@@glennoc8585 they have the supply chain 2 the most resources .. workers have become highly skilled .. easily building the best quality product on the market .. ie trek/giant/specialized/bianchi/scott
This guy literally is risking his life and safety to make videos for our enjoyment. No one, except for this guy willing to do what he is doing. kudos to you bro! He deserves a like and a subscribe.
You think testing out bike parts is risking your life?? Hardly Lol Here are people who really risk life every single time they go into work: Infantry deployed into an active war zone Police and first responders Iron workers Construction workers Rough necks (oilwell workers) Fishermen
I've used these common AliExpress carbon seatposts for years on all my bikes. I'm 6ft4 and not light and they have served me well. One failure, this summer. Saddle started rocking and the rear bolt had broken and damaged the carbon. 2012 I put it on. I adjust my saddle a lot due to back problems so I'm not surprised. It didn't fail dangerously, enough warning things were going south. I fitted a new one. They seem to have beefed up that rear section.
Remark :the aluminium seatpost you used previously is unsafe because the rail clamping area is too short for carbon rails You should have used a saddle with metallic rails
What's the point of 4 piston calipers on a road bike? It just adds weight, complexity, cost, and it might wear down the brake rotor faster. Bigger floating rotors make more sense. Also, i will never use integrated stem handlebar.
You are pure gold Luke. Thank you so much for your precious videos. Lots of useful tips and high quality content for free during these years. You are finally receiving the attention you always deserved. Since there isn't a subscription option I will gladly drop a lot of 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 to you. ❤️
Dropping them 🥖s for the most relatable cycling RUclipsr. Hopefully you can get your hands on the Ltwoo RX Hydraulic groupset. Could be a game changer if it's good.
🥖 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖In my shop I don’t recommend anything more than 20mm of spacers under the stem. Honestly 40mm is a big risk, you might even be better off cutting the steerer shorter and fitting an aluminium steerer extension to the top. At least then the carbon will be Reinforced by a thick aluminium clamp and you will have a solid aluminium steerer to fix your bar to. BBB make one, it’s called a BHP-22, just Google it. 👍🏻🙂 Safe riding Sir.
Interesting... I found my set uses the same "smaller" break pads at the front and back on my BR-005 set. Other people have reported that their version uses larger break pads.... seems there are different versions of these brakes out in the wild, under the same model name. I hope somebody can clear this mystery - and here 8x 🥖 for your efforts 😎
Hmmmm interesting, maybe the have been through a couple of interations. I wouldnt be surprised with the number of differences from the previous generation...
@@TraceVelo you are spot on with changing the brake pads. The original copper pads reduced breaking power over time and showed a lot of wear. After 1000km I changed to similar resin-metal brake pads which improved the performance… The Juintech GT‘s might be overkill on a roadbike…. I use Juintech F1‘s in the Swiss Alps without desire to go full hydraulic 😁
I have been doing handmade carbon components for sailing and biking over the years. If you want to add some strength to the fork steerer, and you have an old 1" O.D. steerer or are willing to buy some 1" carbon tubing, you can make an insert and epoxy it into the steerer. This will double the wall thickness and increase peace of mind. Cheers/
Also give the road avid bb7s a try. They are amazing, and you can find a used set for relatively cheap. Then just a simple rebuild and they are as good as new. I find that their braking performance rivals even the best hydros.
@@Drago0900 road bike mostly if not all are flat mount, at least those that came out in the last 5 years. And not all frame will be able to fit the adaptor
@@hkchew03 Yeah not every frame in existence but in the video you can see a post to flat mount adaptor in use on the fork. And in the last 5 years would be 2017 and later. Which flat mount wasn't really common until around 2020, which is the really new bikes. My road bike has post mounts and it's a 2018 model.
Seat post bolt I would drill slightly and insert a metal sleeve insert. As for the sealant on the seat tube, I would have made a simple guard to shield the area.
I live in Hong Kong and it is so much easier and cheaper (half the price) to buy these parts but I would never, due to the QC issues and the unfriendly traffic on public roads. If a stem or a rim fails, I would end up at the bottom of a lorry. Now thanks to you we know what parts are a safer bet.
Smashing review Luke. Those pedals must be terrible quality. I have a very old pair of entry leval shimano SPD SL. They have done many thousands of miles and still the bearings are like new. Also, you have more spunk than me for trying out those cheapy bar clamps. I just would not trust them. All the best Andy
4 N-m is at the low end for that stem bolt, especially considering that there was only one bolt. So no, you definitely did not apply too much torque to that bolt. That was a defect or poor design issue.
I think carbon has had its day, even the expensive brands dont last and crack n split, plus carbon is overpriced, people should stick to Steel, Aluminum and Titanium. Its ok for the pros, they don’t pay for their bikes just given a new bike when needed.
