apologies for the poor mic quality in this video, i was trying to get this out quickly- hopefully by the time the holiday season is over i’ll have a new mic :)
@@entomdp hey man, since you answer me I just wanted to congrats you. Genuinely one of the best thoerus I've ever heard. Hope this will become "FNaF common knowledge" one day
And It Is also the same number of the code that we got in fnaf 3 to unlock the minigame where we play as Shadow Bonnie And that minigame has also fredbear, so it could be a reminder of the bite of 83
@@BlackfootFerretHe's not William... Scott Cawthon game characters are dead, end of story. Steel Wool games retell the same story of Scott Cawthon games but in twisted way using new characters.
I love the addition of Jeremy to the story. It's not exactly a new character but one we just didnt think of. Makes sense really that the others who witnessed/participated in the bite would have their own individual battles with the trauma that came from it, as Michael and crying child werent the only ones there. Maybe Jeremy felt immense guilt growing up, but tried to move on and forget, especially after Freddy's closed. He then had Cassie and at the same time Fazbear came back and was even making light of the horrible incident he witnessed, so he needed to expose them.
I also like the idea of him naming his daughter Cassie after Cassidy as a form of gratitude. After encountering Cassidy, his new motivation could be to save her to re-do his old actions and ease his grief. And finally being able to finish Princess Quest is a beautiful ending for him.
Someone in another comment had brought the idea that the two knew each other before she had died. Perhaps as friends or even Jeremy's younger sibling. (I like the sibling idea over friend because what teen boy befriends a kid that probably has an age in the single digits?) I don't think that's a bad idea honestly. It would give a reason as to why she'd help him and he help her instead of trying to harm him. Because she knows him and she knows he would help her. It would also make sense as to how Cassie got her name. Many people tend to name their kids. (Along with pets and valued objects) after people who were close to them before they passed like siblings, parents, spouses, former pets, etc...
@@mill2712 Yes I love that theory and I love how someone made the connection of why Cassidy is the one who William shouldn't have killed. He went overboard because he was the sister of one of the boys who caused his son to die. Rage and revenge are very fitting motivations in this sense
Side note: I love the absolute panic of hearing helpy scream at 19:15 and him having no idea what to do and randomly hitting helpy with random things 😭
Another thing regarding Jeremy not dying is that in the SAME TAPE regarding the mask, he's mentioned standing and moving perfectly fine. He was very much alive.
Thank you for saying that Cassie's Dad is *not* too old to have kids! It really irritated me that people kept saying Cassie's Dad would be too old to either have a 12 year old kid (the age we assume for Vassie) or still be working at Fazbear's Entertainment (have people never seen older people working hands on jobs before? A former coworker of mine was in his 50s or 60s when we were Sales Associates). Just.....thanks you for saying that. Also, imagine how tragic the Normal ending is if we really are Cassie's Dad. There seem to ge hints in game (and cut dialogue) that the player character was specifically chosen for the job. Ultimately, we are trapped in the Mask Bot giving Cassie the V.A.N.N.I. unwillingly getting her mixed up in Glitchtrap's influence. Nothing he can do to help his daughter. All as a means of revenge from Glitchtrap for what Bonnie Bully did as a teenager back in 1983.
OMG SAME! Like, I get where they coming from but have they seriously never met a person who has their parents be in their 50s-60s when they were a teen? Heck, my dad had me when he was in his late 40's! And he's currently in his early 60's for crying out loud! Saying that it's impossible is nonsense.
i didn't even know people were writing off this theory because they thought cassie's dad would've been too old lol. i was born when my dad was in his early 40s, making him 50-something when i was 12. he was working until he was nearing 60. makes sense to me lmao
the jeremy FitsGerald being the bonnie bully AND cassie's dad is so compelling! and it made me thinking.. what if the phrase "remember jeremy" isn't about 'remembering' Jeremy? but it's "remember, jeremy" as if saying: Jeremy, remember what you did
Jeremey Fitzgerald was the victim of the bite of 87...so for him to not be paralyzed or condemned to eternal care from nurses wouldn't make any sense.Not even in the world of fnaf
Okay but in frights william is somehow alive after being burned alive, springlocked, ect. And then explodes when brought to a specific spot. Michael got scooped and was puppeted by coils of metal and spat them out and somehow still was walking. Even if the video didnt chat about it, imma call bs on a chomp to the brain is a dealbreaker in the world of fnaf.@@Girlfriekdd
Personally, I think the achievement saying 'remember Jeremy' is directed towards the player, telling to them remember this character bc he's important for piecing together what's going on. But I agree that it could also be read as 'remember, jeremy?' like you said since it comes up after receiving the bonnie plushy, almost like a symbol of his past Edit: Nvm the achievement just comes up whenever receiving a plush for the first time but it's still relevant bc the plushies tie back to CC and his toys but idk that's kinda just grasping at straws
So, I just thought of something: If Cassie’s dad is the arcade conspiracy dude, why is he focused on saving the Princess? Could she be possessed by Cassidy? If so, what connection does he have with her? Could they be friends or maybe siblings in the past? If that’s the case, does that mean he named her daughter Cassie because he wanted to pay tribute to his friend (or sister)?
Cassidy being Bonnie bro’s sister would make sense too. That’s why she’s the one William shouldn’t have killed. He went overboard because it’s the sister of the kid that helped kill his son.
@@Hoodi3kneeWould it sound weird if I say Cassidy is black?☠️☠️. Sorry, I had to point that out☠️. I m-mean in the movie his character is blonde and a boy but if we're talking in the game's universe I guess that makes sense?.. Lmao please don't get the wrong idea :)
@@jepjep6740... Survival Logbook already covered Cassidy and she's white girl with black pigtails (like Cassie's hairstyle) with yellowish clothes. The Puppet gives her birthday cake which together with novel Charlie and game Cassie tells us each kid of Scott Cawthon games died on their birthday. Crying Afton died because of William Afton's Fredbear springlock mechanism and Michael Afton's jealousy of father affection. Charlie Emily died on her birthday because her "friends" closed her outside where William Afton was waiting to kill her. Cassidy died on her birthday together with her friends of Susie, Jeremy, Fritz, Gabriel by being lured and killed by William Afton in the pizzeria safe room.
I think it's also telling that it is Bonnie Bro specifically. It was the bully with the Foxy and the Bonnie mask that lifted the crying child into Fred Bear's mouth. He wasn't just there, HE killed him, just as much as Micheal did. He wasn't just a bystander like the others who just watched.
I also like that you suggested that both endings are canon because that's how I interpreted it. Both endings felt very important in their own way, but didn't feel mutually exclusive. The 'giving the mask to Cassie' ending is obviously canon because we saw it happen in Ruin, but if that meant the Princess Quest ending wasn't canon, it would just feel completely useless. Like, why even include it if it's just a 'what if' scenerio wrapped in a weird metaphor. Also, if that is true, it could add weight to the theory that the Princess Quest and Burn Trap endings of Security Breach are both somewhat canon, which is something I think makes a lot of sense.
24:27 holy shit I absolutely lost it when you called that out. This is insane and super compelling I think you’re really on to something here. Props to you!
21:27 Idk if this makes sense, but if Jeremy Fitzgerald WAS the bite victim, wouldn’t that still make sense? As in, Jeremy is so freaked out by his continuous nightmares in HW1 BECAUSE he wasn’t able to dream until then. It’s not just the nightmares, it’s the return of something that shouldn’t be possible. Similarly, the prompt “Remember Jeremy?” becomes much more pointed when it’s directed at someone with long-term memory issues. Then the ‘scar’ in Candy Cadets story could be referring to the damage from the bite, and his joining up with the HW be team, and then engineering for the Pizzaplex would be his journey to gain courage and get revenge.
yeah and didn't phone guy say in fnaf 1 "its crazy how someone can live without the frontal lobe" so he could be the the bite victim and later become the technician
Entom your original mimic theory reignited my passion for Fnaf. This video is the best theory I’ve ever seen. Everything ties together and makes sense.
This theory is very compelling to me and it really does connect the newer games and lore to the older in an even deeper way that I really like. I will say however it does also bring its own set of questions, like how Jeremy died? It's a weird thing to not even hint towards how he died if we are playing as him while he's already dead. Really great video though, it makes you think! Id really like if a lot of these connections came to fruition.
We already know that there was an office party for the remaining pizzaplex living human staff that resulted in their deaths (which is why people believe that they are in the staff bots since the number of former employees and staff bots are the same) in lotodots most recent vid they go over how in one of the maintenance notes, he says he doesn't want to go to the party cause he already worked 14 hours. If he is dead its plausible that someone killed him before the end of the shift, but if he's alive at the start of hw2 then it explains why he may have been elsewhere while his co-workers were murdered
It very much does hint to how he died. In the Maskbot ending there is a flashback of a Charging Station on a stage in the FNAF6 location, Glitchtrap's hand sliding out, and then some person being attacked by Nightmare Staff bots. In Security Breach there is a nonfunctional Charging Station in the upper part of FNAF6 location, before you go down the hole and fight Burntrap. It could be telling us that Jeremy died to these Nightmare bots before he was able to able to find PQ4, locked in the AR world until the events in HW2.
