🎵 Jefferson Airplane - Somebody to Love REACTION
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Love watching you guys. Brad is always so serious like he's studying for a final exam on 60's music, and Lex is just bopping around, just enjoying the sounds.
a agree
total opposites, she feels the vibe, he analyzes the lyrics.
i love lex reactions i prefer enjoy and feel the vibe of the music and then analize the lyrics . i love song in spanish without knowing the lyrics
@@peperino25 I've always thought of Brad as an engineer pondering how to build a bridge and Lex is the water flowing underneath it.
Lex always tunes RIGHT IN to the vibe of the time, the REAL vibe. It's like she's teleported there for 4 minutes.
Brad hardly moved his head...
Yeah, she cracks me up, she just digs sounds so much 😎
"Old school" is cool school. This still sounds fresh and vibrant 55 years later. In the '60s, teen or 20-something artists made very cool music for other young people. That's why it holds up and doesn't come across as stale.
I've always wondered what reactors mean when they say it sounds like old school. Does it mean real musical instruments are played (not computerized sounds) and no auto tune?
Agreed. Gives me Florence and the machine/Adele (rolling in the deep) vibes
Love how she be just vibin and not even hearing the lyrics!
Summer, 1967 was a magical time for Top 40 AM radio."Somebody To Love", "Light My Fire", "Brown-Eyed Girl", All You Need Is Love", "Ode to Billy Joe", "The Letter", "Ruby Tuesday", etc., etc., all spent time near or at the top of the charts...great time to be a 9 yr old kid with a transistor radio.
Exactly! I remember sitting in my Dad's Pontiac listening on the AM radio
Grace Slick has such an incredible voice; you have no choice but to stop and listen - it's almost paralyzing.
The voice that launched a million trips.
@@edprzydatek8398 Indeed!
Well said!
Marty Balin was an excellent singer, too, giving the airplane a double threat.
Classified as Psychedelic Rock this song was released in April 1967. It went Gold (500,000) in the U.S. and as high as 5 on the Billboard Hot 100. We turned it up every time the radio station played it which was often.
but was actually written when Grace was with her first group, The Great Society, which I think is kind of a cooler "coffehouse" version.
She could really shout it out, powerful vocals.
They have some of the best lyrics to open a song: " When truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies...." The statement rings so true.
On youtube there is a video of Jefferson Airplane on the Dick Clark show singing White Rabbit first then a brief intervew followed by Somebody to Love and another short interview. White Rabbit was loved by hippies and acid heads and Somebody to Love was loved by EVERYONE. It hit a note with anyone that lost love at any time in their lives. Bear in mind this was the 60's.
Watch them play and bow to the most poweful natural female voice that ever existed for popular listening. Miss Grace Slick. You've done the reaction so find and watch for yourselves.
Love Jefferson Airplane. A lot of their music feels like it's coming out of some dark dimension that can only be accessed by drugs, It's like the Doors that way. The guitarist for the Airplane is Jorma Kaukonen,a really great blues guitarist. Very unique sound. He and Jack Casady (bass player for the Airplane) went on to form Hot Tuna which is an interesting group, but perhaps not for everyone.
I've loved these guys from the beginning and really enjoy Hot Tuna! Jorma and Jack's live streams throughout the pandemic were epic and much welcomed!
haha...Lex would've fit right in to the hippy culture! groove on, Lex!
Grace Slick is such a great vocalist. And if you watch interviews with her from back in the 60s, she was fierceless. And The Jefferson Airplane is like the iconic psychedelic band which any lover of the genre needs to have.
Would surely check the band Love too, another iconic psych band from the 60s. Check the song 'Alone Again Or'.
Fierceless does that mean she has no fierceness, like fearless had no fear ?
Though it's not a word I've heard before, according to the Urban dictionary fierceless means the opposite of fierce. That would mean that Grace was gentle or timid in her interviews. Is that what you meant?
Alone Again Or is a great song. The Damned do a really good cover of it.
There are a few psychedelic bands from the period that I am yet to hear a reaction to from any of these reactors (seems like as soon as one catches onto something "new" they all do) and that would be Quicksilver Messenger Service, Country Joe and The Fish, and Moby Grape.
@@tommathews3964 Have albums from all the bands you mentioned. There is a lot of good psych. Your examples are essential like the band Spirit,...