MAN... i like your style to talk. I have sometime problems to understand .... but i understand you clearly. And of course im an enthusiast too. I feel sorry for the failures in the bike parts.... man... this could get really worse. I was always interessted into other brands and maybe i try some from Ali. Thanks for he view into it... Greetings from germany. Thumbs up!
Considering the budget orientation of this channel, wouldn't it be cool to do a conversion of a aluminium hybrid disc brake bike into a winter road bike using Aliexpress components? I scored a 100£ 3x8 hybrid which I am reworking into a 2x11 gravel bike. Just an idea, also something a bit different, without replacing the sweet carbon aero bike😁
The problems you had with the frame were simple and not structural. That’s what is surprising. Makes my $1400 revolt look like a stupid buy considering my mechanical skills.
TPU patch glue melts plastic including cycling glasses. So beware as if you get even a tiny amount on your hands and then touch your glasses they melt a smudge into them.
"tubes" I carried a pirelli version of a tubolito around for ever, finally got a flat on my tubeless mt bike that sealant wouldnt fix. The ultra light/ultra expensive tube leaked right outta the box, and no known patch will stick to the plastic tube. So a zero out of zero on function, but it did cost 36.00. So there's that. ------------------------------------------------------------ Before that I tried an off brand latex tube, 2 of them, in my old road bike....Vittorias were not to be had. The bonded on patch the valve stem is a part of? Came off. Both tubes. Another zero out of zero function item.
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 Hey. Could you check out a gravel frame from ChasingWind? The price is crazy and it's getting popular on aliexpress. I know that reviewing this aliexpress stuff costs you a small fortune, but if you're gonna be looking for something new, just keep it in mind, ok? I love your channel and I wish you all the best.
Still waiting till you get your hands on a Lexon Mission frameset and the brand new LTWOO RX hydraulic groupset. Thank you for reviewing aliexpress parts!
Here’s an idea for a video, or a series of videos, a review of your build vs subscribers builds, happy to put my a Ribble SL with 11s sram red Etap I built using a mix of new and pre owned parts up to scrutiny…………I’m a fellow oxon resident as well 👍 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
got my first chinese carbon frame (Delihea Rest) in september, spent about 400 km on it before the end of the season - very satisfied with it: feels much stiffer, lighter and even faster then my previous Trek alu frame. and also more comfortable, rides really smooth. had zero issues with assembling. now looking for another one for gravel build.
Great video as usual, such an inspiration! I can also recommend, as a fellow Siroko rider, the J1 jacket and BX Envalira bibs, my new favourite pieces for under 5 C degrees 😄
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 fresh from the boulangerie! Was worried you'd left RUclips Luke, I've been staring forlornly at your channel icon hoping for an update for what feels like weeks...😂 As usual your video left me satisfied and eager for more. Roll on the mad four-piston brake review! Be interesting to see if they're noticeably stronger.
thank you for another quality content luke! looking forward to your review for the latest LTWOO RX Hydraulic groupset. Nobody does these in-depth review like you do. cheers mate!
🥖🥖🥖🥖 as a french man I must give you 🥖 for this cool video , first I saw 29min I thought "he is going to speak about his life" but no i love your hack and the tests that I don't want to expérience. But now please attack the juin tech GT because the price is much more expensive 400$ and I need good disc brake for a tandem, so please post your video
I'm pretty sure I saw you ride past my house in Marston a while back - It was the fluorescent diamonds on the wheels that gave you away! Love the content - hope it's going well since you went full time 🥖
27:59 please don't trash yourself like that. You alone had developed a channel with tens of thousands of subscribers. Have invested substantial amount of money on bike components off brand from AliExpress to test then so we don't have to
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 Another 'CRACKING EPISODE'! Thanks Luke. My recommendation for non-cracking bars are ones made by EC90. 2k miles on mine, still super lovely smashin' smooth!
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 - The baguette was this week added to UNESCO's "intangible cultural heritage" list. Saw Macron holding one at a press conference, no mention of Trace Vélo though, who really made it happen.
Loved the GCN HQ bit. Having said that, I did just buy 105 hydraulic, so can't really talk... 🥖 x 8. Didn't you show a 3d printed saddle in a previous video? How did that work out?
My identical frame set and wheels bike I finished last March after 2 years build ,rides very well. Look at your front and rear frame covered in crud from the wheels. I ran clear 3M tape from under headset down frame and under BB, also down the wheel side of the rear frame. That shot blasting will ruin surface of carbon and allow moisture to work its devilish way. 3M tape I used as a chain stay protector too.
I also bought a 'cheap' aero frame on AliExpress. I had to re-engineer the head to stop it coming loose, using wood filler. The front shifter cable wasn't properly supported at the bottom bracket area, and the wire started cutting into the frame. I could've taken the BB bearings out and re-routed the cable under the bearings and drilled a hole down at a near-vertical angle so that the wire probably wouldn't cut into the carbon fibre. But I decided to go 1x11 instead. In that set-up it works fine now. But I've also recently modernized a 1980s steel frame Nishiki Olympic with brifters and 2x9 speed. I finished the year riding the Nishiki preferentially. It's a couple of kg heavier but that isn't really detectable while riding. Riding with a steel frame just feels like riding a real bike.
