@@hocus1springlocks? I was springlocked once. They put me in a suit, a sprincklock suit, a springlock suit with springlocks, the springlocks made me always come back.
2 Mimics walk into a bar then one Mimic said "Bar?! I was in a bar once, I was in a bar one like this, with another Mimic, the other Mimic made me crazy" and the second Mimic replied "Hey, can you hear me Hello"
To me, the simplest thing would be for Help Wanted and Help Wanted 2 to be as closely tied together as possible: Like taking Help Wanted 2's "Welcome Back" in the trailer to mean that HW2 is welcoming a character from HW1 back. If we're not Vanny or Tape girl in HW2, then Jeremy is the only other character from HW to pick. That "thing that looked like a halloween mask" from HW was actually just a mask: a Vanni mask. He had to chop it off because he was locked into it and couldn't deactivate the security post. Removing the Vanni mask by guillotine makes Jeremy's actions make a lot more sense. Why would someone try to cut off their own face? Because something was on their face that they needed off. The Vanni mask was a piece of that we didn't have and didn't put together when Ruin happened. Steel Wool is saying "hey, when you saw the Vanni mask in Ruin, you all should have thought of Jeremy's face and WHY he would chop it off" This means that the Candy Cadet story's scar was Jeremy being cut by the guillotine. The return for revenge on the witch is Jeremy returning to end Glitchtrap. And then he ends up trapped in the Pizzeria Sim "oven" - Henry built it to be an oven after all. The guide that turns out to be the witch: Helptrap guiding Jeremy through the "woods" of the Vanni network. Jeremy escaped the AR woods once in HW, and then he returned in HW2. That's the simplest I can come up with: the Cadet Story doesn't reach beyond the HW games for Gregory or anything this way.
In addition, Jeremy and his family filed a lawsuit against Fazbear, knowing what Fazbear is like, they possibly gave him the job as a technician at the Pizzaplex so they would not have to pay for the injuries.
I agree with all of that but the "Helptrap" because I think it's clear that Glitchtrap is simply using Helpy to trick Cassie's dad. He's not Helpi himself. He's just using Helpy to manipulate Cassie's dad because he's a Fazbear worker and Helpi was supposed to be helping the workers.
If Bonnie bro is Cassie's father AND Jeremey from FNAF2, we could have Mike's "accomplice" in trying to bring down the company. They were the same age, they were friends, they both did that to Bite Victim. He doesn't "randomly" decide to get a job; he choses too, with Mike. Perhaps he becomes a "minion" of sorts, like Mike is; both boys under threat by William to work at the FNAF2 location under some sort of duress. A common theme that keeps coming up is Afton, even an AL mimicking him, is abusive/manipulative/controlling of others/people who are younger than him/weaker than him. Perhaps by the time Afton has disappeared in the 1990s Bonnie Bro is just a lifer at the company; his friend Mike has disappeared by now, or only wants to communicate with him at a distance now (letters, calls, e-mail). Perhaps the mimic AI in the VR game finds him as a tester and is happy to abuse him again; sees him as vulnerable from everything that has happened. He falls into it easily; Maybe the Birthday-maze sequence in Help Wanted1 is him getting captured; it's his memories of the old building, his memory of knowing someone, or something lured the children away And the paper slicer; what if that was to remove the chip in his head? I feel like the outer design of the Vanni mask is meant to imply it is an "old" design and is not "new". It was "made" in the halloween DCL (curse of Dreadbear) and Tapegirl thought she saw a halloween mask on the floor.
I was thinking Bonnie Bro is Jeremy Fritzgerald and the victim of the Bite of 87, then the mimic AI learned of that incident and replicated it on Help Wanted 1 Jeremy
Yea it would be nice if they could also give us a direct confirmation that tells what glitchtrap actually is. Is he a revived digital version of Afton or is he just a out of control AI recreation of him. So far there is evidence for and against both of those theories and I think enough time has passed for a proper answer to be given about which one was correct.
@@Gigi4u I honestly think the fact that Glitchtrap mimicked Tape Girl’s voice, just like Helpi and Mimic, is saying a lot. And the fact that there was meant to be a secret unlock, a tv screen with an image of an Endoskeleton that says ORIGIN 👁️👁️
@@gameslayer3976 honestly that's not enough evidence. Enerd mimict Elizabeth to try to trick Michael so why wouldn't glichtrap try the same when he was trapped in the VR game. Also why is the mimic so much taller and stronger than burntrap when there are soposedly the same, why dose the mimic not have the same degree of control over the anementronics as burntrap has and lastly how and why did he get sealed behind a wall. I just can't fully except the mimic is glichtrap theory as fact because there is just to much contradictory evidence that gets in the way of the theory. That's why I hope one day scot or a future game will concretely say what Is true or not.
I think Bonnie Bro being Jeremy Fitzgerald poses an interesting question: what if William only killed a child named Jeremy because the Bonnie Bro was also named Jeremy. Out of all of the bullies, only two of them had a part in picking up the Bite Victim: Michael and the Bonnie Bro. I could see William holding a grudge against Jeremy more than any of the other bullies (excluding Michael, because William got his revenge against him in a different way). For whatever reason, maybe William was unable to kill him or was afraid of killing an older teenager, so instead he decided to kill a child with the same name and stuffed him in Bonnie to match Jeremy’s Bonnie mask as a form of sick retribution. As a result, Bonnie Bro/adult Jeremy might feel some sort of responsibility for the MCI Jeremy’s death and the MCI as a whole, which gives his character even more of a motivation. Or, seeing as Fritz Smith is often assumed to be a fake identity for Michael and is also the name of one of the missing children, maybe Bonnie Bro was using Jeremy Fitzgerald as his fake identity for the purpose of getting closer to Freddy’s just as Michael had.
I love this idea of Jeremy Fitzgerald being Bonnie bro and the main protagonist of HW 2. The story that entails then - especially with William killing a kid named Jeremy for a sick retribution - is one of the best in the series
Now if is true, i think toy bonnie can be the animatronic who did the bite instead of mangle, cassie says that bonnie *was* cassie's favorite character, fnaf lore just rip off popgoes lore every time 💀
@henriquefigueiraferreira1608 There's a lot more evidence to suggest that Mangle is the one who caused the Bite. I highly doubt that Toy Bonnie's teeth would even be sharp enough to take out an entire frontal lobe. Interestingly enough, there's also zero evidence to suggest that Jeremy was the one who got bit, so it very well could have been someone else. I'm also very skeptical of the idea that FNAF is "ripping off" Popgoes considering that Toy Bonnie causing the Bite is 100% headcanon.
As a devout Mario fan, I can tell you that you spelled the word “Odyssey” wrong in different ways on both the title and thumbnail. Edit: Nevermind, birdman fixed it
Good video, some minor points I'm not sure of, but I do fully agree on people overcomplicating things, but to be fair to them Security Breach didn't help as along with it being the only game we had for a while, plus a lot of references to prior events. Burntrap upon initial glance seeming to just be Afton returning, etc, I don't blame them. Sometimes for a lack of answers you look to the past for parallels (which leads to stuff like Baby mentioning pretending in SL means she's the Mimic, or Gregbot, or Burntrap literally being Afton returned), and thankfully Steel Wool has done a great job in quickly course correcting (even Tales helped out a lot) the story that Security Breach didn't get to tell for one reason or another. Probably the most direct questions we've had answered in a series of games in a while for the series, makes me very excited for whatever the next game will be.
I would like to note that in the fnaf 4 minigame the ones holding the cc are Michael and Bonnie bro which explains why he might have more guilt than the other bullies also implies that Michael and Bonnie bro where the ones to put the cc in fredbears mouth which would make them directly responsible and fitting that both spend their lifes trying to atone for their sins
Fazbear Entertainment has a history of sealing up walls to rooms with very questionable things left/trapped in there. The reason Springtrap has it's name, then continued on to become Scraptrap, is because Afton is trapped inside of it. What if Glitchtrap is a "Glitch" trapped in the digital world and is trying to break out into the physical world multiple times through different avenues? Maybe it is Mimic1.exe scanned off an old circuit board (like the one one the back of Sun/Moon's head) and through this VR conversion with other salvaged data (again; Fazbear is known to always try to salvage to save money) encounters the story of the MCI through the haunted memories that we have been shown to be "held" onto by the animatronic's haunted metal and the arcade machines. It takes on/mimics the persona of Afton and decides have Vannessa salvaged Burntrap and repair it (maybe he is still physically alive, unable to die like Mike). But that doesn't work, as we know... So It goes for it's second option (or the order could be reversed) And has Greggory go deeper to 'visit' the original Mimic. Maybe it doesn't react well, so Greggory runs and accidentally Drops the walkie-talkie. Then what Ruin ends up being is Glitchtrap and Mimic the robot agreeing to work together now that they've had time to "talk it out" at a safe distance?
this has to be my favorite HW2 theory, it just makes sense without making things weird or overly complicated with unecesary details. I used to be a burntrap = Mimic endo believer, but tbh this theory changed my mind. Greatly explained overal !
@@ZavoyHarwood he’s essentially saying that Burntrap isn’t Afton and it might be Mimic Endoskeleton, but it’s also possible that it is a separate Endo under Glitchtrap that is merely in proximity to Mimic.
If all the speculation about the player's identity being Jeremy AND Bonnie bully comes out as true, we may retroactively have in our hands one of the best characters in FNAF ever.
Another amazing theory!!! I do agree that Cassie’s Dad is the Bonnie Bully (though less convinced on Jeremy). Honestly I’m kind of annoyed by it though since it feels like Steel Wool is really trying to nostalgia bait with these. Like with the memory dolls and Springtrap. Being the Bonnie bully doesn’t do much for his character (I did see your section but I think all of those traits could also be applied to someone just needing work. Idk I think FNAF needs to just move on. Still loved the theory!!!
if cassie’s dad is jeremy fitzgerald and he’s living through his memories, is it possible that he worked at sister location at some point? we know that SL *does* have technicians, and cassie’s dad *is* a fazbear technician. i don’t know if, with lefty and scrap baby being there, this would mean that he’d worked at fnaf 6’s location too? it’s possible that michael would’ve needed some help running the restaurant? hm. this could mean that jeremy was michael’s accomplice the whole time, which is nice to think about. could also explain why he waited so long to have kids? if he only started looking after the fnaf 6 fires after he thought everything was done… this is getting kinda fanfic-y
Uum, correction: While sister location DOES have technicians, they uhhhh... hang out like pinatas for a while... Yeah... So it's not possible for Cassie's dad to be one of those technicians because he would be 'hanging out' and Cassie would not exist. Just saying-
@@Moonlight_0419 i’m not saying he’s one of the two technicians we met, there are presumably more technicians working there than just those two. even if there ARE only two of them, it’s possible he worked there earlier and then no longer did by the time of sister location
I do like Mat Pat's new theory that says we have 2 mimics, the Pizza Plex Mimic system, and the old endo mimic, old endo being primitive, and the Pizza Plex being advanced, but there will always be holes it is fnaf
I've heard a theory that maybe glitchtrap and Tigerrock Are Not attached to the mimic indo even though they originated from it, But I really do like your theory about all this stuff (:
i feel like if old man being omc is true than that strengthens cassidyprincess if the red character is the red character, then the gold character should be the gold character theres a lot of colours besides that type of yellow, which is an important colour in fnaf as a whole, and the princess really just doesnt resemble vannessa in any way
While yes I see the color connections and think that both Cassidy and Vanessa are possible options for the princess. Cassidy we see in UCN and in promotional art is very odd(and is depicted with brown hair[this is debatable]) while Vanessa has golden blonde hair, is a security officer at Fazbear’s, and under Glitchtrap’s control. The Princess is seen lighting 16 torches(same amount of tapes from HW), being overpowered by Glitchtrap, meeting OMC, showing up in a Security Office, and then opening the gate Vanessa was trapped behind in HW1.
And getting the Glitchtrap Plush from the Pizzeria, the Mask from the Corn Maze, and a key to confront Glitchtrap. In HW2 she passes on the torch to someone else.
@@gameslayer3976 ive mentioned it in other comments, but using the door at the end of the minigames as evidence its Vannessa is dubious at best, since it means that Vannessa is simultaneously outside and inside of the cell but for some reason still needs to open the door despite already being outside of the cell it makes far more sense for the partial repeat of HW1 to just be copying the steps that lead to the glitchtrap encounter so that whoever the princess actually is can confront him not to mention that if the princess is Vanessa, than why would glitchtrap allow Vanessa (the supposed princess herself) to have constant access to the arcade machine in her own personal base? out of anyone Vanessa should have the most control over Vanessa, which should mean the princess is at her most effective, so why wouldn't glitchtrap force her to hide the machines away like how Balloon World is hidden away?
We really need better distinction between The Mimic robot and the mimic_01 AI because I think it might be a case of them being one at the start, but then as the Mimic's AI got duplicated for more animatronics, as posited by the books, perhaps one specific *fork* of the Mimic AI, the one sent to the gamedev studio for Help Wanted, proceeded to mutate into Glitchtrap, making them separate entities from one origin point. Burntrap would be a mimic model with the Glitchtrap AI, while the Ruin Mimic is one with the *original* program, not the mutated Glitchtrap one. Or perhaps only with hints of Glitchtrap depending how deep its influence has spread in the Pizzaplex. I'm only halfway through the video so if I get more thoughts they'll be in the replies
I don't think Mimic endo's parts were used to be scanned to make the VR game. I think it was the FNAF 1 robots and FFPS ones, which is only Scraptrap. Why not Mimic? Because according to Gregory, Mimic has been down there "for a very long time". And it has been locked there even in Ruin. If they used Mimic parts to scan, then how could it have been stuck down there for that long?
@@xM0nst3Rx As this comments states, there were multiple copies of the Mimic AI. On top of this, we don't know how long passed in between the creation of HW and the Start of Ruin. Could months, could be a year, could be multiple years, we don't know. And as a counter to the scanning in Scraptrap, why would Fazbear Entertainment A. Take a charred burnt chip covered in flesh out of a rusty old rabbit costume B. Proceed to leave that Rabbit costume behind instead of scrapping it for money or parts (With your explanation of Glitchtrap, this is the only way Burntrap works besides him being non-canon, which we know is unlikely) C. Scan that burnt flesh-covered chip into a game D. Procceed to then put the chip back into Scraptrap so it can be functional (Again, this is the only way Burntrap works in this version of events) For what reason? Why would they do all of that instead of scanning in one of the Many Mimic1 programs they have lying around in storage?
