A Great 4 Season Tent - My Honest Opinion - Harsh Field Testing
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2023
- The Fjallraven Abisko Lite 2 - The Best One Person 4 Season Tent Review. In this video I explain why I honestly think that this is the best one person 4 season tent. It's tight for two but for one its all the space and strength most will ever need.....
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Hi Tom. Always good to see some real world reviews under actual user conditions. A lot of nice touches on this tent for sure. Strength to weight it’s up there. Also you forgot to mention it’s outer pitch design. Another huge plus point IMO. Wind in the mourne mountains is just incessant, so for this type of camping an ultralight tent is just not a year round option. I’m glad you are so pleased with this tent 👍
Hey Gary thank you for the comments... yeah you are right on the outer pitch design.... It makes the tent manageable to set up and take down in harsh conditions. I got bent poles on every single inner first pitching tent either setting up or taking down.... This tent was dropped in 45mph winds no bother at all and no where near taking any pole damage due to the outer pitch design.... I actually didn't mention it as I was trying to point out more of the unique features of the tent if that makes sense... ATB Tom
I can see you are definitely smitten on your new find, Tom - well done! I really like the dual fabric on the outer, a really nice feature. The double tie backs on the door are a practical feature as well. You can really see how they have placed a lot of attention to detail on this tent. Very nice. Thanks.
Many thanks! Barry and thank you for watching and commenting.. Too many attention to detail features to show here so more in next video s.. Missing your videos!! ATB Tom
Great to see a review that shoes some actual weather on the tent and not a backyard setup. Thanks so much for your review, really helps inform the consumer 🙏
Hi Absolutely so many back garden reviews out there that get tonnes of views too.... I do make a big effort to show the tent with some form of weather challenge.... thank toy for the feedback... best wishes Tom
Another great video. Love when you test tents out in the field. Look forward to the Akto and the Nammatj comparisons with this tent.
Hey Denis, great to hear from you and thank you for the positive feedback... Yeah it takes a lot more effort to film reviews in the field, so not too many do it... Hard to know if its worth the effort as a lot of people dont even notice... The Akto Nammatj comparison will be done in a camping ground as I am not fit enough to carry all 3 into a mountain environment ha ha... I will certainly be including filed testing vide clips that's for sure.... ATB Tom
Had mine delivered yesterday.can’t wait till the weekend thank you for the review lot of tent for the money 👍👍very happy
Hi, thank you for your feedback and watching my video...Hey great to hear you got one of these.. Yes some decent prices on these tents to be found as not everyone knows how good they are yet...... I hope that you get out camping this weekend as you will love this tent... ATB and happy camping Tom
The Trango was a solid performer. I had this same model. A real beast of a storm shelter, and very livable. The roof top window blew out of mine during a ferocious storm. That’s when the real fun began. I spent many fearful nights in that tent and it never disappointed me. I like your videos.
Hey great to hear from you and your experience of the Trango.. Mine took a battering many times but always survived.. Just too heavy now for me to carry on my own.. best wishes Tom
Thanks Tom. I can see that this tent has much more room than my Soulo. I think the weight is comparable. Very helpful presentation. I use foam ear plugs when the wind sounds are so ferocious...
Hi Michael, thank you for the comments and feedback. Always good to hear from users of similar tents... Close to 300g lighter if that means anything but possibly not quite as durable as the Soulo... I changed from Soulos mainly due to the space so enjoy more in this tent... ATB and thank you for the comments. Tom
Looks like you've found a (or the) tent that meets your preferred camping conditions Tom! May you both have a long and happy future together 😄💒
Hi Miriam, thank you for watching and your feedback... This tent is doing well for me but you know I dont like the thin fabrics and I might have something to say in my comparison videos against the Hillebergs... ATB and looking forward to your next one... Tom
Great video Tom,looks a beast of a tent.Been looking at a Rogen for summertime. 👍👍
Hi Ian, thank you for your comments and watching my video...Always good to check out other tent options.. Yes a great very strong tent for its size with great features and ventilation... The Rogen is a great tent and my friend who has a Kaitum and Jannu also has a Rogen and is very happy with it... ATB and the best of luck with your new tent purchase.. Tom
Looking forward to see how this compares to the Nammatj, Tom. I’m hovering over the buy button on a Nallo but this tent does impress. I know the hillebergs are noisy in the wind and not great with condensation. Do you really rate this above the Nammatj or is the weight saving swaying things for you. Cheers.
Brought one last week, have to say its a brilliant tent for the price, picked it up on Trekitt along with a footprint for like £600, its really stable and quality is up there with the best i would say.