Hey Luke, do you ever worry that something will snap before a visible warning crack appears? I think it would just spoil my enjoyment constantly worrying that the bars could shear off at any moment.
Yeah so it's a good question, but no not really. Carbon fibre is more like wood when it fails, it won't necessarily just snap instantly into two pieces. It tends to splinter like a piece of wood, so you can often feel it splintering before it fails entirely.
@@TraceVelo I speak as a an Olympic/Paralympic mechanic, I've seen failures that come with no warning, and I do worry. You've got such a lovely face....!
Ok fair enough, you sound far more qualified than me!! 😂 I think it does depend on the use case aswell tbh. I mean I would argue they are fine for the average cyclist, but if you are an Olympic athlete you should prob spend more than £60 on a set of handlebars. I take your point tho, you do need to be careful with this stuff, hence the importance of the first 500 miles.
@@TraceVelo keep up the reviews though. Besides the generic frames/wheels/bars etc, I find the groupset development parts far more interesting. I guess you'll be trying to get your hands on one of the new full hydraulic groupsets that have just been released. Will be interesting to see if the OE market starts to tap into these cheaper alternatives. We were building bikes with Microshift 12 years ago, but it was pretty small scale tbh (working at Moda bikes at the time).
Another great video, entertaining as ever. 🥖🥖🥖.However i am not really sure how you fixed the seat clamp by putting packing around the bottom of the seat post.🤔
I hope, the new ltwoo groupset with hydraulic brakes, show up on your doorstep. I'm very interested in how well they work and last. I had built a Velobuild bike. Everything went together pretty much flawlessly. So far impressed. Can't wait for spring, hoping for a mild day in Canada for my first ride.
Honestly, who gets up in the morning goes to work and drills those holes in that stem and thinks- "good job"?😐 Great vid as always, my favourite channel across all my hobbies and interests.👍
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 + (2) bonus 🥖🥖 Another great video. As always, you're Luke. And I'm Brooke. And I need you to do a budget Ali MTB build. Oh, the possibilities with AliExpress shocks and dropper posts. Some day, man, some day.
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 Gracias ....or should that be merci, for another great video Luke. Hoping you can elucidate what saddle bag you're rocking there at 18:48, under your creaky saddle. Looks sleek, even svelte !. Plus de baguettes!! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
Always a joy to see a Trace Velo upload, merci Luke 🥖 thanks for the content and introducing me to Ali Express. Sensah first timer on my gravel build after your own gravel build 👍🏻🥖
So LTWOO apparently offers its first real hydraulic groupset now. For under 200usd msrp it looks like a total steal. Any chance you can get one for a review?
Yeah good question. So still going strong actually, just havent had much opportunity to get out on it recently... Really need to change that, it's such a nice bike to adventure out on!
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖Actually very interesting the difference in stack between the two bikes. A 25mm 40mm+ is massive and highlights the marketing B/S based on that. However, is that relevant with a aliexpress frame that is from a non-mainstream builder. That has no real real world continuity between frames (perceived)?
RXL SL isn't a brand or manufacturer, it's a knockoff logo for Bontrager. I don't know why you subject yourself to these bars. Even if they were brilliant, you can't pin down who made them, and it's such a detail-sensitive part that the next set could just as easily be trash. Very hard to recommend something if you can't have confidence your viewers will have the same experience.
Safety critical equipment is designed with a large margin of excess load, generally like 5x the load its going to experience in the real World. The cracked stem could not have underwent any testing and was definetly not compliant with acceptable standards in the Western World. That was a deathtrap, a broken stem at 35 mph could result in death. I guess the philosophy of the idiots manufacturing that stuff, is that bikes are not that much of an issue concernig public safety, if it looks good it will sell. Its a differrence of cultures, stay safe, just pay for Shimano and you know you have the best.
that's unfortunate to hear about the rxl sl bar. I agree the design is shit on that bar. However, I purchased one of their traditional bars (non-integrated) and it is going exceptionally well after 500 miles of abuse. It is their super lightweight model, it weighs 180g so I was kind of expecting it to crack but its taken sprinting and everything just fine. I didnt use a torque wrench, i just tightened it in increments until the bar could no longer be rotated in the stem (I used a lot of force to test). Generally, I think the one piece integrated bars are a no-go but the regular ones seem good, mainly because it seems they present less engineering problems.
i wonder how long it woul long if 110 kG monster of a guy sat on it... Grats to all 60 70 kg guys wh ocan sit on shitty bikes which survives ok udner them :) Great video as usual. Thanks. Ah, wanted to suggest the tape too for creaking :)
Just one honest question, please: Is there any warranty or disclaimer on those parts? If a person is injured or dies from an handlebar\fork\seatpost failure... thats it? Cheers and thank you.