@@MicahIsBatman2 Actually, we do know. HW 1 takes place in 2024, while the events of SB happens in 2035 because of the evidence we have from the picture frame of two workers in SB. Let's say Ruin takes place 1 year after SB so it's 2036. "A. Take a charred burnt chip covered in flesh out of a rusty old rabbit costume" What happens in "The Man In Room 1280"? Don't the hospital, which is probably a reference to the Fazbear Entertainment in the games, also take William's burnt corpse? What's the difference? Plus Burntrap is made by using a Nightmare Endo(?) and parts from Scraptrap. Plus the drawing from HW 2 in FFPS level that FuhNaff had shown in his latest video has Helpy and Scraptrap escaping from my findings. He didn't even got burnt enough to die, he escaped the building. "B. Proceed to leave that Rabbit costume behind instead of scrapping it for money or parts (With your explanation of Glitchtrap, this is the only way Burntrap works besides him being non-canon, which we know is unlikely)" Because whoever the person who is currently controlling Fazbear Entertainment seems to be helping William/Glitchtrap. They even let Glitchtrap take control over the AR game which William used to collect Remnant. And we know that they only got his chip. They only sent his slightly burnt chip to the game developer company who were making the VR game. Surely whoever the owner of Fazbear Entertainment is not wanting him to be found, and is helping him. We don't know who the owner is so we have to wait and see. "C. Scan that burnt flesh-covered chip into a game" From how it's described, I think the fleshy parts were not much. I think only William's skull was left on Scraptrap. And two of his finger bones, as seen on Burntrap. William is basically just his skull now. He consumes Remnant to regenerate his body/flesh, like we see on Burntrap. "D. Procceed to then put the chip back into Scraptrap so it can be functional (Again, this is the only way Burntrap works in this version of events) For what reason?" What? William is a virus-soul now, he doesn't need that old chip anymore. Plus this explains how he was able to make Burntrap his new host. That's why he lost his control over Gregory in the first place. Gregory was his host. It's why Gregory has a hard time remembering his old name. Or why he thinks that he's homeless. He's been the host of Glitchtrap for so long now that he forgot who he was or what he's been doing. Look at GGY for reference. So, no. A chip isn't needed for William to haunt and make someone/something his new host. "Why would they do all of that instead of scanning in one of the Many Mimic1 programs they have lying around in storage?" Well for your information, the first Mimics to be introduced in the games are the Funtimes. They are all Mimic AI if you think about it. That's how Fazbear Entertainment was able to code Helpi, a Mimic AI who was programmed to help the workers who wore the VANNI mask. And Glitchtrap is far from that, if him being able to choose a person or a robot endo as his host is not enough evidence for you. And also for him to be able to still have control over the animatronics and Vanny while Burntrap has become his host, then he needs to be something more than an AI. We know that souls can be shattered into pieces in FNAF. The same applies here.
@xM0nst3Rx "What happens in "The Man In Room 1280"? Don't the hospital, which is probably a reference to the Fazbear Entertainment in the games, also take William's burnt corpse? What's the difference? " William in this story has already been extracted from Scraptrap. He has no animatronic parts left, there is nothing to scan into the game. The hospital also is not Fazbear entertainment. William's last request is to go to Fazbear entertainment, which he does, and then he explodes. The spirit (Cassidy), lets him move on, and he finally dies. It's more of a parallel to UCN. "Plus Burntrap is made by using a Nightmare Endo(?)" no? As far as I'm aware, there is no version of events where the nightmares have Endos anything like what we see in Fnaf 4. The Nightmares probably had an Endo closer to the Twisted Ones. ". Plus the drawing from HW 2 in FFPS level that FuhNaff had shown in his latest video has Helpy and Scraptrap escaping from my findings. He didn't even got burnt enough to die, he escaped the building." The picture only has Helpi. Helpi is probably the Mimic1 software, as it clearly has communication outside of the Vanni network, and it straight up can communicate directly with the Mimic . It's eyes also turn orange throughout the game. We also see Helpi (Helpy is a different character. We know here it's Helpi and not Helpy because of the file name) disappear from the monitor only after you kill Glitchtrap. Throughout the game, we also see Helpi telling you to collect Glitchtraps figures, which end up being a trap, which gets you killed and turned into a Staff Bot by Glitchtrap. If Scraptrap is in that picture and is holding Helpis hand, that would actually lean more towards Glitchtrap being the Mimic, as we know for sure Helpi is the Mimic. If Scraptrap and Helpi are holding hands, I view them as either working together, or which is more likely that they are one in the same. "Because whoever the person who is currently controlling Fazbear Entertainment seems to be helping William/Glitchtrap. They even let Glitchtrap take control over the AR game which William used to collect Remnant. And we know that they only got his chip. They only sent his slightly burnt chip to the game developer company who were making the VR game. Surely whoever the owner of Fazbear Entertainment is not wanting him to be found, and is helping him. We don't know who the owner is so we have to wait and see." They would have to have had multiple people down there, it would have been too dangerous. On top of that, the owner of Fazbear Entertainment can't be controlled by Afton until the Glitchtrap virus is created, which doesn't happen until after they scan the chip into the game. It doesn't make sense for them to go down there and not retrieve all of the scrapped Animatronics. We also know for a fact the fire did a lot of Damage to the animatronics, like how Burntraps endo is completely different, or how Scrap Baby and Molten Freddy have been almost completely destroyed (The Blob is not either of them.) In order to get down there, they would have to uncover Aftons remains from beneath the Fnaf 6 pizzeria, and they wouldn't know how far down he is. It would cost a lot of money, and it doesn't logicly make sense to find a chip, that they have no idea what it could do, when they have spares lying around in storage, and a computer program that Mimics what it sees. That FuhNaff video also has an entire section about the Mimic being Glitchtrap. "What? William is a virus-soul now, he doesn't need that old chip anymore." There is nothing for Glitchtrap to posses if there is no chip. "Plus this explains how he was able to make Burntrap his new host. That's why he lost his control over Gregory in the first place. Gregory was his host. It's why Gregory has a hard time remembering his old name. Or why he thinks that he's homeless. He's been the host of Glitchtrap for so long now that he forgot who he was or what he's been doing. Look at GGY for reference. So, no. A chip isn't needed for William to haunt and make someone/something his new host." Gregory is Human. A human's "Chip" is it's brain. It can't posses an Animatronic if it has no brain, or "Chip" "Why would they do all of that instead of scanning in one of the Many Mimic1 programs they have lying around in storage?" "And Glitchtrap is far from that, if him being able to choose a person or a robot endo as his host is not enough evidence for you. And also for him to be able to still have control over the animatronics and Vanny while Burntrap has become his host, then he needs to be something more than an AI" An Ai can also be in multiple places at once. It can be two separate programs, or it can also be uploaded to a server, but both ways tell us that it can 100% be connected to both Vanny and Burntrap at the same time if it's an AI. @@xM0nst3Rx
@@MicahIsBatman2 1. Like I said, books are not %100 canon. Maybe only the trilogy books are very close to being the same as the game story but all the others are just used for metaphor. Mostly the book trilogy matters tbh and William never died in the trilogy so even that one has very big changes from the game lore. And nope, "The Man In Room 1280" only shows us that UCN is actually a dream that William sees while being in a coma. And it shows that William survived the fire. The drawing in HW 2 FFPS level also proves this. 2. Why I said that about Burntrap is because his endo is not a Glamrock endo nor any of the endos that we have in the games. Plus, Mimic also has one hand that is the same as Burntrap, and considering that Mimic is found in Sister Location (The Fourth Closet), and because Nightmare experiments also took place in SL (seemingly because of the blueprint of the location), it would make sense to say that Burntrap has a Nightmare endo. It has 5 fingers, which only Nightmares and Spring Bonnie does in FNAF. Golden Freddy also has 4 fingers now. 3. Nope, that drawing has two stick figures in it. I think you missed the clearly drawn figure right next to Helpy who is holding a wand. Do you know who also has wands? Wizards. How is William made to look like in the Afton family remake of Staff Bots? A Wizard. How Glitchtrap calls himself as in GGY? A Wizard. :D Scraptrap isn't holding Helpy's hand. He's holding a wand, and seemingly making magic if you look closer, you can see that. And yes, Helpi is a Mimic AI who was programmed to be a helper AI to the workers who wear the VANNI mask. I presume you didn't watch FuhNaff's latest video about HW 2 so let me tell you: in the FFPS level in HW 2, we put the chip that we take from Baby in SL to Helpy's brain. And that chip is the Mimic AI. And Glitchtrap is not Helpi, he's just using Helpi as his puppet to manipulate Cassie's dad. If you noticed, we never see Helpi in HW 2. And we know that all the workers have an implanted chip in their frontal lobe when they wear the mask. If ID's Fantasy is correct, Cassie's dad is Jeremy from HW 1. He cut the chip out of his frontal lobe so he no longer has Helpi in him. However, because Helpi was made to help the workers, Glitchtrap is making role as Helpi to manipulate him. It's why when we set Glitchtrap free, Helpi is shown as on a vacation. Basically Glitchtrap attached himself to Helpi in order to escape and when we collect his memories and set him free, he appears as Entity in Ruin. 4. That's the thing. Whoever the current owner is the one who sent old chips to the VR game maker company in the first place. And no, they couldn't have collected the other scrapped robots (other than Lefty) because they all got burnt and there were no usable chips on them. It's why only William survived out of all the others. As for Charlie, there seems to be evidence showing that she never got burnt as we didn't see her burning and the burners are only at one side in FFPS in SB. How do I say that Charlie is still alive? Well, she was able to make Roxy turn good in Ruin and even reactivated her after Cassie shut her system down. There seems to be so much bigger things going on around in the new era of FNAF. And in FFPS, it's shown that it's not underground. It's underground in SB because of a sinkhole. The whole place sinked down into a cave. Plus, they built the whole Pizzaplex on top of FFPS, so there's no way they didn't look around in it. So it wasn't really very down below. They had access when they were building the Pizzaplex. And from all that I've written, you should've realized that I disagree on that topic with FuhNaff. I can't say "Glitchtrap = Mimic" when all the evidence that I have points in the direction of William being Glitchtrap. However, that chip we take from Baby and the drawing in HW 2 are huge details that I don't think anyone noticed before. 5. I don't think you get what I mean. Does Glitchtrap has a chip that he's connected to in HW 1? He made the tapes that Tape Girl/Vanessa made as his host. He connected himself to them. Then later on, he connected himself to Vanessa. And then to the people that we play as in HW 1. There are multiple endings in HW 1 and all of them are bad endings. They all end with Glitchtrap escaping through someone's body. Multiple endings means multiple people as we don't know who the protagonists are. Random people who like to play that game, from what we get by playing HW 1. If this doesn't show to you that Glitchtrap is a soul who is able to shatter his soul to pieces, then I don't know what would. 6. Humans have soul. And I know that you are trying to tell me that because it's shown that Mimic AI can get into people's heads from that one story in Tales Books, you say that Glitchtrap can also be Mimic. But you miss very crucial details about the whole being of Glitchtrap. One, he's able to make Vanessa have Elizabeth's memories and even forces her already existing memories to be deleted. Second, he's able to exist in multiple people/robots at the same time. Third, he has a very complex way of thinking and is also a very good manipulator. Mimic in the "Monty Within" story is simple minded. It can't think too deeply. And it wouldn't have been able to do what Glitchtrap did in SB: to plan the deaths of 18 workers who got too close to finding out about Burntrap in the sinkhole, and to make their deaths seen as if they disappeared as they look like they're on a vacation in the company files. Could the Mimic AI do something like that in the books? As far as I know, no. And it only shows to me as an explanation to the existence of Helpi in Cassie's brain when she puts on the mask for the first time. Yes, Helpi is a Mimic AI and yes, he's inside Cassie's brain but he's only thinking in the way that his programming allows. If you noticed, Mimic never stops acting like Gregory. Even when it speaks through Helpi when Helpi's eyes turn orange, it doesn't drop the act of Gregory. It still talks with sassiness, like Gregory does. Helpi talks matter-of-factly. Helpi never tries to force Cassie to do something. Helpi only helps her. However, Orange Helpi/MimicHelpi always tells her to do something. 7. If Glitchtrap were to be a simple AI, then what reason is there for him to lose his control over Gregory in the first place? That's why Vanessa searches around for Gregory. William makes her look for Gregory because he lost his control over him and he doesn't want to lose a child that he can use to murder people undetected. Another thing is, if what you said was correct, then wouldn't it make sense for it to not be able to feel pain? None of the others feel pain. They don't scream in agony or even look like they're in any pain, even when they're badly broken down. However, at the littlest bit of fire, Burntrap gets hurt and can't continue to try and possess Freddy through the screen. In the end, how do you explain Burntrap losing his control over Tangle/Blob if he's an AI that can exist in multiple places at once? Why would fire even affect an AI when it can't even feel pain?
Hey for people who say its werid that Cassie dad is potentially around 50-60s while Cassie is around early preteen. Its not, that how old my dad is when i was around the same age as Cassie. Where i come from. It's a rather common thing since the man here tend to marry later.
Agreed! My dad had me and his late 40s and is currently in his early 60's. I'm a young teen right now so that checks out. I've seen people literally say that it's impossible for that to happen and I'm just infuriated because it is possible. Late, for sure, but it's possible.
Okay, minor crackpot theory: what if Vanessa is repurposing the Vanny outfit as, like, a vigilante trying to prevent the mimic A.I. from causing any more harm? This probably needs more research, but I'm throwing the idea out there.
It’d be less like possession and more like hijacking your nervous system to take over the brain, like how the Vanni mask is able to immediately hijack your brain the instant you put it on
The first bit of the video made me realize we still have a lot of unanswered questions regarding the plot of this new era in FNAF. Where did the circuit board with glitchtrap come from and how did Fazbear get it, who created the mimic and why is it underneath the FNAF 6 location, how did Gregory get possessed and later freed, etc. I hope we get some answers to those questions soon.
