury made a complete joke out of Chisora their last go about.
Furys corner knew he lost, they sent him out for the knockout in the 10th because they knew he should be down on the cards. Dont try and justify a scorecard of 98-92 to Fury. He was outjabbed by a smaller man, the fight was fought at Mcdermotts pace and at his range and he had the better of the fight until the last couple of rounds. McDermott won this by at least 2 rounds for me.
stuart douglas Fury won the rematch fair and square ,and the stats are important in professional boxing and they do reflect the fight ,hitting someone without being hit yourself is the basis of the discipline ,Fury was lucky they bribed this ref.
Turning your back and walking away from your opponent is the same as a knockdown. That's how McDermott lost. Also, I never saw a low blow but just a great body punch. Since there was no replay I think that Fury won for being credited by the referee for 3 knockdowns and the holding, and throwing elbows by McDermott. That's only what I think the referee was thinking. Thank You UK for keeping boxing relevant with everybody tuning in to the UFC. It's too brutal for me. I hate it.
Either way it doesn't matter. Every all time great has lost. Ali , Robinson , Mike Tyson and even Mayweather as he lost against Castillo. Doesn't change the fact that at his best Fury could beat anyone from any era at 6 ft 9 and 19 stone.
That's how they used to score fights. It was after this fight that the BBBofC brought judges in to score fights. Obviously they thought the decision was a disgrace as well.
96-94 Fury. I had Fury winning round 1 and 3 other than that I agreed with the broadcasters card. I think it becomes controversial because of the biased commentary which I see time and time again in British boxing. I think at the start of the fight they were maybe surprised that McDermott was having little successes here and there and really talked it up and began convincing themselves and others that John was winning rounds. Especially the guy with the thick accent. 98-92 is pretty wide which adds to the controversy.
mcdermott really impressed me. dont know how theyre scoring him allegedly winning. i give fury several rounds against the commentators. 1 quality punch isnt worth more than 1 point. mcdermott showed better quality, but he lost no doubts
@@richardmullins1883 Not always, if it's a stiff jab that rocks the opponents head and neck back vs a weak hook to the body with no power or effect then the jab is obviously worth more.
SiLo Mixing and Mastering furys jab was weak asf if anyones head was getting rocked by a jab it was fury he was wobbled many times and caught clean.. fury did throw more punches but had no effect dermott ate them and outboxed him in the fight it was clear win for mcdermott
The BBBC changed their scoring rules and procedures as a result of this bad decision. But in this fight, you also notice what happens when even a good local fighter who lets his hands go imposes himself on Fury. Very few of his opponents move their feet or throw combinations, the way heavyweights used to. Fighters with an aggressive Plan A, the ability to throw those shots, and a Plan B at least, have given Fury a great deal of difficulty. Wilder had no ability to do that....he lacks even fundamentals. Whyte is tough, but a sluggish slugger. Fury is "retiring" without a single world-class, two-fisted opponent on his record. Usyk is leagues beyond any of Fury's opponents in technique, aggression, footwork, and capacity to throw combinations.
I even wonder how it was allowed to have a single person decide who will be national champion. Yes, Uzyk is a class higher than Fury. Will they ever fight? Fury has the balls to do it?
Honestly, I've watched this fight twice now and both times I gave it to fury. I had it 7 to 3 fury with John winning 4, 8 and 9. The commentary and highlights were all for McDermott. Very biased. Fury out jabbed him and landed so many more shots. John landed less shots but better shots but he still got out landed. Watch the fight without the commentary. Fury won this fight.
I think McDermott won but Fury fought moving backwards in the first five rounds so I don't think the TV score was so one sided. I've got McDermott 3-2 in first five not 4-1.
I remember the furore that surrounded this fight but this is the first time I've seen it. I had it 96-94 to McDermott. 98-92 to Fury is a joke. How could you possibly think McDermott only won two rounds? LOL Via The Guardian: "Frank Maloney suggested O'Connor looked at his fighter's corner and had flashbacks to 1977 - the night John's father knocked seven bells out of O'Connor at the Royal Albert Hall." 29:41 "Every time Terry O'Connor has refereed McDermott, he's lost." Hmmmmmm
@@quackster8295 agreed, slight edge to Fury, very close fight. no way it's a robbery. it's razor tight, and the scoring was wrong, but the outcome of Fury winning i think is right. he just threw so many more punches, and always threw back in combos when he got hit hard. he wasn't knocked down or even close to dominated. this was CLOSE. slug fest, great fight. bias commentators, they keep saying another round to Mcdermott, and i'm thinking what? how so sure? many of those i gave to Fury by a hair. not an easy fight to score. McDermott was robbed against Danny Williams their first fight though
I gave McDermott 3,4,5 and 8. I think 1 and 3 were both pretty close but otherwise I can't see much more room to give either man a round over the other. 98 to 92 is ridiculous but Tyson winning the fight to me isn't unfair. I think this fight was so much closer than the 98 to 92 that was scored and way closer than all the band wagoners who say McDermott got robbed say it was as well. Just my opinion but that's what I believe. I guess this is why we're supposed to have 3 judges.
The last two rounds fury hurt McDermott and the reff stepped in a few times in the same manner that save mcD from being knocked out and when he turned and went to the ropes is when one of the 3 I'm speaking of started and finished.