The 'disclaimer' for parts of an unknown quality is good common sense. It's very unlikely that in this case the retailer will openly admit to probable parts failure resulting in injury or death...they just wouldn't sell anything. As for a warranty, well if it breaks you contact the retailer and show proof of failure. Then just hope they refund your money. It's another matter if you are injured or killed. There is very little legal recourse when buying from this type of retailer. The Consumer Rights Act 2015 and The Sale of Goods Act 1979 (for purchases made before 1 October 2015) says that any goods you buy must be: Of satisfactory quality, fit for any particular purpose made known to the seller and as described. But I don't think aliexpress is overly concerned about that. It's a issue if you have some form of bike insurance that covers personal injury. Fitting what could possibly be sub-standard parts, knowingly, may void any claim made.
Thank you for enlightening. I´m still amazed such business can operate in EU whilst if I, as an EU resident, provide any kind of service or product have to go through a very strict scrutiny.
@@wsbygt E-retailers in the far east don't operate within any EU territories...They are based and supply from outside any legal frame work that protects the rights of the end consumer. The laws of one country or state do not impact the actions of another if no treaty exist. This is the ultimate expression of 'Caveat Emptor'.
Now I know why my old steel bikes are faster than most of the new fancy carbon Roadies. I can smash on them as hard as I want without fear of anything breaking.
Got an aeronova integrated cockpit and applied a lot of force by hand and it broke😱 I contacted the seller he refund me but I do not trust that brand anymore
Ohh ok. I'm planning a video around this topic soon, I dont suppose you have any pictures/video of the break do you. I would love to see them if you do: tracevelouk@gmail.com
Just wanted to thank you for risking your life as a Chinese bike parts tester so we don't have to! ❤ Here's a 🥖 for your efforts
The only thing he's tested that I've been comfortable buying is cassettes. Always entertained though!!!
Its ALL Chinese.
94% of all bikes/parts are manufactured in China.. what are u riding ..
@@philipsimmonds1103 it's not where something is made it's the company and the workers that determines good or bad products.
@@glennoc8585 they have the supply chain 2 the most resources .. workers have become highly skilled .. easily building the best quality product on the market ..
ie trek/giant/specialized/bianchi/scott
Best cycling channel on RUclips. Baguette about it.
This guy literally is risking his life and safety to make videos for our enjoyment. No one, except for this guy willing to do what he is doing. kudos to you bro! He deserves a like and a subscribe.
fr tho
Go to love Luke.
You think testing out bike parts is risking your life?? Hardly Lol
Here are people who really risk life every single time they go into work:
Infantry deployed into an active war zone
Police and first responders
Iron workers
Construction workers
Rough necks (oilwell workers)
Fishermen
Cough cough… Houston jones
Cheers Marcus, what a wicked comment! Please accept this humble 🥖as a token of my appreciation
I did 3000+ on my 4 year old AE carbon frame. Its visually identical 2 yours. Its still running great. I also torqued everything properly
I've used these common AliExpress carbon seatposts for years on all my bikes. I'm 6ft4 and not light and they have served me well. One failure, this summer. Saddle started rocking and the rear bolt had broken and damaged the carbon. 2012 I put it on. I adjust my saddle a lot due to back problems so I'm not surprised. It didn't fail dangerously, enough warning things were going south. I fitted a new one. They seem to have beefed up that rear section.
Remark :the aluminium seatpost you used previously is unsafe because the rail clamping area is too short for carbon rails
You should have used a saddle with metallic rails
Yeah this is a great comment, I'll check it out this eve see if it needs some attention!
Luke: let's crack on
Seatpost, handlebars: and I took that personally
🤣
What's the point of 4 piston calipers on a road bike? It just adds weight, complexity, cost, and it might wear down the brake rotor faster.
Bigger floating rotors make more sense.
Also, i will never use integrated stem handlebar.
👏👏$$$$ 9 piston calipers comming soon!!!
You are pure gold Luke. Thank you so much for your precious videos. Lots of useful tips and high quality content for free during these years. You are finally receiving the attention you always deserved. Since there isn't a subscription option I will gladly drop a lot of 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 to you. ❤️
Francesco, thanks so much, what an awesome comment 😊BAGUETTES FOR EVERYONE!!!!! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
Dropping them 🥖s for the most relatable cycling RUclipsr. Hopefully you can get your hands on the Ltwoo RX Hydraulic groupset. Could be a game changer if it's good.
Please accept this official _Trace Velo_ baguette as thanks for this comment 🥖
Thank you for testing out. It’s very dangerous and I appreciate you
8:08 LOL seriously that was on point XD Another trigger that they actually replied to me once was when I commented about single pivot rim brakes!