This is a phenomenal theory! This is probably gonna sound weird, but at this point you're sort of becoming the messiah of FNaF lore. Although, I do wanna add my own thoughts. First of all, I think the boy in the story is still Gregory. Remember GGY killed anyone who got too close to discovering him and Glitchtrap, so, what if GGY lured Jeremy to the Pizza Place pretending to help him, only to get him killed using the STAFF bots? Also, to add unto Jeremy's connections with nightmares and Nightmarionne, see how his entry in the Logbook ends: "I had an unsettling feeling that I was being followed home..." The Shadow/Nightmarionne most likely tortured him before moving on to Michael. Maybe that's what the FNaF 2 dreams are? What do you think?
I was starting to get disappointed when the video was about to end without mentioning the Fitzgerald connection but the moment it came up, i was so happy that a random thought I had last a few days ago actually has merit.
Right now, FNaF feels a bit like the MCU lol. There's events happening with this character, stuff happening with that character, mimic as an endoskeleton being beaten here, mimic1 program being detroyed there. I just hope there's a big connecting point eventually, with the program and endoskeleton being merged together and William straight up coming back almost as a clone of the original, and all protagonists coming together to beat this bigger threat.
"with the program and endoskeleton being merged together and William straight up coming back almost as a clone of the original" ... Burntrap. You're thinking of Burntrap.
10:10 “Lost luggage” Luggage could be another word for baggage. Like something weighing on his conscious, a chip on his shoulder, or a ball and chain of guilt. I love this theory, this is mattpatt level thinking and I really think you’re onto something
If the first 6 games followed the story of the Foxy bully and these games are following the story of the Bonnie bully, I wonder if the other bullies have their own stories too.
I personally took the “Remember Jeremy” achievement as referring to the Bonnie kid - the picture is literally of the plushie that represents him and his name is literally Jeremy. I took this to mean that Cassie’s dad knew the Jeremy kid… maybe he was his brother?
Hands down best fnaf theory I've ever heard in my entire life. Its completely full circle. And its definitely something Scott would pull. Seriously, this theory is amazing.
12:15 This is the one part of the theory that doesn't add up; The Pizzaplex opening in 2024 relies on a LOT of stuff happening in only a few months. Mr. Burrows buying Fazbear Entertainment, the first three FNAF games made in-universe, the FFPP sinkhole, building the Pizzaplex, Help Wanted, creating the Glamrocks... Not to mention it relies entirely on FNAF 6 being in 2023, when the best we have is "AT LEAST 2023." That doesn't even consider that Fazbear Entertainment entirely shut down at the end of FFPS. Or Help Wanted directly saying "The last *several* years" in reference to the 'lies' in the indie games, which means the in-universe FNAF 1 released a few years before Help Wanted happens, and the Pizzaplex is still under construction in HW. 2030, with Security Breach in 2035, fits MUCH better with the timeline than the Pizzaplex opening in 2024.
I agree, Its virtually impossible to build something like the pizzaplex in such an absurdly short amount of time, no amount of manpower and resource management as thus can finish such an expensive, Ambitious project. (Even For Example, something Like Epic Universe which is being built by Universal's theme park division is force to be complete in 2-3 years, with it already being built as a rapid pace due to it already UNDER HALF of the park is somewhat completed within its first year alone. just know its take at least double that amount of time to just plaining the area and filling in some paperwork to just Build it! I highly advised that you do some research on how much it cost to build one.) even with my little no experience on architect, I can tell that's it just not possible with with this amount of time, money, and resources that is needed and given.
Something you should remember is that FnaF3 and FFPS take place between 2017 and 2018, as Fazbear Frights opens 30 years after the closure of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza (FnaF 2 local)
@@gojiron False, FNAF 3 is confirmed to be 2023, and FNAF 6 is *at minimum* 2023 because of HRY223 Freddy Fazbear's Pizza closed in 1993 (FNAF 1 location)
@@FroststormFrenzy Not really, the place they mention in Fazbear Frights is literally the one from FnaF 2, not only because in the office we see how they have all the Toys parts in a box or that the Phantoms use the models of the characters from FnaF 2, but also because they remark that in that place terrible tragedies happened (the bite of 87, the reports that there were animatronics that smelled like rotting corpses and 5 new kids that William killed using the Withered Golden Freddy suit) in FnaF 1 nothing happened because nobody went to the pizzeria due to the bad reputation they got in the 80's, also the FnaF 2 location was Fazbear's main location and the one everyone knew Freddy by, the FnaF 1 location was only open for a couple of weeks because Fazbear had fallen so low that nobody remembered them anymore. Another thing that explicitly tells us that FnaF 3 and FFPS take place between 2017 and 2018 is that William's room number in Heracles hospital is precisely an anagram of 2018, the year he was hospitalized, Scott loves to use anagrams to reveal lore stuff, in fact that's how he revealed Springtrap's name.
@@gojiron What Fazbear Frights says doesn't matter, since we've been told that, in the games timeline, FNAF 3 takes place in 2023. A non-canon source in a different timeline doesn't take priority over a confirmation for the games timeline. Even if FNAF 3 was earlier, FNAF 6 quite literally CAN'T be before 2023 because there's a recording FROM 2023, which says Henry didn't start his plan UNTIL 2023. If FNAF 6 was before 2023, there goes literally ALL of FNAF 6's story, because Henry's plan hasn't been planned yet, so he wouldn't have lured the scrap animatronics yet. Not to mention, Henry dying in FFPS, and being alive in 2023 to record the HRY223 (Henry2023) log. "the FnaF 1 location was only open for a couple of weeks because Fazbear had fallen so low that nobody remembered them anymore." The *FNAF 2* location was the one open for only two weeks. The FNAF 1 location was open for *five years,* as we're told in Special Delivery. "5 new kids that William killed using the Withered Golden Freddy suit" He used the Spring Bonnie suit, not Golden Freddy. Cassidy would've murdered Afton in seconds if he tried to use the Golden Freddy suit "Another thing that explicitly tells us that FnaF 3 and FFPS take place between 2017 and 2018 is that William's room number in Heracles hospital is precisely an anagram of 2018" Again, non-canon book series with an assumption VS undeniably canon game that confirms itself as after 2023 "in fact that's how he revealed Springtrap's name." That's also false, he revealed Springtrap's name by spelling a phrase with doubled up letters, not an anagram.
I think FNAF has made a comeback this year and it feels good to see more people make all of these theories that aren’t just fanfiction. I feel like I’m back in 2015 and 2016.
I haven’t gotten to read through the comments yet, but I also had another point that helps to solidify your ending point of Jeremy knowing Cassidy. It would make sense for his daughter’s name to sound similar to, or be inspired by her if he was aware of her existence.
I think the achievement is tied your first plushie no matter which bc matpat got the achievement after getting the puppet plush. Fantastic theroy either way.❣️
I'm not sure what the fandom consensus around the "Glamrock Freddy is Michael Afton" theory is but one particular detail about Freddy in HW2 has bugged me ever since the game came out and it's how, during his minigame, he constantly talks about not being able to see our face because his eyes aren't working and if we are to assume that there is indeed some part of Mike inside of him, seeing his childhood friend could awake that part and make him behave weirdly like he does in the Burntrap Ending of SB, so his eyes not working in his minigame is a way of hinting at both of their identities without openly confirming them since if Freddy/Mike were to see our face he could answer the question the other characters makes to ours about what makes him so special
your theories are really incredible. i look forward to hopefully more theories from you and maybe even a fnaf timeline, as well as a book’s timeline? youre really the only theorist i agree with at all who looks at all the facts and is knowledgeable about fnaf to make all these connections. i’d love to see some analysis vids to clear up a lot of the old theories that dont stand anymore bc this fandom is really not caught up on the fnaf lore due to misinformation
Yeah...this seems like a case-closed situation. This theory makes 100% sense. I mainly agree with this, as I couldn't find a reason for the hands, and the plot of HW2. I also agree with this because it makes both endings canon. The Faz Force ending would be canon, as it leads up to Ruin, but the PQ ending has too much emphasis on it and shows that PQ4 is how we defeat Glitchtrap, which would be why he now uses the Helpi avatar.
This is by far the best theory i've seen about this, the most complete. I never agreed with most of your theories on twitter but this one did actually convince me. Good job.
Fascinating explanation about the "look at your hands" line. That's been bothering me since my first playthrough. All of her PS5 lines seem relevant, something about your chakra, being trapped in your own mind
Great theory! I actually believed the whole time that there were only two Jeremys! My thoughts were that he just got bitten superficially on the frontal lobe since Phone Guy said he survived, but you said that the log book implies that he didn’t got bitten wich makes more sense I guess. Even though the lore is complicated I really do love Five nights at Freddy’s all the way from 2014 when I first started playing it! After your opening of the RUclips channel I started reading on twitter many of your theories and if possible I’d like to know your opinion on some Five nights and Freddy’s lore! -Who is the bite of 87 victim and does he matter? -When do you think does sister location fit in the timeline? -When does Midnight motorist fit in the timeline and who are Mustard guy, the television guy and the missing person? -Is Vanessa somehow related by bloodline with William Afton? -Are there actually robot kids working in the shadows? -Who are shadow Freddy and shadow Bonnie? -Who is Fritz Smith? Is he Mike? -If I don’t get wrong you believe that neither Henry or Mike aren’t the Fnaf 3 guard?