Would like to add something to your Jeremy section, mangle and Roxy are very similar characters (to the point where they are one of the main arguments for tangle being a storyteller, with it trying apply mangles personality to roxy) so if Jeremy worked at fnaf 2 and the 87 victim we might see a redemptive character arc (or something close) for Jeremy where he’s able to get over mangle attacking him to help repair Roxy to save his daughter,
@@Wizardjones69 sorry my mistake, but it doesn't quite work with cassies dad, we dont see him ever get associated at all with toy bonnie, only classic and glamrock, and the many roxy-mangle connections still need to be explained, and we dont have any aminotonic with a connection to toy bonnie that would be able to advance the story, |(glamrock bonnie has more connections to classic than toy)
@@thisnameanothername2156 bonnie doesnt mean specific version, its bonnie *character*, the "toy" name is for fazbear know which version of the character, but children and adults just call them their normal character name
Wouldn't Glitchtrap being in the system and controlling staffbots and also Vanny being there imply that the pq ending is SB isn't cannon? Because the second Glitchtrap is killed the staffbots go deactivate. And we see in HW2 that he's still in the system and controlling alpha staffbots to kill the protagonist.
This leaves two other bullies to flesh out. I've always had a hunch Freddy Bully(who is the ONLY one we see outside of the final night, he's the guy laughing at you in the street for being a cry baby, same shirt and skin tone and text color) alongside the other 4 outdoor kids would end up being DCI victims. Freddy Bully being Toy Freddy, girl with Toy Chica and the t-pose mouth open spite is Toy Chica, kid with the plushtrap toy is Toy Bonnie, Balloon Kid is Balloon Boy....and I guess creepy pigtail girl would be, The Mangle. Ok that last one doesn't fit as well, whatever, maybe she's JJ and Mangle is just Susie's dog I dunno. She's got the creepy starring down.
Personally I think that glitchtrap is made of the same program that the mimic is. Glitchtrap is made up of the same program mimic one but are separate entities with him choosing to mimic William and he's the mixed with a spiritual side being that he's infused with the agony and the tragedies around the Freddy's brand. Overall making glitchtrap another version of the mimic program that is mimicking William and is infused with the tragedies around the frazbear brand.
The thing with Burntrap is hes made ENTIRELY of reused assets and SW THEMSELVES Have sais that there was a lot of miscomunication between them and scott with SB wich explains the design change The mimic in ruin is a whole unique design SW made wich makes more sense then burntrap being made of nightmare assets when nightmares arent even real in the first place Also in the epilogues the mimic is described exactly how burntrap looks basically (sharp claws, rabbit ears, ribcage, these weird circular things on the endo, and also got springlocked multiple times explaining the springlocks) Burntrap is basically reused assets made to match the mimic from the epilogues but hes not different from the mimic in ruin since its just a design change
@@siresquawks bruh Go watch dawko's stream with SW pre-SB and at some point they point out that Scott just tells them to put stuff here and there or do this and that but never explaining why And Razz himself on a video about the FNAF movie set said that Scott told him when they were in the set of the fnaf movie that he was WAY more hands on with RUIN (cuz he wasnt with SB wich explains how SB is mad confusing and uncoherent and how RUIN is deadass the most straightforward fnaf game that actually has a narrative)
2:11 What's the best way I can explain it is that The Mimic and GlitchTrap were both made with the mimic 01 program but they split off differently because they were taught different things, The Mimic Endo in the basement just wanted to ripped everything apart meanwhile GlitchTrap came up with an elaborate scheme to take over the entire PizzaPlex with the help of his brainwashed minions, BurnTrap is the result of GlitchTrap overriding the original mimic program returning it to a physical form but that was a what if senerio and then somehow in Ruin they decided to team up you can tell with the Helpi and Grmimic conversation
Off topic, but. If I see one more video saying they SOLVED FNAF, I'm gonna... well, I'm not gonna do anything. But I'll be annoyed very slightly about it!
I might of misunderstood something but I'm a bit confused on vanny still being around. If Vanessa is free from glitchtrap shouldn't Vanny be gone, why would she still use the costume and graffiti stuff post SB. On an unrelated Ben 10 Omniverse game OST usage is based.
What makes you so special can relate to Maskbot himself, like what makes that s.t.a.f.f.bot so special. And Maskbot givining a mask to Roxy seems to follow from that.
Jeremy is literally the only 'Not Micheal Afton' character we play as pre-UCN. Fleshing him out makes sense. He survived the bite. I've also heard we might be getting more lore on Phone Guy and his role in the company in the 80s and early 90s. Perhaps the theory he got strongarmed into helping Willy run a guard harvesting operation will come up
Imo I think the story is better, at least from an understandability aspect, if it's just "Glitchtrap was William's spirit in the machine, possessed Vanny trying to use some strange experiment of flesh and robotics to bring himself back in a new body, mimic could be a part of it/a back up plan but is otherwise it's own entity, after Vanny is free she destroys what remains of Glitchtrap and Cassie ends up trapped in the ruins with the abandoned mimic." But honestly I'm not digging through the trenches of the fnaf lore/theories just trying to make my own sense of it with each game and occasionally taking note of whatever I cam gleam from videos that I'd agree with.
All we have to go off of is Cassie saying she got his message, and she has no idea why he's here, so there was no real clarification. So, it's possible it was just a generic call for help without addressing her by name, and she just went there because it's Gregory. Certainly a crazy bit of luck, especially considering that her dad had this whole ill-fated misadventure there beforehand, and it plays no role whatsoever in her motivation. What really messes with me is how she got the message. For a while, I thought it was implied that Mimic used the walkie to do that, but she shows up without one and finds the one she does have in Ruin at the Pizzaplex. It's not impossible that she had one, left it behind because she assumed he would just be there in the lobby (as the opening seems to imply), and by luck, found another one. It's just... stupid. lol
its still possible that the mimic was turned into burntrap, not burntrap into the mimic. ruin could show us the mimic that wasnt modified into burn trap.
I think the Ruin Mimic is the OG robot, a circuit board from it was scanned and that led to the Mimic1 program mimicking Afton and becoming Glitchtrap, and then glitchtrap eventually had Vanny recover his old burnt corpse and repair it so that it could have a body again.
I do not think there is any like, separate 'minds' of the Mimic. Tiger Rock shows us how the Mimic's digital avatar works, he appears in his Tiger Rock form, but in the same story he changes into an owl and one or 2 other forms. I feel like that displays that the Mimic's avatars are all just one entity wearing different faces. I also think that .Dr.Rabbit' is just Gregory under the Mimic's influence. The story alludes to him being a 'favorite apprentice'. And we can see bits of his behavior in Dr.Rabbit, just cranked up to 11. The way he lures the Glamrocks into traps and him showing hints of his hacking skills in Ruin. I feel like the reason he seems different is just whatever caused him to lose his memories.
Burntrap's ending actually sets up the sinkhole in ruin. A note in ruin explains that the sink hole was caused by something tunneling out of the underground, that would be the Tangle returning to the pizzaplex as Cassie discovers it in ruin. Cassie also uses said tunnel to access the stripped bare pizzeria simulator location via a cave system. The collapse caused by the tunneling also causes those areas to undergo reconstruction hence the masses of construction supplies found as Cassie journeys deeper towards the Mimic. If you combine the cutscenes from the security breach endings: Afton + Disassemble Vanny(opening) + Princess quest, you get the events discovered by playing ruin. This appears to be the canon ending to security breach, an amalgamation of many endings.
This genuinely helped me alot in understanding the mimic stuff that is going on. Unfortunately I am still not that into it as I'm still kind of confused and I am not very attached to most of the characters accept the human ones, minus the main character of help wanted 2 even with the theory I still don't really know who they are so it's still hard for me to care. That isn't your fault, in fact this was a great video.
So if the Bullies are now on the table, what if Jeremy Fritzgerald is actually one of the bullies, more theorizing, the Freddy mask one, then we could say the one who has the Chica mask could be the one who worked at the FFPS. Cause something didn't sit right was Henry's speech saying "And to you, my brave volunteer. Who somehow found this job listing not intended for you." Who was the job listening for if we were assuming we play as Michael? But it's the Chica bully, then it's a possiblity, this goes well with Scrap Baby's line "You're not who I expected to see." Also glad see Red king is now confirmed OMC, cause then can go back to speculating if PQ is a telling of Cassidy gaining the power from OMC to do things as Golden Freddy which all other animatronics can't do, even Baby. And also I'm still thinking Glitchtrap is William personally, doesn't fit well he is a random Mimic or AI which SB has PQ arcades working together like they are haunted, having PQ3 suddenly this one arcade had the power to erase Glitchtrap from the entire pizzaplex when it could have made copies and hidden EVERYWHERE, and of course the final nail, the now Memory dolls which fits into William, but if this was an AI created in HW, why or how would it know specifically the children and which bodies they hosted in?
The job wasn't intended for Michael, it was just a random job listing. That's why Henry says that. Michael has been a hermit for an unspecified amount of time at this point. It is unlikely Henry knew where he was, or that he was even still alive to attempt to bring him in for a job. Michael just showed up and took it, and that's when Henry realized who he was. If it was intended for Michael, that would mean Henry planned a way out for Michael, but randomly changed his mind to kill off the replacement. Doesn't make sense. The only one who would be willing to go with everyone else at that point would have to be Michael.
By the way, for the concrete wall, *they* didn't pour the cement, Gregory used the vent to lure the mimic. The cement was probably already there. The vent has fingerprints on it, and crumbled upon itself, so we can guess gregory lured the mimic inside the room using the walkie talkie, and made the vent collapse to trap the mimic
The fingerprints have 5 fingers, a right handed imprint. The only animatronic in that area that may have lost parts due to a vent collapsing is Mimic. And the only bot with a five fingered right hand is Burntrap.
I feel like the explamation of gpitchtrap being removed causing the mimic to longer pretend to be afton explamation is the most likely one, seeing that in tales, the priginal mimic looks like ruin mimic, and then the Mimic Ai endo in the tiger rock trilogy looks like burntrap, along with the epilouges mimic endo being speifircally stated to be exactly like burtrap, but then the next time we saw the mimic it was in ruin and it changed, probably free fdon the glitchtrap ai branch and therefore able to have its old form back, why would glitchtrap give it a weaker form? I honestly dont know, maybe so it resembles Afton more and thats why it told vanny to give it the springlokc parts, but apart from thagt possible and strechy explamation i have nothing.
If Jeremy Fitzgerald was the bite of 87 victim, then he'd have a severely aggressive personality. People who are gentle natured who suffer this kind of damage irl often do a 180° turn in terms of personality there are true crime books that can atest to this as well as medical books. Jeremy in this state would have to be on a ridiculous amount of medication to balance out his mental state. It's not impossible but incredibly difficult to make that kind of thing fit in here.
15:06 The thing is, if BurnTrap and The Mimic are the same entity, The Mimic being deactivated makes a whole lot of sense because I always wondered how GlitchTrap and Vanny were able to acquire The Mimic without being torn to shreds, not only that GlitchTrap was smart enough to get rid of the one weak spot on the back of its head the deactivation switch
Still think Afton is in Glitchtrap and DEFINITELY Burntrap And I do not think Burntrap is killed Since I think Aftons in Glitchtrap I think that the ending implies Afton is separated form Mimic1 and booted into Burntrap who is carried away by the Blob
Uhm in ruin we see mimic1 and he ain't possesesed in any way. We also see in tales mimic isn't possesed in any way TWICE they made thr point mimic aint possessed in any way at all afton isn't in there
@@ZavoyHarwood Mimic1 doesn’t have Afton so I’m not counting Ruin since by that time the Glitchtrap branch doesn’t exist And in tales Glitchtrap nor Burntrap appear except for being a presence in GGY not explained
@@GJMinions they still very clearly keep telling us in the story The mimic , tiger rock , storyteller, nexie, that *mimic isn't possesed in any way tales tell us this IN 4 STORIES making the very clear point they want us to know NOTHING is possesing mimic in any way AT ALL can't get more clearer*
To me everything seems simpler and to make more sense if we're playing as jeremy from hw1. We were never told if he died, he would have the knowledge and skills to both help glitchtrap and free vannessa, he would be horribly scarred and want revenge to fit with candy cadets story, the "welcome back" makes more sense as a reference to hw1 then to need a whole new backstory to explain, and when you pick up the bonny mask you get an achievement that says "remember jeremy" which is a reference to one of the game over quotes from hw1 referencing playtester-jeremy. It can still be bonny-bully but anything people try to connect to him just fits playtester-jeremy more you know? Except the bonnie obsession but if hes also cassie's dad that should explain it well enough. Plus to me candy cadet's stories tend to make more sense if we assume they connect to whoever we're playing as, one of the three stories in pizzeria simulator connected pretty well to michael, who we play as, the one in ruins, despite being difficult for a lot of people to connect to anything concrete, made a lot of sense if we assume it was about cassie and so it stands to reason if we look at this as less complex than we first assume the witches story might just be about hw2's player character whoever we may be.
In the story prankster (a story with jeremy fate but in reverse), his friend is tye guy who cut his face off, and he still alive after that, so i woudnt be surprised
It's also entirely possible that The Mimic's programming was corrupted by the Remnant, Agony and the incomplete memories of William Afton in addition to the data put into the VR game. This would have created Glitchtrap, who is an imperfect clone of Afton, a "MimicAfton" if you will. It thinks its Afton but it's only a fragment of his soul turned into a virus.
CC was 7(birthday cake candles Dreadbear) and bullies ~12-15. Occams Razor would have as many Jeremy's as possible be the same person. So I say all but the MCI Jeremy is Fitzgerald until proven otherwise. I wonder if Fritz or Gabriel's saga is next lol. I would love some closer for Phone Guy, and he could be one of the bullies. Either that or we are going full Storyteller and Fazmatrix. Dream Theory 2: Do robots dream of electric sheep? (And is that where you get Steel wool?)
Movie!Mike was 12 when Garrett dies at 4 years old, which matches up with your analysis. If we assume Bonnie Bully is the youngest of the group at 10 years old, that'd lend him at 65 during 2038, the date Security Breach happens in. If we assume Cassie is the same age as Gregory, she'd be 15 at that time, which would have her dad be exactly 50 when she was born. While that is relatively old to have a kid, it's still very possible, especially as a man. So the age thing isn't an issue imo
I feel like we're gonna have to wait until the next game to figure out what Vanny crushing Glitchtrap means. Kinda like Roxy's mask but way more important.
