USAF Light Attack Aircraft Experiment - Scorpion, AT-6, A-29
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Video footage of Textron Scorpion, Beechcraft AT-6 Wolverine, and Sierra Nevada/Embraer A-29 Super Tucano aircraft participating in combat mission scenarios in the Light Attack Aircraft Experiment at Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico.
The Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance (LAAR) or Light Air Support (LAS) program has been established to enable the United States Air Force to buy a light counter-insurgency, ground attack and reconnaissance aircraft. The aircraft should be capable of finding, tracking, and attacking targets either on its own or in support of ground forces. Approximately 100 aircraft were expected to be ordered, but USAF has reduced the number of aircraft sought to 15 aircraft. The new, 15 aircraft program is focused at training pilots, not a combat mission. This program has also been called the OA-X program or the AT-X program, although the reduced scope of the LAAR program has forced the USAF to push an "OA-X" program indefinitely into the future.
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when you want to be a ww2 pilot but you weren't born this is a dream come true
Agreed. Light attacl aircraft are awesome. We need more of them. They make great recon aircraft and trainers
I've flown on the A-29 is an incredible plane. In addition the flight time and maintenance cost are very low.
Where can I fly this?
Ismael Pelegrini I want to fly that specifically... what unit in the usaf uses it?
The scorpion concept's layout makes the most sense , twin engines, twin tails, and the high wing for ground visibility. Not to mention that it should be able to get in to a target area a lot faster.
The problem with it is that the reason why the A-10 is getting retired is that it is not survivable enough in a "real" ("near peer") war and too big, awkward and expensive for the kind of asymmetrical counter-insurgency warfare it can still do.
The Scorpion is barely smaller or cheaper than the A-10 and still needs pretty long and well maintained runways to operate from. It barely offers any advantages over the system it is supposed to replace, which is why it apparently was the first one to be eliminated from the program back in the day. It didn't even get to the "operating from shitty runways"-part of the testing.
(I am aware that your comment is 5 years old and I'm not blaming you for not having the benefit of hindsight as I do now, but I think that is something that was foreseeable from the start.)
@TrangleC I didn't believe you at first when you said a10 is being retired. So I looked it up and yeah it's pretty recent news and I'm sad about it. I understand why they are doing it though. But also it's way cheaper than any fighter nowadays at only 11-15million while the f15 for example is around 100-180million to make. And b2 bomber around 2 billion and b21 if I were to guess around 3 billion just because of its technology and stealth.
@@thelethalpredator672 El tema es que no estas peleando contra aviones de 4ta o 5ta generación, es contra insurgencia en suelo y que solo los vez si vas lento a 200 km/h , o contra drones que valen 300 dólares , es mucho más barato usar aviones que gasten poco.,
En Ucrania se están usando aviones de 1940 , y el que va atrás, se sienta con un rifle de asalto a bajar drones con su rifle ..Hacerlo con un avión a reacción ya gasta 10 veces mas de combustible y mantenimiento e irás muy rápido.
As an ex Army veteran I feel nothing could replace the A-10. It was in my opinion the best aircraft for the job. I wanted to be in the Airforce when i was a kid and didnt want to fly the fast hot shot fighters. I always admired the A-10. Well I went Army and didnt fly but saw the A-10 in action. Wow. Impressive fire support. Maybe this next generation of aircrafts can meet or exceed the job. If not. I really hope the up grade the A -10 and keep it in service for years to come
I think they just need to design a aircraft from the ground up for the purpose of replacing the a 10
The issue is that in a "near peer" war against a proper enemy, something slow and low flying as the A-10 is just not viable anymore. It could only work against "insurgent" type enemies in highly asymmetrical conflicts with uncontested air space and for that job it is too big and too expensive.
Many things we consider "cool" because we grew up with posters on our bedroom walls just don't work anymore and need to go. Another example are attack helicopters. They just don't make sense anymore. Between drones, attack aircraft, precision artillery, fire and forget ATGMs that can be carried and fired by anyone and anything, cruise missiles and other standoff weapons and smart loitering ammunitions, there is nothing left a attack helicopter can do better than those other systems.