-Don't know, probably not -1987, right before FNAF 2 -1985, Mustard Guy is the abusive, alcoholic father of one of the missing children. The person in front of the TV is his wife, presumably. -Idfk -The WHAT -The two technicians who hung themselves in SL -He's phone guy---in FNAF 2, night 6, he says that you're being moved to dayshift for a birthday party, and he'll cover the night shift, which is night 7. That's what the pink slip is for, it clarifies his name. Michael uses it in FNAF 3 as a way to go undercover without getting caught. -I can't speak for Entom, but either man fits the role imo. I just think Michael is narratively better but that's only a preference
Vanessa can't possibly be related to William. All Aftons died before Vanessa was brought in the story. Elizabeth and Evan died when they were just kids and Michael was already half-dead after the events of SL. So to answer that question, no they're not related
Great video! One thing I disagree with you on, however. Jeremy Fitzgerald is absolutely the bite victim of ‘87. He got put on the day shift because Afton was under investigation from the kidnapped children in FNAF 2, leaving an open spot for Jeremy. The mangle then proceeded to bite off Jeremy’s frontal lobe on his first day in the new position. I believe the repetition of the name Jeremy on people who experienced severe head trauma is Scott’s way of saying CCs name is Jeremy Afton!
Finally someone acknowledged this! The bite of 87' absolutely happened! If it didn't then why would a phone guy mention that way back in FNaF 1? And even after that! Saying that the bite never happened is like saying that Mike works at McDonald's. It's just not possible! Look, I love the theory my guy has presented here, but saying that an excruciating part of the lore never happened is what really triggered me.
The only way around this is that a child was the bite of 87 victim and Jeremy didn’t get bitten, I mean if u listen to mangles radio it said that a little boy got bitten in the frontal lobe so it could’ve been someone else that was the victim
@@mrghost545 after you complete the last night as Jeremy in FNAF 2, mangle jumpscares you. Symbolically, this is the last thing we see of Jeremy as this is the last thing Jeremy sees before the bite. It’s Jeremy.
@@itsdakilla7599 uhm okay, please show me when and where this happened bc u can survive till 6 am on night 6, their was never a single time mangle jump scares u after the nights were over, yes mangles jump scares is from the ceiling but we know Jeremy makes it to after night 6 bc of his paycheck, at what point did this ever happen?
there was a point in the fnaf timeline where jeremy associated with bunnies played as jeremy associated with bunnies defending against jeremy associated with bunnies
I literally got so happy because I was thinking that Cassie’s dad might be Jeremy Fritzgerald and I felt so relieved to see someone else is also theorizing it!!
I think "the Witch" is actually the VANNI/the Mimic as a collective, and that Glitchtrap being destroyed is just Glitchtrap being consumed into the VANNI as a Digital Consciousness. And this Digital Consciousness creates "Vanny's". The Glitchtrap creates a Vanny in the Mind of the Human Vanessa tied to Princess Quest, and When Vanessa got free, the VANNI separated and stayed in the Princess Quest. And now, The VANNI is used the Mimic body to Mimic Gregory (boy) to lure Cassie to imprint a "New Vanny".
I really like the idea of this tying back to beginning of FNAF. It was a bit obvious to me that something big was connected to 'Jeremy' and Bonnie in HW2, I'm glad to have found a channel and theory video here that puts it together well. Ever since hearing the theory of Bonnie-Bully being Cassie's dad, I kind of accepted it thinking it would be cool if someone from that past/start would be around somewhere continuing the work of Michael or at least had similar goals if they weren't working together. Super glad you explain this at a pace easier to follow than Game Theory, Mat talks really fast sometimes and I get lost.
One step further, jeremy the missing kid... sister location nightmare chamber, dittophobia. I mean think about it, graves for bodies that were never found. Jeremy might have been missing but never confirmed dead. Not to mention baby recognizes him
i’ve always for the longest time thought the bite of 87 was weird, it felt like it was never rlly “important”. To me it always felt like it was just there for shits and giggles but now this whole theory makes it so much more important to the lore other than “mangle bit day shift guard lol”
why did this video pop up so late for me lol I have to say though omg this is such a satisfying conclusion and all the points you made seem to absolutely perfectly fit together I'd be surprised if you'd be wrong. This is one of the best theory videos I've seen in years.
14:36 Okay so the “remember Jeremy is tired to something totally different, let me explain. In the fnaf series, Scott has liked to use the name Jeremy a lot, these Jeremy‘s you’re talking about are two different Jeremy‘s, the Jeremy in help wanted is a worker for Fazbear incorporation but this “remember Jeremy” is a reference to the kid that was killed and stuffed into Bonnie because we can find a chica freddy and foxy dolls aswell and these are also references to the missing kids.
I don't think entom also mentioned the fact that the Cassie's dad wrench in RUIN has the FNaF 3 code on its back, which leads to Stage 01 minigame, which is a minigame about Fredbears
@@zAch90ed I made the joke because the initial FNAF storyline 1-6 had Michael Afton as the protagonist, who was revealed to be the Foxy bully. Then, when we thought the franchise was done, we get a new plot line with new concepts and the protagonist is revealed to be the Bonnie bully 💀
such a compelling theory, everything makes sense! except for one thing- what is up with sister location? and what about the other bullies, will they become important too? 🤔
This theory is probably my favorite I’ve seen in a very long time. I love this perspective! I’d also like to say. Mystic Hippo mentions your hands. In game, your hands are kinda just… floating. M.X.E.S also just has floating hands. His arms are just bolts. He technically doesn’t have arms. Idk. I just thought it was something to take note of
this is the first time in a long time that ive seen a fnaf theory that i think was 100% right from the start like holy shit it all fits so well and makes so much sense.
Another thing I thought of does anyone remember how Scott said when developing fnaf 1 he was scared of bonnie notice how Cassie’s dad loves Bonnie this might hint at Cassie’s dad being the Bonnie bully because Scott and Cassie’s dad both had children in their mid 40’s and both Scott and Cassie’s father have a emotion linked to bonnie
I’ve always wondered how the other fnaf 4 bullies would’ve dealt with the guilt and trauma of the bite. I think it’s super awesome that we seem to finally be getting an insight!
This was a great video, looking forward to see more of you in the future! I have a question about one of the voice lines. What does "It kept you for a reason" mean exactly? Is it implying that Glitchtrap wants to use us to free The Mimic from its prison during Ruin after HW2 ends? And if that's the case, how would it be possible for Jeremy to do this if he was dead the whole time? Wouldn't it make more sense if he was alive during the gameplay, got his mind "infected" by the virus in the Staff Bot ending, but was kept alive by Glitchtrap to be his new follower? Similar to how he managed to "capture" Vanessa in the Help Wanted ending while she still succeeded to lock him away as a plushie. He manages to "capture" Jeremy, but he's still able to go through Princess Quest 4 and help Vanny destroy him once and for all.
While I didn't necessarily liked Help Wanted 2 more than 1 (I expected less repetative levels and something more from SL), I haven't been this much hyped about FNaF since HW1 release, which is like almost five years ago (which is also like half of the fandom existance... That's crazy to think about). Obviously I loved Ruin, but I was worried about the next games Help Wanted 2 gave me so many emotions that I really missed, Security Breach left so many questions that I didn't feel connected to the story for all this time. The moment Cassie's dad got introduced in Ruin, I started to discuss different ideas with my friends and we quickly came to an idea of him being Help Wanted 2 protagonist, and it really made me happy, just being a part of the discussion, coming up with my own thoughts about the lore and what's going to happen next And Jeremy, god, I can not explain how happy I was slowly analysing Help Wanted 2, realising that my ideas from way back in 2019, about Jeremy being almost like a central character to the new story, were correct. The last two games also helped me to take a look back at Security Breach and just give it another chance. I really liked it during the first day of the release, but my expectations always show themselves only when I realise that the game is over, and, well, it felt like I was just left without anything, confused and annoyed, with details leading into one another and nothing to connect them to. Now... Now I can at least see that these details were not put in thoughtlessly, that there is actually a lot of lore and care in the world building, which is especially confirmed by the amount of visual storytelling in Ruin; and it honestly just made me feel better, even if it won't change how it left me feel back then. It also has given me the chance to fully abstract from the lore and story wise parts and just think about how cool the visual and like... The design part is. Help Wanted 2 also played a big role into helping me feel that the emotions that the Pizzaplex and the new characters can bring is something else, something amazing. Like, all the new characters that we got since Help Wanted 1 are AMAZING. Glamrocks have to be one of the most pleasant looking thing in this franchise; Sun and Moon are amazingly written as a character and quite funny in HW2; Stuff bots are a really cool idea of controlling this giant pizzasystem and the new endos used are both creepy and impressive. Even things like Princess Quest is aesthetically pleasant and cool as a thing in this world to have. I don't want to be stuck with 80s anymore, I want to see FNaF do amazing things with new time periods, technology and a bigger universe with characters who witnessed the history of Fazbear Entertainment and stuff! I am so glad to finally feel myself back into this fandom for real
MXES is a program made by Vanesa and Gregory. And if your theory would be true then why would he send the animatronics to attack Cassie and not try to communicate with her that the mimic is tricking her?