🥖 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖In my shop I don’t recommend anything more than 20mm of spacers under the stem. Honestly 40mm is a big risk, you might even be better off cutting the steerer shorter and fitting an aluminium steerer extension to the top. At least then the carbon will be Reinforced by a thick aluminium clamp and you will have a solid aluminium steerer to fix your bar to. BBB make one, it’s called a BHP-22, just Google it. 👍🏻🙂
Safe riding Sir.
Interesting... I found my set uses the same "smaller" break pads at the front and back on my BR-005 set. Other people have reported that their version uses larger break pads.... seems there are different versions of these brakes out in the wild, under the same model name. I hope somebody can clear this mystery - and here 8x 🥖 for your efforts 😎
Hmmmm interesting, maybe the have been through a couple of interations. I wouldnt be surprised with the number of differences from the previous generation...
@@TraceVelo you are spot on with changing the brake pads. The original copper pads reduced breaking power over time and showed a lot of wear. After 1000km I changed to similar resin-metal brake pads which improved the performance… The Juintech GT‘s might be overkill on a roadbike…. I use Juintech F1‘s in the Swiss Alps without desire to go full hydraulic 😁
Wonderful account of the build journey and experience! Thanks for all that you do!
THANKS JACK 😁Also you're very welcome!
@@TraceVelo 🎉
I have been doing handmade carbon components for sailing and biking over the years. If you want to add some strength to the fork steerer, and you have an old 1" O.D. steerer or are willing to buy some 1" carbon tubing, you can make an insert and epoxy it into the steerer. This will double the wall thickness and increase peace of mind. Cheers/
When i want to build cheap bike someday, u'll be on the top of my mind
Also give the road avid bb7s a try. They are amazing, and you can find a used set for relatively cheap. Then just a simple rebuild and they are as good as new. I find that their braking performance rivals even the best hydros.
I don't see them avail in flat mount
@@hkchew03 Some of his bikes aren't even flat mount but for the ones that are an adapter could be used.
@@Drago0900 road bike mostly if not all are flat mount, at least those that came out in the last 5 years. And not all frame will be able to fit the adaptor
@@hkchew03 Yeah not every frame in existence but in the video you can see a post to flat mount adaptor in use on the fork. And in the last 5 years would be 2017 and later. Which flat mount wasn't really common until around 2020, which is the really new bikes. My road bike has post mounts and it's a 2018 model.
@@Drago0900 that's a flat mount to flat mount adaptor
Seat post bolt I would drill slightly and insert a metal sleeve insert. As for the sealant on the seat tube, I would have made a simple guard to shield the area.
I've seen that done, using zip ties and a length of MTB inner tube. Makes a decent gaiter for almost no money.
@@BrianRPaterson just split balling ideas for you.
Loved the Christmas dinner comment of your Mum🤣.
Your vids are both informative and extremely witty. Thankyou…
I live in Hong Kong and it is so much easier and cheaper (half the price) to buy these parts but I would never, due to the QC issues and the unfriendly traffic on public roads. If a stem or a rim fails, I would end up at the bottom of a lorry. Now thanks to you we know what parts are a safer bet.
If you flipped the stem you could lose some of those spacers. That would also reduce the leverage and save some weight !
Smashing review Luke.
Those pedals must be terrible quality. I have a very old pair of entry leval shimano SPD SL. They have done many thousands of miles and still the bearings are like new.
Also, you have more spunk than me for trying out those cheapy bar clamps. I just would not trust them.
All the best Andy
4 N-m is at the low end for that stem bolt, especially considering that there was only one bolt. So no, you definitely did not apply too much torque to that bolt. That was a defect or poor design issue.
I think carbon has had its day, even the expensive brands dont last and crack n split, plus carbon is overpriced, people should stick to Steel, Aluminum and Titanium.
Its ok for the pros, they don’t pay for their bikes just given a new bike when needed.
MAN... i like your style to talk. I have sometime problems to understand .... but i understand you clearly. And of course im an enthusiast too. I feel sorry for the failures in the bike parts.... man... this could get really worse. I was always interessted into other brands and maybe i try some from Ali. Thanks for he view into it... Greetings from germany. Thumbs up!
Considering the budget orientation of this channel, wouldn't it be cool to do a conversion of a aluminium hybrid disc brake bike into a winter road bike using Aliexpress components? I scored a 100£ 3x8 hybrid which I am reworking into a 2x11 gravel bike. Just an idea, also something a bit different, without replacing the sweet carbon aero bike😁
I love your content. Can't wait for the review of the groupset. Especially the hydraulic one ltwoo made 👀🥖
is it oficially released by now? Couldnt find it on Ali a week or so ago.
I had seen it on alliexpress. To bad I had already built my new velobuild.
Yeah I've literally just bought it on AliExpress about 5 mins ago.... Just need to wait 6 weeks for delivery 🤣
@@TraceVelo 👍😁
@@TraceVelo hell yes!
If you can fit that vinyl between post and frame then there’s a size/fit problem!!
If you buy cheap, you buy twice!
The problems you had with the frame were simple and not structural. That’s what is surprising. Makes my $1400 revolt look like a stupid buy considering my mechanical skills.