Can a common country buy an A-10? Nope, however they can afford a supertucano
Sin duda ,pero es muy caro y rápido para luchar contra drones o insurgentes ,gasta demasiado combustible y también la munición es cara, no se necesita más que calibre 7.62 o calibre 50 del A29 para eso , , y también pueden reventar un tanque con un cohete o misil,, puede lanzar cualquier misil.
The A-29 Super Tucano is such a cute plane. :)
The Eye until it drops a missile on you
Hardly! Those planes are for training purpose only.
A 29 is a proven close air support platform.
Empress Theresa cute like the coutry who make these, and these planes are for close support, not for Dogfights
Empress Theresa ...what would cute do 4 u in a hostile environment??
A-29 Super Tucano... The Miata of fighter planes.
The Beetle of fighter planes.
Are miatas the most fun cars in the world to drive ?
Cono colombiano uno de los países donde a estado en servicio el supertucanos les puedo decir que es el mejor avion podrían comprar.
Es el avión mas temido y efectivo contra la insurgencia
G SPAWN De nada ; )
En Dominicana compranos 9 con sobreprecio y complicidad de Embraer (Odebrecht Style), pero son todo un espectaculo y parecen muy robustos.
En Brasil hay una broma que Lula ha armado con Trump un esquema con Odebrecht para que todos ganen en el muro con México.
Here in Brazil there is a joke that Lula built with Trump a scheme with Odebrash for everyone to win on the wall with Mexico.
Todos ganan pero a la final quien paga? x)
El pueblo no paga sólo el dinero que los corruptos ganan, pagan también por obras innecesarias y errores cometidos a propósito para generar aditivos en los contratos, también empresas serias van a la quiebra o quedan viciadas, y por fin, cuando descubre la corrupción el proceso Es caro y obstaculiza la economía, en Petrobras robarán US $ 10.000 millones "y para ello hicieron US $ 400.000 millones de malas inversiones, y más, el país esta 3 años" parado "la espera de una solución. Disculpen la escritura es en el google traductor
Simple solutions to simple problems. Effective and efficient.
The Philippine Air Force is currently using the Super Tucano. They flew the plane from Brazil to the Philippines. 6 of them. The US Government will always support American Companies but they also ordered the Super Tucano for Special Operations.
A-29 Super Tucano for the win!
The hourly cost of A-10 is 20x greater than A-29. The A-29 performs perfectly 70% of the A-10's missions
How long have you worked for Textron ?
the other 30% will get you killed. this is a decent 'light' support plane platform and I like it for versatility. but to think of this as the A-10 replacement will be silly.
The other 30% is just 1% of all the sorties the US army has flown in the last 15-20 years, imagine how many millions the US gov will save with one of these?
to be wasted elsewere
The other 30% is basicly killing tanks with the "BRRRRT"-Cannon. The A-10 is a very good ground attacker, but it is designed for large scale wars against a regular army. Since 20 years now it is facing asymetrical warfare. Killing some terrorists with an A-10 is overkill and not very cost effective. Every salve of the vulcan cannon costs a stupid amount of tax payers money. But the Air Force relies on this weapon system because they dont have anything else.
Piston engined aircraft can do the same job with less money. They are also easy to maintain. I dont say that they should get rid of the A-10. It is an important plane for geostrategic large scale wars. But in countries like Afghanistan they are quite overpowered and non cost effective.
The A-29 Embraer is the best...
@Zach Michaelis Os A-29 serão construidos por Sierra Nevada corporation nos EUA
@Hiwegara Groove Yeah man, it is!
@Zach Michaelis The AT-6 is actually better since it's American not because it would give jobs to people, but because it can integrate with our systems far easier than the Tucano can because it's cockpit is essentially the A-10's transplanted out of it. In addition to that, the logistics for it would be easier than the Tucano because the Texan is also our initial training aircraft for pilots, therefore parts would be easier and quicker to come by.
Also, the Texan if I'm not mistaken has longer legs than the A-29. Also, most of these comments on here insisting that the A-29 is the best are from Brazilians, so it's not as if support for it isn't suffering from it's own nationalism IMO.