You got it slightly wrong. The dad is alive- or was until being shoved into a mapbot. He did die though. The ending quite literally showed you being approached by corrupted bots and woke up in a staff bot. He might’ve have been controlled by the mask- to do tests to see if he’s fit for the staff role and implying all the staff bots are dead fazbear pizzaplex’s coworkers (or At least theorized to be)
I think the reason the devs involved nightmarionne (sorry if I butchered that-) so much was because nightmarionne was the symbolism of death. Think about it. In Security Breach, we see nightmarionne plushies everywhere. There are several endings where a character dies (even if they are not canon). In Ruin, just before we enter the elevator, if you look closely there's a nightmarionne plushie. Heck, we get one one nightmarionne plushie acting as a node for crying out loud! While Cassie might have survived, it's a very small chance she actually did. Then, guess what appears in Help Wanted 2? The nightmarionne plushies. It's pretty well established that Cassie's dad is dead and (either his consciousness is transferred to the staff bot or he gets stuffed into the staff bot; doesn't matter) ends up in a staff bot. And guess what he sees before he ultimately dies? The devs know what they are doing by showing us this... (Also can I just point out my rage when you said the bite of 87' never happened? Using Jeremy's description in the log book makes no sense because we know way back from FNaF 1 that Jeremy survived anyway. Like, you could have just said that. Not erase an entirely relevant to the lore event- just saying.)
I'd love to see this being true. But knowing FNAF, we will never recieve full answers and low and behold someone even touches the truth. Bcs if the mystery is gone, so, they think, is the appeal
The achievement of remember Jeremy you can get by getting any of the other dolls first not only Bonnie, however the picture of Bonnie with the achievement still Makes it important. An amazing theory!
I think I'm with you on everything other than Jeremy using Golden Freddy. Springtrap was introduced in the immediately following game. Scott's Rule of Clarification.
Now I wonder if jeromey was in contact with Michael before Michael died and maybe agreed to keep up the fight against fasbear entertainment after he was gone. Its interesting to think that this chapter of fnaf Jeromey might be the new mike like character
For a long time before the game came out I thought I was the only one speculating that the main character in HW2 would be dead based on the books, and it felt weird. I somehow abandoned that idea when I saw someone play the game (I have no vr headset) and watching this video just made me feel validated at the same time as proving me wrong for having abandoned that hypothesys LMAO. This is a great theory
Well jeremy still could be the bite of 87, phone guy did say in fnaf 1 “it’s amazing the human body can live without the frontal lobe”. So Jeremy survived and it is possible for someone to remember something recent without their frontal lobe, especially when it happened before it was removed. And even if you say it’s unrealistic, you do know what game you are talking about right?
The person who got bit in the bite of 87 was confirmed to have lived the experience. Phone guy in night one in Fnaf one I believe says that “it’s amazing the human body can survive without a frontal lobe” therefore it’s still possible for Jeremy to be the victim and in HW2 All the items and references to memories are Jeremey finally remembering his past because as you said if you don’t have a frontal lobe you can’t remember well.
Love the theory but I’d like to edit it a little. Help wanted takes place on 3 fronts and 2 people: -Pre security breach playing as Cassey’s dad and Cassey -post security breach as Cassey’s dad -pre pre security breach as younger Bonnie bro/Jeremy So to start from the top, Cassey’s dad is Jeremy Fitzgerald aka Bonnie Bro. He was recognized by baby in their mini game and told he seemed familiar so either he worked at Baby’s circus or knew Afton’s daughter and it makes sense he would know her since he was best friends with her brother. From there he was apart of the Bite or 83 and maybe felt bad about the whole thing and started to work at FNAF 2 when he is then moved to the day shift but after a few days and incident happens the bite of 87 (fnaf night 4-5 day shift that Jeremy was on opened up) and Jeremy started to get a fuzzy memory of how past. Eventually he felt nostalgic for fnaf items and started to collect like the faz force, and so on. Soon years go by and Jeremy has a kid. This leads to Jeremy at the VR company when the fnaf crew make help wanted 1. We find Jeremy having nightmares and luckily break free of glitch trap/mimic’s control and run away. For a time Jeremy was away but needs money, so they apply to be a technician at the pizza plex. This way, Jeremy can do his job (early pizza plex employee games) while Cassey hangs out with Moon at the daycare (arts and crafts) then when Jeremy is done with his shift, Cassey and Jeremy both go and have fun (the log shooting range, bonks bon, bowling, ect. and also happen upon the old finaf location where Jeremy finds princess quest 4 after searching for years. This is when Jeremy finally get their last package in and finish the faz force collection, only to be knocked out and put into a tampered recharge station by either glitch trap or nightmarion or mimic, from here Jeremy is killed and uploaded digitally into the fnaf system. Here glitchtrap locked him in princess quest 4. Jeremy starts gaining flash backs of the VR game and fnaf 2 with the shooting gallery with the fnaf 2 look and mention from carney Fred bear about having kids & sister location, and starts to remember certain things. From there we have security Breach happen but lead to the connection cutting in princess quest 3 to the main tree hub for the pizza plex. But with this, the glitch trap code moves to princess quest 4 where it’s considered a back up. From here, Jeremy is awoken and saved by the princess and given a sword to where they finally remember what happened with the graves and Bonnie mask. From here, we know that the mimic or the mimic in Vanessa’s headset steps in and destroys the glitch trap code. Leaving Jeremy now trapped in a digital form. From here, we then go on to take over for robots and perform post security breach looking animatronics tasks like Roxie’s face, feeding chica, ect. Over time we design our robot with Bonnie wars but are run down as an animatronic holding onto our worker mask. Thus why our character shuts down, only rebooting when we meet Cassey who takes the mask from us. Leading into security breach. Ergo, the bite of 87 taking place during a day shift is why he can’t remember his past and why the achievements are asking if Jeremy remembers. An these different times also explain why we kept getting asked “what makes you so special,” our recognition by baby, the varying animatronic looks, and the sword in princess quest 3. It all makes sense!
apologies for the poor mic quality in this video, i was trying to get this out quickly- hopefully by the time the holiday season is over i’ll have a new mic :)
I don't mind it:)
Do you have birds? Thought I could hear some in the background? 😊
i do! shes a budgie, her names charlie :)@@tropezando
Yo the achievement isn’t saying remember Jeremy it’s say remember Jeremy as in remember what you’ve done jeremy
@@michellekeen1469 basically,
"Remember, Jeremy."
Another thing to mention: the number behind Cassie's FazWrench and the one behind HW2's FazWrench is the same. This means they're the same one
I completely forgot to mention this
@@entomdp hey man, since you answer me I just wanted to congrats you. Genuinely one of the best thoerus I've ever heard. Hope this will become "FNaF common knowledge" one day
And It Is also the same number of the code that we got in fnaf 3 to unlock the minigame where we play as Shadow Bonnie
And that minigame has also fredbear, so it could be a reminder of the bite of 83
@@erikrodriguez6935 really loose connection IMO because the Shadow Bonnie minigame contains all of the previous ones so it's not really fair
@@BlackfootFerretHe's not William... Scott Cawthon game characters are dead, end of story. Steel Wool games retell the same story of Scott Cawthon games but in twisted way using new characters.
I love the addition of Jeremy to the story. It's not exactly a new character but one we just didnt think of. Makes sense really that the others who witnessed/participated in the bite would have their own individual battles with the trauma that came from it, as Michael and crying child werent the only ones there.
Maybe Jeremy felt immense guilt growing up, but tried to move on and forget, especially after Freddy's closed. He then had Cassie and at the same time Fazbear came back and was even making light of the horrible incident he witnessed, so he needed to expose them.
That’s what I was thinking too!
I also like the idea of him naming his daughter Cassie after Cassidy as a form of gratitude. After encountering Cassidy, his new motivation could be to save her to re-do his old actions and ease his grief. And finally being able to finish Princess Quest is a beautiful ending for him.
Someone in another comment had brought the idea that the two knew each other before she had died. Perhaps as friends or even Jeremy's younger sibling. (I like the sibling idea over friend because what teen boy befriends a kid that probably has an age in the single digits?)
I don't think that's a bad idea honestly. It would give a reason as to why she'd help him and he help her instead of trying to harm him. Because she knows him and she knows he would help her.