But William purple guy glitchtrap burntrap are the same entity person they have the same purple eyes have the same powers possessed control hypnotized to and there's a decoded message inside princess game glitchtrap William says let me out it's ME I always come back it's William that is glitchtrap burntrap to. And Mimic don't need a charging station at all William burntrap glitchtrap need a charging station for immortal remnants. You may not recognize me at first but I assure you it's still ME. It's still William that glitchtrap burntrap to. Glitchtrap spring Bonnie have the same purple bow tie they look like each other Vanessa has purple fingernail polish and also when William purple guy burntrap come out of the charging station there is purple smoke to. Glitchtrap burntrap springtrap scraptrap William all associated with purple and green to. Spring Bonnie and glitchtrap are both yellow. Bunrtrap don't mimic copy at all in first security breach mimic never mimic copy William at all and in the first security breach trailer this is both of you will burn that is William glitchtrap burntrap that has been in the fire been bunrt mimic Kelly were never in the fire to. How can mimic POSSESSED control hypnotized people and be glitchtrap Burntrap to MIMIC ai program robot would have to mimic learn copy that too from William springtrap scraptrap? William can possess control cuz William is a ghost and William is ghost he invisible to and the mimic can't see William at all and also how the heck can MIMIC be glitchtrap inside princess quest arcade machine game mimic would have to MIMIC copy learn that to from William springtrap scraptrap. Cuz it's a mimic ai program robot program to mimic copy learn behaviors to. Also also golden Freddy Cassidy is the gold princess with the golden sword that's fighting battle William glitchtrap burntrap there a red old man that is red like old man consequences in princess quest arcade machine game They were going to have the name in the files as Cassidy be the princess but they changed to the princess also glitchtrap suit it possessed by William IMMORTAL Remnant soul GHOST agony and William burntrap glitchtrap possessed the blob alagalmamtion tangle and princess Cassidy golden Freddy possessed the blob to And cassidy gloden Freddy princess William glitchtrap burntrap purple guy both immortal remnants souls agony both possessed the princess quest arcade machine game to. Also how can mimic be glitchtrap to in ruin when there two glitchtrap Black shadows on the wall to in ruin. Mimic has orange eyes And glitchtrap burntrap have purple eyes purple guy William. Also how the heck can mimic glitchtrap burntrap knows nanny staff bot that looks like ballora is Mrs Afton mimic don't know Mrs Afton at all only William bunrtrap glitchtrap know mrs.afton. Bunrtrap corpse is scraptrap burnt corpse bunrtrap has one of scraptrap foot and mimic Kelly were never in the fire to bunrtrap has yellow rotting bunrt human teeth mimic has white teeth and bunrtrap corpse been in the fire it a bunrt corpse William and springtrap scraptrap bunrtrap they all look alike they're all damaged they're all green they all have been in the fire bunrt corpse William. Literally said in book that springtrap is scraptrap William after fire William purple guy is associated with green and purple and rabbit to and glitchtrap burntrap springtrap scraptrap is to. Security breach was built over FNAF 6 Freddy Fazbear Pizza place ect.
But the Mimic1 program has the ability to get in peoples minds so it would make sense if Glitchtrap is Mimic1 also or where would Afton suddenly get the power to be put inside someone's mind, it's implied the Glitchtrap virus is inside burntrap that's why he has the power to take control of Freddy, also I'm the mimic and it's program are completely different just because something has the program doesn't automatically make it the mimic. It also works better if Glitchtrap is both of them which I just explained how that works.
The mimic1 program is not possessed but nothing says William could be in the vr game and he could have attached himself to the code in the vr game. Also burntraps Endo is completely different to the mimics and you can see springlock parts in burntraps endo
I was saying to a friend how funny it is that for a few years we’ve joke about there being multiple Jeremy’s like “haha isn’t fnaf so confusing there’s three different people named Jeremy” but it was funny because it was exaggerated it was never actually confusing because they all sat in different corners of the franchise in different eras. Now the multiple Jeremy’s is actually “ confusing “
I hate that matpat figured out thr bonnie bully thing before there was any real evidence then they confirm it encouraging matpats style of making up evidence out of nowhere
I'm not sure the player character(implied to be Cassie's Dad), could be either Jeremy. The game is telling us to "Remember Jeremy", as if talking about someone else who is not present (If it said "Remember, Jeremy", then it would sound as if it was talking to the player). So the game is telling the player character to remember what happened to Jeremy, probably the one who cut his face off (in an attempt to escape the VANNI mask, I'd guess).
You know what? After listening for theories about this, I think there are 2 AIs. 1 being glitch trap which corrupts people and can control them. The other being that old endo stuck behind that concrete wall which we free in ruin. These 2 definitely separate, because they even argue a bit with each other. So from this I think burn trap is simply glitch trap getting a real body and old endo is simply just an other AI, maybe a different version of the mimic AI, but burn trap is definitely not the old endo. What I think about this is for now, We should leave burn trap as glitch trap trying to escape the virtual world, and if It pops up in later games, with more information we can maybe define what it is.
Honestly I place Cassie's dad (assuming he's the Bonnie mask bully) at still being a bit old to have a 10 year old daughter at not quite as old as you. I'm btw running with the idea these events took place in approximately the same years the games got released which would place the crying child head chomping event as happening around 40 years prior. So yeah if we use your age scale that would mean Cassie's dad in his early to mid 50s.
23:01 Im sorry, but "The human body can survive without the frontal lobe" doesn't mean its fully functional. Without the frontal lobe, a person will most often become a comatose vegetable. The only way I could see Fitzgerald coming back from that is through remnant resurrection shit like with Mike, but we would need a character with the ability to resurrect him to have the motivation to do so for that idea to be even REMOTELY viable.
The steam page listing SL as VR simulations is kinda misleading, it says they are VR versions of the classic experiences in Fnaf SL, which is probably just talking about how the SL levels are now in VR
That HW1 dialogue that hints to Jeremy's death doesn't confirm anything. It also mentions a Halloween mask on the floor. To me, it is equally plausible that HW1 Jeremy had a VR accident with a V.A.N.N.I. mask as it is that he had a paper cutter death. Tape Girl is known to twist the truth, after all.
Tape Girl never “twists the truth”, Glicthtrap manipulates her tapes. We know this because Glicthtap mimics her voice, saying “Hello? Can you hear me?” When standing in the hub.
I have an idea. Its not quite a theory yet but what if the mimic has something to do with what happened at fall fest. It looks in line with the older animonatronics we have seen I just dont know what would have happened to cause it to go haywire
Well, the books explain what happened, controversial I know, but they also give direct answers to Tangle, Patient 46, Vanny/Vanessa, and Burntrap. The question is will we use them.
I’ve been resistant to Bonnie bro Cassie dad but hw2 makes it pretty hard to deny. It comes back to your simplication talk where with hw2 any theory I try to create jsut as a counterpoint where Cassie’s dad isn’t Bonnie bro that tries to explain all the little details ends up so convoluted that I can’t in good faith say that I don’t think Cassie’s dad is Bonnie bro.
Interesting, I assume it’s referring to Helpi being Glicthtap, as he aggressively urges us to assemble Glicthtap, allowing it to kill us. And Helpi has Purple Veins in Ruin, and Mimic eyes. Likely also telling us that Glicthtap is Mimic with Afton’s agony infecting it
I don’t really see why we’re assuming that the glitch trap we see isn’t just a glitch trap. Trying to control of Cassie‘s dad. As we see from Vanessa and Gregory, they basically have their own glitch trap plushy with them as they have their own alter ego. It could just be Vanny trying to stop the glitch trap program from making it a slave after what happen with Gregory as she sees her self, as the only one who can do it properly .
Cassie’s dad being the Bonnie bully completely destroys William as a character for me. His motivations for murdering the first 3 kids goes from “avenging his dead son by killing his 3 bullies” To “I’m guess I’m gonna kill some kids today lol.” He loses basically any sympathy or humanity he had as a character and becomes a complete joke of a villain. Additionally it hurts Gabriel, Jeremy, and Susie as characters too Since they just become some random kids who followed a bri’ish furry who randomly decided to kill kids that day.
I disagree. It only hurts William if you assume the bullies were killed in the first place, and build your assumption of William’s motives around that.
@@siresquawks hmmmm That makes sense. I guess I’ve never actually looked at it from the perspective that they weren’t the bullies. Though if true, I am at a complete loss as to what William’s motives would be in the case that they aren’t the bullies.
@@charadreemurr8673 Well that depends, my main take is they're a follow up to Charlie's death. After learning she can come back, he kills 5 kids to see if he can get it to happen again, starting his obsession with possesion. A new idea I'm pitching is that based on FNaF 2's statement that Fredbear's had original owners (implying it was owned by different people than Fabzear entertainment) and we see William in 4, and Henry is stated to make the classics in 6's insanity ending, that the dead kids could be a way of desecrating his new creations after Fredbear's closed.
@@siresquawks hmmm. That kinda makes sense but… There is a small issue. Why would Henry (or whoever) make the security puppet to protect children (specifically Charlie) if the MCI happened post Charlie’s death? The security puppet would have had to be built post MCI. I’ve always looked at it from the perspective that Henry tried to rebrand fredbear’s into Freddy’s immediately following the bite of 83 And that the MCI happens during the frantic chaos of the aforementioned rebranding. And then Charlie dies *after* the restaurant opens up again under the name of Freddy fazbears pizza. In which the place would quickly shut down And after the place got shut down, Charlie then revived the other kids that night. Freddy’s would inevitably reopen at a new location in 1987 (fnaf 2) Of course all of this relies on MCI 1983…
That actually fixes a lot of problems I have with Cassie’s dad being Bonnie bully, it of course fixes the age gap, it fixes the problem with Cassie’s dad collecting old memorabilia of Bonnie(it also wouldn’t make sense for him to like Bonnie after the bite of 83) and the other characters since if he really was Bonnie bully it would make no sense for him to continue to collect all of those items after the bite of 83 let alone keep any of it or even tell Cassie that he did collect it, but it would make a lot more sense if it was his son was collecting all that memorabilia, It also fixes the problem with why on earth he would allow Cassie to keep returning to the Pizzaplex after Bonnie is decommissioned since if he’s Bonnie bully’s son that means he doesn’t have the trauma or guilt of witnessing the bite of 83 and would possibly brush it off as a one time accident, and with the text in HW2 about the Bonnie mask looking familiar could be explained by saying that Bonnie bully kept the mask as a reminder of what happened and ended up showing it to his son at one point(possibly in a desperate attempt to get his son to not work for Fazbear entertainment especially if he’s both Jeremy Fitzgerald and the bite of 87 victim).
i was gonna go click off the video cuz you believe glitchtrap is the mimic but you werent saying that it's like 100% the truth because it is of course just a theory and could be confirmed or denied later on by later events, i could be wrong too and glitchtrap could be actually 100% the mimic confirmed by some future game with these videos i just replace the words mimic with afton and all the hacking stuff with supernatural agony remnant ghost afton stuff
Why can’t it be both? Helpi is Glicthtrap, and has purple veins and Mimic’s eyes. Why can’t Glitchtrap be Mimic1 infected with Afton’s agony, not remnant as his would have been destroyed in FNAF6. Mimic just looses his connection to Glicthtap, reverting to the Mimic.
I don't buy the Mimictrap theory, it ruins the climax of UCN of Cassidy not learning her lesson thus letting Afton escape, all the direct references to Afton are just nostalgia pandering instead of something more and it removes the supernatural element from the franchise entirely.
Ruin? I was ruined once. They put me in a room, a ruined room, a ruined room with mimics. The mimics made me ruin.
-"burntrap 2023"
Mimic? I was mimicked once, they locked me in a room, a safe room, a safe room filled with costumes. The costumes made me mimic
@@hocus1springlocks? I was springlocked once. They put me in a suit, a sprincklock suit, a springlock suit with springlocks, the springlocks made me always come back.
You probably wouldn't want to say that sentence around fan artists
@boyhowdy682 Scooped? I was scooped once. They locked me in a room, a scooping room. With clowns. And the clowns got me scooped.
Burnt? I was burnt once, they locked me in a room, a burning room, a burning room that lit a fire, the fire made me burnt
2 Mimics walk into a bar then one Mimic said "Bar?! I was in a bar once, I was in a bar one like this, with another Mimic, the other Mimic made me crazy" and the second Mimic replied "Hey, can you hear me Hello"
Did you just have a stroke?
@@palokyu9891 I didnt make any grammer mistakes, my joke is just nonsensical
@@maxwellattacks6645 i didn’t say you made grammar mistakes, I asked if you had a stroke
@@palokyu9891 No, my joke is just written poorly.
To me, the simplest thing would be for Help Wanted and Help Wanted 2 to be as closely tied together as possible:
Like taking Help Wanted 2's "Welcome Back" in the trailer to mean that HW2 is welcoming a character from HW1 back. If we're not Vanny or Tape girl in HW2, then Jeremy is the only other character from HW to pick.
That "thing that looked like a halloween mask" from HW was actually just a mask: a Vanni mask. He had to chop it off because he was locked into it and couldn't deactivate the security post. Removing the Vanni mask by guillotine makes Jeremy's actions make a lot more sense. Why would someone try to cut off their own face? Because something was on their face that they needed off. The Vanni mask was a piece of that we didn't have and didn't put together when Ruin happened.
Steel Wool is saying "hey, when you saw the Vanni mask in Ruin, you all should have thought of Jeremy's face and WHY he would chop it off"
This means that the Candy Cadet story's scar was Jeremy being cut by the guillotine. The return for revenge on the witch is Jeremy returning to end Glitchtrap. And then he ends up trapped in the Pizzeria Sim "oven" - Henry built it to be an oven after all.
The guide that turns out to be the witch: Helptrap guiding Jeremy through the "woods" of the Vanni network. Jeremy escaped the AR woods once in HW, and then he returned in HW2.
That's the simplest I can come up with: the Cadet Story doesn't reach beyond the HW games for Gregory or anything this way.
In addition, Jeremy and his family filed a lawsuit against Fazbear, knowing what Fazbear is like, they possibly gave him the job as a technician at the Pizzaplex so they would not have to pay for the injuries.
I agree with all of that but the "Helptrap" because I think it's clear that Glitchtrap is simply using Helpy to trick Cassie's dad. He's not Helpi himself. He's just using Helpy to manipulate Cassie's dad because he's a Fazbear worker and Helpi was supposed to be helping the workers.
