The Valknut is a "Lie"

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июн 2017
  • A video about the term "Valknut" and how it has been misused, applying it to the wrong symbol. A possible name to the symbol in question is a matter of discussion brought to light by our new studies. I hope you enjoy it friends :D --- Aside from the English subtitles, this video also has subtitles in Portuguese, Spanish (American-latin), French and Italian. My thanks to all the contributors.
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Комментарии • 625

  • @ArithHärger
    @ArithHärger  5 лет назад +51

    May I also recommend you this video? : ruclips.net/video/bLAzWtAsuZ0/видео.html&t - Viking Religious Symbols, origins and meanings. Enjoy :D

    • @joerobinson6352
      @joerobinson6352 5 лет назад +4

      The Valknut is a symbol from our forebears to remain us to keep our race pure! Watch "Thulean Perspective" to learn more.

    • @stationplaza4631
      @stationplaza4631 5 лет назад

      Cute! :-)

    • @lesliesauceman8093
      @lesliesauceman8093 5 лет назад

      That video was funny. Good on you!

    • @thenewyorkredneck4735
      @thenewyorkredneck4735 4 года назад

      Funny how you mention money and others in the beginning.
      How is that mass immigration being funded?
      How many children do you have?
      Exactly
      #cucking101

    • @garytucker8696
      @garytucker8696 3 года назад

      I think it represents Hekate shes depicted riding a wolf on standing stones with wolf Dacia, Sarmation knights banner Thrace wolf, symbol above.

  • @user-he8lq8ny3v
    @user-he8lq8ny3v 5 лет назад +201

    i believe this symbol is older and more complex as you state, and that it has to do with the reincarnation beliefs of europeans. It means life-death-rebirth. The continuing cycle of life, and of our people.

    • @nuckingfuts3204
      @nuckingfuts3204 5 лет назад +4

      Except you seem to be mistaking Hinduism for Indo-European beliefs. Only 10% of Hindu is inspired by Indo-European culture, and that came from the Aryan migration, they are not related to Europeans the way that Iranians are. So now, you are simply mistaken, if you want to be a Hindu go be one, but don't talk shit.

    • @ImNotJoshPotter
      @ImNotJoshPotter 5 лет назад +33

      @@nuckingfuts3204 I'm not a fan of hindo paganism either but reincarnation is a native European belief as well.
      Have you *not* been reading the poem of Odin hanging from Yggdrasil as his rebirth?

    • @nuckingfuts3204
      @nuckingfuts3204 5 лет назад +8

      @@ImNotJoshPotter Maybe this misinterpretation is because you don't actually do magic. All magical systems have a certain stage where the ego is tested.
      Sometimes this is called the Dark night of the soul, sometimes this is called the crossing of the Abyss. This is an extremely difficult part of magic, and the most advanced level of high magic. High magic is any magic to do with spiritual ascension, low magic is anything to do with the physical world.
      In a right-hand path paradigm the ego is evil, and is destroyed upon this journey. On the left-hand path, which I walk, the ego is essential, but it needs to be sharpened, forged into a true will, not hindered by self-deception.
      I refer to this magical concept because Odin was not some warrior god, he like me was a magician and runemaster. He himself had a trickster nature, and in mythology the way that he seized leadership of the Aesir from Tyr was via deception and cunning, not combat.
      In other pantheons there are similar instances of gods undertaking this journey to become even more powerful. Egyptian god Set and the serpent Apep is one such example.

    • @jknott1509
      @jknott1509 5 лет назад +6

      @@nuckingfuts3204 I dont consider my self left hand path. But I see the ego as a tool. As long as you live you are stuck with it.

    • @nuckingfuts3204
      @nuckingfuts3204 5 лет назад

      @@wolfpaw4699 So you don't think I can ruin your life if you send me your real name and picture? Why not try it, then a year from now we can have this same discussion? Also, why don't you do the same to people from any other religion who practice magic? You can go to Santeros, Brujas, you name it.

  • @michaelhansen2818
    @michaelhansen2818 5 лет назад +154

    I've been told that the "valknut" also represents the nine worlds of Yggdrasil.