Hi Paul, obviously I am very pleased to hear you comment on my channel thank you very much and I really hope that all is going well for you. This is a difficult one and while I never have had any condensation issues with Hillebergs (although 99 percent of my camping is done in windy conditions) this Abisko is better ventilated than a Nallo as the Nallo has no high venting options as far as I can see... I rate this very close to the Nammatj for high wind performance as I have had them both out in measured 50mph winds and the Abisko takes it as well due to its aerodynamic and lower back end... The 9.6mm pole at the front also helps with stability and it is lower than the Nallo which adds further stability. So it's not as durable as the Nammatj due to the extensive use of the 20d fabrics and 40d floor. Its not quite as strong or not quite the same interior space but its actually durable, strong, and spacious enough and at 1kg lighter then its hard to justify the Nammatj on 95 percent of my camps... ATB and thank you once again for your comment.... ATB Tom
Have you bought it then Paul?
To compare this tent (I have owned it, and the Abisko Lite 1) to the Nammatj doesn't really make sense. If you're going into conditions that call for the Nammatj, you want that, not this. But most people aren't. I use the Nallo because it is considerably burlier than the Abisko Lite series. It does take up more space in the pack, but it's also slightly more comfortable.
Thanks Tom. Great vid. Lots of info to consider. Just subbed too so looking forward to more content 💪
Hey Conor, thank you for watching and making the effort to comment. Yeah I should have another video out Sunday night with a comparison of this tent against two Hillebergs.... ATB and thanks once again for your feedback.... Tom
this guy is one of the few people on youtube where you can trust his opinion because of his vast wealth of knowledge. I would buy a tent simply off his recommendation which is something Id never usually do. Great video.
Hi Nathan, I really appreciate your positive feedback... I am always honest in my reviews. in my nest video I will compare 3 tents that I own so I can let fly with my honest thoughts as absolutely nothing to lose or gain by my honest opinion... ATB and a big thanks for your support... Tom
Hey Tom, another realistic review. You won't have to worry about condensation build up. Seriously, some tough relentless winds. That's what is to be experienced to evaluate strength. Interested to see the rear vestibule rolled all the way up. Maybe during the Hilleberg comparison. Fjallraven knows their materials. Not surprised on the quality. Wouldn't it be simpler to have two 10mm poles though? I currently don't have a tunnel design tent. So I'll be watching. Thanks. Hardly ever too bad to make a cup of coffee.
Hey Sam great to hear your thoughts on this one.... I will demo the door and rear roll up in my next video... Yeah two 10mm would be easier and make the rear end seriously stable... I love the larger pole diameters in 4 season tents as it also takes some pressure of the guy lines. In mountain pitches there are many times when its difficult to secure every single point of the tent and when the tents strength really depends on this it can be a bit of a pain and very time consuming at times... I love tunnel designs as the strength to weigh ratio is so good. Also the tent kind of holds its height along the roof too... ATB Tom
Great video Tom. I am looking for a 2 man tent for solo camps and been giving the Allak 2 some serious consideration. I had seen the Abisko lite 2 in action with Al from Bushman and Blue but never really considered it until now. Obviously it is a different proposition as it is not free standing like the Allak 2 but at nearly half the price and less than 2/3 the weight your video has me rethinking things. I am looking forward to you next video to see the comparison with the 2 hillebergs.
Hi Simon, great to hear from you.... Tent choice is never easy as always pros and cons... This tent is not as large or tall as the allay or as adaptable but for me the weight saving is more important... It jus depends on your priorities... Good to hear that you are looking forward to the comparison... it will definitely be an interesting one... ATB and the best of luck with your tent choice... Tom
Great review. Ive had a catastrophic tent failure on mt Kosciusko at about 2000metres. Using old tents for “nostalgic reasons. Massive storm. Had to use emergency hut. Next trip my friend had a tunnel tent similar storm nil issues. Sonexcellent reviews are critical for me 👍
Hi thank you for sharing your experience.. I only keep tents for a certain amount of time...Unseen wear to fabric will make it weaker over the years and if you keep them too long then they are beyond economic repair.. Great to hear of your experience but sorry that you learned the hard way.. best wishes and the best of luck selecting a new tent. Tom
I've just pulled the trigger on Abisko Endurance 2 (I need that extra porch space). I'm looking forward to taking it out and finally doing summit camps with the peace of mind.
Hi Papa, always great to hear from someone who uses or owns a similar tent... The endurance 2 is a great tent and will serve you very well I am sure.. I wish you happy camping for many many trips...ATB Tom
Great video and review, I'm trying to start camping and this is really helpful! Big like 253 :)
Glad it was helpful! If you have any questions just message me on Instagram.. ATB Tom
Wow, thanks to a great video!! I really like that you use a anemometer...cause there are soo many claming that they are in strong winds/hurricane ect ect but they dont have anything to messaure it with! I have used that tent for Fjällräven Classic in Sweden(worked as a guide), great for one person but I bought the bigger Abisko Endurance 3 when we(my, girlfriend and dogs) hikes in the montains. Hope that you will have a chanse to try that one as well, I prefer that over the Nammatj 3GT. Cheers!