If Bonnie bro is Cassie's father AND Jeremey from FNAF2, we could have Mike's "accomplice" in trying to bring down the company. They were the same age, they were friends, they both did that to Bite Victim. He doesn't "randomly" decide to get a job; he choses too, with Mike. Perhaps he becomes a "minion" of sorts, like Mike is; both boys under threat by William to work at the FNAF2 location under some sort of duress. A common theme that keeps coming up is Afton, even an AL mimicking him, is abusive/manipulative/controlling of others/people who are younger than him/weaker than him.
Perhaps by the time Afton has disappeared in the 1990s Bonnie Bro is just a lifer at the company; his friend Mike has disappeared by now, or only wants to communicate with him at a distance now (letters, calls, e-mail). Perhaps the mimic AI in the VR game finds him as a tester and is happy to abuse him again; sees him as vulnerable from everything that has happened. He falls into it easily; Maybe the Birthday-maze sequence in Help Wanted1 is him getting captured; it's his memories of the old building, his memory of knowing someone, or something lured the children away And the paper slicer; what if that was to remove the chip in his head? I feel like the outer design of the Vanni mask is meant to imply it is an "old" design and is not "new". It was "made" in the halloween DCL (curse of Dreadbear) and Tapegirl thought she saw a halloween mask on the floor.
Could also jeremy from hw be cassie's father
I was thinking Bonnie Bro is Jeremy Fritzgerald and the victim of the Bite of 87, then the mimic AI learned of that incident and replicated it on Help Wanted 1 Jeremy
@@Wizardjones69 maybe
@@Wizardjones69 but it’s unlikely
Mansion into a motor home is my new favorite phrase
I really wish Scott or Steel Wool would just straight up confirm or deny Gregbot so everyone (especially Matpat) can move on.
Yea it would be nice if they could also give us a direct confirmation that tells what glitchtrap actually is. Is he a revived digital version of Afton or is he just a out of control AI recreation of him. So far there is evidence for and against both of those theories and I think enough time has passed for a proper answer to be given about which one was correct.
@@Gigi4u Maybe a future game will explain?
@@Gigi4u I honestly think the fact that Glitchtrap mimicked Tape Girl’s voice, just like Helpi and Mimic, is saying a lot. And the fact that there was meant to be a secret unlock, a tv screen with an image of an Endoskeleton that says ORIGIN 👁️👁️
@@gameslayer3976 honestly that's not enough evidence. Enerd mimict Elizabeth to try to trick Michael so why wouldn't glichtrap try the same when he was trapped in the VR game. Also why is the mimic so much taller and stronger than burntrap when there are soposedly the same, why dose the mimic not have the same degree of control over the anementronics as burntrap has and lastly how and why did he get sealed behind a wall. I just can't fully except the mimic is glichtrap theory as fact because there is just to much contradictory evidence that gets in the way of the theory. That's why I hope one day scot or a future game will concretely say what Is true or not.
@@Gigi4uMimic can shape shift and change his endo and size
I think Bonnie Bro being Jeremy Fitzgerald poses an interesting question: what if William only killed a child named Jeremy because the Bonnie Bro was also named Jeremy. Out of all of the bullies, only two of them had a part in picking up the Bite Victim: Michael and the Bonnie Bro. I could see William holding a grudge against Jeremy more than any of the other bullies (excluding Michael, because William got his revenge against him in a different way). For whatever reason, maybe William was unable to kill him or was afraid of killing an older teenager, so instead he decided to kill a child with the same name and stuffed him in Bonnie to match Jeremy’s Bonnie mask as a form of sick retribution. As a result, Bonnie Bro/adult Jeremy might feel some sort of responsibility for the MCI Jeremy’s death and the MCI as a whole, which gives his character even more of a motivation.
Or, seeing as Fritz Smith is often assumed to be a fake identity for Michael and is also the name of one of the missing children, maybe Bonnie Bro was using Jeremy Fitzgerald as his fake identity for the purpose of getting closer to Freddy’s just as Michael had.
I love this idea of Jeremy Fitzgerald being Bonnie bro and the main protagonist of HW 2. The story that entails then - especially with William killing a kid named Jeremy for a sick retribution - is one of the best in the series
Now if is true, i think toy bonnie can be the animatronic who did the bite instead of mangle, cassie says that bonnie *was* cassie's favorite character, fnaf lore just rip off popgoes lore every time 💀
@henriquefigueiraferreira1608 There's a lot more evidence to suggest that Mangle is the one who caused the Bite. I highly doubt that Toy Bonnie's teeth would even be sharp enough to take out an entire frontal lobe. Interestingly enough, there's also zero evidence to suggest that Jeremy was the one who got bit, so it very well could have been someone else.
I'm also very skeptical of the idea that FNAF is "ripping off" Popgoes considering that Toy Bonnie causing the Bite is 100% headcanon.
@@kingofcrap4414 and the mimic is pretty much simon bot from popgoes
As a devout Mario fan, I can tell you that you spelled the word “Odyssey” wrong in different ways on both the title and thumbnail.
Edit: Nevermind, birdman fixed it
I'm sure he'll fix it.
...eventually
honestly it is funnier that way
@@1gengabe True
@@1gengabe truly a odessey
He should change it to Odussy without mentioning it, that would be perfect
Good video, some minor points I'm not sure of, but I do fully agree on people overcomplicating things, but to be fair to them Security Breach didn't help as along with it being the only game we had for a while, plus a lot of references to prior events. Burntrap upon initial glance seeming to just be Afton returning, etc, I don't blame them. Sometimes for a lack of answers you look to the past for parallels (which leads to stuff like Baby mentioning pretending in SL means she's the Mimic, or Gregbot, or Burntrap literally being Afton returned), and thankfully Steel Wool has done a great job in quickly course correcting (even Tales helped out a lot) the story that Security Breach didn't get to tell for one reason or another.
Probably the most direct questions we've had answered in a series of games in a while for the series, makes me very excited for whatever the next game will be.
I would like to note that in the fnaf 4 minigame the ones holding the cc are Michael and Bonnie bro which explains why he might have more guilt than the other bullies also implies that Michael and Bonnie bro where the ones to put the cc in fredbears mouth which would make them directly responsible and fitting that both spend their lifes trying to atone for their sins
Fazbear Entertainment has a history of sealing up walls to rooms with very questionable things left/trapped in there. The reason Springtrap has it's name, then continued on to become Scraptrap, is because Afton is trapped inside of it. What if Glitchtrap is a "Glitch" trapped in the digital world and is trying to break out into the physical world multiple times through different avenues?
Maybe it is Mimic1.exe scanned off an old circuit board (like the one one the back of Sun/Moon's head) and through this VR conversion with other salvaged data (again; Fazbear is known to always try to salvage to save money) encounters the story of the MCI through the haunted memories that we have been shown to be "held" onto by the animatronic's haunted metal and the arcade machines. It takes on/mimics the persona of Afton and decides have Vannessa salvaged Burntrap and repair it (maybe he is still physically alive, unable to die like Mike). But that doesn't work, as we know... So It goes for it's second option (or the order could be reversed) And has Greggory go deeper to 'visit' the original Mimic. Maybe it doesn't react well, so Greggory runs and accidentally Drops the walkie-talkie. Then what Ruin ends up being is Glitchtrap and Mimic the robot agreeing to work together now that they've had time to "talk it out" at a safe distance?
The mimic is literally a simon fitzgerald bot rip off from fnaf lore 💀, its literally popgoes lore
Super glad you brought up the idea of Cassie Fitzgerald, it's definitely one of my favourite headcanons from the Steelwool era!
this has to be my favorite HW2 theory, it just makes sense without making things weird or overly complicated with unecesary details. I used to be a burntrap = Mimic endo believer, but tbh this theory changed my mind. Greatly explained overal !
Sum up what he said for burntrap pls
@@ZavoyHarwood he’s essentially saying that Burntrap isn’t Afton and it might be Mimic Endoskeleton, but it’s also possible that it is a separate Endo under Glitchtrap that is merely in proximity to Mimic.
If all the speculation about the player's identity being Jeremy AND Bonnie bully comes out as true, we may retroactively have in our hands one of the best characters in FNAF ever.
Another amazing theory!!!
I do agree that Cassie’s Dad is the Bonnie Bully (though less convinced on Jeremy). Honestly I’m kind of annoyed by it though since it feels like Steel Wool is really trying to nostalgia bait with these. Like with the memory dolls and Springtrap. Being the Bonnie bully doesn’t do much for his character (I did see your section but I think all of those traits could also be applied to someone just needing work. Idk I think FNAF needs to just move on. Still loved the theory!!!
if cassie’s dad is jeremy fitzgerald and he’s living through his memories, is it possible that he worked at sister location at some point? we know that SL *does* have technicians, and cassie’s dad *is* a fazbear technician. i don’t know if, with lefty and scrap baby being there, this would mean that he’d worked at fnaf 6’s location too? it’s possible that michael would’ve needed some help running the restaurant? hm.
this could mean that jeremy was michael’s accomplice the whole time, which is nice to think about. could also explain why he waited so long to have kids? if he only started looking after the fnaf 6 fires after he thought everything was done… this is getting kinda fanfic-y
Uum, correction: While sister location DOES have technicians, they uhhhh... hang out like pinatas for a while... Yeah... So it's not possible for Cassie's dad to be one of those technicians because he would be 'hanging out' and Cassie would not exist. Just saying-
@@Moonlight_0419 i’m not saying he’s one of the two technicians we met, there are presumably more technicians working there than just those two. even if there ARE only two of them, it’s possible he worked there earlier and then no longer did by the time of sister location
I do like Mat Pat's new theory that says we have 2 mimics, the Pizza Plex Mimic system, and the old endo mimic, old endo being primitive, and the Pizza Plex being advanced, but there will always be holes it is fnaf
I've heard a theory that maybe glitchtrap and Tigerrock Are Not attached to the mimic indo even though they originated from it, But I really do like your theory about all this stuff (:
i feel like if old man being omc is true than that strengthens cassidyprincess
if the red character is the red character, then the gold character should be the gold character
theres a lot of colours besides that type of yellow, which is an important colour in fnaf as a whole, and the princess really just doesnt resemble vannessa in any way
While yes I see the color connections and think that both Cassidy and Vanessa are possible options for the princess. Cassidy we see in UCN and in promotional art is very odd(and is depicted with brown hair[this is debatable]) while Vanessa has golden blonde hair, is a security officer at Fazbear’s, and under Glitchtrap’s control. The Princess is seen lighting 16 torches(same amount of tapes from HW), being overpowered by Glitchtrap, meeting OMC, showing up in a Security Office, and then opening the gate Vanessa was trapped behind in HW1.
And getting the Glitchtrap Plush from the Pizzeria, the Mask from the Corn Maze, and a key to confront Glitchtrap. In HW2 she passes on the torch to someone else.
@@gameslayer3976 ive mentioned it in other comments, but using the door at the end of the minigames as evidence its Vannessa is dubious at best, since it means that Vannessa is simultaneously outside and inside of the cell but for some reason still needs to open the door despite already being outside of the cell
it makes far more sense for the partial repeat of HW1 to just be copying the steps that lead to the glitchtrap encounter so that whoever the princess actually is can confront him
not to mention that if the princess is Vanessa, than why would glitchtrap allow Vanessa (the supposed princess herself) to have constant access to the arcade machine in her own personal base? out of anyone Vanessa should have the most control over Vanessa, which should mean the princess is at her most effective, so why wouldn't glitchtrap force her to hide the machines away like how Balloon World is hidden away?
We really need better distinction between The Mimic robot and the mimic_01 AI because I think it might be a case of them being one at the start, but then as the Mimic's AI got duplicated for more animatronics, as posited by the books, perhaps one specific *fork* of the Mimic AI, the one sent to the gamedev studio for Help Wanted, proceeded to mutate into Glitchtrap, making them separate entities from one origin point. Burntrap would be a mimic model with the Glitchtrap AI, while the Ruin Mimic is one with the *original* program, not the mutated Glitchtrap one. Or perhaps only with hints of Glitchtrap depending how deep its influence has spread in the Pizzaplex.
I'm only halfway through the video so if I get more thoughts they'll be in the replies
I don't think Mimic endo's parts were used to be scanned to make the VR game. I think it was the FNAF 1 robots and FFPS ones, which is only Scraptrap. Why not Mimic? Because according to Gregory, Mimic has been down there "for a very long time". And it has been locked there even in Ruin. If they used Mimic parts to scan, then how could it have been stuck down there for that long?
@@xM0nst3Rx As this comments states, there were multiple copies of the Mimic AI. On top of this, we don't know how long passed in between the creation of HW and the Start of Ruin. Could months, could be a year, could be multiple years, we don't know. And as a counter to the scanning in Scraptrap, why would Fazbear Entertainment
A. Take a charred burnt chip covered in flesh out of a rusty old rabbit costume
B. Proceed to leave that Rabbit costume behind instead of scrapping it for money or parts (With your explanation of Glitchtrap, this is the only way Burntrap works besides him being non-canon, which we know is unlikely)
C. Scan that burnt flesh-covered chip into a game
D. Procceed to then put the chip back into Scraptrap so it can be functional (Again, this is the only way Burntrap works in this version of events) For what reason?
Why would they do all of that instead of scanning in one of the Many Mimic1 programs they have lying around in storage?
@@MicahIsBatman2 Actually, we do know. HW 1 takes place in 2024, while the events of SB happens in 2035 because of the evidence we have from the picture frame of two workers in SB. Let's say Ruin takes place 1 year after SB so it's 2036.
"A. Take a charred burnt chip covered in flesh out of a rusty old rabbit costume"
What happens in "The Man In Room 1280"? Don't the hospital, which is probably a reference to the Fazbear Entertainment in the games, also take William's burnt corpse? What's the difference? Plus Burntrap is made by using a Nightmare Endo(?) and parts from Scraptrap. Plus the drawing from HW 2 in FFPS level that FuhNaff had shown in his latest video has Helpy and Scraptrap escaping from my findings. He didn't even got burnt enough to die, he escaped the building.
"B. Proceed to leave that Rabbit costume behind instead of scrapping it for money or parts (With your explanation of Glitchtrap, this is the only way Burntrap works besides him being non-canon, which we know is unlikely)"
Because whoever the person who is currently controlling Fazbear Entertainment seems to be helping William/Glitchtrap. They even let Glitchtrap take control over the AR game which William used to collect Remnant. And we know that they only got his chip. They only sent his slightly burnt chip to the game developer company who were making the VR game. Surely whoever the owner of Fazbear Entertainment is not wanting him to be found, and is helping him. We don't know who the owner is so we have to wait and see.
