The Drop Out (1962)
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2019
- The Dropout by Affiliated Film Producers
The National Educations Association and the Mental Health Film Board
Depicts various factors that stimulate teenagers to drop out of school, using several case histories for illustration. Lists various reasons for dropping out, such as academic failure, need for money, and lack of being part of a group.
Publication date 1962
Usage Public Domain Mark 1.0 
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"there are wonderful things in this world and if you happen to be poor those things seem more important than they are" talking about material things. What an insightful summation. I notice this in myself all the time. The things I was denied as a child are now vices for me as an adult. A wise person is able to see the true value in material things and not spend their lives chasing them, thinking it will bring you status or long lasting joy.
It’s excellent commentary on the facade of wealth culture that is pervasive in the black American community. I know a lot of people who wear expensive shoes and jewelry, and drive luxury cars, but they don’t own a home. Growing up poor messes with your priorities when it comes to money. So many people are obsessed with appearing wealthy to others, rather than building actual wealth. Factor in living in a society that is constantly yet subtly telling you that you’re “less than”, and it’s a recipe for a constant yearning for the approval of others. It’s a terrible cycle, and it self-propagates generation after generation.
No matter the vanity in pursuing wealth and acquiring things, people will always make them their goal because it is human nature to want to GET, HAVE, POSSESS and ACUMULATE.
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It is interesting that this old timer video points are the same problems in our modern days
Ain't nothing changed but the weather...
@@IceManLikeGervin
Yeah fucking right.
Now a highschool drop out can't get any job since those jobs were shipped over seas or taken up by mujados. Not to Mention how pozzed the whole school system is now
@@IceManLikeGervin 🥳
That's generally how humanity works...there's nothing new under the sun. We only think there is.
We share the same opinion
"The game is pointless, but at least you win once in a while"
Damn...
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@@zookunft 12:13
By the time Joe was 15 the actor who was playing him was at least 37.
I'll go back to 1st grade & start over.
This was beyond heartbreaking to watch, and even kids with an education have to struggle too the world we live in is crazy
Wait, one third of high school students dropped out in this era?! Now here’s something that no one ever talks about when they’re reminiscing about “the good old days”. I had no idea this was the case.
Because back then guys could find jobs that made it possible to get married, buy a house & car. Not affluent, but able to get by.
Way too many youngsters are told that college is the only way to go. Those who wish to be doctors, lawyers or engineers this is still valid,
however, having a skill/trade is still very rewarding. Nothing wrong with being an auto mechanic, plumber or electrician.
I totally agree. I hope young people's paths lead them in this direction because we need skilled workers these days. (But reading and high school graduation are still important!)
@@BrittMFH yeah.
I know a kid who wanted to be a plumber when he grew up, because the world needed plumbers. And he is a plumber now... he makes more then I do.
Lawyers are parasites off the people who keep society afloat
My husband was a drouput in 11tth grade. At 18 he started working at a trona ash mine. He is still there working as a heavy machine mechanic 42 years later and Makes $150,000 a year now.
This is a very well-made and thoughtful film, and is still surprisingly relevant.
These little movies would be just as helpful today for today's young people.
My grandma had a grade 2 education. No one in her family went to school - they all quit to help out working on the farm. Education was seen as a waste of time.
Interesting. Life was so different back then, but some things haven't changed.
Many aspects of humanity haven't changed for thousands of years. We tend to think we're the first generation to experience something, when it's been going on for a very long time.
Thankfully, this is something that HAS changed. It’s almost unheard of for a public school in a suburban neighborhood to have a 33% dropout rate. That’s virtually nonexistent today, and it has been for a long time.