I’m halfway into the 4th round and the commentary is absolutely embarrassing so far. I have Tyson 3-0 so far. The bias towards everything McDermott does is ridiculous.
almost every human is a retard, so pointing out majority opinion is retarded in itself. It was a clear pummeling. However he did show his chin this early on
@big dog Same. Lots of sheep jumping on this 'McDermott clearly won' bandwagon, nope it's just the overly biased commentary that makes it seem that way.
Crazy how old this looks and it was 2009 when I graduated high school. Seeing McDermott land that 16 hit combo in his highlights before the fight started...nasty
I'd say this fight could've been a draw. McDermott did win more than the 2 rounds but it wasn't a clear win for McDermott like some think. Tyson beat him in the rematch and he's done a lot of work to get where he is. Tyson has been robbed himself, he clearly won the 1st wilder fight.
I had it a draw, but I could see the argument for McDermot, as he just kept walking Fury down and did some good inside work. Then again I can kind of understand why a loan judge/referee could give it to Fury, due to the sheer volume he was throwing. McDermot might have landed the stronger punches, but a lot were coming off Fury's shoulders and from inside fighting. So it is understandable if the ref missed some of his punches in a close fight. Whereas Fury was continuously snapping McDermot's head back as he landed cleanly with "cuffing shots" and "arm punches" The commentary for this was more of a disgrace than the decision if you ask me
Im also a big fury fan but a draw would of been a fair result, what a top quality fight this was though and I am glad that fury pulled through this fight and kept the unblemished record.
Yeah I could have seen if going either way. I had Tyson up one round but I wouldn’t argue against a draw or a McDermott win. There were lots of very close rounds between the two but the commentary swayed a lot of people’s opinions. They had Fury losing before he entered the ring
Problem, even back then is/was that McDermott was not as marketable as Fury or Danny Williams who he also claimed to have gotten robbed against. An average looking Joe who was a decent boxer but nothing to write home about. That is why, the marketable fighters, always get preferential treatment when it comes to close fights that go to a decision. There is too much hype and money invested in them, to fall against more experienced boxers who fight better on the night, but don't set the world on fire. Fury had a more marketable back story and that has helped him get where he is today, as well as having equal talent, and boxing IQ/ability. its show business and entertainment too as well as one of the toughest sports on the planet.
I love Tyson Fury (we follow each other on Twitter) but he clearly lost this fight. He redeemed himself in the rematch 9 months later but this asterisk will always be on his record. Jim Watt's scorecard pretty much summed this fight up. 6 rounds to 4.
I see fury years ago training , and said then he was special, he's just so hard to tag clean, as long as fury is in a good place mentally then no one will beat him ..
From wiki On 11 September 2009, Fury fought John McDermott (25-5, 16 KOs) for the English heavyweight title, and won via a points decision.[54] Fury came in as a 1-6 favourite but produced a poor display, and the 98-92 decision by the referee Terry O'Connor was criticised as a "travesty".[55] The decision led the British Boxing Board of Control to mandate three judges for all English titles, and the board ordered a rematch.[56]
If Andy Ruiz get to top shape and be motivated to the fullest i think then Ruiz would give Fury a good fight after watching this fight. The smaller guy is more clinic against bigger guys.
Massive fury fan but he lost this fight no doubt about it, fury did him in the rematch though so what can you say boxing isn’t subjective it really isn’t that hard to score
@@peacelove8223 yes it was close but furys rounds were very close where as McDermotts won his rounds more clearly. The ref must of been paid of to give it 8 rounds to 2.
Of course, these commentators had Fury losing even before he walked in. This was a close fight but I have Fury winning by one round. Hell, I could’ve seen McDermott winning as well. Some of these rounds are close, closer than people think. You need to watch this fight without the commentary to realize
@@sorchadunbar3341 Exactly. 90% of people here are just commenting like sheep saying 'John was robbed' after half watching 3 rounds and mainly listening to the horrendous commentary to form their opinion lmao, trust me that's what casuals do, during a 12 round fight my mates are usually on their phones on facebook or twitter during the middle rounds of a fight until near the end and then just regurgitate whatever they heard the commentators say throughout those rounds they didn't really watch and use that as their own opinions for who won the fight 🤣🤣
rorythered I think Tyson edged it yeah, it was just the shock of how well JM did wasn’t it, get a close fight with a big prospect or popular champ and it’s a robbery.
52:52 the words of a true champion offers a rematch straight after a close fight and knocks him out just as he said he would do. Crazy how this man would go on to become the only fighter to hold every single World championship belt in heavyweight boxing. The Gypsy King is a G.O.A.T.
I scored it a draw, but it was tough to call.. This was a classic case of 1 guy landing many weak punches per round vs 1 guy landing fewer but more effective punches per round.. Those are always tricky to call. People calling the decision a robbery are exaggerating a bit imo.
One of the worst decisions i've ever seen. 98-92! Where the fuck did Terry O'Conjob get that from! Oh That's right, he got it from the hiding that John McDermott's dad gave him when they fought each other. Sour grapes and revenge the ref? And Fury knows damn well he lost that, and lost it by some distance. I'm not surprised John McDermott pissed off out of the ring. I don't normally agree much with what Frank/Kellie Maloney says, but on this one he/she was absolutely bang on, Terry O'Connor should never have been allowed near a boxing ring again (or at least for a pretty long time). That's a worse result than when Ricky Burns got a draw against Raymundo Beltran and Amir Khan got robbed against Lamont Peterson.