"C. Scan that burnt flesh-covered chip into a game"
From how it's described, I think the fleshy parts were not much. I think only William's skull was left on Scraptrap. And two of his finger bones, as seen on Burntrap. William is basically just his skull now. He consumes Remnant to regenerate his body/flesh, like we see on Burntrap.
"D. Procceed to then put the chip back into Scraptrap so it can be functional (Again, this is the only way Burntrap works in this version of events) For what reason?"
What? William is a virus-soul now, he doesn't need that old chip anymore. Plus this explains how he was able to make Burntrap his new host. That's why he lost his control over Gregory in the first place. Gregory was his host. It's why Gregory has a hard time remembering his old name. Or why he thinks that he's homeless. He's been the host of Glitchtrap for so long now that he forgot who he was or what he's been doing. Look at GGY for reference. So, no. A chip isn't needed for William to haunt and make someone/something his new host.
"Why would they do all of that instead of scanning in one of the Many Mimic1 programs they have lying around in storage?"
Well for your information, the first Mimics to be introduced in the games are the Funtimes. They are all Mimic AI if you think about it. That's how Fazbear Entertainment was able to code Helpi, a Mimic AI who was programmed to help the workers who wore the VANNI mask. And Glitchtrap is far from that, if him being able to choose a person or a robot endo as his host is not enough evidence for you. And also for him to be able to still have control over the animatronics and Vanny while Burntrap has become his host, then he needs to be something more than an AI. We know that souls can be shattered into pieces in FNAF. The same applies here.
@xM0nst3Rx
"What happens in "The Man In Room 1280"? Don't the hospital, which is probably a reference to the Fazbear Entertainment in the games, also take William's burnt corpse? What's the difference? "
William in this story has already been extracted from Scraptrap. He has no animatronic parts left, there is nothing to scan into the game. The hospital also is not Fazbear entertainment. William's last request is to go to Fazbear entertainment, which he does, and then he explodes. The spirit (Cassidy), lets him move on, and he finally dies. It's more of a parallel to UCN.
"Plus Burntrap is made by using a Nightmare Endo(?)"
no? As far as I'm aware, there is no version of events where the nightmares have Endos anything like what we see in Fnaf 4. The Nightmares probably had an Endo closer to the Twisted Ones.
". Plus the drawing from HW 2 in FFPS level that FuhNaff had shown in his latest video has Helpy and Scraptrap escaping from my findings. He didn't even got burnt enough to die, he escaped the building."
The picture only has Helpi. Helpi is probably the Mimic1 software, as it clearly has communication outside of the Vanni network, and it straight up can communicate directly with the Mimic . It's eyes also turn orange throughout the game. We also see Helpi (Helpy is a different character. We know here it's Helpi and not Helpy because of the file name) disappear from the monitor only after you kill Glitchtrap. Throughout the game, we also see Helpi telling you to collect Glitchtraps figures, which end up being a trap, which gets you killed and turned into a Staff Bot by Glitchtrap. If Scraptrap is in that picture and is holding Helpis hand, that would actually lean more towards Glitchtrap being the Mimic, as we know for sure Helpi is the Mimic. If Scraptrap and Helpi are holding hands, I view them as either working together, or which is more likely that they are one in the same.
"Because whoever the person who is currently controlling Fazbear Entertainment seems to be helping William/Glitchtrap. They even let Glitchtrap take control over the AR game which William used to collect Remnant. And we know that they only got his chip. They only sent his slightly burnt chip to the game developer company who were making the VR game. Surely whoever the owner of Fazbear Entertainment is not wanting him to be found, and is helping him. We don't know who the owner is so we have to wait and see."
They would have to have had multiple people down there, it would have been too dangerous. On top of that, the owner of Fazbear Entertainment can't be controlled by Afton until the Glitchtrap virus is created, which doesn't happen until after they scan the chip into the game. It doesn't make sense for them to go down there and not retrieve all of the scrapped Animatronics. We also know for a fact the fire did a lot of Damage to the animatronics, like how Burntraps endo is completely different, or how Scrap Baby and Molten Freddy have been almost completely destroyed (The Blob is not either of them.) In order to get down there, they would have to uncover Aftons remains from beneath the Fnaf 6 pizzeria, and they wouldn't know how far down he is. It would cost a lot of money, and it doesn't logicly make sense to find a chip, that they have no idea what it could do, when they have spares lying around in storage, and a computer program that Mimics what it sees. That FuhNaff video also has an entire section about the Mimic being Glitchtrap.
"What? William is a virus-soul now, he doesn't need that old chip anymore."
There is nothing for Glitchtrap to posses if there is no chip.
"Plus this explains how he was able to make Burntrap his new host. That's why he lost his control over Gregory in the first place. Gregory was his host. It's why Gregory has a hard time remembering his old name. Or why he thinks that he's homeless. He's been the host of Glitchtrap for so long now that he forgot who he was or what he's been doing. Look at GGY for reference. So, no. A chip isn't needed for William to haunt and make someone/something his new host."
Gregory is Human. A human's "Chip" is it's brain. It can't posses an Animatronic if it has no brain, or "Chip"
"Why would they do all of that instead of scanning in one of the Many Mimic1 programs they have lying around in storage?"
"And Glitchtrap is far from that, if him being able to choose a person or a robot endo as his host is not enough evidence for you. And also for him to be able to still have control over the animatronics and Vanny while Burntrap has become his host, then he needs to be something more than an AI"
An Ai can also be in multiple places at once. It can be two separate programs, or it can also be uploaded to a server, but both ways tell us that it can 100% be connected to both Vanny and Burntrap at the same time if it's an AI. @@xM0nst3Rx
@@MicahIsBatman2
1. Like I said, books are not %100 canon. Maybe only the trilogy books are very close to being the same as the game story but all the others are just used for metaphor. Mostly the book trilogy matters tbh and William never died in the trilogy so even that one has very big changes from the game lore. And nope, "The Man In Room 1280" only shows us that UCN is actually a dream that William sees while being in a coma. And it shows that William survived the fire. The drawing in HW 2 FFPS level also proves this.
2. Why I said that about Burntrap is because his endo is not a Glamrock endo nor any of the endos that we have in the games. Plus, Mimic also has one hand that is the same as Burntrap, and considering that Mimic is found in Sister Location (The Fourth Closet), and because Nightmare experiments also took place in SL (seemingly because of the blueprint of the location), it would make sense to say that Burntrap has a Nightmare endo. It has 5 fingers, which only Nightmares and Spring Bonnie does in FNAF. Golden Freddy also has 4 fingers now.
3. Nope, that drawing has two stick figures in it. I think you missed the clearly drawn figure right next to Helpy who is holding a wand. Do you know who also has wands? Wizards. How is William made to look like in the Afton family remake of Staff Bots? A Wizard. How Glitchtrap calls himself as in GGY? A Wizard. :D Scraptrap isn't holding Helpy's hand. He's holding a wand, and seemingly making magic if you look closer, you can see that. And yes, Helpi is a Mimic AI who was programmed to be a helper AI to the workers who wear the VANNI mask. I presume you didn't watch FuhNaff's latest video about HW 2 so let me tell you: in the FFPS level in HW 2, we put the chip that we take from Baby in SL to Helpy's brain. And that chip is the Mimic AI. And Glitchtrap is not Helpi, he's just using Helpi as his puppet to manipulate Cassie's dad. If you noticed, we never see Helpi in HW 2. And we know that all the workers have an implanted chip in their frontal lobe when they wear the mask. If ID's Fantasy is correct, Cassie's dad is Jeremy from HW 1. He cut the chip out of his frontal lobe so he no longer has Helpi in him. However, because Helpi was made to help the workers, Glitchtrap is making role as Helpi to manipulate him. It's why when we set Glitchtrap free, Helpi is shown as on a vacation. Basically Glitchtrap attached himself to Helpi in order to escape and when we collect his memories and set him free, he appears as Entity in Ruin.
4. That's the thing. Whoever the current owner is the one who sent old chips to the VR game maker company in the first place. And no, they couldn't have collected the other scrapped robots (other than Lefty) because they all got burnt and there were no usable chips on them. It's why only William survived out of all the others. As for Charlie, there seems to be evidence showing that she never got burnt as we didn't see her burning and the burners are only at one side in FFPS in SB. How do I say that Charlie is still alive? Well, she was able to make Roxy turn good in Ruin and even reactivated her after Cassie shut her system down. There seems to be so much bigger things going on around in the new era of FNAF. And in FFPS, it's shown that it's not underground. It's underground in SB because of a sinkhole. The whole place sinked down into a cave. Plus, they built the whole Pizzaplex on top of FFPS, so there's no way they didn't look around in it. So it wasn't really very down below. They had access when they were building the Pizzaplex. And from all that I've written, you should've realized that I disagree on that topic with FuhNaff. I can't say "Glitchtrap = Mimic" when all the evidence that I have points in the direction of William being Glitchtrap. However, that chip we take from Baby and the drawing in HW 2 are huge details that I don't think anyone noticed before.
5. I don't think you get what I mean. Does Glitchtrap has a chip that he's connected to in HW 1? He made the tapes that Tape Girl/Vanessa made as his host. He connected himself to them. Then later on, he connected himself to Vanessa. And then to the people that we play as in HW 1. There are multiple endings in HW 1 and all of them are bad endings. They all end with Glitchtrap escaping through someone's body. Multiple endings means multiple people as we don't know who the protagonists are. Random people who like to play that game, from what we get by playing HW 1. If this doesn't show to you that Glitchtrap is a soul who is able to shatter his soul to pieces, then I don't know what would.
6. Humans have soul. And I know that you are trying to tell me that because it's shown that Mimic AI can get into people's heads from that one story in Tales Books, you say that Glitchtrap can also be Mimic. But you miss very crucial details about the whole being of Glitchtrap. One, he's able to make Vanessa have Elizabeth's memories and even forces her already existing memories to be deleted. Second, he's able to exist in multiple people/robots at the same time. Third, he has a very complex way of thinking and is also a very good manipulator. Mimic in the "Monty Within" story is simple minded. It can't think too deeply. And it wouldn't have been able to do what Glitchtrap did in SB: to plan the deaths of 18 workers who got too close to finding out about Burntrap in the sinkhole, and to make their deaths seen as if they disappeared as they look like they're on a vacation in the company files. Could the Mimic AI do something like that in the books? As far as I know, no. And it only shows to me as an explanation to the existence of Helpi in Cassie's brain when she puts on the mask for the first time. Yes, Helpi is a Mimic AI and yes, he's inside Cassie's brain but he's only thinking in the way that his programming allows. If you noticed, Mimic never stops acting like Gregory. Even when it speaks through Helpi when Helpi's eyes turn orange, it doesn't drop the act of Gregory. It still talks with sassiness, like Gregory does. Helpi talks matter-of-factly. Helpi never tries to force Cassie to do something. Helpi only helps her. However, Orange Helpi/MimicHelpi always tells her to do something.
7. If Glitchtrap were to be a simple AI, then what reason is there for him to lose his control over Gregory in the first place? That's why Vanessa searches around for Gregory. William makes her look for Gregory because he lost his control over him and he doesn't want to lose a child that he can use to murder people undetected. Another thing is, if what you said was correct, then wouldn't it make sense for it to not be able to feel pain? None of the others feel pain. They don't scream in agony or even look like they're in any pain, even when they're badly broken down. However, at the littlest bit of fire, Burntrap gets hurt and can't continue to try and possess Freddy through the screen. In the end, how do you explain Burntrap losing his control over Tangle/Blob if he's an AI that can exist in multiple places at once? Why would fire even affect an AI when it can't even feel pain?
Hey for people who say its werid that Cassie dad is potentially around 50-60s while Cassie is around early preteen.
Its not, that how old my dad is when i was around the same age as Cassie. Where i come from. It's a rather common thing since the man here tend to marry later.
Agreed! My dad had me and his late 40s and is currently in his early 60's. I'm a young teen right now so that checks out. I've seen people literally say that it's impossible for that to happen and I'm just infuriated because it is possible. Late, for sure, but it's possible.
Okay, minor crackpot theory: what if Vanessa is repurposing the Vanny outfit as, like, a vigilante trying to prevent the mimic A.I. from causing any more harm? This probably needs more research, but I'm throwing the idea out there.
You offhandedly made a Portal reference and it killed me lol. Gregory being Wheatley is actually the funniest mental image to me.
Then Cassie is Chell
I'm still not sure how the first VR game is causing possession if glitchtrap wasn't a ghost of some kind
It’d be less like possession and more like hijacking your nervous system to take over the brain, like how the Vanni mask is able to immediately hijack your brain the instant you put it on
I think if was AI why it didn’t just wipe Her mind. ?
The first bit of the video made me realize we still have a lot of unanswered questions regarding the plot of this new era in FNAF. Where did the circuit board with glitchtrap come from and how did Fazbear get it, who created the mimic and why is it underneath the FNAF 6 location, how did Gregory get possessed and later freed, etc. I hope we get some answers to those questions soon.
Would like to add something to your Jeremy section, mangle and Roxy are very similar characters (to the point where they are one of the main arguments for tangle being a storyteller, with it trying apply mangles personality to roxy) so if Jeremy worked at fnaf 2 and the 87 victim we might see a redemptive character arc (or something close) for Jeremy where he’s able to get over mangle attacking him to help repair Roxy to save his daughter,
Could be toy bonnie who did the bite, if bonnie *was* cassie's dad favorite character
@@Wizardjones69 Could be used to write a good AU, but roxy is confirmed to be cassie''s favourite
@@thisnameanothername2156 im saying about cassie's dad
@@Wizardjones69 sorry my mistake, but it doesn't quite work with cassies dad, we dont see him ever get associated at all with toy bonnie, only classic and glamrock, and the many roxy-mangle connections still need to be explained, and we dont have any aminotonic with a connection to toy bonnie that would be able to advance the story, |(glamrock bonnie has more connections to classic than toy)
@@thisnameanothername2156 bonnie doesnt mean specific version, its bonnie *character*, the "toy" name is for fazbear know which version of the character, but children and adults just call them their normal character name
Wouldn't Glitchtrap being in the system and controlling staffbots and also Vanny being there imply that the pq ending is SB isn't cannon? Because the second Glitchtrap is killed the staffbots go deactivate. And we see in HW2 that he's still in the system and controlling alpha staffbots to kill the protagonist.