You should also hear their other hit, "White Rabbit." the band was reconstituted in the '70s as Jefferson Starship, and eventually, as Starship. The singer is Grace Slick, and she had one of the most iconic voices in rock and roll history.
They already reacted to White Rabbit several months ago. Great reaction, look it up and watch it!
They should react to Triad.
jefferson airplane had a lot more than 2 hits...they WERE early psycadelica (spelling?
@@daveheesen9174 only because you asked, it's spelled "psychedelia." Otherwise, you're spot on, and psychedelia is an awesome subgenre of the 1960s!
EDIT: oh, I just though to mention, look up a RUclipsr, Zarathustra's Serpent, as he has done a great doc series on the History of Psychedelia (and he's gone on to Glam as well).
@@daveheesen9174 -- Sorry, but Jefferson Airplane only had TWO singles reach the top ten on the Billboard Hot 100 -- Somebody to Love and White Rabbit. Both were from their album "Surrealistic Pillow." They released other singles, but none managed to crack the top 40 on the Hot 100 chart.
That said, I did mention in my original post that the group morphed into Jefferson Starship, and eventually into just Starship. Those incarnations of the group had other hits. But under the name Jefferson Airplane, they had two hits. That's just a fact. Look it up.
I could totally see Lex as a flower child. Going to a love in with her friends in a VW bus.
I was thinking the same thing, Lex would definitely be a great hippie....
I understand the basement statement. This is more of a 6 hits of acid, dancing in the park with 100 other people song.😂
Don't forget the liquid light show!
You're diving deep into 'The Summer of Love" (1967) and the hippie Haight-Ashbury, San Francisco scene. This was written by singer Grace Slick's brother-in-law, Darby Slick. Jefferson Airplane also sang Go Ask Alice. It eventually evolved into Jefferson Starship, and then Starship, and had hits in every version. I miss those days. Thanks for playing this.
White Rabbit you mean.
@@ericsierra-franco7802 Thank you, set it straight!
That was an electric guitar with the wild new special effect - "fuzz tone". Pretty state of the art at the time.
And soaked in reverb.
Yeah they grow faster on my little rinky-dink rock ‘n’ roll band which why I was only there roadie for I made one from scratch basically chopped off the upper wave of a sign wave or whatever wave ya shoved in there.
Grace Slick...the quintessential voice of the flower power 60's !!
I don't know if album reactions are your thing, but of you ever decide to do one, the Airplane's 1967 album Surrealistic Pillow (from which this song is taken) is definitely one to do. The psychedelic vibe goes through the whole album, even as the band goes from different styles from folk to rock to soul on the individual tracks. And a shout out to the band's original leader and main songwriter Marty Balin.
I can see Lex digging the Starship at the Fillmore... She gets it! She would make a lovely little hippy...
BTW, the first time I saw Grace Slick on screen it was in the middle of "We can be together" singing "Up against the wall M.F." like she meant it. And she looked pretty fine, too.
One of the best psychedelic bands of all time, full of amazing Musicians with a vibe all their own. That is Jorma Kakonen on acid drenched lead guitar, it would NOT have been cigarettes and whiskey in that basement but pot and mushrooms my dear. For more classic Airplane, try their version of Wooden Ships, it another forever song of theirs. Enjoy! 🎵🎸🎹🎤🎶
And LSD.......a LOT of LSD.
@@russallert Lysergic acid diethylamide, to be "technical" about it. Not that I'd personally know anything about it. I read a lot. ;0)
They were way into nitrous too. I read once that they had a Victorian communal house near The Haight with lots of mattresses all over the floors to give a soft landing when people keeled over from hits of nitrous. A literal “crash pad” !
@@tcanfield 2400 Fulton Street, at the corner of Fulton and Willard North, across from Golden Gate Park. It's still there.
@@russallert Appreciate the info - had a look on Street View and was quite impressed ! More of a mansion than a Victorian. Now I can picture Jorma and Jack there in the old days. I think I like Hot Tuna the best from that crew.
Tie-dye shirts, lava lamps and LSD. The Jefferson Airplane were part of a
musical renaissance in San Francisco 1968. 😎
I grew up in Southern California as a teenager in the’60’s in Newport Beach. It was a great time to be young. I saw a lot of the bands from that era, Jefferson Airplane twice. We didn’t think we were ‘making history’, it was just what we did.