It would also make sense as to how Cassie got her name. Many people tend to name their kids. (Along with pets and valued objects) after people who were close to them before they passed like siblings, parents, spouses, former pets, etc...
@@mill2712 Yes I love that theory and I love how someone made the connection of why Cassidy is the one who William shouldn't have killed. He went overboard because he was the sister of one of the boys who caused his son to die. Rage and revenge are very fitting motivations in this sense
Side note:
I love the absolute panic of hearing helpy scream at 19:15 and him having no idea what to do and randomly hitting helpy with random things 😭
HELP I DIDNT NOTICE THAT
Another thing regarding Jeremy not dying is that in the SAME TAPE regarding the mask, he's mentioned standing and moving perfectly fine. He was very much alive.
Thank you for saying that Cassie's Dad is *not* too old to have kids! It really irritated me that people kept saying Cassie's Dad would be too old to either have a 12 year old kid (the age we assume for Vassie) or still be working at Fazbear's Entertainment (have people never seen older people working hands on jobs before? A former coworker of mine was in his 50s or 60s when we were Sales Associates).
Just.....thanks you for saying that.
Also, imagine how tragic the Normal ending is if we really are Cassie's Dad. There seem to ge hints in game (and cut dialogue) that the player character was specifically chosen for the job. Ultimately, we are trapped in the Mask Bot giving Cassie the V.A.N.N.I. unwillingly getting her mixed up in Glitchtrap's influence. Nothing he can do to help his daughter. All as a means of revenge from Glitchtrap for what Bonnie Bully did as a teenager back in 1983.
OMG SAME! Like, I get where they coming from but have they seriously never met a person who has their parents be in their 50s-60s when they were a teen? Heck, my dad had me when he was in his late 40's! And he's currently in his early 60's for crying out loud! Saying that it's impossible is nonsense.
Yup, my parents had my last sibling in their 40s and my partner's parents had him in their 50s. It's not common but definitely still possible.
i didn't even know people were writing off this theory because they thought cassie's dad would've been too old lol. i was born when my dad was in his early 40s, making him 50-something when i was 12. he was working until he was nearing 60. makes sense to me lmao
I nannied for a couple that were 40 & 52 when they had their first. Then they had twins 3 years later.
I don't know if you're still there, or if you'd even look here, but please, don't do anything drastic. You deserve to live a happy life.
the jeremy FitsGerald being the bonnie bully AND cassie's dad is so compelling!
and it made me thinking..
what if the phrase "remember jeremy" isn't about 'remembering' Jeremy?
but it's "remember, jeremy" as if saying: Jeremy, remember what you did
Jeremey Fitzgerald was the victim of the bite of 87...so for him to not be paralyzed or condemned to eternal care from nurses wouldn't make any sense.Not even in the world of fnaf
@@Girlfriekdd This is addressed in the video? 😭
Okay but in frights william is somehow alive after being burned alive, springlocked, ect. And then explodes when brought to a specific spot. Michael got scooped and was puppeted by coils of metal and spat them out and somehow still was walking. Even if the video didnt chat about it, imma call bs on a chomp to the brain is a dealbreaker in the world of fnaf.@@Girlfriekdd
Mha fans yapping @@ender8425
Personally, I think the achievement saying 'remember Jeremy' is directed towards the player, telling to them remember this character bc he's important for piecing together what's going on. But I agree that it could also be read as 'remember, jeremy?' like you said since it comes up after receiving the bonnie plushy, almost like a symbol of his past
Edit: Nvm the achievement just comes up whenever receiving a plush for the first time but it's still relevant bc the plushies tie back to CC and his toys but idk that's kinda just grasping at straws
Entom cmon man don’t do it. We all love you. This isn’t how life should happen.
So, I just thought of something:
If Cassie’s dad is the arcade conspiracy dude, why is he focused on saving the Princess? Could she be possessed by Cassidy? If so, what connection does he have with her? Could they be friends or maybe siblings in the past?
If that’s the case, does that mean he named her daughter Cassie because he wanted to pay tribute to his friend (or sister)?
that's a nice connection and explanation for the name haha
Cassidy being Bonnie bro’s sister would make sense too. That’s why she’s the one William shouldn’t have killed. He went overboard because it’s the sister of the kid that helped kill his son.
@@Hoodi3kneeWould it sound weird if I say Cassidy is black?☠️☠️.
Sorry, I had to point that out☠️.
I m-mean in the movie his character is blonde and a boy but if we're talking in the game's universe I guess that makes sense?..
Lmao please don't get the wrong idea :)
@@jepjep6740... Survival Logbook already covered Cassidy and she's white girl with black pigtails (like Cassie's hairstyle) with yellowish clothes. The Puppet gives her birthday cake which together with novel Charlie and game Cassie tells us each kid of Scott Cawthon games died on their birthday. Crying Afton died because of William Afton's Fredbear springlock mechanism and Michael Afton's jealousy of father affection. Charlie Emily died on her birthday because her "friends" closed her outside where William Afton was waiting to kill her. Cassidy died on her birthday together with her friends of Susie, Jeremy, Fritz, Gabriel by being lured and killed by William Afton in the pizzeria safe room.
@@LukiKrukiI mean we have no reason to believe that the logbook picture girl is Cassidy other than a few loose connections, so we don’t really know.
I think it's also telling that it is Bonnie Bro specifically. It was the bully with the Foxy and the Bonnie mask that lifted the crying child into Fred Bear's mouth. He wasn't just there, HE killed him, just as much as Micheal did. He wasn't just a bystander like the others who just watched.
I also like that you suggested that both endings are canon because that's how I interpreted it. Both endings felt very important in their own way, but didn't feel mutually exclusive. The 'giving the mask to Cassie' ending is obviously canon because we saw it happen in Ruin, but if that meant the Princess Quest ending wasn't canon, it would just feel completely useless. Like, why even include it if it's just a 'what if' scenerio wrapped in a weird metaphor.
Also, if that is true, it could add weight to the theory that the Princess Quest and Burn Trap endings of Security Breach are both somewhat canon, which is something I think makes a lot of sense.
24:27 holy shit I absolutely lost it when you called that out. This is insane and super compelling I think you’re really on to something here. Props to you!
21:27 Idk if this makes sense, but if Jeremy Fitzgerald WAS the bite victim, wouldn’t that still make sense? As in, Jeremy is so freaked out by his continuous nightmares in HW1 BECAUSE he wasn’t able to dream until then. It’s not just the nightmares, it’s the return of something that shouldn’t be possible. Similarly, the prompt “Remember Jeremy?” becomes much more pointed when it’s directed at someone with long-term memory issues. Then the ‘scar’ in Candy Cadets story could be referring to the damage from the bite, and his joining up with the HW be team, and then engineering for the Pizzaplex would be his journey to gain courage and get revenge.
yeah and didn't phone guy say in fnaf 1 "its crazy how someone can live without the frontal lobe" so he could be the the bite victim and later become the technician
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Entom your original mimic theory reignited my passion for Fnaf. This video is the best theory I’ve ever seen. Everything ties together and makes sense.
This theory is very compelling to me and it really does connect the newer games and lore to the older in an even deeper way that I really like. I will say however it does also bring its own set of questions, like how Jeremy died? It's a weird thing to not even hint towards how he died if we are playing as him while he's already dead. Really great video though, it makes you think! Id really like if a lot of these connections came to fruition.
We already know that there was an office party for the remaining pizzaplex living human staff that resulted in their deaths (which is why people believe that they are in the staff bots since the number of former employees and staff bots are the same) in lotodots most recent vid they go over how in one of the maintenance notes, he says he doesn't want to go to the party cause he already worked 14 hours. If he is dead its plausible that someone killed him before the end of the shift, but if he's alive at the start of hw2 then it explains why he may have been elsewhere while his co-workers were murdered
It very much does hint to how he died. In the Maskbot ending there is a flashback of a Charging Station on a stage in the FNAF6 location, Glitchtrap's hand sliding out, and then some person being attacked by Nightmare Staff bots. In Security Breach there is a nonfunctional Charging Station in the upper part of FNAF6 location, before you go down the hole and fight Burntrap. It could be telling us that Jeremy died to these Nightmare bots before he was able to able to find PQ4, locked in the AR world until the events in HW2.
Whoever that superstu guy is seems like a smart fella
Please stay safe dude, we really care about you. Please don’t leave us just yet, u have so much to live for man
Hope you're doing ok man. Please dont do anything rash.
This is a phenomenal theory! This is probably gonna sound weird, but at this point you're sort of becoming the messiah of FNaF lore. Although, I do wanna add my own thoughts.
First of all, I think the boy in the story is still Gregory. Remember GGY killed anyone who got too close to discovering him and Glitchtrap, so, what if GGY lured Jeremy to the Pizza Place pretending to help him, only to get him killed using the STAFF bots?
Also, to add unto Jeremy's connections with nightmares and Nightmarionne, see how his entry in the Logbook ends: "I had an unsettling feeling that I was being followed home..." The Shadow/Nightmarionne most likely tortured him before moving on to Michael. Maybe that's what the FNaF 2 dreams are?