Hey Anders great to hear from you and your thoughts on different tents.. Yeah I like to keep my videos real so measuring wind speed properly is one of my favourite pastime s when camping....I love the specification of Fjallraven tents but had a problem with fabric damage on this one and the customer service was poor too so I am afraid no more Fjallraven for me.. I do wish you the very very best with yours and thank you for sharing your positive thoughts on the brand. Sweden is awesome but only been there Once.. Hey happy camping . Tom
Great informative video. Thank you.
Hey thank you for the comment. best wishes Tom
Great vid, nice sized tent for 2kg, looking forward to the Hilleberg comparisons.
Hi, thank you for watching and your feedback...Yeah I am really looking forward to filming the comparisons next week so should be on RUclips Sunday week at the latest... Lots to consider between the two brands... ATB Tom
Hello Tom, I’m looking forward to your comparison of the Abisko Lite 2 to the Nammatj. We are indeed fortunate having a strong wind camping junkie in yourself looking at how these 4 season tents perform under adverse conditions. Might we see you do a Greenland camping excursion with katabatic winds present? That would be something!
Hi, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.... I think that it is high winds that are the greatest challenge on a tent so that's why I do my best to demonstrate high wind performance... yeah I would love to go to Greenland but its not on the cards just now.... ATB and thank you for your comments once again... Tom
Been using mine on the beacons way and love the design. Thinking of selling my hilleberg soulo for the Abisko light one man because I’m so impressed with the Abisko light 2.
Hey Andrew, great to hear your thoughts.... I am in a similar situation with my Hilleberg Akto and Nammatj 2.. One or maybe even both will have to be sold as I am so happy with the Abisko Lite 2. It has so much more room than the Akto for a small weight penalty and nearly as strong as the Nammatj at a kilo lighter...Thank you once again for your input as a Hilleberg and Fjallraven user and owner.. Tom
Thanks for this video, just hit the purchase button. Cannot wait to get out.
Hey Andy, good to hear... This tent is very strong for its weight and size.. It's packed full of features too.. I just had a little fabric problem with mine so maybe I was unlucky.. All the very best wishes with the new tent... Tom
Thanks for this interesting review. I own what I believe to be the predecessor of this tent: the Abisko Lightweight (2p version tent). Seeing as they don't offer any information on their site anymore and even deleted their old video's about care for this tent from their official RUclips Page, I hope maybe you can answer a question I've been having. Especially after seeing the performance in these kind of windspeeds.
I've owned the tent for around 9 years, but due to circumstances and going off to university, i've only used it lightly going hiking for 6 weekends in 9 years. (I bought it as a Boy Scout, thinking i'd invest in a good tent that'll last me a lifetime). I was always lucky with the weather and never experienced a storm but... I had the tent poles break on me during a windstill and dry night. I couldn't believe my tent being down when I woke up.
Do you have any experience on the DAC featherlite NSL poles being easy to break?
I hoped to take it to a summer trip to Iceland this summer so I set my tent up againto test if it was waterproof, and during the same night, where it was lightly drizzling, but without wind. My replacement pole I bought (which was literally still in the package... before I used it) also broke during the night... Now my wife is calling me crazy I payed 800 euro's for a tent (+ 200 euros for a replacement pole set) claiming that with the light camping we do, we'd better be off buying a whole new decathlon tent every year and coming out still cheaper. And I'm starting to believe her and lose faith in the Fjällräven brand...
Hello I am sorry to hear of your experience.. Personally I have had no issues with DAC poles over many years and many manufactures use them.. But my friend who is very experienced broke one in his Hilleberg Kaitum under no wind and we have never worked out how it happened... I think you have just been very unlucky and maybe landed on a bad batch... However they all are fragile especially if not fully inserted or the separate slightly when the tent is pitched... best wishes Tom
I agree! Fjällräven tents are SO AMAZING! I've have mine in some very strong winds +60mph and still ok... :) Hilleberg and Fjällräven are the best on the market. :)
Totally agree! thank you for watching and sharing your feedback.. It is very important for my channel to hear from other users and owners of the tent s that I am testing.. Two great brands with a lot in common but a few differences too... I have a comparison video up today at 4 which I hope you will enjoy.. Thank you for your comments and feedback.. ATB Tom
Hi Tom, I really wanted you to say in the title, 'Good, but not as good as the Hilleberg'🤣 but there is no doubt that is a solid tent and I can certainly see the appeal. I really enjoy your comparison videos, so I'll be looking forward to the next one against the Hillys for sure. And I hope by then you'll have changed your mind😉
Hi, great to hear from you as you have supported my channel and videos for some time now.... The review of the Hillys against the Abisko will be a great one as it's a really tough one for me. I own all of the tents so I can let fire with my honest thoughts and I have many many thoughts and considerations.... ATB Tom
I hope to be purchase one in a few weeks time, I do own the abisko endurance 2, considering the size of it the weight is only 2.5kg.