@@xoferwalken A29 superior by far. Structurally more robust, less maintenance costs. Also...the speed!!! I most definitely will not prefer to pilot the AT6. Ask the testers.
@@xoferwalken AT-6 have 6 wing weapon stations, A-29 4 wing weapon stations, Wolverine all the way (Tunisian Air Force)
We can operate 40 of these for the cost of 1 5th-6th generation aircraft!! 2 years later... WHY aren't we using these in low-intensity combat roles!? Why are we wasting valuable air frame time on our most important aircraft that are meant to deter China and Russia!?
I love the AT-6 and the 29 so much
Which will win the contract? The AT-6 will be a EZ transition because it's a training AC. Like the AT-37. The Super Tocano has a proven track record in combat. The unknown is the Air Scorpion. But it's a good performer in air test and concept. Flip a coin.
Proven trackrecord? Like where have they seen contact so far?
@@1anre Operational history
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano
AT-6 and A-29 for The Win !
A 29 Super Tucano the best one !
They are modern and respectable aircraft for modern air forces,
I hope the development and production
of the Textron Scorpion continue and enter the military market and that the AT-6 Wolverine is better known.
A 29 !
Very nice planes, and very reasonables too.
The value of airforce,
is determined by how much it can help,
the soldiers on the ground.
Nice work.
Super Tucano is the most suitable for those missions
O A 29 super tucano um produto robusto e versátil para a USAF
A-29 The Best
the A-29 is one awesome little aircraft!
Makes sense. Some NATO airforces have a fast jet program that costs billions to run, just to drop a Paveway iv over Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria without any opposition. A 4th or 5th generation aircraft is not used to its full potential. Why spend billions when you can do the exact same mission with these cheap light attack aircraft.
Nice i think cheapest effective machine equal or better than 4.5 th generation aircraft ... Great USA respect from India 👍👍👍
It looks like if a p51 and a a10 had a baby this would be its child
Baby is dangerous..
Thankfully retro is cool once again
I'd take the Scorpion. But, do feel it should have been designed with more stealththier lines. Plenty of places it could have implemented, without a terrible increase in production costs. Also feel the the U.S. should go with an American made aircraft. Side note: the Scorpion does have impeccable slow flight characteristics, which is a bonus.
For a light ground attacker the A29 Super Tucano is a much better option. It is cheaper and easier to maintain. The cost of 1 hour in the air is a fraction of any jet plane. And it is a combat tested airplane in many diferent scenarios from Colombia to Afheganistan. It is also used by severa Ari Forces including the RAF so you won't have problems with spare parts. And in adition when the time came to replace them it will be easier to find buyers.
I would not mind seeing these put into service
Super tucano Brasil?
flavio brizola e brasileiro o super tucano
please come to brazil
Sim, ele mesmo.
Ole S tem demência???
Ole S oxi
The A-29 has proven to be CAS capable in multiple countries arsenals, but I guess the USAF will pic some other, unproven, plane.
LolixLP A29 was once unproven
We´ll have to thank countries like Brasil for changing that and for reviving the role of light CAS. (I know the A-10 fills the same niche and is better at the tasks, but the USAF has sadly written of another A-10 Upgrade)
LolixLP Thats why the planes go through Unoroven testing to get proven which is the best.
YAS
The Air Force doesn't want light attack aircraft because then congress will cut the number of F-35s the US Air Force wants since using a multi million dollar plane to fight insurgents when you can use a million dollar easy to maintain plane would be way more useful.
Scorpion looks nice
Its a jet trainer. Guzzles more fuel, less airtime(lurk). But yup its nice, just not cost and mission effective as far as what they're going for.
A29 Super Tucano the best
I like the Super Tacano or Scorion. AT-6 looks outclassed by the Super Tacano tbh
These look awsome!
On that's regular jets is a no go. We are looking for a beater that will just keep coming and is too simple to break down, and can take off veru quickly. The a 29 is a decent middle between simplistic and powerful. Though a few a 6 would be good to have too.
Interesting... 🇺🇸Lockheed Martin logo on 🇧🇷Embraer aircraft
Because they bought it
At what minute did you see it and where on the plane? I couldn't identify
The Tucano is very special bird!