What do you think?
I was starting to get disappointed when the video was about to end without mentioning the Fitzgerald connection but the moment it came up, i was so happy that a random thought I had last a few days ago actually has merit.
Hope everything's doing alright with you Entom
Right now, FNaF feels a bit like the MCU lol. There's events happening with this character, stuff happening with that character, mimic as an endoskeleton being beaten here, mimic1 program being detroyed there. I just hope there's a big connecting point eventually, with the program and endoskeleton being merged together and William straight up coming back almost as a clone of the original, and all protagonists coming together to beat this bigger threat.
"with the program and endoskeleton being merged together and William straight up coming back almost as a clone of the original"
... Burntrap. You're thinking of Burntrap.
ID'sFantasy just released a video today to help clear some of this up!
Don’t know if you’ll see this. But if you do, just know we’re all here for you!
10:10
“Lost luggage”
Luggage could be another word for baggage. Like something weighing on his conscious, a chip on his shoulder, or a ball and chain of guilt.
I love this theory, this is mattpatt level thinking and I really think you’re onto something
If the first 6 games followed the story of the Foxy bully and these games are following the story of the Bonnie bully, I wonder if the other bullies have their own stories too.
I personally took the “Remember Jeremy” achievement as referring to the Bonnie kid - the picture is literally of the plushie that represents him and his name is literally Jeremy. I took this to mean that Cassie’s dad knew the Jeremy kid… maybe he was his brother?
Hands down best fnaf theory I've ever heard in my entire life. Its completely full circle. And its definitely something Scott would pull.
Seriously, this theory is amazing.
12:15 This is the one part of the theory that doesn't add up; The Pizzaplex opening in 2024 relies on a LOT of stuff happening in only a few months.
Mr. Burrows buying Fazbear Entertainment, the first three FNAF games made in-universe, the FFPP sinkhole, building the Pizzaplex, Help Wanted, creating the Glamrocks... Not to mention it relies entirely on FNAF 6 being in 2023, when the best we have is "AT LEAST 2023."
That doesn't even consider that Fazbear Entertainment entirely shut down at the end of FFPS. Or Help Wanted directly saying "The last *several* years" in reference to the 'lies' in the indie games, which means the in-universe FNAF 1 released a few years before Help Wanted happens, and the Pizzaplex is still under construction in HW.
2030, with Security Breach in 2035, fits MUCH better with the timeline than the Pizzaplex opening in 2024.
I agree, Its virtually impossible to build something like the pizzaplex in such an absurdly short amount of time, no amount of manpower and resource management as thus can finish such an expensive, Ambitious project. (Even For Example, something Like Epic Universe which is being built by Universal's theme park division is force to be complete in 2-3 years, with it already being built as a rapid pace due to it already UNDER HALF of the park is somewhat completed within its first year alone. just know its take at least double that amount of time to just plaining the area and filling in some paperwork to just Build it! I highly advised that you do some research on how much it cost to build one.)
even with my little no experience on architect, I can tell that's it just not possible with with this amount of time, money, and resources that is needed and given.
Something you should remember is that FnaF3 and FFPS take place between 2017 and 2018, as Fazbear Frights opens 30 years after the closure of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza (FnaF 2 local)
@@gojiron False, FNAF 3 is confirmed to be 2023, and FNAF 6 is *at minimum* 2023 because of HRY223
Freddy Fazbear's Pizza closed in 1993 (FNAF 1 location)
@@FroststormFrenzy Not really, the place they mention in Fazbear Frights is literally the one from FnaF 2, not only because in the office we see how they have all the Toys parts in a box or that the Phantoms use the models of the characters from FnaF 2, but also because they remark that in that place terrible tragedies happened (the bite of 87, the reports that there were animatronics that smelled like rotting corpses and 5 new kids that William killed using the Withered Golden Freddy suit) in FnaF 1 nothing happened because nobody went to the pizzeria due to the bad reputation they got in the 80's, also the FnaF 2 location was Fazbear's main location and the one everyone knew Freddy by, the FnaF 1 location was only open for a couple of weeks because Fazbear had fallen so low that nobody remembered them anymore.
Another thing that explicitly tells us that FnaF 3 and FFPS take place between 2017 and 2018 is that William's room number in Heracles hospital is precisely an anagram of 2018, the year he was hospitalized, Scott loves to use anagrams to reveal lore stuff, in fact that's how he revealed Springtrap's name.
@@gojiron What Fazbear Frights says doesn't matter, since we've been told that, in the games timeline, FNAF 3 takes place in 2023. A non-canon source in a different timeline doesn't take priority over a confirmation for the games timeline.
Even if FNAF 3 was earlier, FNAF 6 quite literally CAN'T be before 2023 because there's a recording FROM 2023, which says Henry didn't start his plan UNTIL 2023. If FNAF 6 was before 2023, there goes literally ALL of FNAF 6's story, because Henry's plan hasn't been planned yet, so he wouldn't have lured the scrap animatronics yet. Not to mention, Henry dying in FFPS, and being alive in 2023 to record the HRY223 (Henry2023) log.
"the FnaF 1 location was only open for a couple of weeks because Fazbear had fallen so low that nobody remembered them anymore."
The *FNAF 2* location was the one open for only two weeks. The FNAF 1 location was open for *five years,* as we're told in Special Delivery.
"5 new kids that William killed using the Withered Golden Freddy suit"
He used the Spring Bonnie suit, not Golden Freddy. Cassidy would've murdered Afton in seconds if he tried to use the Golden Freddy suit
"Another thing that explicitly tells us that FnaF 3 and FFPS take place between 2017 and 2018 is that William's room number in Heracles hospital is precisely an anagram of 2018"
Again, non-canon book series with an assumption VS undeniably canon game that confirms itself as after 2023
"in fact that's how he revealed Springtrap's name."
That's also false, he revealed Springtrap's name by spelling a phrase with doubled up letters, not an anagram.
I think FNAF has made a comeback this year and it feels good to see more people make all of these theories that aren’t just fanfiction. I feel like I’m back in 2015 and 2016.
a fnaf theory video couldnt be a fnaf theory video without the word "SOLVE" in caps in the title #thankyouentom
I haven’t gotten to read through the comments yet, but I also had another point that helps to solidify your ending point of Jeremy knowing Cassidy. It would make sense for his daughter’s name to sound similar to, or be inspired by her if he was aware of her existence.
I think the achievement is tied your first plushie no matter which bc matpat got the achievement after getting the puppet plush. Fantastic theroy either way.❣️
The “remember Jeremy” plushie being a Bonnie plushie is probably also a reference to Bonnie’s ghost being named Jeremy
I'm not sure what the fandom consensus around the "Glamrock Freddy is Michael Afton" theory is but one particular detail about Freddy in HW2 has bugged me ever since the game came out and it's how, during his minigame, he constantly talks about not being able to see our face because his eyes aren't working and if we are to assume that there is indeed some part of Mike inside of him, seeing his childhood friend could awake that part and make him behave weirdly like he does in the Burntrap Ending of SB, so his eyes not working in his minigame is a way of hinting at both of their identities without openly confirming them since if Freddy/Mike were to see our face he could answer the question the other characters makes to ours about what makes him so special
This video is honestly insane, and I'm all here for it.
your theories are really incredible. i look forward to hopefully more theories from you and maybe even a fnaf timeline, as well as a book’s timeline? youre really the only theorist i agree with at all who looks at all the facts and is knowledgeable about fnaf to make all these connections. i’d love to see some analysis vids to clear up a lot of the old theories that dont stand anymore bc this fandom is really not caught up on the fnaf lore due to misinformation
Yeah...this seems like a case-closed situation. This theory makes 100% sense. I mainly agree with this, as I couldn't find a reason for the hands, and the plot of HW2. I also agree with this because it makes both endings canon. The Faz Force ending would be canon, as it leads up to Ruin, but the PQ ending has too much emphasis on it and shows that PQ4 is how we defeat Glitchtrap, which would be why he now uses the Helpi avatar.
I think that Cassie’s dad died to the staff bots, and turned into Mask Bot, which is messed up
This is by far the best theory i've seen about this, the most complete. I never agreed with most of your theories on twitter but this one did actually convince me. Good job.
Fascinating explanation about the "look at your hands" line. That's been bothering me since my first playthrough. All of her PS5 lines seem relevant, something about your chakra, being trapped in your own mind
Great theory! I actually believed the whole time that there were only two Jeremys! My thoughts were that he just got bitten superficially on the frontal lobe since Phone Guy said he survived, but you said that the log book implies that he didn’t got bitten wich makes more sense I guess. Even though the lore is complicated I really do love Five nights at Freddy’s all the way from 2014 when I first started playing it!
After your opening of the RUclips channel I started reading on twitter many of your theories and if possible I’d like to know your opinion on some Five nights and Freddy’s lore!
-Who is the bite of 87 victim and does he matter?
-When do you think does sister location fit in the timeline?