Hi Martin, thank you for your comments and watching my video...Great to hear from someone who owns a very similar tent.. Much more room inside though for the 500g as you say. ATB Tom
I just bought and used the Allak 2p. I did a ton of research and landed on it. I wish it wasn’t 6-7 pounds but I used it over 4 days with winds up to 40 mph and it held up great. I think it has 12 guy lines but I really had a ton of room and could even use the vestibules if needed. I might post a video for it after my next hike. Too expensive for most people at $11-1200 but a real solid tent
Hey Soggy than you for sharing your experience of the Hilleberg Allak... its a great tent and offers fabulous versatility with its inner layout and vestibule options... Much more room in it than this tent but 1kg heavier.... ATB and happy camping. Tom
Great video tom as usual and in depth on the minor things , gonna invest in this tent and possible get mesh inner have you reviewed any mesh inners as i think this would be a great asset i would assume it makes it a little more 3 season
Hey Neil, thank you for the comment.. The inner on this is 15d so very light and breathable.. Ventilation is also very good. Mesh inners are usually no lighter than the solid ones and even in summer here in Ireland it's always windy so a mesh inner is too drafty for me... It's also a small audience that would be interested in a review of one so not on my to do list.. best wishes
Great, Tom! Fjallraven really designed this ‘intelligently”. Small things make a difference - two door tie-backs 👌
Hey Shamus always great to hear from you and thank you for watching and your feedback... Yes the attention to detail on this tent is one of its greatest attributes especially when it has many other qualities too... ATB Tom
Hi Tom, thanks for this review, you gave me a good impression of the Abisko light 2. A question: are you familiar with the brands Tatonka and Nordisk ? They have similar (at least "looking" for me) tents. Tatonka arctis 2.235, this tent has a longer innertent (223,5 cm) and Nordisk has the Halland 2 LW. They are also few centimeters higher (5 approx) than Abisko.
Hi thank you for your comments.. yes I have heard of both brands. Nordisk more popular here in the UK.. I appreciate you bring this to my attention and will look in more detail at the Tatonkas... best wishes Tom
loving this :)
Great to hear... ATB Tom
Thanks for your thorough review Tom. For lightweight summer I just got thr HB Anaris (to complement my Allak 2). Made me think in terms of optimal tent *cominations*. What would your favorite combo be?
Hi R W, good to hear from you.... Thats a tough one... Like you I actually like trekking pole tents so I have a little Lanshan 2 pro which I love.. Maybe I will update that if I can find the right DCF one... Then for a normal tent if that's the right word I would probably choose a Blue one of the Abisko s. Sitting at 2 KG its is nice and light and strong enough for 95 percent of the camping I do. Fed up a bit getting hammered by the winds on my last 3 outings and getting no sleep. I think I'll take the Lanshan out 20 mins from the car and cook my self a steak.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks for your reply Tom. Looking forward to your next vids
Such a nice tent. Really is light and strong enough to use all seasons. Super versitile and I quite like the compact sleeping area, as you say; significant for one.
Quite expensive, but it's a quality versitile piece of kit. Plus, tents are just expensive nowadays.
Rarely do I see tents on RUclips where I think they would be fit for up here on the hills in the Scottish Highlands, but this is legit.
Edit - I take back what I said about cost, £460 online just now. That's not bad at all.
Hi Mike, good to hear from you as a geodesic tent user... I know you love the wind tests and it being measures and true.......... You are right all tents are expensive these days but some bargains to be had on this one I think mainly because its building its reputation as opposed to already having one.... I got this one for £450 new on eBay so when I sell my Ako I'll have a decent amount of cash in my pocket and a tent that I prefer.... ATB and thank you for dropping the comment. I hope you are getting out camping too... Do you still have the Vango MTN and Quasar's?? ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I think some people would be surprised at just how robust a tent needs to be to withstand wind gusts of 30mph, and what that actually looks and feels like at night from the inside of the tent. Kudos for you doing it solo.
Indeed, still have the MTN2 and just bought a 2nd set of poles, as who knows when they will stop making them and I think the fabric will outlast the poles, hence purshase. The Quasar is my friend/hiking partner, and he has just upgraded to the new one with the 9.5mm (I think?) poles. I use a Hexpeak v4a for the milder weather. Very robust and semi-light.. I was immensely impressed.