+kdlofty - at that point Fury had only fought 16 rounds as a pro and had never been beyond 4 rounds...he beat John's ass proper in the rematch. Sounds like sour grapes coming from you. This was a toe to toe slug fest. Big John landed at a better % but Fury landed as often and threw far more. Fury also took the second half of the 9th and aced the 10th...making John turn his back 2x's. Fury's lack of defense via inexperience is what allowed John to land often but Fury was the better boxer and more versatile...and showed more heart in the championship rounds. It is what it is.
Not at all, just a factual statement backed by ex professionals. For the record, i agree with you about the rematch, fury hammered him all over place. I mean credit where it's due, fury still has some questions to answer (as do most boxers), but one of the big ones was his chin, and fair play to him he's answered that, Steve Cunningham dropped him with good shot be got back up and deservedly won the fight. I've only seen him stunned twice, one was when Derek Chisora caught him in their first fight, and the second was when he hit himself! (which you have to admit was pretty hilarious). The second fight with Derek Chisora was one of the most sided beatings i've ever seen. Up until a few years ago David Price was ahead of him (before he got found out for his lack of professionalism, and is now to all intent's and purposes finished, unless he gets rid of his entire "team" and buggers off to america and completely starts over again, but i can't see it myself), but now Fury's just flown past him and is in a different league. I Don't know about you, but don't see him beating Vladimir Klitschko or Deontay Wilder. Will he be a world champion? If the belts get split again yes, or if Klitchsko retires (which i don't think is too far away). And then there's the Phenomenon that is Anthony Joshua.......
I’m going to say it right now. You can hate me if you want but half of the shots from McDermott that the commentators thought landed didn’t even land. Fury definitely won this fight! Hate me if you want but it’s the truth!!!!
Yep, in the first three rounds he landed the only clean shots, I can't see how you can assign them to Dermott, he punched the gloves and the air basically.
gypsychavie this decision changed British title fight rules ,the ref does not score these bouts anymore judges do ,it really says something doesn't it.
@@harambe7430 I had it a draw, but I could see the argument for mcdermot. Then again I can kind of understand why a loan judge/referee could give it to Fury, due to the sheer volume he was throwing. McDermot might have landed the stronger punches, but a lot were coming off Fury's shoulders and from inside fighting. So it is understandable if the ref missed some of his punches in a close fight. Whereas Fury was continuously snapping McDermot's head back as he landed cleanly with "cuffing shots" and "arm punches" The commentary for this was more of a disgrace than the decision if you ask me
I think it's close enough to have anyone win it .... But 98 - 92 is fucking ridiculous ! Why is the referee solo judging a boxing match anyway... I dont think either man WON but McDermot didnt lose by 6 rounds...
39 minutes in and wondering how Tyson wins......excited to see Man I love Tyson, but I feel he lost this fight. McDermott up by 2 rounds, but Tyson was animal in Championship rounds.
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Who is here after watching Kugan's McDermott interview?
yes mate he seems like a good fella was pretty handy
Yes sir!
bert you mean McDermott got robbed blind. Poor fella ✌️
Watching It AGAIN for that exact reason right now!!
And me
Who came here from the McDermott interview just now! 😂 Francesca maloney 😂
Me too 😂
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SHARK BITE me too lol
Me 6th 😂😂
Must have fallen on his or is it her head! Gordon Benet RamsaY!
If you had asked me to predict Fury's career that night, I would have said "He'll bounce around European level, get a title shot, come up short, get fed to a few prospects from Eastern Europe and finish his career as a recurring character on Prizefighter". Fair play to him for proving so many of us wrong.
Ive been a fan since day new he could do it his fast and 6 9 ffs
I think it took Fury a while to take his boxing seriously, early Fury looks like he's just there because he's been primed for it from a young age.
@@liammc433 yea like he's there just cause his dad pressured him into it. then he started to get really great a few years later. he was nowhere near his prime in his early 20s
100%. Fastest learner I've ever seen
When you pick cans you look semi decent, since losing every round to john mcdermott he's beaten a basketballer 3 times I'll give him the draw, and cuddled klitcko in hamburg for 36 minutes
Not suggesting any inpropriety but McDermott's father beat Terry O'Connor the referee in a professional bout and he allegedly held a grudge for it...that is a fact
Dave Stocks Your absolutely correct on that David.
It's a fact that he allegedly held a grudge?
@I'mSmarterThanYouAndThereIsNothingYouCanDoAboutIt In this bout the referee also acted as the lone judge and scored it for Fury by 6 points. The UK is one of the only places in the world that uses this system.
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😂😂.
@Daniel Moore yeah, way too much scum in the commentary section
“What have I got to do to win here, I’m a nice guy” quite a genuinely sad comment, credit to John though he showed during his interview with Kugan he’s a class act
whos here after mcdermots IFL interview?
Legend has it these commentators are still talking about McDermott to this day
I thought they were watching a different fight..😂. Musta had a fiver on Mac.
McDermott won
Tyson WORLD CHAMP ..who's here after Wilder vs Fury
I'm here : )
me too
Yep.
Where's McDermott now? You'd almost think he'd pop up to say he 'beat' Tyson.
Lol
This was 30th pro fight for McDermott and 8th for Fury. Fury had his first year as a pro and fought that year 8 times.
@SaltyCreamPie and? And that's a lot more impressive then ur fat ass sitting on a couch not doing anything. Lmao dummy
@@Ace2Trill hahaha
Shows fury has the goods. McDermott was exposed in the second fight
@@jamietowler7029 He still outlanded fury in the first
Fury still LOST this fight!!