@@dewilew2137 honestly, my comment was three years ago so I don't know the context but. 👍
I sucked in math and English. I graduated, but it was called a General Education Diploma. My younger sister was the favored one, the smart one. The beautiful, the talented. Whatever she wanted she got. I was the average one. For the rest of my life I'll never forget the fifth grade. I always dreaded parent teacher conference day. My parents came and my sisters teacher bragged about how smart she was. Then it was my turn, my teacher told my parents how it was harder for me to make A s and I don't remember what else she said. When we got home, my mother said "I'm so proud of your sister, but when I heard your teacher talk about you; I felt two inches tall, you embarrassed me." Gee THANKS MOM!
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That was awful.
Sounds like you were just lazy. Good grades can require hard work which some kids refused to put in.
Your mom sounds like a malignant narcissist. I’m so sorry.
@@davenone7312 how can you say that without knowing anything else about this woman? Some kids just aren’t good in school, but excel in other areas. Some kids have learning disabilities that are never diagnosed (unfortunately, this is far more common for girls). None of these things make someone “lazy”. I sure hope you never have children, and if you do, they probably resent you.
1.10$ an hour then is worth more than 13.00$ an hour now
I’ve actually heard about a good bit of older folks not being able to read/write. Not because they were just dropouts for the sake of the word but many to actually help in providing for their families, even as kids of the house. Idk I just found it quite interesting
This message is timeless!
I never remember going one on one with a counselor! Maybe I was supposed to go find who it was. But THIS counselor got her grade report and was concerned. Amazing.
What? Seriously?? Where on earth did you go to school?
Joe needs to download a pirated version of Fruity Loops, get himself a microphone, and make it as a rapper.
in. 1962. I was. 12. And. Had. Already been. Walking. The streets of. Downtown. Seattle at age 9 catching. Buses and bumming around. Learning. About. Life. In. General, didn't. Like school. And. Dropped out in the. 8th. Grade. And started working. ,am. Now 72 doing. Well for. Myself and. Have. Survived. All. These. Years. \\\\\\Sadly Seattle has. Died******* btw. This. Film is spot on!!! Many famous ppl. were. Drop outs. Who. Have. Changed. The. World
You must have dropped out before they got to punctuation.
This is very Ginsbergesque. 😊
Nowadays, highschool and college dropouts can still be super successful. Schooling helps, but doesn't gaurantee anything! I got a BA 4 year college degree (a long long time ago) and I still have no clue what I wanna do with my life.
Did you decide yet?
@@nancynancydrew8503 no-lol!
@@jameycollins725 what is your degree in, and what do you currently do?
@@dewilew2137 I got a BA degree in music and I have been working at my parent's bar for roughly 25 yrs now-lol
@@jameycollins725 it’s good that your parents have a business that they will be able to pass on to you. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Good for you!
I had to go to college to become a nurse but if I chose a different route I would go to a trade school over college for sure! As a matter of fact before I became a nurse I went to trade school to become a cosmetologist, then went into the military, then decided to work my way through nursing school which is what I wanted to be since I was a kid.
Statistics show that those who go to trade school for the things that really interest them wind up far better off than college students who come out working at McDonald’s because they either lose interest in their major or they just can’t find a job after all that time and money! My kids are grown with children of their own now, but if I had to do it over again I would point them towards trade school.
Why do you need statistics to prove that someone who has a trade job is better off than someone working at McDonald’s? Were these actual statistics, or do you just use “statistics show” as an expression? If I’d paid for that research, I’d want a refund.
Bless you, ma'am. I'm watching my niece and nephew go through the same thing now, languishing in college because they don't know what to do. They should've taken a gap year or go into trade school.
I was sort of a school drop out. I used to go to a german school and the system there is pretty complicated. There are different types of school for different types of children. Because everyone learns in a different way.
I was in a avarage school. Usually we graduate the 10th grade with a "secondary school certificate" if you have grades that are good enough to continue your education until the 12 or 13 grade it is shown on your diploma.
If not, then you go to a different type of school for "job education".
I continued my education in the 11th grade, but dropped out 6 moths later. It wasn't for me. It was very difficult, the system was pretty much like college. I did great in some subjects and had good grades, but others.. No matter how hard I tried, I always failed.