Cali is now a commie dung hole. So sad.
This band you've got to see as well as listen to. Grace Slick is a powerhouse. I saw her with the reformed Airplane in the 80's, and she was singing strong then. When this song was recorded? Incredible.
Somebody to Love was recorded in November of 66, released on 'Surrealistic Pillow' in 67
Grace Slick to me is a very good singer, an iconic group. Groovy physadelic song loved it back then still do
Was out in 67 the Summer of Love. Woohoo, yeah man ya got 💞💞💞💞😘💞 Luv!!!!
Love you guys! And, there's no other voice like Gracie Slick's - check out their huge hit - White Rabbit, too . . . then the subsequent bands - well worth it.
They’ve already reacted to it.
And her previous band, which I can't remember the name of at the moment.
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Grace Slick and The Great Society
White Rabbit is SO over played, and they recorded many songs that I feel are much better than W.R. I suggest trying out some of their deeper album cuts that are never given any air play. I love "The Farm"...great song!
At a live outdoor concert , it started to rain hard and Grace Slick tore off her top and shouted all the lyrics to this song with German accent. She was awesome. This is my favorite song by this band.
she was a firecracker, she'd dress as a nun one night then the next night show up as Hitler.
Grace Slick was my heart throb in my late teens. When I was 21 I met a girl who looked like her. 53 years later we're still friends. I chose well.
me too. i hung a picture of her in my tent at Boy Scout camp - troop leader made me take it down
The flower power group from San Francisco in the mid to late 6os. They set the pace for free love, toking weed , dropping acid, and partay!!! I remember it all very well, I am73 and still a rocker! LOL
All electric guitars here. Jorma's primary guitar in Airplane was the Gibson ES 345. Jorma and Jack (bass genius!) have been together since high school and still play together in Hot Tuna (Jorma now in his 80s and Jack late 70s). Grace Slick was one of the few female lead vocalists in bands of the day, along with Janis, and she could go toe to toe with the guys! Such a powerful voice!! Four lead vocalists in the band, Grace and Marty Balin primarily, with Paul Kantner and Jorma Kaukonen. This is another band with a huge catalog! "Crown of Creation" "3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds" (live, from "Bless it's Little Pointed Head") "Eskimo Blue Day" anything from the "Volunteers" album, "The Farm" is a favorite of mine along with "Wooden Ships" "We Can be Together" "Good Shepherd". Fabulous album! The very first Jefferson Starship album, "Blows Against the Empire" is a psychedelic masterpiece and should be consumed entirely and often! Garcia, Crosby, Nash, Billy K, Mickey Hart, Frieberg, etc. are onboard The Starship for blastoff. It's a DO NOT MISS album! Want a great, totally different, sleeper song from Airplane, it's Jorma's finger picking masterpiece "Third Week in The Chelsea"! Jorma and Grace on vocals. Outstanding!
The Airplane were at the very beating heart of the Summer Of Love, hippie, flower power, anti-war, San Francisco 67-68 scene that changed the sound and course of Rock. We were playing some of the same San Fran clubs as them and occasionally sat in onstage with tambourine, maracas or whatever was around. After one concert, some of the band (Jorma, whose guitar you were talking about & the bass player) came over to our band house and I got shockingly wrecked on my first experience of high-octane, Grade A, USDA genuine Rock Star w__d! Oh what a time it was, & Grace Slick & JA were the soundtrack.
"Cigarette" smoking in the basement...Oh, Lex! 😆
Even Robot was getting all into this one....lol Great, classic song.
Another Airplane classic is Volunteers. Someone else mentioned Wooden Ships which you guys might like as well.
There never was nor ever will there ever be another Grace Slick .. She is simply unique. The band followed her
Smoking was done everywhere. Right at the dinner table, living room, t.v. shows etc. Smoking cigarettes did not become addressed until the 90's to what is practiced today. In the sixties you were always near someone smoking cigarettes. My High School had a smoking area. I graduated in 75'.
Brad & Lex you’ll love Jefferson Starship’s “Miracles”, “Count On Me” and “Play On Love”!!! (fyi, in chronological order, it was Jefferson Airplane, then Jefferson Starship and then just Starship. Singer Grace Slick was in all 3).