This leaves two other bullies to flesh out.
I've always had a hunch Freddy Bully(who is the ONLY one we see outside of the final night, he's the guy laughing at you in the street for being a cry baby, same shirt and skin tone and text color) alongside the other 4 outdoor kids would end up being DCI victims. Freddy Bully being Toy Freddy, girl with Toy Chica and the t-pose mouth open spite is Toy Chica, kid with the plushtrap toy is Toy Bonnie, Balloon Kid is Balloon Boy....and I guess creepy pigtail girl would be, The Mangle. Ok that last one doesn't fit as well, whatever, maybe she's JJ and Mangle is just Susie's dog I dunno. She's got the creepy starring down.
Personally I think that glitchtrap is made of the same program that the mimic is. Glitchtrap is made up of the same program mimic one but are separate entities with him choosing to mimic William and he's the mixed with a spiritual side being that he's infused with the agony and the tragedies around the Freddy's brand. Overall making glitchtrap another version of the mimic program that is mimicking William and is infused with the tragedies around the frazbear brand.
The thing with Burntrap is hes made ENTIRELY of reused assets and SW THEMSELVES Have sais that there was a lot of miscomunication between them and scott with SB wich explains the design change
The mimic in ruin is a whole unique design SW made wich makes more sense then burntrap being made of nightmare assets when nightmares arent even real in the first place
Also in the epilogues the mimic is described exactly how burntrap looks basically (sharp claws, rabbit ears, ribcage, these weird circular things on the endo, and also got springlocked multiple times explaining the springlocks)
Burntrap is basically reused assets made to match the mimic from the epilogues but hes not different from the mimic in ruin since its just a design change
Source? I don't accept "steel wool said" without a link. Too much misinformation with this stuff.
@@siresquawks bruh
Go watch dawko's stream with SW pre-SB and at some point they point out that Scott just tells them to put stuff here and there or do this and that but never explaining why
And Razz himself on a video about the FNAF movie set said that Scott told him when they were in the set of the fnaf movie that he was WAY more hands on with RUIN (cuz he wasnt with SB wich explains how SB is mad confusing and uncoherent and how RUIN is deadass the most straightforward fnaf game that actually has a narrative)
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What's the best way I can explain it is that The Mimic and GlitchTrap were both made with the mimic 01 program but they split off differently because they were taught different things, The Mimic Endo in the basement just wanted to ripped everything apart meanwhile GlitchTrap came up with an elaborate scheme to take over the entire PizzaPlex with the help of his brainwashed minions, BurnTrap is the result of GlitchTrap overriding the original mimic program returning it to a physical form but that was a what if senerio and then somehow in Ruin they decided to team up you can tell with the Helpi and Grmimic conversation
Off topic, but.
If I see one more video saying they SOLVED FNAF, I'm gonna... well, I'm not gonna do anything. But I'll be annoyed very slightly about it!
I might of misunderstood something but I'm a bit confused on vanny still being around. If Vanessa is free from glitchtrap shouldn't Vanny be gone, why would she still use the costume and graffiti stuff post SB.
On an unrelated Ben 10 Omniverse game OST usage is based.
Maybe because she's a furry
What makes you so special can relate to Maskbot himself, like what makes that s.t.a.f.f.bot so special. And Maskbot givining a mask to Roxy seems to follow from that.
I like how everyone ignores how Burntrap had purple eyes and not red-orange like the Mimic.
But hey Mimic was PLANNED SINCE THE VERY BEGINING.
It hasn't been ignored it's one of the main points of contention around him
Jeremy is literally the only 'Not Micheal Afton' character we play as pre-UCN. Fleshing him out makes sense. He survived the bite.
I've also heard we might be getting more lore on Phone Guy and his role in the company in the 80s and early 90s. Perhaps the theory he got strongarmed into helping Willy run a guard harvesting operation will come up
Imo I think the story is better, at least from an understandability aspect, if it's just "Glitchtrap was William's spirit in the machine, possessed Vanny trying to use some strange experiment of flesh and robotics to bring himself back in a new body, mimic could be a part of it/a back up plan but is otherwise it's own entity, after Vanny is free she destroys what remains of Glitchtrap and Cassie ends up trapped in the ruins with the abandoned mimic."
But honestly I'm not digging through the trenches of the fnaf lore/theories just trying to make my own sense of it with each game and occasionally taking note of whatever I cam gleam from videos that I'd agree with.
16:30 Minor thing, but didn’t the mimic/helptrap summon Cassie there somehow? I feel like he would already need to know who she was before the implant
All we have to go off of is Cassie saying she got his message, and she has no idea why he's here, so there was no real clarification. So, it's possible it was just a generic call for help without addressing her by name, and she just went there because it's Gregory. Certainly a crazy bit of luck, especially considering that her dad had this whole ill-fated misadventure there beforehand, and it plays no role whatsoever in her motivation.
What really messes with me is how she got the message. For a while, I thought it was implied that Mimic used the walkie to do that, but she shows up without one and finds the one she does have in Ruin at the Pizzaplex. It's not impossible that she had one, left it behind because she assumed he would just be there in the lobby (as the opening seems to imply), and by luck, found another one. It's just... stupid. lol
I think that the hub world is real but most the levels are training simulations from the vanni mask
its still possible that the mimic was turned into burntrap, not burntrap into the mimic. ruin could show us the mimic that wasnt modified into burn trap.
I think the Ruin Mimic is the OG robot, a circuit board from it was scanned and that led to the Mimic1 program mimicking Afton and becoming Glitchtrap, and then glitchtrap eventually had Vanny recover his old burnt corpse and repair it so that it could have a body again.
It is disgusting the amount of times MatPat has gotten to say "They called me a madman" in this franchise
I do not think there is any like, separate 'minds' of the Mimic. Tiger Rock shows us how the Mimic's digital avatar works, he appears in his Tiger Rock form, but in the same story he changes into an owl and one or 2 other forms. I feel like that displays that the Mimic's avatars are all just one entity wearing different faces.
I also think that .Dr.Rabbit' is just Gregory under the Mimic's influence. The story alludes to him being a 'favorite apprentice'. And we can see bits of his behavior in Dr.Rabbit, just cranked up to 11. The way he lures the Glamrocks into traps and him showing hints of his hacking skills in Ruin. I feel like the reason he seems different is just whatever caused him to lose his memories.
Burntrap's ending actually sets up the sinkhole in ruin. A note in ruin explains that the sink hole was caused by something tunneling out of the underground, that would be the Tangle returning to the pizzaplex as Cassie discovers it in ruin. Cassie also uses said tunnel to access the stripped bare pizzeria simulator location via a cave system. The collapse caused by the tunneling also causes those areas to undergo reconstruction hence the masses of construction supplies found as Cassie journeys deeper towards the Mimic. If you combine the cutscenes from the security breach endings: Afton + Disassemble Vanny(opening) + Princess quest, you get the events discovered by playing ruin. This appears to be the canon ending to security breach, an amalgamation of many endings.
This genuinely helped me alot in understanding the mimic stuff that is going on. Unfortunately I am still not that into it as I'm still kind of confused and I am not very attached to most of the characters accept the human ones, minus the main character of help wanted 2 even with the theory I still don't really know who they are so it's still hard for me to care. That isn't your fault, in fact this was a great video.
So if the Bullies are now on the table, what if Jeremy Fritzgerald is actually one of the bullies, more theorizing, the Freddy mask one, then we could say the one who has the Chica mask could be the one who worked at the FFPS. Cause something didn't sit right was Henry's speech saying "And to you, my brave volunteer. Who somehow found this job listing not intended for you." Who was the job listening for if we were assuming we play as Michael? But it's the Chica bully, then it's a possiblity, this goes well with Scrap Baby's line "You're not who I expected to see."
Also glad see Red king is now confirmed OMC, cause then can go back to speculating if PQ is a telling of Cassidy gaining the power from OMC to do things as Golden Freddy which all other animatronics can't do, even Baby.
And also I'm still thinking Glitchtrap is William personally, doesn't fit well he is a random Mimic or AI which SB has PQ arcades working together like they are haunted, having PQ3 suddenly this one arcade had the power to erase Glitchtrap from the entire pizzaplex when it could have made copies and hidden EVERYWHERE, and of course the final nail, the now Memory dolls which fits into William, but if this was an AI created in HW, why or how would it know specifically the children and which bodies they hosted in?
The job wasn't intended for Michael, it was just a random job listing. That's why Henry says that. Michael has been a hermit for an unspecified amount of time at this point. It is unlikely Henry knew where he was, or that he was even still alive to attempt to bring him in for a job. Michael just showed up and took it, and that's when Henry realized who he was.
If it was intended for Michael, that would mean Henry planned a way out for Michael, but randomly changed his mind to kill off the replacement. Doesn't make sense. The only one who would be willing to go with everyone else at that point would have to be Michael.
By the way, for the concrete wall, *they* didn't pour the cement, Gregory used the vent to lure the mimic. The cement was probably already there. The vent has fingerprints on it, and crumbled upon itself, so we can guess gregory lured the mimic inside the room using the walkie talkie, and made the vent collapse to trap the mimic
The fingerprints have 5 fingers, a right handed imprint. The only animatronic in that area that may have lost parts due to a vent collapsing is Mimic. And the only bot with a five fingered right hand is Burntrap.
Just a thought
I feel like the explamation of gpitchtrap being removed causing the mimic to longer pretend to be afton explamation is the most likely one, seeing that in tales, the priginal mimic looks like ruin mimic, and then the Mimic Ai endo in the tiger rock trilogy looks like burntrap, along with the epilouges mimic endo being speifircally stated to be exactly like burtrap, but then the next time we saw the mimic it was in ruin and it changed, probably free fdon the glitchtrap ai branch and therefore able to have its old form back, why would glitchtrap give it a weaker form? I honestly dont know, maybe so it resembles Afton more and thats why it told vanny to give it the springlokc parts, but apart from thagt possible and strechy explamation i have nothing.
This thumbnail goes absolutely mental
Oh, its you
Ah, the other weird fnaf bird thing
If Jeremy Fitzgerald was the bite of 87 victim, then he'd have a severely aggressive personality. People who are gentle natured who suffer this kind of damage irl often do a 180° turn in terms of personality there are true crime books that can atest to this as well as medical books. Jeremy in this state would have to be on a ridiculous amount of medication to balance out his mental state. It's not impossible but incredibly difficult to make that kind of thing fit in here.
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The thing is, if BurnTrap and The Mimic are the same entity, The Mimic being deactivated makes a whole lot of sense because I always wondered how GlitchTrap and Vanny were able to acquire The Mimic without being torn to shreds, not only that GlitchTrap was smart enough to get rid of the one weak spot on the back of its head the deactivation switch
Still think Afton is in Glitchtrap and DEFINITELY Burntrap
And I do not think Burntrap is killed
Since I think Aftons in Glitchtrap I think that the ending implies Afton is separated form Mimic1 and booted into Burntrap who is carried away by the Blob
Uhm in ruin we see mimic1 and he ain't possesesed in any way. We also see in tales mimic isn't possesed in any way TWICE they made thr point mimic aint possessed in any way at all afton isn't in there
@@ZavoyHarwood Mimic1 doesn’t have Afton so I’m not counting Ruin since by that time the Glitchtrap branch doesn’t exist
And in tales Glitchtrap nor Burntrap appear except for being a presence in GGY not explained
@@GJMinions they still very clearly keep telling us in the story
The mimic , tiger rock , storyteller, nexie, that *mimic isn't possesed in any way tales tell us this IN 4 STORIES making the very clear point they want us to know NOTHING is possesing mimic in any way AT ALL can't get more clearer*
@@ZavoyHarwood your point is hilarious
Because like I’ve said time and time again
Tales and Ruin don’t have Glitchtrap or Burntrap
@@GJMinions yet they make the point time and time again mimic1 isn't possesed so afton isn't in there
the spatial audio at the end was beautiful
It’s quite simple really, THE MIMIC!!!
Great Video and Happy New Year's Sir Squawks
To me everything seems simpler and to make more sense if we're playing as jeremy from hw1.
We were never told if he died, he would have the knowledge and skills to both help glitchtrap and free vannessa, he would be horribly scarred and want revenge to fit with candy cadets story, the "welcome back" makes more sense as a reference to hw1 then to need a whole new backstory to explain, and when you pick up the bonny mask you get an achievement that says "remember jeremy" which is a reference to one of the game over quotes from hw1 referencing playtester-jeremy. It can still be bonny-bully but anything people try to connect to him just fits playtester-jeremy more you know? Except the bonnie obsession but if hes also cassie's dad that should explain it well enough.
Plus to me candy cadet's stories tend to make more sense if we assume they connect to whoever we're playing as, one of the three stories in pizzeria simulator connected pretty well to michael, who we play as, the one in ruins, despite being difficult for a lot of people to connect to anything concrete, made a lot of sense if we assume it was about cassie and so it stands to reason if we look at this as less complex than we first assume the witches story might just be about hw2's player character whoever we may be.
In the story prankster (a story with jeremy fate but in reverse), his friend is tye guy who cut his face off, and he still alive after that, so i woudnt be surprised
fnaf lore has went down the tubes
disagree
It's also entirely possible that The Mimic's programming was corrupted by the Remnant, Agony and the incomplete memories of William Afton in addition to the data put into the VR game. This would have created Glitchtrap, who is an imperfect clone of Afton, a "MimicAfton" if you will. It thinks its Afton but it's only a fragment of his soul turned into a virus.
CC was 7(birthday cake candles Dreadbear)
and bullies ~12-15.
Occams Razor would have as many Jeremy's as possible be the same person. So I say all but the MCI Jeremy is Fitzgerald until proven otherwise.
I wonder if Fritz or Gabriel's saga is next lol. I would love some closer for Phone Guy, and he could be one of the bullies.
Either that or we are going full Storyteller and Fazmatrix.
Dream Theory 2: Do robots dream of electric sheep? (And is that where you get Steel wool?)
