Mastering really is a different art. By that point your ears are tuned to your mix, and probably your ears and even you physically are fatigued. A mastering engineer's fresh perspective is really invaluable for the project
I'm in the same situation and personally use Izotope Ozone 10. It uses AI to help set a decent starting point and then you can adjust from there. It's not mindbogglingly amazing but it's definitely not awful either
Ozone and Abbey road tg mastering are two brilliant easy to use programs. A cheaper alternative would be to make your own mastering chain using the plugins that came with your daw.
I'll leave a day or two and it's a whole new person listening, hahaha. Saves you a lot of money and at the end of it, if you know it doesn't sound right you're golden. You just tweak it until it does. Giving to someone else only if you're giving it to the best of the best and even then your "vision" of the song (how it should sound like) will not be there, because for the "next person" you are just another "work". Nuff said. :))
Yea your vision will be out the window because you sent it to a mastering soecialist who is going to brkng that wow factor and open up your mix. Very rarely does a master soujd worse than the mix thats the point to master it. Idc how good you are the people who master for a living are better
@@juliuscesar7126 Nope. Think again. If it's "work" for you and have no personal attachement to the song it could be liberating to some degree but at the same time "you don't care as much" ... They are good for the "average" results, but for the best of the best, (larger than life mastering, deep, wide, bold, exciting, so you go crazy etc.), maybe 1 of 2 in the world. So thanks, I will do it myself, 100 times better than 99% of the mastering studios. I have proof of my work here on youtube and comments (the best remaster on youtube etc.)from the people when I was doing mastering on other songs (I remastered some songs from the 80's) - It's better to learn yourself how to do it. You care the most. It takes time, a lot of mistakes, but it's worth it. You don't want someone to destroy your song after months or even years of hard work just because they think they know how to do it, because they have a 200 000 or 500 000 dollars studio and a tons of high end gear ... It's O.K. to give your mix to someone just to see what they will do but maybe 1 out of 100 will be what you're looking for if you have high standards. If you don't, you're right. Just give it to mastering studios. It will be "the industry standard mastering" haha. :))
@@b.hornetiii.6771 those people have half a million dollar studios because they are the best they are professional. It doesnt happen by accident. They are trusted in the music community to master to the best of there ability. Its like saying i wouldnt take my son to learn basketball from michael jordan because he has 6 championship rings and has a lot of money……. Maybe he has those things because he has earned them and the bumfuck charging $100 to master a song from his moms basement hasnt
@@b.hornetiii.6771 you proved my statement by saying 1 out of 100 its possible. Im not looking for the 99 and wouldnt settle for them i go to the creme de la creme always. Dont half step. Its like saying oh youll never be rich dont even try its just a 1% chance. Well ill take my chances because its POSSIBLE. Its not impossible to get a good mix from a mastering engineer lol its what they do. Its like saying you wouldnt hire a licensed contractor to frame your house when he has 30 years experience doing it you would rather do it yourself because you “care more” and nobody care more than you. Thats fine but when your house come tumblijg down on yohr head because you really didnt know what you were doing your going to wish you went with a pro. Not saying you cant become pro yes you can learn mastering but the EXPERIENCE. Takes years doesnt matter how well your first master was itll nowhere be as good as your 1000th masterp
@@juliuscesar7126 Well, O.K. If you go for the creme de la creme than it should be good. Mastering and mixing you can't compare with other stuff, other stuff you see (video, movie, beeing rich, the house is not good etc. etc., here there are ears and 101 variant of a master. It can be this way, or that way, or maybe like this, haha. But If you're happy I'm happy. :))
Production is more about trying to get everything on point. Perfect tempos, perfect EQ work, the best tone and flow, stuff like that. Mastering is different as you want to make things a little over driven, leave it a little nasty, and maybe boost things overall.
In my younger days, I bought a lot of records, and anything from Epic Records always sounded thin, lacking in punch and vitality. Unfortunately, that included the albums of Edgar Winter and related acts. I've always suspected it had something to do with the mastering stage. It wasn't until I started buying the CD versions of those albums that I finally got to hear something a lot closer to sonic reality. Mastering can do more harm than good, IMHO. Somewhere in the vinyl chain of command, things were being tweaked in such a way as to sap whatever fury there was in those studio master tapes. In today's digital world of audio, I equate "mastering" with "brickwall processing".
Fresh set of ears; Very important and helpful.
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Glad it was helpful!
even the pros like another perspective. 👍🏽
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Absolutely correct, Warren! Always a good idea to have another professional set of ears on the final work. 💯👍🏻
Thank you so much Warren for your help information you share and the way you share peace
Fresh eyes and ears …but I suspect that on more than one occasion there’s been a WTF moment in the playback 😆
Mastering really is a different art. By that point your ears are tuned to your mix, and probably your ears and even you physically are fatigued. A mastering engineer's fresh perspective is really invaluable for the project
If you were a home recordist doing your own stuff, with no real budget for mastering, how might you handle it?