The first was Grace Slick & The Great Society. Only group to have hits under four different names. I think they're touring as Jefferson Starship again.
@@dr.burtgummerfan439 "Somebody to Love" was not a hit for The Great Society(written by band member and her brother-in-law Darby), and none of the other members followed Grace to Jefferson Airplane.
Miracles uncut version 😁
Just don't do, We built this city.
Lex has a hippie heart ❤️ ☮️
Grace Slick’s voice can cut through the hardest heart
I used to work with the physically disabled. One of the guys got tickets for an 'oldies' show being recorded as a PBS special. I was chosen to be his escort. We were part of the studio audience. Peter Noone was the MC. From what I was told, I was expecting a show full of doo-wop and 50's groups. After recording some clips for the show introduction with on demand audience applause, the director turned to this bunch of old guys and a young woman setting up on stage, and asked if they wanted to do their set early, since they were already set up. They agreed. After a few minutes Peter Noone steps up to the mike and says, "Ladies and Gentelman, I'd like to introduce a band from the 60's, 70's and 80's... Jefferson Starship!" I couldn't believe what I had just heard. They broke into Somebody to Love, the first song in their set, and I lost it. Grace Slick wasn't there, but the young woman singing was channeling Grace Slick energy. The band was kicking sonic ass. The hair stood up on the back of my neck. I'll never forget the night I got paid to see an iconic band that played at Woodstock.
For Brad's question about electric/acoustic guitars: Jorma Kaukonen was playing lead on an Epiphone Riviera, a thin (shallow) 6-string semi-hollowbody electric guitar he used a lot during the Jefferson Airplane days, and the rhythm parts were played by Paul Kantner on a Rickenbacker 360/12 which was a 12 string electric guitar made famous by George Harrison of The Beatles and Roger McGuinn of The Byrds, and also by Pete Townshend on the 67-68 The Who recordings. It gives a very interesting thick treble-heavy jangly sound that works really well when the amp is distorted a little bit. I do not know what amp setup they were playing through, but I bet if you emailed Mr. Kaukonen, he'd be happy to tell you.
"Psychedelic" is pretty much the term for this band. They were one of the inventors of the genre.
I guess I never realized how much Jefferson Airplane sounds like Cream..."Class of 76"...I've just been jammin to them for all these years...
Lex is certainly her mother's daughter. Great chair dancers. When is mom coming back? 🇨🇦🤗
Some genius isolated Ms. Slick's amazing voice singing "White Rabbit" and posted it on RUclips. Guaranteed to raise every hair on your body. A treat to be relished and cherished.
Old hard rockers called this kinda guitar sound "jingley-jangley!" It's electric guitar but with a bit of overdrive rather than full on distortion and often played on a semi hollow-body.
My thoughts exactly, an older hollow body electric
Can't get any more old school than Psycadelic Rock! Grace Slick on vocals is haunting! Of course Jim Carrey's edition on Cable Guy is very entertaining!
Classic for sure. 👍
Grace is one of the few women who can rival Ann Wilson. That voice is pure magic.
agree. Grace was a strong front woman for 60's rock and Ann took the wheel for the 70's
Loved it back then...Still do. Grace was beautiful and had a great voice. She was a pioneer.
Brad, just about every company today that builds amplifier’s, tries to replicate those of the early 60’s, however there are exceptions with solid state circuitry. That vintage sound is very important to many bands. When it comes to guitars, there are really no electric guitars that sound like acoustic guitars, so if it sounds like an electric, it most likely is. There are electric acoustic guitars, but they sound like acoustic guitars, just amplified!
Lex was clearly born decades late. She has a wonderful, free spirit that would slot right into the sixties without any changes. Brad, on the other hand, is definitely a product of the cynical 21st century.
One of the funniest scenes I've ever seen of Jim Carrey, was him singing this song in Karaoke in the movie "The Cable Guy". It's hilarious.
I was there! 20 years old in '68, the SUMMER OF LOVE, LOL! But really, still diggin' the sound from those days. JA can't be divorced from that San Fran scene, the birthplace really of Psychedelia ... and you don't have to be an ACID HEAD to appreciate it .... Keep On Truckin!
Solid rock song from the 60s Acid Rock scene. Grace Slick on vocals just draws you in. I love the og Jefferson Airplane!