Anyway, I could talk tents and gear all night. Look forward to the next one, Tom 👍
@@KramF10 hey Mike thank you for the comeback.... Great idea on a second set of poles as when you find something you like best to make the best of it before it possibly changes to something different..Vango chop and change their tents a fair bit too.... ATB Tom
Another great review Tom. Thanks. I don't think you could use it in summer though. Lack of mesh means it would get too hot.
Opens right out in summer, is a really good all year round tent
Plenty of mesh and the inner door are kind with mesh which can be zipped up with the liner to make it warmer in winter.. plenty of mesh…
Hi Madcat, thank you for your comments and watching my video, and supporting the channel over the years... I did not demonstrate, it but mentioned in the video that you can roll up the back fly and front for ventilation if it's not raining. You have a few other replies here too which is great. The front door also has a mesh option and there is a mesh section at the rear inner of the tent which is permanently open.... It is a four season tent so ventilation is outstanding regarding what the tent is designed for.... ATB Tom
Hi, thank you for your comments and answering this question... Great to hear someone else's perspective which really helps... ATB Tom
Hi Phil, thank you for your comments and your knowledge contribution here... ATB Tom
Pretty spot on review Tom Ive had an Abisko Lite2 for a few months now Im getting too old to lug up my other tents up mountains. Got this last year due to its weight and the 4 season tag. Up to now only one of my trips was in rough weather 35-40mph it stood up well. I am still reserved how good this tunnel tent is as all my other tents are heavy geodesic which Ive used for many years. Up to now Ive been pleasantly surprised. Tom what are your thoughts of double polling this tent ?
Hi Brian, thank you for your feedback and watching my video...I always love to hear from other owners of the tent that I am reviewing.. I bought this one for the same reasons as you ha ha.. Double Polling... Flip that's a subject...... Big plusses and minuses..Adds massive stability and reduces the dependancy of guy lines which is nice. I actually fancy a blue one of these tents in addition to this one as I can cycle the use of the tents and also have the option of double polling. It does however add about 500g and this is a lightweight tent with super light fabrics so if you are regularly needing to double pole it then its nor going to be as durable... The single pole option will handle 60mph winds I am sure so that's pretty good. I have a video on my Nammatj 2 double poled at the rear and it makes some difference but then that's a tent designed for more durability.... Hope this helps. I could write more but I have a serious number of comments to get back to on this video.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Thankyou for the reply. Im away for a few days in March so hopefully it will get some (single pole ) use.
Cheers Tom a good test. 👍
Hi Marty, you're still getting through many of my videos so thank you for watching and taking the time to comment I really appreciate it and the positive feedback. GREAT that you are enjoying my content.... ATB Tom
Thanks for this video. I’ve been watching your channel for a few weeks now as I’m researching tents and I find you to be really honest. I’m in the Scottish Borders, so wind and rain protection are high on my list. Would you say this or the Soulo BL is a stronger tent? I think the Soulo, but this one seems to have better ventilation. Cheers.
Hi Andrew, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Soulo BL definitely stronger and more durable. Ventilation and space great here on the Abisko and it's strong. My issue with it though is in long term durability if exposed to harsh weather on a regular basis... I have another video out Sunday where I will discuss this. ATB Tom
Interesting review. Is the flysheet strong enough for mountain use then? 20 denier seems quite lightweight.
Hi Michael, that's a great question... Borderline .... Its 40d in all the stress areas which is smart but 20d is very thin on all the rest.. If it was 20d all over then I would say no but with the smart reinforcement then its heading in the right direction. Still need to be super careful with accidental damage and long term durability if continually used in harsh conditions.. The inner too is 15d which you need to watch, and the floor 40 so I use a footprint. At least the fly 20d is silicone coated on both sides so strong but still lacks abrasion resistance if that happens... I will mention this in my next video as the tent had a tiny amount of damage to part of the 20d fabric beside the pole slieve... ATB Tom
Brillant review
Hey thank you for the comment... Very much appreciated.... best wishes Tom.
I have the Abisko Light 3. Really great tent. Only weighs 200grams more and you get two entrances instead of one. Perfect for 2 people.
Yeah Tor this is a great point as many of the 3 persons tunnel tents are only a tiny amount heavier for decent interior space gain. The extra entrance is an added bonus. I appreciate you sharing this information as very valid points and always great to hear from users of the same or similar tents... ATB Tom
Hello Tom! Thank you for your videos, you're doing a great job.
I've got a question, don't you think it can be a problem in temperatures below freezing, that the mesh vent window of the Abisko inner tent can not be closed?
It seems to me in low temperatures, under the wind, it could be more preferable to have less mesh there, or to close it like in Hilleberg tents.
Hi thank you for watching and commenting. This night the temp was close to freezing and I have been out in windy conditions at minus 6 celsius... No worries at all as you can completely seal the outer vent and this inner vent is quite high. The thinner 15d fabric though is just not as wind proof as the Hilleberg 30d inner fabric. So far this has not been a problem but I recently noticed in the Akto I felt the inner was less air permeable.. The thin inner fabric helps ventilation but the thicker Hilleberg fabric favours 4 season conditions... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thank you for your reply!