I moved to my home country a year later and got married. Now I work in a call center company with German and have pretty good salary for my country. I'm glad I didn't continue my education, it would have been a waste of time.
But I think I can go to university here with that German education of mine. Whereas if I wanted to go to university in Germany I had to have a diploma for the 12 or 13 grade. Thanks, but no thanks. 😂
Education is never a waste of time. Definitely go back to university in your country if you can.
Sometimes in my life , some of my family members treat me like a child today . If anyone raises their voice at me I could get furious . I had a very rough childhood when I was young . I was picked on at school . I had to struggle throughout my life . If a person speaks gently I would listen . I don’t have a short temper like many others do .
You must have watched the "Act Your Age" video : )
This is basically my life...😢👍
No wonder little Joe couldn't read that paragraph while standing up in front of the class... It was written in cursive! I say that with sarcasm because they don't even *teach* cursive writing in schools anymore these days. I was shocked when my young sister in law told me that several years ago!
I never stopped writing cursive, it's just naturally how I write everything. It's beautiful to look at and it's cool to write.
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I'm a Millennial and I think we were the last generation to learn cursive. Whenever I write longhand, it's usually cursive with a little bit of printing here and there for some letters. Weirdly, my 8 year-old nephew was able to read a birthday card from his great-grandparents written in cursive. I had no idea he could do that. There were some words he couldn't make out, but he's never learned cursive to my knowledge. Maybe his school touched on it and I don't know.
You shouldn’t curse. It’s very rude.
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$1.10 converts to roughly $9.50 an hour. Still more than minimum wage.
Made. $1.60. Hr. Washing. Dishes 1965
i am astonished how an individualistic society like the US had a period in the past in which the idea of someone is life's path wasn't based on some individualistic free agency theory but rather a deep understanding that it mostly depends on the social environment, i would have never expected such a thing, what happened to the us!.
In my life I've personally met two billionaires.
Other than both being men and being billionaires, they had only one other thing in common. Both had only a 9th grade education. When I hear of academic failure, one thing comes to mind based on nearly a century of observation. That one thing is inadequate instruction. I think the notable decline of academic education in the USA can be easily be traced back to the institution of the Teachers Union, and the powerlessness of the PTA.
AMEN!
Mr. Beanz Without a teachers union, teachers would still be earning a 1950 wage.
@@sophierobinson2738 NOPE
Homeschooling FTW.
@@sophierobinson2738 And they wouldn’t be able to teach our kids Critical Race Theory
Joe needs to start a punk rock band.
I wish I had the guts and drive to quit my job and start a punk band but I was already going to shows for 8 years at 14 years old before finally getting an actual job last year at 21...
@@pulledtrigger there’s seven years between 14 and 21, not eight. Should have stayed in school.
"If you take after your father, it can only mean you're stupid." Amen, brother
Education today is very expensive.
Very well done!
15 years old and smoking, I guess they didn’t card people back.
Life before the internet existed was so much better take me back to the 70s. 🚀
Class of 1978 rocked :)
Ok boomer
As she writes on the internet
@Roy Futrell ur mom
Yes the 70's was a whole lot simpler and easy. We just had fun.
14:16 made me real uncomfortable with how close that guy was standing behind the Joe-contemporary.
OMG can't unsee it now
Where did the time go? It's incredible to know this educational film was made 60 years ago! (1962-2022)
I graduated from high school in 1986 and received my diploma. Five years later I enrolled at a community college and took some courses. In 1991 & 1992 I took 2 English Classes and in 1997 took a Keyboarding class. ( Formerly known as Typing) I currently work for the Florida Public School System as a Cafeteria Worker. I was happy to improve my writing skills and learn how to type. In the world of 2022 I think about all the people who have college degrees and complain about how his or her degree, just sits on a shelf collecting dust!