They robbed McDermott
😂David Haye dressed like he’s from South Central
Lol. Thought the same. Used to love David back in the day.
How did ref just decide like that. I never seen that b4
that was insane, lol almost like hey look this is rigged and I'm gonna decide the fight within seconds and I'm a ref, not judges
Yeah it looked like it was already decided.
McDermott's father beat the referee on a boxing match long time ago and held grudge against him. That's likely why.
He had probably been counting
@@truejayoh no kidding??
I have no brief for Tyson Fury and I have landed on this fight quite accidently but I don't think I have ever listened to a more biased commentary than this. Both of the commentators were clearly rooting for McDermott right from the start. No wonder there is controversy over Fury's win.
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I wrote this over a year ago. Since then I have watched YELLOW BELLY do more damage to boxing than anyone else which is no mean feat. He blows up the fight with Usyk because that is way too risky and instead bashes the crap out of washed up journeymen for the morons who worship him. Naturally YELLOW BELLY is a big fan of the orange turd cos the two share a lot of traits.@@dannykweller7873
Of course they were rooting for McDermott, he was the better fighter.
The "controversy" comes from the fact that Mcdermott landed more shots, was FAR more accurate, and had FAR better defense than Fury. With these facts (Go check if you don't believe me) in mind, how exactly are you suggesting that Fury won this?
@@importantvideos4529It is totally irrelevant to me now. In the last two years my opinion of Tyson Fury could not have changed more, though I didn't really like him then either. He has done huge damage to the image of boxing in the last two years. I want to see Fury roundly defeated by Usyk and disappear from the boxing scene
Fight actually starts at 11:27, you're welcome.
Commentators were only watching for what McDermott did. Fury worked very hard and threw lots more punches.
Fury lost
@@robertbrown978 He might have done if Mcdermott hadn't turned his back on fury! However fury did throw more punches!
mcdermott was effectively defending and countering those punches, so it doesn't mean shit lol. boxing is not about throwing more punches than your opponent, it's about hitting them and not getting hit. it's a huuuuuge stretch to call this a clear win for tyson fury lmao i personally think mcdermott won big here
@@neilreynard Mcdermott was literally running away towards the other ropes. Any worthwhile ref or judge would call that a surrender of the round while time remained on the timer
@@JosephNordenbrockartistraction did the judges call it a "surrender of the round" against fury when he fought wallin? Do you fanboys even follow this sport outside of fury?
try watching with the sound turned off and I think will see a more favourable fight for Fury
Exactly. The announcers seemed to be watching some other fight.
Whatt and sky again picking whom they want to win... fury won this contest.. but he caught a couple of shots on the chin. Fury won 7 / 3 or 6 / 4
The fact that the commentators thought mcdermott won the first two says it all, Tyson clearly won them an tge majority of the rounds with cleaner work. Dermott kept rushing in with many punches not landing fury was slipping punches all night jabbing his head off, not sure how people see john winning... goes to show how the commentors and pro John crowd can sway the audiences. As the above poster says switch off the sound and please watch 😂
@@creepycrawler2151 Totally agree, I thought exactly the same when Adam Smith said John took those first 2 rounds, the guy is still doing that same bullshit to this day when he commentates on fights, picks a narrative and sticks with it to try and brainwash the casuals, 90% of the comments on this video are from casuals who probably didn't even watch the fight properly and are simply regurgitating whatever the commentators say 😂😂😂
I had a close 6/4 for Fury. I wouldn't have been upset at a draw
These announcers are so pro McDermott it’s ridiculous
John McDermott won the fight make no mistake about it. This fight should have been the end of Fury.
really disagree with commentators that are obviously from McDermott's area.. lol round 3 was even, 4 was Fury stepping into his usual
That was a really good fight, especially 10th round, McDermott really put up a great fight against Fury.
Was a 10 rounder lmao
@twil, yeah thank you, I meant 10th round.
He won.
Absolutely bulls**t! Fury won the first three rounds! What are these commentators watching!
Had fury 6-4
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Fury was putting out the punches. McDermott was clinching, turning his back and walking away. The commentary fancied McDermott but his own corner knew he was losing it... "we're going to go home and cry". Like Fury said he was the one working.
fury fan boy casuals are hilarious, defend the indefensible
@@ronoccc you know how boxing is scored, yeah? Effective Aggression, not giving the impression of dominance but landed shots without being countered, Ring Generalship, the fighter who controls the action enforcing his will (0 points awarded for holding the entire match), Defense (slipping, parrying and blocking punches) and lastly Hard Clean Punches (power punches mainly that land clean, landing flush and not blocked).
Dillian Whyte got smashed by Joshua, Fury will make a complete shithouse out of all of them (Wilder, Joshua, Whyte etc.)
This video is Fury's 8th pro fight and the first against a true challenge. Whyte lost to AJ his 17th pro fight and his last win was over a 35 year old Derek Chisora. Other notable fights he's had since AJ include Joseph Parker and another earlier bout with Chisora, who Fury made a complete joke out of Chisora their last go about.
Furys corner knew he lost, they sent him out for the knockout in the 10th because they knew he should be down on the cards. Dont try and justify a scorecard of 98-92 to Fury. He was outjabbed by a smaller man, the fight was fought at Mcdermotts pace and at his range and he had the better of the fight until the last couple of rounds. McDermott won this by at least 2 rounds for me.
you dont have a clue what youre talking about mush.