Have you ever looked into the Slingfin tent range? I’m based in Scotland and I find their range to be amazing strength to weight ratio wise!
Hi Jordan, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. YES many times and I love some of their design features such as the web truss system. Slingfin are a bit of a mixed bag though as the web truss is complicated and some of the fabrics used are far too thin to have the durability. For example the Wind saber has a 20d ground sheet which is actually half the thickness of the one on the Fjallraven here and even this is too thin IMO. Lightweight sells tents and really puts me off due to the trade off in long term durability of exposed even fairly frequently to hard conditions. This tent here as now taken some damage after only 5 or 6 camps and I will discuss this in my next video... ATB Tom
Thanks for that... I have always been put of by the low max head height room... but maybe thats not such an issue???
Hi Dave, I suppose it depends a fair bit on your height. I am more than happy with the height of this tent as the low height helps so much with wind stability and this is very important to me... The height also doesn't drop off too quickly which is good. In the Hilleberg Akto for example which is technically higher the height drops immediately from the centre pole and I find sitting up and getting organised much more of an issue... Tom
In a video by bushman and blue this tent got flooded when it was wet outside, so if love to hear how it performs in wet conditions as well. Obviously the comparison to the nammatj would be super interesting as well. Fjällräven also has a handful of other tents that closely resemble Hilleberg designs, so id love to hear where and how they differ.
Hi Tim, I have had this tent out in serious rain... It's the video which has nearly 60k views. You dont really appreciate the rain in. the video as I had to edit out background noise in order for you to hear my voice... The tent performed amazing in this rain and serious wind with no dampness coming through. In Bushman's video.... where he camped actually turned into a small river and the high winds blew the fly against the inner bath tub blowing it flat. This allowed the water to come in over the top of the tub and into the tent. IMO any tent would have let in water under these circumstances. Vestibule into the wind may have helped if the flow of water wasn't too fast that it was coming over the tub height if you know what I mean.... ATB Tom
I thought I seen that happen in an Abisco lite 1?
Or was that another he camped in a hollow which turned into a stream when it bucketed down?
Good informative videos Tom in real world conditions. Enjoy warching your videos. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Ps.. been trying to find where yiu invested in a new sleep mat.. comfortable with the raised sides.
Think i'm gonna get it as fed up migrating off the sides of mine of a nightime.
I've a Nammatj 2 (along with a few others) seriously thinking of the abisco 2, if only for the weight saving.
The slope in roof is absolutely fine for a wee guy like me as well tbh. ✅️
@@thomasomoore9252 The sleeping mat is the Big Agnes Rapids SL regular wide. I got it from Ultralight Outdoor Gear... Great to hear you have a Nammatj. I find it hard to use mine at the moment due to the extra kg over the Abisko. the Nammatj is defiantely more durable but the Abisko durable enough.... ATB Tom
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Only thing that I've read and seen is that the lower bottom end gets wet when wind and rain pushes the fly against the inner.
Have you had this yet?
Thinking of any remedial action to solve this before I decide and hit the purchase button.. ?
Also seems the price is going up.. :/ after a lot of decent reviews.
Perfect size for 5'5" me though.. atb Tom.
@@thomasomoore9252 Hi Thomas Bushman used this tent in conditions that most won't.. I own this tent so I can see physically what happened.. He had so much water on the ground that it was above the tub floor.. Not a fault of the tent.. Vestibule into the wind may have helped... I will try to remember to show this to some extent in my next video... ATB Tom
at the of the day tom we want tent to be comfortable for setting up in any weather, for us to be safe in weather which is no seen in city , we do admire these cloud formations in mountains, clouds on eye level, true darkness, i can only imagine what people from movies "Meru" , or "the alpinist" (Canadian guy) what they seen , gosh they must seen gods art in extreme,
i personally think Tom that msrs "advance pro" tent system is the future for best tents , hubed poles go into sleeves other half is clipped, i wish to see double skin models like that with stronger poles or even triple hubed poles, with some wide massive clips for easiness. even not existing model with double poles hubed like on msr advance model in front, and abiskos small tunnel pole at the end makes sense for tent design, you could make it possible to even double pole whole thing.
