He paid for the tats when he got them therefore they belong to him unless otherwise stipulated. Copywriting tattoos is a great way loose business and are all a modification away from being new material. Maybe start giving loosers awful tattoos.
I used to want tattoo but this ruling ha mad it completely demonic weather it's even a cross. ✝️ what makes this demonic is that it's like saying someone owns my body the only one how owns me is God. Infact i can promise you this though we were not stupid for thinking they legally can't do that because the verdict is over reaching the law. It would infact the law would have been honored. They made this corrupt verdict despite the law.
Those tattoos belong to Orton they are his arms not hers. The amount of self entitlement it would take to do this. He's had the tattoos for over a decade. Why does she deserve more money for shit she got paid for
She was right about the sleeves. Not about the game. But she got greedy so I'm happy she only got a couple grand. I wonder though... Was there ever some similar story about The Rock and his Bramah Bull tattoo? Its definitely more famous than Ortons ink.
Originally the logo design for the brahma bull was WWE trademark, but Johnson actually bought the rights and owns it to date which is why the logo appears on his merch and 7 bucks related items now
When you buy an album, there's a reason you can't then play that song in your own film. It is still owned by the owner of the IP. Same as if you get a bunch of photos done by a pro photographer, that photographer owns those images, you've just paid for your copies. The only way I could see there possibly being a case here would be if Orton designed each of the tattoos, and hired an artist on an almost freelance basis just to do the art work. Think of how the session musicians don't own the music, compared to the band that wrote the song.
While I agree about the sleeves, I think the minute the artist accepts payment for the work done, the person receiving the tattoo now becomes the owner of the work and should be free to do as they choose with it. Which makes me curious. If it was chosen out of a book are the drawings in the book copyrighted? And if they are and someone choosing to get a tattoo gets his or her own idea done (not in the book). Does the tattoo artist have any legalities over the sketch of another person’s idea?
To my knowledge if the designs are created by the artist its the same as a painting or a sketch - they have the copyright. If they're handed an image (like cm punk's pepsi tattoo) the artist has no ownership over it without distinct changes to the design
They only lost 3k that's basically pennies for WWE for Billionaire company the lawsuit could've been worse or cost millions instead so logically WWE won and women only has 1/5 of what she makes. A year xD
I did a ton of digging because I thought the same - specifically "well do they have the rights, can she go after the content from years since, etc" but he's covered up or altered a majority of her ink to the point its difficult to distinguish anymore which is why the dates the claim is for end in 2008 (when he got his sleeves updated)
So if she had the artwork copyrighted she should have had Randy Orton sign some kind of legal paperwork where he acknowledges the art on his arms belongs to her ... But the way that I look at it after she's had two damages on his arms once he gave her money and paid her he then owned those images... A transaction took place where he paid her for those images... Her lawsuit was bullshit.. and I'm betting the only reason she copyrighted those images anyway is so she could do what she did... If it would have been an ordinary person she would not have ever copyrighted the images...
That's why I'm more curiously following the Luchasaurus lawsuit because he actually did sign that agreement and either AEW wasn't aware of it or unaware that the agreement did not include merchandising rights.
This is what happens when Jury lacks 3 Digits in their IQ. Its like Mike Tyson had the Face Tat that person sued over him being in The Hangover. Its really not something I'd even allow a copywrite on a its not original also Death Dealer from Frank Frazetta is used by Army even altering the Shield logo. Anime or Manga characters are sold on shirts by people everyday. Maybe the sleeves seem pushing it but its just trying to be like Randy Orton. Maybe if they had CAW option to use those tats in video game without him in it that might be an issue. Even then its utter BS another reason I don't support copywrite claims or anything related. She got more money than deserved. Hopefully she lost hundreds of thousands wasting courts time etc. Very Petty :).
Def agree on the sleeve sales, but she just wanted money. Glad she didn't get much and I hope this doesn't affect the games with other tattoo artists. Definitely agree that nobody bought the game to get her tattoos. I think the NFL/NBA games don't even have them in there at all
Can someone appeal a court case they have won? The answer is yes. They can sue for more damages and the like. It's very rare that they will actually win and they can't go after the defendants for the same thing (See double jeopardy law). I'm glad she won but I whole heartedly agree with your video game take. That is unavoidable. The sleeves are one thing, but the likeness is all orton in game.
I agree about the sleeves - like you said, it’s literally her design that was for sale. The video games and any other likeness stuff claims, are ridiculous. Randy paid for the tattoo, it’s his. He should be able to do anything, appear anywhere and not be concerned about the artist one bit. So that’s crazy. But the sleeves being sold as a product of it’s own, without her being paid, that’s really something else. That’s literally her design (apparently) and the design on it’s own, without being on Randy’s skin, doesn’t belong to Randy, or WWE, but her.
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What do you think of Randy Orton's tattoos? And were there any REAL winners in this lawsuit?
He paid for the tats when he got them therefore they belong to him unless otherwise stipulated. Copywriting tattoos is a great way loose business and are all a modification away from being new material. Maybe start giving loosers awful tattoos.
I used to want tattoo but this ruling ha mad it completely demonic weather it's even a cross. ✝️ what makes this demonic is that it's like saying someone owns my body the only one how owns me is God. Infact i can promise you this though we were not stupid for thinking they legally can't do that because the verdict is over reaching the law. It would infact the law would have been honored. They made this corrupt verdict despite the law.