I never remember going one on one with a counselor! Maybe I was supposed to go find who it was. But THIS counselor got her grade report and was concerned. Amazing. So in 2013 I graduated from LMC with THREE degrees all honors, which could have happened in 1968! All I needed perhaps was a counselor to suggest what I should take as college prep courses. But instead of school, I got married in 1965 after high school graduation. Our family doctor had offered to send me to college as FAR as I wanted to go if I didn't marry (yet), but I had NO desire for education. A good counselor could have changed ALL that!
hi, I'm joe and was thrown in special education classroom in 4th grade was told to sit down and shut up!
I'm 43 now and work behind a desk, drafting and Desin. self-taught! ant that some shit!!
holy shit this is sampling gold 24k 🔥
The parents are always to blame. I agree
A video with no dislikes? Holy crap!
Watching this, I just realized a student like Joe in my 5th grade class was pretty much put on autopilot, and the teacher and school did him a real disservice. I ran into him years later. I don't think he ever got the help he needed.
I was truant in kindergarten!!!!😂😂😂😂
school/college: no where near a guarantee. just get that job training for the gauranteed job, make sure it's what you want and are good at. school/college is merely a single good choice out of many. it's good to grow up on or slightly ahead of schedule. life is not long, so the sooner you get living the better. job security, sufficient steady income, finacial planning for retirement, your own home and car, your own time-off.
True, but the point of this video is about finishing high school. At the very least you should do that whether you choose college or not. I think most employers will be hesitant to hire someone who dropped out of high school.
@@trylikeafool unless a person is their own employer
Outside college and the military, (or jobs that require a college degree) I've never had to provide proof I was a HS graduate. Honestly, in 2021, as we head in to 2022, HS drop outs and graduates are working the same jobs as many College graduates (food service, retail)- minus the college debt. Seems like in many cases, HS dropouts and College graduates are breaking even (just my 2 cents!)
Depends on what you major in. In general, you still have more options with a college degree, and the statistics show that college graduates earn more money on average. But there are exceptions. If you major in social work, you'll likely make a fraction of the kid that skipped college and became a plumber. Job applications do make you list your education though. They may not require proof with a transcript or diploma, but you'll have to say you dropped out if you never got your diploma/GED...unless you don't care about lying, which is another problem in and of itself.
@@trylikeafool I know sales people who are high school drop outs that make way more than people who went to college or university, life insurance agents for example,business owners,investors, you’d be surprised, sure money isn’t guaranteed and salary isn’t set but that’s why a lot of them work harder for level pay and need to have great saving habits.
Until that dropout wants a job that requires a college degree, and yes, you do have to show proof.
@dewilew2137 outside the military, I have never been asked for proof I graduated high school. Not once in the last 25 years. What jobs require you to show it? College degrees I totally believe showing proof but a high school diploma? Never had to prove I had it outside military
@joc7693 have a close friend who has a masters degree in biology. Entry level jobs started her out at 18 an hour. She quickly went back to being a night bartender at a local gentleman's club. Hella sweet benefits super cheap near Federal level health coverage kick ass retirement plan. 25 bucks an hour plus tips.
Much better to go to college and then grad school and wind up$100000+ in loan debt and pay it off for the next 40 yrs
Back than college was cheaper and affordable, now college is more expensive.
Yes it is. Make much more money usually and have a better career.
Or don't go to a college that will cost you $100K. It's very easy to do community college for free or very low cost the first two years. Knock out all the gen ed stuff, then you only pay for two years of university. There are scholarships you can apply for, or other ways to keep your tuition low. For instance, I was a tutor and got free tuition in return. I also applied for scholarships and got them. Mind you, I was an average student - nothing special. You can also work your way through school. It will take longer than 4 years, but you can graduate with no debt. Do ROTC for free tuition...there are many options. I got a bachelor's degree in 2011 and graduated with no debt. My brothers also graduated debt-free. Don't assume the only way to pay for college is a loan.
Joe had other options available to him in 1962. "Come on all of you big, strong men. Uncle Sam needs your help again."
The interesting thing is that the kids at the track tryouts looked more like how kids looked in the late 90's versus the 70's and 80's. It must be the hair.