Hi Karl, yeah tent design needs to advance a lot more in the text 10 years than it has in the past 10... I do like a combination of pole slieves and clips I must admit.. ATB Tom
I wonder of the tent can support a great amount of snow as there are only 2 poles. I see a weak point on the roof between the 2 poles ? My winter tent has 6 poles ( Marmot Thor 2 ) , so thats why I was asking . I am from Canada where we get good snowstorm . Thanks for the review, well done
Hi Bon, just looked up the weight of the Thor.... 4.7KG.... So there must be a price to pay on a lighter tent... it's really only damp snow that causes the problem as dry snow blows off and doesn't settle as much on the roof.... Hillleberg and Fjallraven, two Swedish tent manufactures rely on tunnel tents for their winter use... This tent can be double poled which takes the weight to 2.5kg and both ends are then so strong that they will support serious weight in the roof between the poles.. I saw a video from Eden Adventures I think, where wet snow destroyed a North Face Ve25... so sometimes you just have to remember to manage conditions before they become a problem...great to hear this comment so thank you... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 well the 2 person tent is a little lighter , 3.8 kg , but I do use a pulk in winter . Thanks for your input 🙂 I forgot to mention this tent can be set with only the fly and ground sheet
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Hi Tom super video - i have Neve been in that kind of wind with my Abisko Shape 3 - it handled it very good. What do you think of the hight of inner tent and what about condensation .
Hi Hans, great to hear from you and I hope you enjoyed the video.... The inner height is just ok and I can accept it as manageable because the low height of the tent really help with the wind stability and this is very important to me. Every single time I have taken the tent out it has been very windy so zero issues with condensation.... Look forward to you making more videos and I hope you have some on the way.... ATB Tom
I have got a puppy... its stalling my video projekt with the Abisko tent ha ha. I have had some bad experiences with tent regarding condensation and also the hight of the inner tent - in the foot end the fabric is making my quilt vet and I have had frozen condensation creating snowfall ha ha. I was surprised to see how well it preformed in your storm video - looking forward to see it up against a Hilleiberg tent. I have kept the tent because I haven't found a better winter tent - maybe you are right about it is a great tent for windy and cold conditions - relativ low weight 😊🏕
Hi Tom... this weekend I plan for finishing my recordings, about the Abisko Shape 3 - unfortunately the weather forecast is kind of boring ha ha - I have request; could I use some of your footage from this video (in the storm) it would be great benefit for my video, showing that it handle the wind so well. I will of course promote your channel and credit you for letting me use your footage.
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Hey Hans great to hear you are finishing your video.. Absolutely of course you can use footage from any of my videos.. Really looking forward to your video.. ATB with the edit.. Tom 😬😬
That's a lot of tent for the money. I think that all adds up to a better value tent than the soulo or akto. Food for thought Tom 🤔
Hi Joe, I hope you are well.... Yes it has a serious amount of features and attention to detail... Quality materials and construction too. Its suiting me more at the moment due to its light weight, space and strength in high winds... We will see how it does when I match it up to my Nammatj and Akto.... ATB and good to hear from you once again... Tom
i keep hearing you saying i had 3 hours of sleep or something, I'm telling you i slept well with goretex army hat with massive double ear flaps in 70 + km h winds, i wish there would be models like that for simple mountaineering hats, main thing is to shut out brain from scary noises in the tent, tent shaking etc on the body level doesn't bother the body, but the brain it does , it makes us scared that we might die basically, bulky goretex hat which blocks hearing really changes things, that army hat is a bit annoying because in high wind that front rain roof is picking up the wind , i think it can be cut, and remade if there's no models available commercially
Hi Karl thanks for the comments and feedback.. To be honest I personally prefer to be 100 percent aware of my surroundings just incase something happens that if dealt with quickly can minimize the damage.. Just a personal thing as in the past I have awakened hearing something not right and found 2 pegs had popped. I sorted it quickly before any tent damage.. Just my way and preference.. ATB and appreciate your comments.. Tom
I'd just go for the tried and tested nammatj 2 for 4 season solo camping. It doesn't need reenforcement as so strong.
Hey yes definitely stronger and more spacious and durable than this... best wishes once again Tom
I like the abisko lite 2.
There are only 3 things I don't like:
1. I would like the inner tent door better if the zip went all the way around.
2. The ventilation mesh cannot be opened.
3. The inner hight, 5cm more would be good.
But it is more stable than the Nallo 2, which I also like to use.
Here the 10 cm more interior height is great.
Totally agree on the zip issue, I prefer the Hilleberg design where you can get the door right out of the way... yeah the mesh on the fly could benefit from being able to open it though for me so far I have got enough air blowing through it.... Inner height.. I am prepared to take the hit on that one due to the extra stability it offers and stability is seriously important to me... Thank you for your opinion on the Nallo, great to hear the pros and cons... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 But I totally agree with you, the abisko lite 2 is a great tent with a good weight at a reasonable price.
Thank you for your great videos.