-When does Midnight motorist fit in the timeline and who are Mustard guy, the television guy and the missing person?
-Is Vanessa somehow related by bloodline with William Afton?
-Are there actually robot kids working in the shadows?
-Who are shadow Freddy and shadow Bonnie?
-Who is Fritz Smith? Is he Mike?
-If I don’t get wrong you believe that neither Henry or Mike aren’t the Fnaf 3 guard?
Didn't Phone Guy even say "live"
-Don't know, probably not
-1987, right before FNAF 2
-1985, Mustard Guy is the abusive, alcoholic father of one of the missing children. The person in front of the TV is his wife, presumably.
-Idfk
-The WHAT
-The two technicians who hung themselves in SL
-He's phone guy---in FNAF 2, night 6, he says that you're being moved to dayshift for a birthday party, and he'll cover the night shift, which is night 7. That's what the pink slip is for, it clarifies his name. Michael uses it in FNAF 3 as a way to go undercover without getting caught.
-I can't speak for Entom, but either man fits the role imo. I just think Michael is narratively better but that's only a preference
Vanessa can't possibly be related to William. All Aftons died before Vanessa was brought in the story. Elizabeth and Evan died when they were just kids and Michael was already half-dead after the events of SL. So to answer that question, no they're not related
This might be one of the sickest fnaf theorys i have ever heard
Nightmarionne was watching you all over in the original security breach too. It's in all kinds of weird places
Amazing ending to the video, felt my mind opening to the 7 suns when you talked about the golden freddy connection. Amazing!
Yeah combine this with Ryetoast, Matpat & ID fantasy's most recent theories and I think we've got it
Great video! One thing I disagree with you on, however. Jeremy Fitzgerald is absolutely the bite victim of ‘87. He got put on the day shift because Afton was under investigation from the kidnapped children in FNAF 2, leaving an open spot for Jeremy. The mangle then proceeded to bite off Jeremy’s frontal lobe on his first day in the new position. I believe the repetition of the name Jeremy on people who experienced severe head trauma is Scott’s way of saying CCs name is Jeremy Afton!
Finally someone acknowledged this! The bite of 87' absolutely happened! If it didn't then why would a phone guy mention that way back in FNaF 1? And even after that! Saying that the bite never happened is like saying that Mike works at McDonald's. It's just not possible! Look, I love the theory my guy has presented here, but saying that an excruciating part of the lore never happened is what really triggered me.
The only way around this is that a child was the bite of 87 victim and Jeremy didn’t get bitten, I mean if u listen to mangles radio it said that a little boy got bitten in the frontal lobe so it could’ve been someone else that was the victim
@@mrghost545 after you complete the last night as Jeremy in FNAF 2, mangle jumpscares you. Symbolically, this is the last thing we see of Jeremy as this is the last thing Jeremy sees before the bite. It’s Jeremy.
@@itsdakilla7599 uhm okay, please show me when and where this happened bc u can survive till 6 am on night 6, their was never a single time mangle jump scares u after the nights were over, yes mangles jump scares is from the ceiling but we know Jeremy makes it to after night 6 bc of his paycheck, at what point did this ever happen?
there was a point in the fnaf timeline where jeremy associated with bunnies played as jeremy associated with bunnies defending against jeremy associated with bunnies
Holy shit "Remember Jeremy" makes so much sense. It's really ""Remember, Jeremy""
Such a good theory i absolutely love this!
I literally got so happy because I was thinking that Cassie’s dad might be Jeremy Fritzgerald and I felt so relieved to see someone else is also theorizing it!!
I think "the Witch" is actually the VANNI/the Mimic as a collective, and that Glitchtrap being destroyed is just Glitchtrap being consumed into the VANNI as a Digital Consciousness. And this Digital Consciousness creates "Vanny's". The Glitchtrap creates a Vanny in the Mind of the Human Vanessa tied to Princess Quest, and When Vanessa got free, the VANNI separated and stayed in the Princess Quest.
And now, The VANNI is used the Mimic body to Mimic Gregory (boy) to lure Cassie to imprint a "New Vanny".
I really like the idea of this tying back to beginning of FNAF. It was a bit obvious to me that something big was connected to 'Jeremy' and Bonnie in HW2, I'm glad to have found a channel and theory video here that puts it together well. Ever since hearing the theory of Bonnie-Bully being Cassie's dad, I kind of accepted it thinking it would be cool if someone from that past/start would be around somewhere continuing the work of Michael or at least had similar goals if they weren't working together.
Super glad you explain this at a pace easier to follow than Game Theory, Mat talks really fast sometimes and I get lost.
You really blew it out of the water with this one, holy shit. This is so satisfying
we are so back
One step further, jeremy the missing kid... sister location nightmare chamber, dittophobia. I mean think about it, graves for bodies that were never found. Jeremy might have been missing but never confirmed dead. Not to mention baby recognizes him
i'm begging this is the case because this is so compelling and honestly a great story
great video!
Entom if you're still reading this. We're here for you, my goat. 🫂
Best take on HW2 so far, like, i relly can see stuff from this video been possible
i’ve always for the longest time thought the bite of 87 was weird, it felt like it was never rlly “important”. To me it always felt like it was just there for shits and giggles but now this whole theory makes it so much more important to the lore other than “mangle bit day shift guard lol”
This just might be the greatest FNAF theory I have ever seen. Everything here just makes sense. Bravo to you and your buddies, entom.
i genuinely love the cassie’s dad theory so much. especially because my dad bought little transformer toys for me when i was a little kid!
This theory is absolutely AMAZING, great job !!!
when you began the candy cadet section my mind was blown. amazing video and wonderful theory.
why did this video pop up so late for me lol
I have to say though omg this is such a satisfying conclusion and all the points you made seem to absolutely perfectly fit together I'd be surprised if you'd be wrong. This is one of the best theory videos I've seen in years.
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Okay so the “remember Jeremy is tired to something totally different, let me explain. In the fnaf series, Scott has liked to use the name Jeremy a lot, these Jeremy‘s you’re talking about are two different Jeremy‘s, the Jeremy in help wanted is a worker for Fazbear incorporation but this “remember Jeremy” is a reference to the kid that was killed and stuffed into Bonnie because we can find a chica freddy and foxy dolls aswell and these are also references to the missing kids.
I don't think entom also mentioned the fact that the Cassie's dad wrench in RUIN has the FNaF 3 code on its back, which leads to Stage 01 minigame, which is a minigame about Fredbears
Can’t wait for after a few years, the FNAF franchise is finally laid to rest, and then comes back following the story of the Freddy bully.
Bro what? That’s not what this video is at all-
He’s saying that Cassie’s Dad is the Bonnie Bully. Where the hell did you get the Freddy Bully from? 💀
@@zAch90ed I made the joke because the initial FNAF storyline 1-6 had Michael Afton as the protagonist, who was revealed to be the Foxy bully. Then, when we thought the franchise was done, we get a new plot line with new concepts and the protagonist is revealed to be the Bonnie bully 💀
This is actually??? So cool???? Thanks so much for bringing this attention, makes me appreciate this game much more.
I feel like this theiry changed my perspective on what is true along with making the story much better, great theory!
such a compelling theory, everything makes sense! except for one thing- what is up with sister location? and what about the other bullies, will they become important too? 🤔
Back with another banger
This theory is probably my favorite I’ve seen in a very long time. I love this perspective!
I’d also like to say. Mystic Hippo mentions your hands. In game, your hands are kinda just… floating. M.X.E.S also just has floating hands. His arms are just bolts. He technically doesn’t have arms. Idk. I just thought it was something to take note of
this is the first time in a long time that ive seen a fnaf theory that i think was 100% right from the start like holy shit it all fits so well and makes so much sense.
Really hope you get better, man
The only thing that would make this idea better is if FNAF 2 had a Bonnie mask instead
This is a life changing theory and I have never felt so many pieces be placed in my head in my life
Another thing I thought of does anyone remember how Scott said when developing fnaf 1 he was scared of bonnie notice how Cassie’s dad loves Bonnie this might hint at Cassie’s dad being the Bonnie bully because Scott and Cassie’s dad both had children in their mid 40’s and both Scott and Cassie’s father have a emotion linked to bonnie
I’ve always wondered how the other fnaf 4 bullies would’ve dealt with the guilt and trauma of the bite. I think it’s super awesome that we seem to finally be getting an insight!
Here before MatPat gets your theory and claim it was his all along
this theory is SO solid wow new favorite fnaf theory so far
This was a great video, looking forward to see more of you in the future!
I have a question about one of the voice lines. What does "It kept you for a reason" mean exactly? Is it implying that Glitchtrap wants to use us to free The Mimic from its prison during Ruin after HW2 ends? And if that's the case, how would it be possible for Jeremy to do this if he was dead the whole time? Wouldn't it make more sense if he was alive during the gameplay, got his mind "infected" by the virus in the Staff Bot ending, but was kept alive by Glitchtrap to be his new follower? Similar to how he managed to "capture" Vanessa in the Help Wanted ending while she still succeeded to lock him away as a plushie. He manages to "capture" Jeremy, but he's still able to go through Princess Quest 4 and help Vanny destroy him once and for all.