Great video. Thank you Luke.
TPU patch glue melts plastic including cycling glasses. So beware as if you get even a tiny amount on your hands and then touch your glasses they melt a smudge into them.
"tubes" I carried a pirelli version of a tubolito around for ever, finally got a flat on my tubeless mt bike that sealant wouldnt fix.
The ultra light/ultra expensive tube leaked right outta the box, and no known patch will stick to the plastic tube.
So a zero out of zero on function, but it did cost 36.00. So there's that.
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Before that I tried an off brand latex tube, 2 of them, in my old road bike....Vittorias were not to be had.
The bonded on patch the valve stem is a part of? Came off. Both tubes. Another zero out of zero function item.
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 Hey. Could you check out a gravel frame from ChasingWind? The price is crazy and it's getting popular on aliexpress. I know that reviewing this aliexpress stuff costs you a small fortune, but if you're gonna be looking for something new, just keep it in mind, ok? I love your channel and I wish you all the best.
Still waiting till you get your hands on a Lexon Mission frameset and the brand new LTWOO RX hydraulic groupset. Thank you for reviewing aliexpress parts!
Here’s an idea for a video, or a series of videos, a review of your build vs subscribers builds, happy to put my a Ribble SL with 11s sram red Etap I built using a mix of new and pre owned parts up to scrutiny…………I’m a fellow oxon resident as well 👍 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
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got my first chinese carbon frame (Delihea Rest) in september, spent about 400 km on it before the end of the season - very satisfied with it: feels much stiffer, lighter and even faster then my previous Trek alu frame. and also more comfortable, rides really smooth. had zero issues with assembling. now looking for another one for gravel build.
Nice, pleased to hear it. I've never ridden one myself, but i have heard good things about Delihea frames!
@@TraceVelo you should try it 😁
Great video as usual, such an inspiration! I can also recommend, as a fellow Siroko rider, the J1 jacket and BX Envalira bibs, my new favourite pieces for under 5 C degrees 😄
Yes,absolutely satisfied with Siroko products-good quality/price ratio and a nice design! 🤙
Cheers Federico! Love your stuff btw. I need to take a leaf out of your book and post videos more often!!!!
@@TraceVelo would definitely welcome more of your videos! You also contributed for me to get my Velobuild, partly your "fault" 😄
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 fresh from the boulangerie! Was worried you'd left RUclips Luke, I've been staring forlornly at your channel icon hoping for an update for what feels like weeks...😂
As usual your video left me satisfied and eager for more. Roll on the mad four-piston brake review! Be interesting to see if they're noticeably stronger.
Thanks for testing chinese stuffs unbiasedly
Finally a different name, bonjour Luc
thank you for another quality content luke! looking forward to your review for the latest LTWOO RX Hydraulic groupset. Nobody does these in-depth review like you do. cheers mate!
🥖🥖🥖🥖 as a french man I must give you 🥖 for this cool video , first I saw 29min I thought "he is going to speak about his life" but no i love your hack and the tests that I don't want to expérience. But now please attack the juin tech GT because the price is much more expensive 400$ and I need good disc brake for a tandem, so please post your video
(I am a dumb American)For a second thought the bike was heavy as f*ck when you said “1000 lbs”(what I heard).
I'm pretty sure I saw you ride past my house in Marston a while back - It was the fluorescent diamonds on the wheels that gave you away!
Love the content - hope it's going well since you went full time 🥖
That GCN office bit had me in stitches 😂
Little bit cheeky on my part, but it's gotta be done 😂
@@TraceVelo Please keep up the amazing Videos Luke. The welcome to another trace velo production gets me every time too 😂.
27:59 please don't trash yourself like that. You alone had developed a channel with tens of thousands of subscribers. Have invested substantial amount of money on bike components off brand from AliExpress to test then so we don't have to
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Another 'CRACKING EPISODE'! Thanks Luke.
My recommendation for non-cracking bars are ones made by EC90. 2k miles on mine, still super lovely smashin' smooth!
Yeah I have heard good things about EC90 stuff... 🤔
So, short version: Chinese manufacturers are perfectly capable of CNC machining aluminum, but they're terrible at laying up carbon fiber.
Great content as always, love the long term testing that you do on all these parts!🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
As they say in France muchas gracias 🥖🥖🥖🥖
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You're like a tyrannical kings taste tester.
L-TWOO just launched their new hydraulic disc brakes group set will you going to buy and test it in the future？Very nice episode by the way 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
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🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 - The baguette was this week added to UNESCO's "intangible cultural heritage" list. Saw Macron holding one at a press conference, no mention of Trace Vélo though, who really made it happen.
I take full credit for this of course🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
Nevermind the bike, I want to know why Brits always start sentences with the word "right."
Right, well thats actually a pretty good question... I have no idea...
Bonus clip time 😂 here, have a 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
My Shimano 105 pads front and rear are the same size. Both 7000 and before.