If you like the guitar sound of Jefferson Airplane, It's worth diving deeper into their music. It's also worth looking into Quicksilver Messenger Service who gets similar kinds of guitar tones.
Hot Tuna also, Jorma Kaukonan played guitar in both bands
" Happy Trails".
Have Another Hit!!! 👍👍👍👍❤
@@lindakessler8768 Of fresh air!
@@anton1949 That "Who Do You Love" suite belongs in a museum with the best live recordings of the era.
Jefferson Airplane was an amazing live band. They were one of the few to play both Woodstock and Altamont, which was the infamous concert where Hells Angels did security and a man was murdered. Also, they knocked out the lead singer. Grace Slick was such a great and raw vocalist. If you listen to their performance of “Saturday Afternoon “ at Woodstock, it is mesmerizing and way better than the recorded version.
i LOVE the Woodstock version of "Saturday Afternoon" - raw but beautiful. those vocals!!
Ah the Acid Queen. My all time favorite female vocalist. And she was hot in the 60s and 70s
Grace Slick is one of my favorite female singers. Some other songs she wrote (her brother-in-law wrote this) and sang lead on are 1) Law Man, 2) Better Lying Down, 3) Eskimo Blue Day, 4) Two Heads (very psychedelic), and 5) Rejoyce.
all good songs. also Lather, Greasy Heart, Hey Frederick, Sunrise and of course White Rabbit.
Originally recorded by the great society grace slick and brother in law Darby slick. Grace brought it over to the Jefferson airplane.
Lead guitarist is Jorma Kaukonen who says he used a guild thunderbird, rythem guitar is Paul katner playing a Rickenbacker. These brands were used by a number of psychedelic bands for their sound. Rickenbackers supposedly had a jingle jangle sound. The byrds even used that line in a song.
By the way Jorma Kaukonen is underated as a guitarist and people forget him as an airplane member. He started a band called hot tuna after airplane. Great jazz influenced stuff. Still playing today.
Also if you were in a basement or club with this playing it was probably a different kind of cigarette, and drinks were spiked with something other than alcohol.
Green & orange shag carpet was "in" back then. Things got lost in that shag,...never to be found again!! Lol...
Love Grace she had such a hauntingly beautiful voice. She’s in her 80’s now I think.
Wow just hearing Grace Slick sing someone to love it's almost like hearing it for the first time.What a great group they were back then. There has never been a time when life wasn't tummaltus every generation of Americans have always had to fight a war. Jefferson Airplane was a group that entertained us through the height of the Vietnam War
I love their Lead Singer Grace Slick, and this is my second favorite, Jefferson Airplane song
saw the Airplane in Nov 1969 Wilkes Barre Pa Armory. Grace was VERY pregnant with China. The played for 3 or 3 hours, took a break and came back out and played for at least another hour and a half.
The song that made Grace Slick a star. She had been a replacement (the original singer, Signe Andersson, got pregnant and couldn't go on tour), but this song made everyone forget about Signe.
It was written by Grace's ex-husband, Darby Slick. It might have upset Darby to see Grace date multiple people in the group (she eventually married Paul Kantner, the rhythm guitarist) but, hey, he's probably made a LOT of money from the publishing rights, so…
You should do anything from their Woodstock show. "Volunteers" or "Wooden Ships", especially.
i still remember riding in my parents car hearing "when the truth is found to be lies..." assault me on their AM radio. i was immediately hooked on the voice and the band. amazing Grace how sweet the sound.
Great reaction, guys. I just love watching Lex groove to songs like this. You guys were half right with your vision of what it must have been like listening to this song back then. Grace Slick was known as "the voice that launched 1,000 trips", when you were smoking in the basement listening to Jefferson Airplane, the smoke wasn't exactly coming from cigarettes!
Jefferson Airplane catalog is very deep. They had one of the best guitarists on the planet, one of the best bassists, one of the best female singers, and one of the best song writing duos in existence in Kantner/Balin. If you want a deep dive, check out that band's first 5 albums....
The Jefferson Airplane was groovy. Lex, you are a flower child! Right on. And Brad, this song works for you, since you com off as lit.