Honestly that has to be one of the best theories I've heard for new FNAF.
While I didn't necessarily liked Help Wanted 2 more than 1 (I expected less repetative levels and something more from SL), I haven't been this much hyped about FNaF since HW1 release, which is like almost five years ago (which is also like half of the fandom existance... That's crazy to think about). Obviously I loved Ruin, but I was worried about the next games
Help Wanted 2 gave me so many emotions that I really missed, Security Breach left so many questions that I didn't feel connected to the story for all this time. The moment Cassie's dad got introduced in Ruin, I started to discuss different ideas with my friends and we quickly came to an idea of him being Help Wanted 2 protagonist, and it really made me happy, just being a part of the discussion, coming up with my own thoughts about the lore and what's going to happen next
And Jeremy, god, I can not explain how happy I was slowly analysing Help Wanted 2, realising that my ideas from way back in 2019, about Jeremy being almost like a central character to the new story, were correct. The last two games also helped me to take a look back at Security Breach and just give it another chance. I really liked it during the first day of the release, but my expectations always show themselves only when I realise that the game is over, and, well, it felt like I was just left without anything, confused and annoyed, with details leading into one another and nothing to connect them to. Now... Now I can at least see that these details were not put in thoughtlessly, that there is actually a lot of lore and care in the world building, which is especially confirmed by the amount of visual storytelling in Ruin; and it honestly just made me feel better, even if it won't change how it left me feel back then. It also has given me the chance to fully abstract from the lore and story wise parts and just think about how cool the visual and like... The design part is. Help Wanted 2 also played a big role into helping me feel that the emotions that the Pizzaplex and the new characters can bring is something else, something amazing.
Like, all the new characters that we got since Help Wanted 1 are AMAZING. Glamrocks have to be one of the most pleasant looking thing in this franchise; Sun and Moon are amazingly written as a character and quite funny in HW2; Stuff bots are a really cool idea of controlling this giant pizzasystem and the new endos used are both creepy and impressive. Even things like Princess Quest is aesthetically pleasant and cool as a thing in this world to have. I don't want to be stuck with 80s anymore, I want to see FNaF do amazing things with new time periods, technology and a bigger universe with characters who witnessed the history of Fazbear Entertainment and stuff!
I am so glad to finally feel myself back into this fandom for real
I think MXES could be Cassie's dad in ruin.
Rabbit design, blue floating hands, fights the mimic, and teleports like he is in VR.
MXES is a program made by Vanesa and Gregory. And if your theory would be true then why would he send the animatronics to attack Cassie and not try to communicate with her that the mimic is tricking her?
You got it slightly wrong. The dad is alive- or was until being shoved into a mapbot. He did die though. The ending quite literally showed you being approached by corrupted bots and woke up in a staff bot. He might’ve have been controlled by the mask- to do tests to see if he’s fit for the staff role and implying all the staff bots are dead fazbear pizzaplex’s coworkers (or At least theorized to be)
I think the reason the devs involved nightmarionne (sorry if I butchered that-) so much was because nightmarionne was the symbolism of death. Think about it. In Security Breach, we see nightmarionne plushies everywhere. There are several endings where a character dies (even if they are not canon). In Ruin, just before we enter the elevator, if you look closely there's a nightmarionne plushie. Heck, we get one one nightmarionne plushie acting as a node for crying out loud! While Cassie might have survived, it's a very small chance she actually did. Then, guess what appears in Help Wanted 2? The nightmarionne plushies. It's pretty well established that Cassie's dad is dead and (either his consciousness is transferred to the staff bot or he gets stuffed into the staff bot; doesn't matter) ends up in a staff bot. And guess what he sees before he ultimately dies? The devs know what they are doing by showing us this...
(Also can I just point out my rage when you said the bite of 87' never happened? Using Jeremy's description in the log book makes no sense because we know way back from FNaF 1 that Jeremy survived anyway. Like, you could have just said that. Not erase an entirely relevant to the lore event- just saying.)
I'd love to see this being true.
But knowing FNAF, we will never recieve full answers and low and behold someone even touches the truth. Bcs if the mystery is gone, so, they think, is the appeal
The achievement of remember Jeremy you can get by getting any of the other dolls first not only Bonnie, however the picture of Bonnie with the achievement still
Makes it important. An amazing theory!
I think I'm with you on everything other than Jeremy using Golden Freddy. Springtrap was introduced in the immediately following game. Scott's Rule of Clarification.
Now I wonder if jeromey was in contact with Michael before Michael died and maybe agreed to keep up the fight against fasbear entertainment after he was gone. Its interesting to think that this chapter of fnaf Jeromey might be the new mike like character
For a long time before the game came out I thought I was the only one speculating that the main character in HW2 would be dead based on the books, and it felt weird. I somehow abandoned that idea when I saw someone play the game (I have no vr headset) and watching this video just made me feel validated at the same time as proving me wrong for having abandoned that hypothesys LMAO. This is a great theory
Well jeremy still could be the bite of 87, phone guy did say in fnaf 1 “it’s amazing the human body can live without the frontal lobe”. So Jeremy survived and it is possible for someone to remember something recent without their frontal lobe, especially when it happened before it was removed. And even if you say it’s unrealistic, you do know what game you are talking about right?
Very much true.
The person who got bit in the bite of 87 was confirmed to have lived the experience. Phone guy in night one in Fnaf one I believe says that “it’s amazing the human body can survive without a frontal lobe” therefore it’s still possible for Jeremy to be the victim and in HW2 All the items and references to memories are Jeremey finally remembering his past because as you said if you don’t have a frontal lobe you can’t remember well.
All I can way is wow. This is something I've believed for awhile and you said it word for word. Bonnie bro is Jeremy.
This is honestly a great theory, and I hope it's true just for how clever it seems.
Love the theory but I’d like to edit it a little.
Help wanted takes place on 3 fronts and 2 people:
-Pre security breach playing as Cassey’s dad and Cassey
-post security breach as Cassey’s dad
-pre pre security breach as younger Bonnie bro/Jeremy
So to start from the top, Cassey’s dad is Jeremy Fitzgerald aka Bonnie Bro. He was recognized by baby in their mini game and told he seemed familiar so either he worked at Baby’s circus or knew Afton’s daughter and it makes sense he would know her since he was best friends with her brother. From there he was apart of the Bite or 83 and maybe felt bad about the whole thing and started to work at FNAF 2 when he is then moved to the day shift but after a few days and incident happens the bite of 87 (fnaf night 4-5 day shift that Jeremy was on opened up) and Jeremy started to get a fuzzy memory of how past. Eventually he felt nostalgic for fnaf items and started to collect like the faz force, and so on. Soon years go by and Jeremy has a kid. This leads to Jeremy at the VR company when the fnaf crew make help wanted 1. We find Jeremy having nightmares and luckily break free of glitch trap/mimic’s control and run away. For a time Jeremy was away but needs money, so they apply to be a technician at the pizza plex. This way, Jeremy can do his job (early pizza plex employee games) while Cassey hangs out with Moon at the daycare (arts and crafts) then when Jeremy is done with his shift, Cassey and Jeremy both go and have fun (the log shooting range, bonks bon, bowling, ect. and also happen upon the old finaf location where Jeremy finds princess quest 4 after searching for years. This is when Jeremy finally get their last package in and finish the faz force collection, only to be knocked out and put into a tampered recharge station by either glitch trap or nightmarion or mimic, from here Jeremy is killed and uploaded digitally into the fnaf system. Here glitchtrap locked him in princess quest 4. Jeremy starts gaining flash backs of the VR game and fnaf 2 with the shooting gallery with the fnaf 2 look and mention from carney Fred bear about having kids & sister location, and starts to remember certain things. From there we have security Breach happen but lead to the connection cutting in princess quest 3 to the main tree hub for the pizza plex. But with this, the glitch trap code moves to princess quest 4 where it’s considered a back up. From here, Jeremy is awoken and saved by the princess and given a sword to where they finally remember what happened with the graves and Bonnie mask. From here, we know that the mimic or the mimic in Vanessa’s headset steps in and destroys the glitch trap code. Leaving Jeremy now trapped in a digital form. From here, we then go on to take over for robots and perform post security breach looking animatronics tasks like Roxie’s face, feeding chica, ect. Over time we design our robot with Bonnie wars but are run down as an animatronic holding onto our worker mask. Thus why our character shuts down, only rebooting when we meet Cassey who takes the mask from us. Leading into security breach.
Ergo, the bite of 87 taking place during a day shift is why he can’t remember his past and why the achievements are asking if Jeremy remembers. An these different times also explain why we kept getting asked “what makes you so special,” our recognition by baby, the varying animatronic looks, and the sword in princess quest 3. It all makes sense!
video of all time
What the freaking awesome! New entom theory! Hip hip hooray for theories and fun!
i hit 22:58 and started saying STFU. I fucking love theory actually never stop talking.