Just 8 baguettes? That's not even enought 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
All credit to you, Luke, as Ive never seen a better advertisement for buying a reputable bike from a reputable retailer😂
Don’t kid yourself,neither exist anymore 😢
@@okantichrist 😂
Cadeau: une 🥖directement envoyée depuis le pays de la 🥖! Bisous
Risking Death ☠️ so we don’t have too 👍
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Loved the GCN HQ bit. Having said that, I did just buy 105 hydraulic, so can't really talk... 🥖 x 8. Didn't you show a 3d printed saddle in a previous video? How did that work out?
Nice to see an honest review without any BS. Have a baguette or 2 🥖🥖
My identical frame set and wheels bike I finished last March after 2 years build ,rides very well. Look at your front and rear frame covered in crud from the wheels. I ran clear 3M tape from under headset down frame and under BB, also down the wheel side of the rear frame. That shot blasting will ruin surface of carbon and allow moisture to work its devilish way. 3M tape I used as a chain stay protector too.
I also bought a 'cheap' aero frame on AliExpress. I had to re-engineer the head to stop it coming loose, using wood filler. The front shifter cable wasn't properly supported at the bottom bracket area, and the wire started cutting into the frame. I could've taken the BB bearings out and re-routed the cable under the bearings and drilled a hole down at a near-vertical angle so that the wire probably wouldn't cut into the carbon fibre. But I decided to go 1x11 instead. In that set-up it works fine now. But I've also recently modernized a 1980s steel frame Nishiki Olympic with brifters and 2x9 speed. I finished the year riding the Nishiki preferentially. It's a couple of kg heavier but that isn't really detectable while riding. Riding with a steel frame just feels like riding a real bike.
Hey Luke, do you ever worry that something will snap before a visible warning crack appears? I think it would just spoil my enjoyment constantly worrying that the bars could shear off at any moment.
Yeah so it's a good question, but no not really. Carbon fibre is more like wood when it fails, it won't necessarily just snap instantly into two pieces. It tends to splinter like a piece of wood, so you can often feel it splintering before it fails entirely.
@@TraceVelo I speak as a an Olympic/Paralympic mechanic, I've seen failures that come with no warning, and I do worry. You've got such a lovely face....!
Ok fair enough, you sound far more qualified than me!! 😂 I think it does depend on the use case aswell tbh. I mean I would argue they are fine for the average cyclist, but if you are an Olympic athlete you should prob spend more than £60 on a set of handlebars. I take your point tho, you do need to be careful with this stuff, hence the importance of the first 500 miles.
@@TraceVelo keep up the reviews though. Besides the generic frames/wheels/bars etc, I find the groupset development parts far more interesting. I guess you'll be trying to get your hands on one of the new full hydraulic groupsets that have just been released. Will be interesting to see if the OE market starts to tap into these cheaper alternatives. We were building bikes with Microshift 12 years ago, but it was pretty small scale tbh (working at Moda bikes at the time).
Another great video, entertaining as ever. 🥖🥖🥖.However i am not really sure how you fixed the seat clamp by putting packing around the bottom of the seat post.🤔
love your vids, but why not buy a larger frame ?
At least it looks amazing from the start
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Yeah, freaking great so far... Review in the works!
It's 33C in Melbourne today. Feel sorry for you buggers ☀️😎
Crazy aeronova is using the logo of argon 18. that’s not ok I think!
I hope, the new ltwoo groupset with hydraulic brakes, show up on your doorstep. I'm very interested in how well they work and last. I had built a Velobuild bike. Everything went together pretty much flawlessly. So far impressed. Can't wait for spring, hoping for a mild day in Canada for my first ride.
Great video as usual !
Honestly, who gets up in the morning goes to work and drills those holes in that stem and thinks- "good job"?😐
Great vid as always, my favourite channel across all my hobbies and interests.👍
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Another great video. As always, you're Luke. And I'm Brooke. And I need you to do a budget Ali MTB build. Oh, the possibilities with AliExpress shocks and dropper posts. Some day, man, some day.
Someday Brooke... I will do a MTB build. There is SO much choice on AliExpress for MTB parts, it has to be done!!!
@@TraceVelo just think of all the AliExpress MTB kit you can try as well, a whole new opportunity for a different clothing sponsor 😆
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🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 Gracias ....or should that be merci, for another great video Luke. Hoping you can elucidate what saddle bag you're rocking there at 18:48, under your creaky saddle. Looks sleek, even svelte !. Plus de baguettes!! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
So it was a saddle bag from a brand called Ostrich... I got it in 2018 from PlanetX in the UK. Not sure if they make them anymore unfortunately
@@TraceVelo Thank you 🙏. Had a look online but no joy - looks like they're not made any more. Ahh....the search continues...