Great fight. Very close but I still think Fury won it. The announcers were obviously pro Mcdermott. Hell of a pace for big heavyweights.
FURY DIDNT WIN SHIT
It wasn't just the commentators who thought McDermott was winning. The bookies felt the same way...
blind as a bat.
Daylight robbery... I feel so sad for John... what have i got to do to win it? am a nice guy.... awwwwwwh
It's actually amazing how much Fury has improved since this fight. Even his jab looks very sloppy here.
stuart douglas
do you understand boxing?
Mcdermott thrown 334 landed 114 success 34%
Fury thrown 570 landed 104 success 18%
stuart douglas
Fury won the rematch fair and square ,and the stats are important in professional boxing and they do reflect the fight ,hitting someone without being hit yourself is the basis of the discipline ,Fury was lucky they bribed this ref.
Ashley Murphy his defence was shocking here so easy to hit compared to now crazy
Johns dad knocked the ref around so people think he held a grudge and scored Tyson to win
Hed has like 6 fights mcdermot was a veteran
watch it with the sound down
Another Tyson dick Ryder. so some how the sound influences the punches mc d landed on Tyson's overrated drug cheating ass ahahhahha
Fury hates that overhand right from a smaller man.
Turning your back and walking away from your opponent is the same as a knockdown. That's how McDermott lost. Also, I never saw a low blow but just a great body punch. Since there was no replay I think that Fury won for being credited by the referee for 3 knockdowns and the holding, and throwing elbows by McDermott. That's only what I think the referee was thinking. Thank You UK for keeping boxing relevant with everybody tuning in to the UFC. It's too brutal for me. I hate it.
Boxers have way more brain damage & health problems than MMA fighters
Either way it doesn't matter. Every all time great has lost. Ali , Robinson , Mike Tyson and even Mayweather as he lost against Castillo. Doesn't change the fact that at his best Fury could beat anyone from any era at 6 ft 9 and 19 stone.
What the hell the referee do raising his hand as the winner before the decision. 100% fixed
yeh that threw me too
it was the referee's job to score this fight, there were no judges
Yes he also had a conflct of intrest, he should never have been appointed to this fight.
The fight ended, both fighters put their hands in the air. The referee grabbed Furys hand. Which gave fury the win? Wait what?
That's how they used to score fights. It was after this fight that the BBBofC brought judges in to score fights. Obviously they thought the decision was a disgrace as well.
McDermott was the better man this day
96-94 Fury. I had Fury winning round 1 and 3 other than that I agreed with the broadcasters card. I think it becomes controversial because of the biased commentary which I see time and time again in British boxing. I think at the start of the fight they were maybe surprised that McDermott was having little successes here and there and really talked it up and began convincing themselves and others that John was winning rounds. Especially the guy with the thick accent. 98-92 is pretty wide which adds to the controversy.
Who is here getting warmed up for the Usyk fight??
mcdermott really impressed me. dont know how theyre scoring him allegedly winning. i give fury several rounds against the commentators. 1 quality punch isnt worth more than 1 point. mcdermott showed better quality, but he lost no doubts
A power punch will always be worth more than a jab.
@@richardmullins1883 Not always, if it's a stiff jab that rocks the opponents head and neck back vs a weak hook to the body with no power or effect then the jab is obviously worth more.
Agreed i had fury up 2 at the end of the fight
SiLo Mixing and Mastering furys jab was weak asf if anyones head was getting rocked by a jab it was fury he was wobbled many times and caught clean.. fury did throw more punches but had no effect dermott ate them and outboxed him in the fight it was clear win for mcdermott
@@Blackfracolin1 nope
Thanks a lot for boxing!!!
The way McDermott spits at 26:13 is pretty badass 😂
First time I scored it 98-92 to Fury. Second time I scored it 97-93 to Fury.
I do think Fury won the first fight tbh
The BBBC changed their scoring rules and procedures as a result of this bad decision. But in this fight, you also notice what happens when even a good local fighter who lets his hands go imposes himself on Fury. Very few of his opponents move their feet or throw combinations, the way heavyweights used to. Fighters with an aggressive Plan A, the ability to throw those shots, and a Plan B at least, have given Fury a great deal of difficulty. Wilder had no ability to do that....he lacks even fundamentals. Whyte is tough, but a sluggish slugger. Fury is "retiring" without a single world-class, two-fisted opponent on his record. Usyk is leagues beyond any of Fury's opponents in technique, aggression, footwork, and capacity to throw combinations.
I even wonder how it was allowed to have a single person decide who will be national champion. Yes, Uzyk is a class higher than Fury. Will they ever fight? Fury has the balls to do it?
McDermott definitely won that fight. Watch not only the interview but this entire hour fight and I'm a huge fan of Tyson fury but he lost.
Nathan Kotenberg, Nahh you’re clearly a Fury hater
Piss poor decision, clearly protecting Fury's record, disgrace.
Nonsense. Fury won the first four rounds and the last two. The announcers were clearly pro Mcdermott.
@@YawehthedragondogofEL agree with you on the commentators
Diogenes Ataraxia You should quit the drugs mate.
@@YawehthedragondogofEL what brand of crack was you smoking
Honestly, I've watched this fight twice now and both times I gave it to fury. I had it 7 to 3 fury with John winning 4, 8 and 9. The commentary and highlights were all for McDermott. Very biased. Fury out jabbed him and landed so many more shots. John landed less shots but better shots but he still got out landed. Watch the fight without the commentary. Fury won this fight.