Very agile, and maneuverable.
He's not that fast (supersonic), but he's going to come from an angle close to 90 degrees, and you certainly won't see him.
lol kkkk
In addition, the electronic suite is made in the state of the art.
Colombia simple destroyed the FARC using the Tucano!
I just believe these propellers light weights would deliver it precisely where it hurts most......!!!
Finally. Why send a multimillion dollar jet where a simple prop plane will get the job done.
Those prop planes are probably multimillion, too... just not like 45+ million like most jets.
The A-29 Super Tucano has a flight hour cost at around 1000$. The A-10s almost 20.000$. The A-10 while amazing, has a lot of missions that the A-29 is well capable of doing, but cheaper. Also cheaper to repair because it's turbohelix and doesn't require a fancy, clean, airstrip. Here in Brazil we tested a lot of landing and departure on dirt roads that helped on the development, with a longer tail, reinforced landing gear, even the air entry changed a bit, our pilots also had a part, our cockpit has a better fov than the At-6 as an example. No, it is not a superiority jet fighter. It was designed to precise bombing, which we tested a lot, LAS, and light air patrol like to intercept helis and small planes such as those used for drug trafficking.
And these are light attack aircraft
@@magicaldweebintheinternet9001 Yup. Maybe after like 3 failed programs the USAF will finally buy a light attack aircraft to stop spending millions on A-10s to destroy $100 terrorist tents. A-10s are great, but for most missions they're overkill.
@@anonymousperson2110 I think the US should consider acquiring foreign Planes to beef up the military in a very sufficient way. Like purchasing M-346fa and FA50 to add it up to US arsenals that likely can only spent operational cost not higher than F15 and Raptors
Incredible plane's and amazing job guy's Awesome video too...I do greatly appreciate it too...and I enjoy watching your videos too...Thank you so much
A29 >>>~
A-29 Brasil 💪
No matter what plane you think appears better, the AT-6 is going to win. It's already used for training, so just about every USAF pilot knows how to fly it. And the infrastructure for maintenance and spare parts is already in place, with only minor adjustments needed for the modifications. Logistically speaking, it's the clear winner.
It just strange seeing people putting predictions for a program after it finished
Although I haven't graduated from keyboard aeronautical engineer school, I'm not seeing anything that appears to be as tough and resilient as the A-10?
Rick Davis A29 is the nightmare from terrorists, these are COIN planes, your coutry put these for "easy" missions, and put the A10 foi harder missions :D
Rick Davis The Super Tucano may not look like it, but it has a similar armor profile to the A-10, and the turboprop engine that it uses is also much more resilient to damage than the pure jets the A-10 uses. It also doesn't have a box full of 1000 30mm high explosive rounds ready to explode once they are hit.
They are portable funeral pyres.
Same armor profile as a A-10? Ha ha ha ha ha thank you, the best laugh I have had all day. Not to mention single engine vrs twin engine. Trying looking to what happens to gun rounds when they are hit buy gun fire,
Opps I I accidentally hit the send button before I could edit the last sentence. When I was trying to say is that tests have shown there is no cascading effect when 2 or 3 gun type rounds go off in a magazine. I would add that this aircraft doesn’t have as many redundant systems as a A-10. Conclusion = you fly the turboprop in combat and I will fly the A-10, and we will see who lives longer. Or better yet ask a real A-10 driver what he thinks.
Oh i hope i can flying tucano in the future
Love those Beechcraft AT-6s.
(BRA)AT-6 Wolverine x A-29 Super Tucano(BRA)
Aeronaves de origem brasileira criadas de empresas diferentes mais com o mesmo pai. Qual o melhor?
A-29 Super Tucano
I like the one you can start in the Hanger!
I do not see anything here that could take the hit's and bring the pilot and plane back home.
Not from proper militaries. But indigs?? Not that bad.
Embraer didn't take any chances: they got Gustav Fring to fly their plane.
Super Tucano A-29 is the best!!!!!