Does the foot of your sleeping bag touch the inner? That's what put me off the Anjan 2 and Nammatj 2
Hi, thank you for your comments and watching my video...yes absolutely and much the same in the Nammatj 2. The Nammatj 3 is slightly better I think as it is higher which reduces the angle of the slope at the rear, and only 200g heavier... Consider a Kaitum if you need the length. Here however in the Abisko, the separation of the inner and outer at this point of the tent is really good (Better than Nammatj) so I have had no issues with this at all regarding dampness or condensation. But as you can see I nearly always camp in very windy conditions.... ATB Tom
I have been looking at the abisko shape but not sure weather to go for the 2 or 3 , I will probably mostly use it alone but would be too occasionally to use with my wife , the cabin size is the same as yours , do you think the 2 is really to small for 2 people?
Hi Phil yes I really do think its to small for two... The 3 person models are only about 250g heavier so very little extra weight but more space and height... Its a tough choice as my wife too wants to come camping but that's only a couple of times a year so in some respects then not worth getting the 3 person and the two person is fab for one.... I hope this helps. ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 hi , thanks for your reply , I really like your videos
I own this, I've my smaller misses coming with me, what ya reckon? Could you fit two wide sleeping mats in?
Hi Frosty, Doubt it its tight for two. I will discuss internal volume in more detail in my next video.... Good luck on your trip... ATB Tom
Hi Tom, sorry to bother you but would you recommend this one for someone who is 6ft 3” tall? Weight and overall size look great for bike packing…
Hey no bother at all.. Tight enough length wise mainly due to the sloping rear and interior height not great to be honest... Have a look at the Tarp Tent Scarp 1 if you haven't already. Although it's 218cm long the vertical ends make a massive difference to the real world length..height is pretty good too, but pack size is larger than most due to these vertical rods at the ends.. The 3 person version of the Abisko here will be better and probably only 200g more .. The fact that's its a little higher also reduces the slope on the rear inner wall.. I hope that this helps.. best wishes Tom
PS nice to see that I am on your subs list thank you... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Many thanks Tom, as always extremely helpful. Keep up the great work.
With the thinner fabric. Is the tent holding up well?
Thats a tough one. The tent stood up well but afterwards I noticed some small fabric damage on the thinner fabric near the front pole. I contacted Fjallraven about this and they were not interested. They offered a 3rd party to repair or to send me a repair kit to do it myself. Tent now sold long ago.. Thank you for your comments and I hope that this answers your question... All the very best wishes Tom
If you could only have one, either the Abisko or the Jannu, which would it be?
I have sold the Abisko due to poor durability and customer follow up from Fjalraven.. So Jannu for me.. Best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks for the reply, I'm going to get a Jannu.
Loving the videos btw, especially the high wind tests! Keep up the good work 👍
Tom, did you hear back from Fjällräven about the issue you had?
No word at all for 6 days despite sending my email to two Fjallraven contacts.Then sent a follow up email and they got back the next day.. Offer Ed a free repair kit or ti send to a 3rd party for repair.. No mention of warranty or courtesy to say sorry for the issue and the length of time it took to respond.. I contacted them again saying what I would have expected but the matter was now closer.. Again no response. Obviously not interested so they are binned as a brand for me... Tom
O dear, that's very disappointing and such a good product overall. Thanks Tom for the response 👍
Does this tent suffer from condensation problems in summer months.
Never really used it in the Summer, but it's very well vented for a 4 season tent.. Best wishes Tom
If im forecasting high winds on a climb or camp i always bring earplugs,, can sleep peacefully all night. Dont do this if you are somewhere prone to massive avalanches like everest base camp.
Hi Scott, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Earplugs are just not my thing as I like to be aware of my surroundings even if no risk of avalanches...I know I should adapt and get them so maybe some day... ATB Tom
Ay up.
Fjallraven has always been better than the likes of Hilliberg in my honest opinion.
Hi, thank you for your feedback and watching my video...Well that's a good one and I own both brands. I have been very impressed with this tent and surprised at the quality and attention to detail of which I could only show a small part in this video... Next video I will pitch the two brands against each other and I own all of the tents so I dont have to be nice regarding what I say.. ATB Tom
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I'm surprised that you were surprised at the quality of the tent, it is Fjallraven after all, a company well known for making top quality products and clothing. I look forward to your honest comparison.
@@Adventures_with_Sog sorry about my choice of words... It was more, surprised at the combination of many factors not just the quality ..
what s your opinion on one man version?
Definitely a great tent IMO but haven't used one.. I had a problem with the fabric on this tent so not sure if that was a one off or an overall weakness due to it being very thin... Hope that helps.Best wishes Tom
I have the same concerns . If I m not wrong I saw somewhere that thin silnilon is actually stronger than thick pu polyester. Silnilon does stretch and honestly feels a bit scary.i totally agree with u. However if you look at abisko dome tent that got 3 thicker poles than abisko they still use same 20d triple rip stop nylon.. interesting..
Btw what did fjallraven reply on that issue?