I'm in the same situation and personally use Izotope Ozone 10. It uses AI to help set a decent starting point and then you can adjust from there. It's not mindbogglingly amazing but it's definitely not awful either
Ozone and Abbey road tg mastering are two brilliant easy to use programs. A cheaper alternative would be to make your own mastering chain using the plugins that came with your daw.
@@jamielofts I’ve got some stuff including Abbey Road. Ozone was pricier.
put L3 and L2 in the very end of the stereo output chain with 1.5 dB threshold each 😂
@@mrsnoo86 As in L2A and L3A?
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I'll leave a day or two and it's a whole new person listening, hahaha. Saves you a lot of money and at the end of it, if you know it doesn't sound right you're golden. You just tweak it until it does. Giving to someone else only if you're giving it to the best of the best and even then your "vision" of the song (how it should sound like) will not be there, because for the "next person" you are just another "work". Nuff said. :))
Yea your vision will be out the window because you sent it to a mastering soecialist who is going to brkng that wow factor and open up your mix. Very rarely does a master soujd worse than the mix thats the point to master it.
Idc how good you are the people who master for a living are better
@@juliuscesar7126 Nope. Think again. If it's "work" for you and have no personal attachement to the song it could be liberating to some degree but at the same time "you don't care as much" ... They are good for the "average" results, but for the best of the best, (larger than life mastering, deep, wide, bold, exciting, so you go crazy etc.), maybe 1 of 2 in the world. So thanks, I will do it myself, 100 times better than 99% of the mastering studios. I have proof of my work here on youtube and comments (the best remaster on youtube etc.)from the people when I was doing mastering on other songs (I remastered some songs from the 80's) - It's better to learn yourself how to do it. You care the most. It takes time, a lot of mistakes, but it's worth it. You don't want someone to destroy your song after months or even years of hard work just because they think they know how to do it, because they have a 200 000 or 500 000 dollars studio and a tons of high end gear ... It's O.K. to give your mix to someone just to see what they will do but maybe 1 out of 100 will be what you're looking for if you have high standards. If you don't, you're right. Just give it to mastering studios. It will be "the industry standard mastering" haha. :))
@@b.hornetiii.6771 those people have half a million dollar studios because they are the best they are professional. It doesnt happen by accident. They are trusted in the music community to master to the best of there ability. Its like saying i wouldnt take my son to learn basketball from michael jordan because he has 6 championship rings and has a lot of money……. Maybe he has those things because he has earned them and the bumfuck charging $100 to master a song from his moms basement hasnt
@@b.hornetiii.6771 you proved my statement by saying 1 out of 100 its possible. Im not looking for the 99 and wouldnt settle for them i go to the creme de la creme always. Dont half step. Its like saying oh youll never be rich dont even try its just a 1% chance. Well ill take my chances because its POSSIBLE. Its not impossible to get a good mix from a mastering engineer lol its what they do. Its like saying you wouldnt hire a licensed contractor to frame your house when he has 30 years experience doing it you would rather do it yourself because you “care more” and nobody care more than you. Thats fine but when your house come tumblijg down on yohr head because you really didnt know what you were doing your going to wish you went with a pro. Not saying you cant become pro yes you can learn mastering but the EXPERIENCE. Takes years doesnt matter how well your first master was itll nowhere be as good as your 1000th masterp
@@juliuscesar7126 Well, O.K. If you go for the creme de la creme than it should be good. Mastering and mixing you can't compare with other stuff, other stuff you see (video, movie, beeing rich, the house is not good etc. etc., here there are ears and 101 variant of a master. It can be this way, or that way, or maybe like this, haha. But If you're happy I'm happy. :))
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Production is more about trying to get everything on point. Perfect tempos, perfect EQ work, the best tone and flow, stuff like that. Mastering is different as you want to make things a little over driven, leave it a little nasty, and maybe boost things overall.
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In my younger days, I bought a lot of records, and anything from Epic Records always sounded thin, lacking in punch and vitality. Unfortunately, that included the albums of Edgar Winter and related acts.
I've always suspected it had something to do with the mastering stage. It wasn't until I started buying the CD versions of those albums that I finally got to hear something a lot closer to sonic reality. Mastering can do more harm than good, IMHO.
Somewhere in the vinyl chain of command, things were being tweaked in such a way as to sap whatever fury there was in those studio master tapes.
In today's digital world of audio, I equate "mastering" with "brickwall processing".