Your front calipers are br-005 v2 and the rear ones are the v1. My both calipers are v2 with same pad size. 🥖
Always a joy to see a Trace Velo upload, merci Luke 🥖 thanks for the content and introducing me to Ali Express. Sensah first timer on my gravel build after your own gravel build 👍🏻🥖
So LTWOO apparently offers its first real hydraulic groupset now. For under 200usd msrp it looks like a total steal.
Any chance you can get one for a review?
They cost 500 eur right now in Aliexpress. 200 quid is well, a dream for now...
Top video as always 👍🏻 I've tried a couple of AliExpress carbon handlebars and had problems with them all, so now use a name brand handlebar.
Yeah the last few bars i had from AliExpress have been a bit crap tbh... Time to explore some slightly more premium options I think!
How is that gravel bike build working out? Haven't heard anything since you built it?
Yeah good question. So still going strong actually, just havent had much opportunity to get out on it recently... Really need to change that, it's such a nice bike to adventure out on!
Which 12 speed groupo have you liked better. Sensah or Ltwoo?
These TPU inner tubes only last about 2500km then it starts leaking like a sieve. 10 patches later, I gave up on them
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However, is that relevant with a aliexpress frame that is from a non-mainstream builder. That has no real real world continuity between frames (perceived)?
RXL SL isn't a brand or manufacturer, it's a knockoff logo for Bontrager. I don't know why you subject yourself to these bars. Even if they were brilliant, you can't pin down who made them, and it's such a detail-sensitive part that the next set could just as easily be trash. Very hard to recommend something if you can't have confidence your viewers will have the same experience.
Safety critical equipment is designed with a large margin of excess load, generally like 5x the load its going to experience in the real World. The cracked stem could not have underwent any testing and was definetly not compliant with acceptable standards in the Western World. That was a deathtrap, a broken stem at 35 mph could result in death. I guess the philosophy of the idiots manufacturing that stuff, is that bikes are not that much of an issue concernig public safety, if it looks good it will sell. Its a differrence of cultures, stay safe, just pay for Shimano and you know you have the best.
The Italian's often used to say what looks right, is right. The opposite is also true mate
that's unfortunate to hear about the rxl sl bar. I agree the design is shit on that bar. However, I purchased one of their traditional bars (non-integrated) and it is going exceptionally well after 500 miles of abuse. It is their super lightweight model, it weighs 180g so I was kind of expecting it to crack but its taken sprinting and everything just fine. I didnt use a torque wrench, i just tightened it in increments until the bar could no longer be rotated in the stem (I used a lot of force to test). Generally, I think the one piece integrated bars are a no-go but the regular ones seem good, mainly because it seems they present less engineering problems.
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@@TraceVelo Yeahh.. Baguetes for you, sir... 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
i wonder how long it woul long if 110 kG monster of a guy sat on it... Grats to all 60 70 kg guys wh ocan sit on shitty bikes which survives ok udner them :) Great video as usual. Thanks. Ah, wanted to suggest the tape too for creaking :)
Just one honest question, please:
Is there any warranty or disclaimer on those parts? If a person is injured or dies from an handlebar\fork\seatpost failure... thats it?
Cheers and thank you.
The 'disclaimer' for parts of an unknown quality is good common sense. It's very unlikely that in this case the retailer will openly admit to probable parts failure resulting in injury or death...they just wouldn't sell anything. As for a warranty, well if it breaks you contact the retailer and show proof of failure. Then just hope they refund your money. It's another matter if you are injured or killed. There is very little legal recourse when buying from this type of retailer. The Consumer Rights Act 2015 and The Sale of Goods Act 1979 (for purchases made before 1 October 2015) says that any goods you buy must be: Of satisfactory quality, fit for any particular purpose made known to the seller and as described. But I don't think aliexpress is overly concerned about that. It's a issue if you have some form of bike insurance that covers personal injury. Fitting what could possibly be sub-standard parts, knowingly, may void any claim made.
If you buy through Ali Express you can raise a dispute if the seller does not provide quality goods
Thank you for enlightening. I´m still amazed such business can operate in EU whilst if I, as an EU resident, provide any kind of service or product have to go through a very strict scrutiny.
@@wsbygt E-retailers in the far east don't operate within any EU territories...They are based and supply from outside any legal frame work that protects the rights of the end consumer. The laws of one country or state do not impact the actions of another if no treaty exist. This is the ultimate expression of 'Caveat Emptor'.
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As they say on the continent... No hay problema señor
Great video well done explaining the ifs and buts of chinese parts!
Now I know why my old steel bikes are faster than most of the new fancy carbon Roadies. I can smash on them as hard as I want without fear of anything breaking.
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Got an aeronova integrated cockpit and applied a lot of force by hand and it broke😱
I contacted the seller he refund me but I do not trust that brand anymore
Ohh ok. I'm planning a video around this topic soon, I dont suppose you have any pictures/video of the break do you. I would love to see them if you do: tracevelouk@gmail.com
@@TraceVelo I sent you a picture demonstrating the issue of a no quality control product 😱
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