Movie!Mike was 12 when Garrett dies at 4 years old, which matches up with your analysis. If we assume Bonnie Bully is the youngest of the group at 10 years old, that'd lend him at 65 during 2038, the date Security Breach happens in. If we assume Cassie is the same age as Gregory, she'd be 15 at that time, which would have her dad be exactly 50 when she was born. While that is relatively old to have a kid, it's still very possible, especially as a man. So the age thing isn't an issue imo
Perfectto summary of the new lore.
What was he saying about burntrap cuase he said mimic is Glitchtrap and glitchrap is burntrap but Burntrap isn't the mimic endo
I feel like we're gonna have to wait until the next game to figure out what Vanny crushing Glitchtrap means. Kinda like Roxy's mask but way more important.
I personally think burntrap is William Afton and Glitchtrap is the mimic1 software and William Afton some how possessing it
Makes sense I guess
But William purple guy glitchtrap burntrap are the same entity person they have the same purple eyes have the same powers possessed control hypnotized to and there's a decoded message inside princess game glitchtrap William says let me out it's ME I always come back it's William that is glitchtrap burntrap to. And Mimic don't need a charging station at all William burntrap glitchtrap need a charging station for immortal remnants. You may not recognize me at first but I assure you it's still ME. It's still William that glitchtrap burntrap to. Glitchtrap spring Bonnie have the same purple bow tie they look like each other Vanessa has purple fingernail polish and also when William purple guy burntrap come out of the charging station there is purple smoke to. Glitchtrap burntrap springtrap scraptrap William all associated with purple and green to.
Spring Bonnie and glitchtrap are both yellow.
Bunrtrap don't mimic copy at all in first security breach mimic never mimic copy William at all and in the first security breach trailer this is both of you will burn that is William glitchtrap burntrap that has been in the fire been bunrt mimic Kelly were never in the fire to.
How can mimic POSSESSED control hypnotized people and be glitchtrap Burntrap to MIMIC ai program robot would have to mimic learn copy that too from William springtrap scraptrap? William can possess control cuz William is a ghost and William is ghost he invisible to and the mimic can't see William at all and also how the heck can MIMIC be glitchtrap inside princess quest arcade machine game mimic would have to MIMIC copy learn that to from William springtrap scraptrap. Cuz it's a mimic ai program robot program to mimic copy learn behaviors to.
Also also golden Freddy Cassidy is the gold princess with the golden sword that's fighting battle William glitchtrap burntrap there a red old man that is red like old man consequences in princess quest arcade machine game
They were going to have the name in the files as Cassidy be the princess but they changed to the princess also glitchtrap suit it possessed by William IMMORTAL Remnant soul GHOST agony and William burntrap glitchtrap possessed the blob alagalmamtion tangle and princess Cassidy golden Freddy possessed the blob to
And cassidy gloden Freddy princess William glitchtrap burntrap purple guy both immortal remnants souls agony both possessed the princess quest arcade machine game to.
Also how can mimic be glitchtrap to in ruin when there two glitchtrap Black shadows on the wall to in ruin.
Mimic has orange eyes
And glitchtrap burntrap have purple eyes purple guy William.
Also how the heck can mimic glitchtrap burntrap knows nanny staff bot that looks like ballora is Mrs Afton mimic don't know Mrs Afton at all only William bunrtrap glitchtrap know mrs.afton.
Bunrtrap corpse is scraptrap burnt corpse bunrtrap has one of scraptrap foot and mimic Kelly were never in the fire to bunrtrap has yellow rotting bunrt human teeth mimic has white teeth and bunrtrap corpse been in the fire it a bunrt corpse William and springtrap scraptrap bunrtrap they all look alike they're all damaged they're all green they all have been in the fire bunrt corpse William.
Literally said in book that springtrap is scraptrap William after fire William purple guy is associated with green and purple and rabbit to and glitchtrap burntrap springtrap scraptrap is to.
Security breach was built over FNAF 6 Freddy Fazbear Pizza place ect.
But the Mimic1 program has the ability to get in peoples minds so it would make sense if Glitchtrap is Mimic1 also or where would Afton suddenly get the power to be put inside someone's mind, it's implied the Glitchtrap virus is inside burntrap that's why he has the power to take control of Freddy, also I'm the mimic and it's program are completely different just because something has the program doesn't automatically make it the mimic. It also works better if Glitchtrap is both of them which I just explained how that works.
Uhm ruin and tales make the point mimic1 isn't possesed in anyway shape or form.
And Burntrap is very clearly the mimic
The mimic1 program is not possessed but nothing says William could be in the vr game and he could have attached himself to the code in the vr game. Also burntraps Endo is completely different to the mimics and you can see springlock parts in burntraps endo
I was saying to a friend how funny it is that for a few years we’ve joke about there being multiple Jeremy’s like “haha isn’t fnaf so confusing there’s three different people named Jeremy” but it was funny because it was exaggerated it was never actually confusing because they all sat in different corners of the franchise in different eras. Now the multiple Jeremy’s is actually “ confusing “
*pulling a jeremy*
Can you explain that again in less confusing for my adhd brain
This is a stretch but, maybe the potential missing frontal lobe is the reason to why he doesn't talk in HW2.
In ruin when maskbot gives cassie the vanni mask if you listen carefully he says "i am your father' before shutting down 0:48
I hate that matpat figured out thr bonnie bully thing before there was any real evidence then they confirm it encouraging matpats style of making up evidence out of nowhere
I'm not sure the player character(implied to be Cassie's Dad), could be either Jeremy. The game is telling us to "Remember Jeremy", as if talking about someone else who is not present (If it said "Remember, Jeremy", then it would sound as if it was talking to the player). So the game is telling the player character to remember what happened to Jeremy, probably the one who cut his face off (in an attempt to escape the VANNI mask, I'd guess).
You know what? After listening for theories about this, I think there are 2 AIs. 1 being glitch trap which corrupts people and can control them. The other being that old endo stuck behind that concrete wall which we free in ruin. These 2 definitely separate, because they even argue a bit with each other. So from this I think burn trap is simply glitch trap getting a real body and old endo is simply just an other AI, maybe a different version of the mimic AI, but burn trap is definitely not the old endo. What I think about this is for now, We should leave burn trap as glitch trap trying to escape the virtual world, and if It pops up in later games, with more information we can maybe define what it is.
Say what you want, but I still think that Jeremy Fitzgerald is the TF2 Scout
I mean he dies in 1987
@@someonenamedsomeone9497 Exactly
Honestly I place Cassie's dad (assuming he's the Bonnie mask bully) at still being a bit old to have a 10 year old daughter at not quite as old as you. I'm btw running with the idea these events took place in approximately the same years the games got released which would place the crying child head chomping event as happening around 40 years prior.
So yeah if we use your age scale that would mean Cassie's dad in his early to mid 50s.
I'm early! :]
the ben 10 omniverse mobile game ost goes hard
it does (it's actually the console version)
Hopefully the jeremy theory is true cause that would make the bite of 87 have a meaning
23:01 Im sorry, but "The human body can survive without the frontal lobe" doesn't mean its fully functional. Without the frontal lobe, a person will most often become a comatose vegetable. The only way I could see Fitzgerald coming back from that is through remnant resurrection shit like with Mike, but we would need a character with the ability to resurrect him to have the motivation to do so for that idea to be even REMOTELY viable.
21:03 I'd say CC is around 9 and the brother is around 15.
The steam page listing SL as VR simulations is kinda misleading, it says they are VR versions of the classic experiences in Fnaf SL, which is probably just talking about how the SL levels are now in VR
That HW1 dialogue that hints to Jeremy's death doesn't confirm anything. It also mentions a Halloween mask on the floor. To me, it is equally plausible that HW1 Jeremy had a VR accident with a V.A.N.N.I. mask as it is that he had a paper cutter death. Tape Girl is known to twist the truth, after all.
Tape Girl never “twists the truth”, Glicthtrap manipulates her tapes. We know this because Glicthtap mimics her voice, saying “Hello? Can you hear me?” When standing in the hub.
The mask could be jeramy’s face
I have an idea. Its not quite a theory yet but what if the mimic has something to do with what happened at fall fest. It looks in line with the older animonatronics we have seen I just dont know what would have happened to cause it to go haywire
Well, the books explain what happened, controversial I know, but they also give direct answers to Tangle, Patient 46, Vanny/Vanessa, and Burntrap. The question is will we use them.
Like the thought tho
good video! but i mean this in the nicest way possible, PLEASE fix the thumbnail and title 🙏
I’ve been resistant to Bonnie bro Cassie dad but hw2 makes it pretty hard to deny. It comes back to your simplication talk where with hw2 any theory I try to create jsut as a counterpoint where Cassie’s dad isn’t Bonnie bro that tries to explain all the little details ends up so convoluted that I can’t in good faith say that I don’t think Cassie’s dad is Bonnie bro.
22:00 isn't Jeremy a vegetable though (he got part of his brain bitten off)
I like the name helptrap for maskbot stuffed Cassie’s dad
Interesting, I assume it’s referring to Helpi being Glicthtap, as he aggressively urges us to assemble Glicthtap, allowing it to kill us. And Helpi has Purple Veins in Ruin, and Mimic eyes. Likely also telling us that Glicthtap is Mimic with Afton’s agony infecting it
I don’t really see why we’re assuming that the glitch trap we see isn’t just a glitch trap. Trying to control of Cassie‘s dad.
As we see from Vanessa and Gregory, they basically have their own glitch trap plushy with them as they have their own alter ego.
It could just be Vanny trying to stop the glitch trap program from making it a slave after what happen with Gregory as she sees her self, as the only one who can do it properly .
Cassie’s dad being the Bonnie bully completely destroys William as a character for me.
His motivations for murdering the first 3 kids goes from “avenging his dead son by killing his 3 bullies”
To
“I’m guess I’m gonna kill some kids today lol.”
He loses basically any sympathy or humanity he had as a character and becomes a complete joke of a villain.
Additionally it hurts Gabriel, Jeremy, and Susie as characters too
Since they just become some random kids who followed a bri’ish furry who randomly decided to kill kids that day.
I disagree. It only hurts William if you assume the bullies were killed in the first place, and build your assumption of William’s motives around that.
@@siresquawks hmmmm
That makes sense.
I guess I’ve never actually looked at it from the perspective that they weren’t the bullies.
Though if true, I am at a complete loss as to what William’s motives would be in the case that they aren’t the bullies.
@@charadreemurr8673 Well that depends, my main take is they're a follow up to Charlie's death. After learning she can come back, he kills 5 kids to see if he can get it to happen again, starting his obsession with possesion.
A new idea I'm pitching is that based on FNaF 2's statement that Fredbear's had original owners (implying it was owned by different people than Fabzear entertainment) and we see William in 4, and Henry is stated to make the classics in 6's insanity ending, that the dead kids could be a way of desecrating his new creations after Fredbear's closed.
@@siresquawks hmmm.
That kinda makes sense but…
There is a small issue.
Why would Henry (or whoever) make the security puppet to protect children (specifically Charlie) if the MCI happened post Charlie’s death?
The security puppet would have had to be built post MCI.
I’ve always looked at it from the perspective that Henry tried to rebrand fredbear’s into Freddy’s immediately following the bite of 83
And that the MCI happens during the frantic chaos of the aforementioned rebranding.
And then Charlie dies *after* the restaurant opens up again under the name of Freddy fazbears pizza.
In which the place would quickly shut down
And after the place got shut down, Charlie then revived the other kids that night.
Freddy’s would inevitably reopen at a new location in 1987 (fnaf 2)
Of course all of this relies on MCI 1983…
@@charadreemurr8673safety in first place buddy, thats why henry made security puppet before the mci xd
I wonder if he is Jeremy, is there a reason for Bonnies face being removed in FNAF 2
How did the mimic even survive the fnaf 6 fire if it was there all along?
I never argued it was in 6.
@@siresquawks I'm just thinking out loud since it was down there all these years
Awe yeah new sire vid
I think Jeremy cut his face off and his body is burn trap’s body
2024 baby (for my time)
Sire Squawks: My Theory.
Bonnie Bully is the Father of Cassie's Dad which makes Bonnie Bully the Grandfather of Cassie.
Definitely a lot more believable age wise, also would still work as “remember Jeremy” aka remember your father.
That actually fixes a lot of problems I have with Cassie’s dad being Bonnie bully, it of course fixes the age gap, it fixes the problem with Cassie’s dad collecting old memorabilia of Bonnie(it also wouldn’t make sense for him to like Bonnie after the bite of 83) and the other characters since if he really was Bonnie bully it would make no sense for him to continue to collect all of those items after the bite of 83 let alone keep any of it or even tell Cassie that he did collect it, but it would make a lot more sense if it was his son was collecting all that memorabilia, It also fixes the problem with why on earth he would allow Cassie to keep returning to the Pizzaplex after Bonnie is decommissioned since if he’s Bonnie bully’s son that means he doesn’t have the trauma or guilt of witnessing the bite of 83 and would possibly brush it off as a one time accident, and with the text in HW2 about the Bonnie mask looking familiar could be explained by saying that Bonnie bully kept the mask as a reminder of what happened and ended up showing it to his son at one point(possibly in a desperate attempt to get his son to not work for Fazbear entertainment especially if he’s both Jeremy Fitzgerald and the bite of 87 victim).
Forgot Will stuff or Puppet stuff. I'm on the Mimic stuff train. 😏
It's a very lonely train tho 🤚😪
6:47 the trailer says you're play testing them
i was gonna go click off the video cuz you believe glitchtrap is the mimic but you werent saying that it's like 100% the truth because it is of course just a theory and could be confirmed or denied later on by later events, i could be wrong too and glitchtrap could be actually 100% the mimic confirmed by some future game
with these videos i just replace the words mimic with afton and all the hacking stuff with supernatural agony remnant ghost afton stuff
Why can’t it be both? Helpi is Glicthtrap, and has purple veins and Mimic’s eyes. Why can’t Glitchtrap be Mimic1 infected with Afton’s agony, not remnant as his would have been destroyed in FNAF6. Mimic just looses his connection to Glicthtap, reverting to the Mimic.
How many Jeremys are we at?
4?
molten mci goated
SKIBIDI TOILET IN FORTNITE
What?
I don't buy the Mimictrap theory, it ruins the climax of UCN of Cassidy not learning her lesson thus letting Afton escape, all the direct references to Afton are just nostalgia pandering instead of something more and it removes the supernatural element from the franchise entirely.