@elliot j Judging was bad because scorecard was wide.. No one is saying Fury won the landslide but that sky commentary was so biased
Most bias piece of commentary I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Dudes should be ashamed of themselves
I'd struggle to not give McDermott the second round...
I think McDermott won but Fury fought moving backwards in the first five rounds so I don't think the TV score was so one sided. I've got McDermott 3-2 in first five not 4-1.
Wow McDermott got absolutely jobbed
I remember the furore that surrounded this fight but this is the first time I've seen it.
I had it 96-94 to McDermott.
98-92 to Fury is a joke. How could you possibly think McDermott only won two rounds? LOL
Via The Guardian:
"Frank Maloney suggested O'Connor looked at his fighter's corner and had flashbacks to 1977 - the night John's father knocked seven bells out of O'Connor at the Royal Albert Hall."
29:41
"Every time Terry O'Connor has refereed McDermott, he's lost."
Hmmmmmm
I had it 5-4-1 to Fury. It was a close fight if you don’t listen to the biased commentary, close rounds
@@quackster8295 agreed, slight edge to Fury, very close fight. no way it's a robbery. it's razor tight, and the scoring was wrong, but the outcome of Fury winning i think is right. he just threw so many more punches, and always threw back in combos when he got hit hard. he wasn't knocked down or even close to dominated. this was CLOSE. slug fest, great fight. bias commentators, they keep saying another round to Mcdermott, and i'm thinking what? how so sure? many of those i gave to Fury by a hair. not an easy fight to score. McDermott was robbed against Danny Williams their first fight though
Very ,very dodgy decision.Crooked,fixed 100%.
I gave McDermott 3,4,5 and 8. I think 1 and 3 were both pretty close but otherwise I can't see much more room to give either man a round over the other. 98 to 92 is ridiculous but Tyson winning the fight to me isn't unfair. I think this fight was so much closer than the 98 to 92 that was scored and way closer than all the band wagoners who say McDermott got robbed say it was as well. Just my opinion but that's what I believe. I guess this is why we're supposed to have 3 judges.
The last two rounds fury hurt McDermott and the reff stepped in a few times in the same manner that save mcD from being knocked out and when he turned and went to the ropes is when one of the 3 I'm speaking of started and finished.
I'm just glad I was the one not having to make the call! It was a good fight but Fury's youth definitely showed. Today's Fury much different results.
tyson won this fight,it was close but the points added up for tyson,the commentaters were bias
Any idea why the referee judged this❓
This previous bout for the English title had judges: boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1161246
When fury won round 7 it was down hill for McDermott
I’m halfway into the 4th round and the commentary is absolutely embarrassing so far. I have Tyson 3-0 so far. The bias towards everything McDermott does is ridiculous.
Thank fuck your not a ref then
@@freddy512 I had it the same.
Well said! This is not close. McDermott winning this fight is a myth.
Fury was the presser and McDermott clinched and was swinging at air and mostly hitting gloves
😄
Best leaning contest ever!
fury lost that fight hands down .feel for mcdermt
+stan smith have a look down the comments and see who else thinks the same
almost every human is a retard, so pointing out majority opinion is retarded in itself. It was a clear pummeling. However he did show his chin this early on
5 to 4 rounds to fury in my books 1 tie round
@big dog Same. Lots of sheep jumping on this 'McDermott clearly won' bandwagon, nope it's just the overly biased commentary that makes it seem that way.
@@SiLoMixMaster i agree but not by 98-92
The commentary is biased. Saying McDermott had the better start is absolute bollucks. First 3 rounds to Fury no doubt.
Crazy how old this looks and it was 2009 when I graduated high school. Seeing McDermott land that 16 hit combo in his highlights before the fight started...nasty
This is not look old, behave !
I'd say this fight could've been a draw. McDermott did win more than the 2 rounds but it wasn't a clear win for McDermott like some think. Tyson beat him in the rematch and he's done a lot of work to get where he is. Tyson has been robbed himself, he clearly won the 1st wilder fight.
I scored it a draw.
Agreed
I had it a draw, but I could see the argument for McDermot, as he just kept walking Fury down and did some good inside work.
Then again I can kind of understand why a loan judge/referee could give it to Fury, due to the sheer volume he was throwing. McDermot might have landed the stronger punches, but a lot were coming off Fury's shoulders and from inside fighting. So it is understandable if the ref missed some of his punches in a close fight.
Whereas Fury was continuously snapping McDermot's head back as he landed cleanly with "cuffing shots" and "arm punches"
The commentary for this was more of a disgrace than the decision if you ask me
SansAppellation couldn’t agree more, big big Tyson fan but I would 100% agree a draw, you seem knowledgable what’s your opinion of the wilder fight?
Tyson 10-8 that last round, which puts him over +1 on my card. Big Mac was gassed and hung on him eating big combos.
Im also a big fury fan but a draw would of been a fair result, what a top quality fight this was though and I am glad that fury pulled through this fight and kept the unblemished record.