Super tucano💪
Upgraded p47 redesign the p47 do it can carry shit like those ground missiles
I’m joking it would be so dope if thy did that tho
No. Why did we spend 100s of millions of dollars and years deciding on a new platform, when we already have proven platforms, with new upgrades, that could have done the same job.
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A29 super tucano com certeza.
Scorpion the best choice
Grew up in SA the tucano is sweet
I miss the A 6 it’s such a cool plane
AT-6 Welcome to Thailand😘
3:55 Ordinance looked a bit heavy for that turbo prop
Does anyone know the date that the USAF will choose one of these three light attack aircraft? I hope the USAF chooses the A-29 Super Tucano, such an awesome airplane! Even my profile picture is of a A-29 Super Tucano ;-)
Super tucano best ;)
What happened to Air Tractor's AT-802L Longsword?
sometimes that all they need,pluse they are fast , turn on a dime ,and the cost!!!!!! i'm sure they have a place in the us.Military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Super tucano A-29 is evolution the mustang P-51
It's bizarre how many comments don't understand the role that these planes serve. These people would probably launch a cruise missile to open a stuck pickle jar.
No video of the OA-8 Air Tractor?
Les appareils léger d'attaque , sont des alternatives ou complément aux hélicoptères d'attaque
Bien moins coûteux.
Informative
I don't understand why these years so many light attack aircraft are appearing on the market.
I’ve always thought this. Why don’t Japan just build replicas of one of their single engine WW2 Twin pontoon float planes, like the Aichi E13 ‘Jake’, which was a three crew plane with a long greenhouse canopy, and equip it with sophisticated light weight weapons? The cost of patrolling the China Sea, Ryukyu Islands, Okinawa, North Korean sea areas would be miniature compared to what they use now and with modern communications and radar, they could call upon their F16s etc., in no time.
I am only skeptical about the payload capacity though.
The super Tucson looks like a fine aircraft but there is NO excuse to not buy American made beech craft at-6 if it fulfills the roll.
Embrear Super Tucano :)
A29
The Scorpion reminds me of an Alpha Jet, with broader hips...
At 6 have the good design,like an a29,but the at 6 have the mini body and the tucano have medium body👍
Just use a Preadtor or Reaper drone for Light Attack its already been developed.
The AT-6 still has a couple of remove before flight tags attached when taxiing out, starboard side. (1:56) As does the A-29. The seem to be gone in-flight.
they are weapins lock, i think, they remove it far from the hangar. Or maybe they are just doing some ground tests, so they don't need to remove everything.
Super Tucano pft
AT-6 seems like a farm airplane!
What happened with the Scorpion aircraft?
Has It found any buyer?
Still developing and improving,
It has interests and future buyers, but for now it does not have the green light to export.
A-29 >>>>> AT-6 >>>> Scorpion
Gabrio Ferreira Maciel não sabe nem escrever o próprio nome
Te perguntou? (insira emojis idiotas aqui)
the shit comes from above
A10>>>>>>>any you just mention
Single engine, liquid cooled for ground attack? Wasn't good for the
P-51....remember?!
I do! We lost some very good pilots doing that.
I don't feel these smaller and less capable aircraft are able to support troops in a heavy AAA environment, even 20 and 30 mm AAA
50年前有一款A-1天兵式攻擊机，活塞引擎，備弹量多，耐打耐操，在越南战區甚建功績。
Todos muito bons, baratos e apropriados para nações do mundo inteiro.
Anyone else love "ugly" aircraft?
iilikecereal if you call the A-29 "Ugly" you are wrong :3
Quando se fala em equipamento para guerra o que menos importa é a aparência, Se não o A 10 e o B2 Bomber tava na merda: pensa em avião feio da porra.
They’re manly ugly same like the A10.
The scorpion looks like its costly to operate
I hope the tucano wins it's a brazil design but made in america
Shaggy Locs and in brazil
Super Tucano Sigma.
Can we have portable propulsion systen on such aircraft??
Too bad Rutans ARES Mudfighter never got consideration.
The Scorpion needs afterburners!
The A29 Embraer is tested and proven CAS.
Look nothing beats the A10.... But I dont mind these things
Are they reconsidering the A-9 design?
A-29 is sexy !!!
AT-6 is elegant.