Elizabeth Holmes is a college dropout and look at her..she's got millions!
This is about being a high school drop out. It's about finishing a basic education, and showing you can at least do that to employers. College is optional in life.
Sherlock Holmes did well too...😁
So diversified in those days that made movies for students to view.
“Diversified”?
Jack & Jill went up the hill...
Nowadays they could go make a car camping and vlogging opportunity on RUclips
This would be a good short for rifftrax to make fun of 🍩
The idea of having schools teaching women how to be mothers and wives and teaching men real life job skills, in addition to their regular school work, I think could be very helpful to them. A study/experiment should be conducted. I suspect, all biological women, taking classes on how to raise children and be good wives and all men taking classes on how to have a job in their back pocket, would benefit both very much.
I appreciate the idea of getting young people to think about not leaving school too early but it would be nice to hear a girl say something other than, 'I want to be a secretary' as her most dizzying ambition. No disrespect to secretaries or PAs (most of them end up running the office - it's just a useful way to pay them less). But it makes me think the women who dared to say, 'I want to be a doctor' or 'I want to be a screenwriter' or 'I want to be an engineer' were true pioneers.
Pioneers to a failed society. A sexual division of labour is hard wired into us, just like other mammals, but we have these idiot elites who want to force “gender equality” down our throats. No wonder Westen civilisation is on a downward spiral.
I feel especially sad for Joe's girlfriend. She probably imagines he will be a provider for her, she might be in a bad situation at home and is looking for a husband. I knew girls like that. It never turns out well
Wow
Interesting back then😜
i wonder if the kid who plyed joe conklin in this film is still alive in 2022
I am illiterate , not only that butt i can neither read nor write !!
WE ARE GOIN TO 'NAM!
Geez, the boomers always said those were the good old days.....guess they were fibbing, eh?🤔🤔
Funny you should mention that, everyone nowadays is saying how easy we boomers had it.
Mira costa high school and Phinas Banning High school still showing on Google maps.
Can. U. See. This. In. Relation. To. These. School. Shootings?
Still holds true today!!!
@21:19 Oh really? "He is beginning", continue.
Too bad this lifestyle wasn't available for everyone - during that era
2:04 - 2:15 Look at all those books the girls are carrying. They didn't have backpacks back then?
No we didn't. We just carried the books.
learning could be done at the library, but usa society won't allow that
23:33 holy shit! that guy's been in high school since at least 1958. didn't he get dumped by his gf for the quarterback? and have some issues surrounding being a Christian teenager? ruclips.net/video/numVWq4Y0-I/видео.html I really hope that work experience program worked out for him. He's tried everything!
EDIT: I've watched way too many of these.
parents so poor cant afford them
High School "Joe" looks like he's 30 years old
never do anything without a plan, so this show is an imbalanced view of dropping out. any non-plan endevors are most likely to fail.
True, but many people drop out without a plan. So it's not that unrealistic.
@@trylikeafool that's one of the aspects of my comment; it's too frequent
A few years later they'll all be in Vietnam.
9:37
Smoking 🚬
I'm surprised they didn't mention that Joe could get his G.E.D, maybe it wasn't a thing back then.
1950s American Education was the envy of the world
With a 33% drop out rate?! How could it possibly be?? That’s insanely high, much higher than most other developed countries at the time. I graduated Highschool nearly 60 years later, and my graduating class had a dropout rate of less than 2%. It’s funny how no one ever mentions the high rate of high school dropouts when they’re reminiscing about “the good old days”.
30 year-old high school drop-outs.
Lmao at “Is that the type of job you really want?” No I really want to be a secretary but I know that takes education
Back then being a secretary for women was an admirable career. Times change.
propaganda is iv ever seen it..
I think if that dad had beat up the mom she'd learn to keep her mouth shut real quick
That right mate aye
or if the lady had a better way of communicating to him to hustle. coming home to a nagging wife isn't motivating
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