Yeah I could have seen if going either way. I had Tyson up one round but I wouldn’t argue against a draw or a McDermott win. There were lots of very close rounds between the two but the commentary swayed a lot of people’s opinions. They had Fury losing before he entered the ring
Problem, even back then is/was that McDermott was not as marketable as Fury or Danny Williams who he also claimed to have gotten robbed against. An average looking Joe who was a decent boxer but nothing to write home about. That is why, the marketable fighters, always get preferential treatment when it comes to close fights that go to a decision. There is too much hype and money invested in them, to fall against more experienced boxers who fight better on the night, but don't set the world on fire. Fury had a more marketable back story and that has helped him get where he is today, as well as having equal talent, and boxing IQ/ability. its show business and entertainment too as well as one of the toughest sports on the planet.
Mcdermot had good head movement, he knows how to get through Furys long jabs.
37:08 "There's Tyson's dad, gypsy John Fury"
First 3 rounds for fury
Just watch this entire fight for the first time and if anyone knows how to score a fight will know Fury won, I had it 97 to 93 Tyson Fury.
I know how to score a fight and completely disagree with you . But you also think Josh Taylor beat Cattrall so we don't score fights the same.
@@unc0mm0n2 Show me where i said Josh Taylor beat Cattrall ?, Cattrall won that fight, Do you normally speak for other people ?
Back then never thought Fury would ever become World Champion material
Watch without audio and it's not close at all. You're welcome.
I love Tyson Fury (we follow each other on Twitter) but he clearly lost this fight. He redeemed himself in the rematch 9 months later but this asterisk will always be on his record. Jim Watt's scorecard pretty much summed this fight up. 6 rounds to 4.
Alexander Layko
(We follow each other on twitter) 😂😂. You soft twat lol.
@@danielmoore1451 hahahahaha
Alexander Layko, you’re clearly a hater, there was no clear victor
I had it a draw
I see fury years ago training , and said then he was special, he's just so hard to tag clean, as long as fury is in a good place mentally then no one will beat him ..
Sounds like a built in excuse "as long as"....If Fury's not in a good mental state maybe he shouldn't be fighting 🤔
2020.
Haye ringside in Vegas watching Fury cement his legend.
"The next champion"
Prophetic
From wiki
On 11 September 2009, Fury fought John McDermott (25-5, 16 KOs) for the English heavyweight title, and won via a points decision.[54] Fury came in as a 1-6 favourite but produced a poor display, and the 98-92 decision by the referee Terry O'Connor was criticised as a "travesty".[55] The decision led the British Boxing Board of Control to mandate three judges for all English titles, and the board ordered a rematch.[56]
Definitely not a landslide for either fighter. Almost all rounds were close
And tyson fury floored him in the rematch
Commentators heavily biased towards mcdermott
Not really. McDermott won easily. The ref was paid
Oman victory fury was beaten l gave fury first round no way he won
It's crazy to see a guy jabbing and countering with Tyson Fury. Credit to Mcdermott.
If Andy Ruiz get to top shape and be motivated to the fullest i think then Ruiz would give Fury a good fight after watching this fight. The smaller guy is more clinic against bigger guys.
Ruiz lacks footwork
@@combinhisheadpiece6717 yeah defos!
7-3 fury. wtf - all haters are casual and have no clue what they are seeing? same with the commentary.
Massive fury fan but he lost this fight no doubt about it, fury did him in the rematch though so what can you say boxing isn’t subjective it really isn’t that hard to score
i think it was a draw
@@peacelove8223 yes it was close but furys rounds were very close where as McDermotts won his rounds more clearly. The ref must of been paid of to give it 8 rounds to 2.
Which rounds he lost?
@ I will watch again on mute. Commentary can sway opinions.
@@omanvictory4011, that’s not how boxing is scored, who wins more rounds is the winner unless theirs a knockdown or knockout
He can actually box. He have boxing skill.Tyson is one of the best boxer ..
You Brits love that techno
24:55 did the ref just slap Fury's arse?
I Watched it with my eyes closed..Sounds like McDermott won it.
Chloe Dora, why don’t you watch it without the sound?
I watched it with my eyes closed ,,lol..
You did in your arse haha
Lmao this made me laugh too hard 😂 think I've smoked too much 🤣
Of course, these commentators had Fury losing even before he walked in. This was a close fight but I have Fury winning by one round. Hell, I could’ve seen McDermott winning as well. Some of these rounds are close, closer than people think. You need to watch this fight without the commentary to realize
If you think McDermott won this fight you clearly have no idea how boxing is scored. Thank the lord fury had smart judges
Who ist the commentator that sounds like Sir Jackie Stewart?
The commentary doesn't match the fight, as so often with Sky Sports.
Fabian Jollywigs
It’s even worse now isn’t it, that Andy Clarke is awful.
100%
Fury won this fight. Jim whatt is going for mcdermort and people dont watch the actual fight.
@@sorchadunbar3341 Exactly. 90% of people here are just commenting like sheep saying 'John was robbed' after half watching 3 rounds and mainly listening to the horrendous commentary to form their opinion lmao, trust me that's what casuals do, during a 12 round fight my mates are usually on their phones on facebook or twitter during the middle rounds of a fight until near the end and then just regurgitate whatever they heard the commentators say throughout those rounds they didn't really watch and use that as their own opinions for who won the fight 🤣🤣
Commentary is quite biased tbh watch it without sound and tyson landed more and won in my opinion
rorythered
I think Tyson edged it yeah, it was just the shock of how well JM did wasn’t it, get a close fight with a big prospect or popular champ and it’s a robbery.
Done a packet on this fight, never bet on boxing again after this.
This is the wba wbo ibf heavyweight champion of the world. He has improved but......
Tyson said he would stop McDermott next time, and he did just that!