Those tattoos belong to Orton they are his arms not hers. The amount of self entitlement it would take to do this. He's had the tattoos for over a decade. Why does she deserve more money for shit she got paid for
It's so stupid he literally paid her to paint that on his body, but glad she didn't get too much money out of it
i feel like they made the verdict despite the law they were acting out side the law
She was right about the sleeves. Not about the game. But she got greedy so I'm happy she only got a couple grand. I wonder though... Was there ever some similar story about The Rock and his Bramah Bull tattoo? Its definitely more famous than Ortons ink.
Originally the logo design for the brahma bull was WWE trademark, but Johnson actually bought the rights and owns it to date which is why the logo appears on his merch and 7 bucks related items now
@@JOBdOut Good business strategy. Pity he covered it up though it was iconic.
Hey! Nothing you can say
Yeah it's your body your choice until some entitled cunt wants money for your arms.
When you buy an album, there's a reason you can't then play that song in your own film. It is still owned by the owner of the IP.
Same as if you get a bunch of photos done by a pro photographer, that photographer owns those images, you've just paid for your copies.
The only way I could see there possibly being a case here would be if Orton designed each of the tattoos, and hired an artist on an almost freelance basis just to do the art work.
Think of how the session musicians don't own the music, compared to the band that wrote the song.
While I agree about the sleeves, I think the minute the artist accepts payment for the work done, the person receiving the tattoo now becomes the owner of the work and should be free to do as they choose with it.
Which makes me curious. If it was chosen out of a book are the drawings in the book copyrighted? And if they are and someone choosing to get a tattoo gets his or her own idea done (not in the book). Does the tattoo artist have any legalities over the sketch of another person’s idea?
To my knowledge if the designs are created by the artist its the same as a painting or a sketch - they have the copyright. If they're handed an image (like cm punk's pepsi tattoo) the artist has no ownership over it without distinct changes to the design
no way they lost over that bogus lawsuit
How? How did they lose this case was just a greedy person tryna get some money how did they (a couple of multimillion dollar companies) lose?
They only lost 3k that's basically pennies for WWE for Billionaire company the lawsuit could've been worse or cost millions instead so logically WWE won and women only has 1/5 of what she makes. A year xD
I dunno, I still have bunch of questions about the specifics but I'm not sure those details are readily available.
I did a ton of digging because I thought the same - specifically "well do they have the rights, can she go after the content from years since, etc" but he's covered up or altered a majority of her ink to the point its difficult to distinguish anymore which is why the dates the claim is for end in 2008 (when he got his sleeves updated)
@@JOBdOut I feel like the only thing she had the rights to were the sleeves that they sold
@@JOBdOut does this mean he won't be in any future games with the link?
So if she had the artwork copyrighted she should have had Randy Orton sign some kind of legal paperwork where he acknowledges the art on his arms belongs to her ... But the way that I look at it after she's had two damages on his arms once he gave her money and paid her he then owned those images... A transaction took place where he paid her for those images... Her lawsuit was bullshit.. and I'm betting the only reason she copyrighted those images anyway is so she could do what she did... If it would have been an ordinary person she would not have ever copyrighted the images...
That's why I'm more curiously following the Luchasaurus lawsuit because he actually did sign that agreement and either AEW wasn't aware of it or unaware that the agreement did not include merchandising rights.
This is what happens when Jury lacks 3 Digits in their IQ. Its like Mike Tyson had the Face Tat that person sued over him being in The Hangover. Its really not something I'd even allow a copywrite on a its not original also Death Dealer from Frank Frazetta is used by Army even altering the Shield logo. Anime or Manga characters are sold on shirts by people everyday. Maybe the sleeves seem pushing it but its just trying to be like Randy Orton. Maybe if they had CAW option to use those tats in video game without him in it that might be an issue. Even then its utter BS another reason I don't support copywrite claims or anything related. She got more money than deserved. Hopefully she lost hundreds of thousands wasting courts time etc. Very Petty :).
Def agree on the sleeve sales, but she just wanted money. Glad she didn't get much and I hope this doesn't affect the games with other tattoo artists. Definitely agree that nobody bought the game to get her tattoos. I think the NFL/NBA games don't even have them in there at all
Can someone appeal a court case they have won? The answer is yes. They can sue for more damages and the like. It's very rare that they will actually win and they can't go after the defendants for the same thing (See double jeopardy law). I'm glad she won but I whole heartedly agree with your video game take. That is unavoidable. The sleeves are one thing, but the likeness is all orton in game.
the one who needs to appeal is WWE because this sounds like a corrupt verdict to me
this is why we additional constution to our conditional rights to keep this from happening
I agree about the sleeves - like you said, it’s literally her design that was for sale. The video games and any other likeness stuff claims, are ridiculous. Randy paid for the tattoo, it’s his. He should be able to do anything, appear anywhere and not be concerned about the artist one bit. So that’s crazy. But the sleeves being sold as a product of it’s own, without her being paid, that’s really something else. That’s literally her design (apparently) and the design on it’s own, without being on Randy’s skin, doesn’t belong to Randy, or WWE, but her.
as far as I'm concerned it opens the doors for addinga additional constution that would keep corrupt people from trying to own people's body
It definitely raises the conversation though this particular case the only agreement seems to be that the person who owns ortons body isn't orton
So if you pay for a tattoo are you renting or do you own the piece that you are wearing ?
Definitely feels like an EULA license
Lol all this over some basic tribal tats that any artist can do. She really thinks she's special huh? 😂
In the legal battle of artists vs mega corporations, I'm going to side with the artist 9 times out of 10.