They had some great songs - "White Rabbit", "Volunteers", "We Can Be Together", "Come Up the Years", "Martha", "Today" - they were one of the bands at the heart of San Francisco's acid psychedelia era in the late 60s.
What an amazing singer .. what a beautiful song .. that was an anthem for the hippie era .. if there’s any song that reminds you of the 60’s it’s this 🔥❤️
Jane, by Jefferson Starship, which is them years later is really good as well. Micky`s voice s incredible.
smokin something in the basement. but probably not cigs. Love Grace with the Airplane. Also when they broke up into Jefferson Starship and Hot Tuna, I go more for Hot Tuna. Check out "Keep On Truckin'," "Hesitation Blues," etc. Watching giant Jorma wrap his enormous fingers around a guitar, making it look like a toy is just amazing.
For more Airplane, try "Plastic, Fantastic Lover" "Comin' Back to Me" or "Wooden Ships."
San Francisco bay sound, late 60s into the 70s...Jefferson Airplane became Jefferson Starship became Starship, and along the way, a whole lotta good music...White Rabbit, Somebody To Love, Wooden Ships, Ride the Tiger, Plastic Fantastic Lover, Miracles, With Your Love, Runaway, Count On Me, Jane, No Way Out, Sarah, We Built This City, Find Your Way Back (more)
The guitar sound was a common sound of guitar players in the San Francisco area bands..... Quicksilver messenger service ...Big Brother and the holding company
Lex can really paint a picture when she's describing a feeling.
Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow set the summer of 1967 on fire. Not to mention a few spleefs.
All the guys loved Grace Slick 50+ years ago, she had almost as distinctive a voice as Janis…almost…but great looks to go along with it.
You can always depend on Lex to have a unique perspective. 😄
You just described our 70’s house. gold shag carpet that came with a carpet rake. You had to rake it because the shag was soo long. 🤣 groovy
I think Lex transported herself to the sixties for a few seconds 3:29
Grace had serious pipes! Amazing vocalist.
Backing vocals, Marty Balin, are really interesting in their delivery and give the song an additional vibe.
The wood paneling and yellow carpet would be the early 70s I know because that’s how my parents decorated their house in the early 70s😂😂😂😂
Early 70s, not really late 60s as much, yeah, man. Back when "rap" meant "to talk".
Psychedelic Pillow a must if you really want to hear the Airplane and music from the 60’s.
Oh had forgot this song, its got a great sound to it , thier voices are wonderful and song sounds like classic 60s
Oh Ya that little girl can sing!! Thanks for the memories!
Jorma Kaukonen played a hollow body electric guitar (I think a Gibson). That plus those old tube amps gave him that tone. Loved his stuff. I was a big JA fan.
Early Airplane is the essence of the 60s San Fransicso vibe.
Grace slick's amazing voice on full display in this song
For a JA song that will get you in the feels, try "Comin' Back to Me" from the same album.
Lex would have definitely been in her groove during the 60’s, hippie movement!
I absolutely adore this song and the beautiful Grace Slick
I love 60’s rock! I love Jefferson airplane. That’s my favorite song by them. I’m born 1999 btw so as you can see I’m an old soul.
You are hearing the birth of psychedelic rock music, and that’s a now vintage but probably not that old in 1967 Gibson electric guitar and a silvertone amp with a magical solo that sounds like he’s playing it backwards but who knows what secrets they used to get that sound.
In concert Grace was known to change the lyrics to "But in your BED baby, I'm afraid you don't know where it is".
Love Grace Slick, this was one of my favorite songs in the late 60's
Lol yous guys comments totally reminded me of parties at my g&g house when I was a pup...everybody smoking in the basement...good times that I miss
The Airplane was the very heart of 60's psychedelia. Much later they bought the corporate ticket to become a superstar group though.
Jorma Kaukonen, their lead guitar player had one of the best psychedelic guitar sounds ever!
This album was released when I was in my early 20s, and in graduate school in S Calif. I did have a beautiful patterned carpet, Lex, but no basement. I have great memories of those times.
SPRING OF '67, GRACE SLICK HAD JUST JOINED THE BAND, & THIS WAS THEIR 1ST RECORDING. -----------NO, IT'S THE PSYCHEDILIC 60'S TRIPPING ON ACID, FOLKS ! 60'S !! YOU 2 SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. -------------MJL, 75, Y/O