He said he’d have the title within a year too and he did.
52:52 the words of a true champion offers a rematch straight after a close fight and knocks him out just as he said he would do. Crazy how this man would go on to become the only fighter to hold every single World championship belt in heavyweight boxing. The Gypsy King is a G.O.A.T.
Usyk schooled the Gypsy queen
LEGEND INTRO TUNES
in my eyes John won that fight not fury. it was fixed.
Commentary very biased, I thought Fuey won the first 2 rounds
Fury threw 240 more punches. its time SKY got rid of these two clowns Watt & Darke
do you understand boxing?
Mcdermott thrown 334 landed 114 success 34%
Fury thrown 570 landed 104 success 18%
Looool Fury threw 240 more punches and still landed fewer. You dont score points for shadow boxing you dumb guy
He's a hard man, this John McDermott....
Tyson Fury too, of course.
What a fight...
Could have gone to John McDermott, just as easily.
I scored it a draw, but it was tough to call.. This was a classic case of 1 guy landing many weak punches per round vs 1 guy landing fewer but more effective punches per round.. Those are always tricky to call. People calling the decision a robbery are exaggerating a bit imo.
One of the worst decisions i've ever seen. 98-92! Where the fuck did Terry O'Conjob get that from! Oh That's right, he got it from the hiding that John McDermott's dad gave him when they fought each other. Sour grapes and revenge the ref?
And Fury knows damn well he lost that, and lost it by some distance. I'm not surprised John McDermott pissed off out of the ring. I don't normally agree much with what Frank/Kellie Maloney says, but on this one he/she was absolutely bang on, Terry O'Connor should never have been allowed near a boxing ring again (or at least for a pretty long time).
That's a worse result than when Ricky Burns got a draw against Raymundo Beltran and Amir Khan got robbed against Lamont Peterson.
+kdlofty - at that point Fury had only fought 16 rounds as a pro and had never been beyond 4 rounds...he beat John's ass proper in the rematch. Sounds like sour grapes coming from you.
This was a toe to toe slug fest. Big John landed at a better % but Fury landed as often and threw far more. Fury also took the second half of the 9th and aced the 10th...making John turn his back 2x's. Fury's lack of defense via inexperience is what allowed John to land often but Fury was the better boxer and more versatile...and showed more heart in the championship rounds. It is what it is.
Not at all, just a factual statement backed by ex professionals. For the record, i agree with you about the rematch, fury hammered him all over place. I mean credit where it's due, fury still has some questions to answer (as do most boxers), but one of the big ones was his chin, and fair play to him he's answered that, Steve Cunningham dropped him with good shot be got back up and deservedly won the fight. I've only seen him stunned twice, one was when Derek Chisora caught him in their first fight, and the second was when he hit himself! (which you have to admit was pretty hilarious). The second fight with Derek Chisora was one of the most sided beatings i've ever seen.
Up until a few years ago David Price was ahead of him (before he got found out for his lack of professionalism, and is now to all intent's and purposes finished, unless he gets rid of his entire "team" and buggers off to america and completely starts over again, but i can't see it myself), but now Fury's just flown past him and is in a different league.
I Don't know about you, but don't see him beating Vladimir Klitschko or Deontay Wilder. Will he be a world champion? If the belts get split again yes, or if Klitchsko retires (which i don't think is too far away).
And then there's the Phenomenon that is Anthony Joshua.......
+Justin Town lol Facts means sour grapes? FOH with that dumb logic
kdlofty Beltran and Bradley Vs Pacquiao and now GGG Vs Canelo are some of the worst I've ever seen. This though was 🤐 ....
I’m going to say it right now. You can hate me if you want but half of the shots from McDermott that the commentators thought landed didn’t even land. Fury definitely won this fight! Hate me if you want but it’s the truth!!!!
Yep, in the first three rounds he landed the only clean shots, I can't see how you can assign them to Dermott, he punched the gloves and the air basically.
Damn right fury won
54:33 John McDermott being a sore loser kills me 😂😂😂
And look at Tyson Fury now the king of the division
Tyson fury deffo lost this fight
gypsychavie
this decision changed British title fight rules ,the ref does not score these bouts anymore judges do ,it really says something doesn't it.
course he did.
gypsychavie just because the ref put fury’s hands up doesn’t mean he actually won, that’s what’s called a robbery.
@@harambe7430 I had it a draw, but I could see the argument for mcdermot.
Then again I can kind of understand why a loan judge/referee could give it to Fury, due to the sheer volume he was throwing. McDermot might have landed the stronger punches, but a lot were coming off Fury's shoulders and from inside fighting. So it is understandable if the ref missed some of his punches in a close fight.
Whereas Fury was continuously snapping McDermot's head back as he landed cleanly with "cuffing shots" and "arm punches"
The commentary for this was more of a disgrace than the decision if you ask me
I think it's close enough to have anyone win it .... But 98 - 92 is fucking ridiculous ! Why is the referee solo judging a boxing match anyway... I dont think either man WON but McDermot didnt lose by 6 rounds...
39 minutes in and wondering how Tyson wins......excited to see
Man I love Tyson, but I feel he lost this fight. McDermott up by 2 rounds, but Tyson was animal in Championship rounds.
Joshua would of destroyed this guy at 10 fights. We was world champ after 16. People forget how much Joshua has done so fast
This fight happened on my 10th birthday 🔥
@TheGooners11 we're all getting older! There's no escape! 😂😭