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  5 лет назад +90

      Yes, in a more exoteric approach and also the parts of the self and the 3 triads (Voden, Vile, Ve ; Urd, Verdandi, Skuld ; Hel, Jörmungandr, Fenrir)

    • @michaelhansen2818
      @michaelhansen2818 5 лет назад +16

      @@ArithHärger thank you for that insight

    • @sarahhess464
      @sarahhess464 5 лет назад +10

      Each point representing a world.

    • @DrFrankenskippy
      @DrFrankenskippy 5 лет назад +4

      correct ... see my comment above (trinity of being and the nine worlds in combination. the knot representing 'full attainment / source awareness and enlightened vision)'. The seemingly impossible (when viewed via the sensory limitations alongside reason+logic) yet intrinsically plausible when viewed from (non dual) source awareness.

    • @lulou14MerMa
      @lulou14MerMa 5 лет назад +5

      When I had the tattoo done I was under the impression that it meant a connection between the three worlds -realms of the past present future and the lower higher and middle worlds. Ie combining the after life, present life and past life of all, our ancestors lives and so forth? I had never heard of knot of the slain until someone said I should never have had the tattoo as I was ignorant of its origins because it meant I was sacrificing myself in war? So anyway I have never felt that. I have always felt it was far more than that and a much more esoteric symbol. I felt that this symbol is not a negative symbol but has much deeper meaning so I agree with your assessment.

  • @HellgradeBallin
    @HellgradeBallin 5 лет назад +144

    From my knowledge, the Valknut consists of two words - Val and Knut, translated to Knot of the Slain, i.e. the symbol of Einherjer, or those dedicated to be Slain to enter Valhall (Hall of the Slain). Those marked with the Valknut dedicate themselves to a worthy death in struggle, in order to be chosen and "adopted" by Odin. It is, in a way a symbol of self sacrifice, for a greater version of self - an immortal, chosen, son of a god. Ascension is the root of the cult of Odin. Progress and sacrifice of self, for self, through struggle.

    • @sflaningam7680
      @sflaningam7680 5 лет назад +26

      Yeah, it didn't explicitly require dying in battle, though that was a must for Valhalla, so much as a life of attaining glory, knowledge, or anything in the awesome category using only hard work and one's wits, the way the All-Father achieved his mountain of accomplishments. I see the Valknut as a pact with Odin to live to gain entry into one of the Norse heavens by approaching life the way he does, whether it's on the battlefield or pursuing wisdom.

    • @valeriy8502
      @valeriy8502 3 года назад +11

      @@sflaningam7680 I like that very much. Self sacrifice occurs every day when we are striving to high standards and disciplining ourselves. I see the sacrifice on the tree as an ego death. The individual must do the work themselves to learn and be worthy of the knowledge, and of course to share it. There are no shortcuts by sacrificing something of material value, and no one else can do it for you.
      It could be said it takes a heart of stone to stay steady and endure such a path? Maybe a stretch, personal interpretation. Just trying to tie the associations together as they both seem to exist in texts and artifacts.

    • @valeriy8502
      @valeriy8502 3 года назад

      @Ismo Meinander Exactly

    • @rogerironhide4220
      @rogerironhide4220 3 года назад +4

      This is partly correct, as I personally believe there's more to the Valknut which has been lost or has yet to be realized...... In any case, it's sacred & deep

    • @HellgradeBallin
      @HellgradeBallin 3 года назад +1

      @@rogerironhide4220 Of course...we can at best guess at the meaning. Maybe even give it our own. However, I still maintain that entering Valhall/Folkvangr requires death in battle. There are plenty of other places for people who found their end another way.

  • @tkimball87
    @tkimball87 5 лет назад +4

    I love how educated you are on this topic and that you seem to be so willing and open to listen to other peoples viewpoints. I think I might be hooked on your channel now. I have done very limited recreational research on the Valknut (Hrungnir's heart) and admire that you provided the information you did about the rune stone.

  • @firefly9228
    @firefly9228 6 лет назад +146

    In Slavic mythology it was a simbol that represents combining of 3 worlds,Java, Nava, Prava. Java is our world, Nava would be the Astral realm, Prava is like a Valhalla (the place of the gods) .

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +23

      We are always learning :D thank you

    • @sergeymikhailov9234
      @sergeymikhailov9234 5 лет назад +8

      There is no such issue as the "Slavic mythology" because there is no Slavic original ethnicity as a matter of fact. Slavic is a social, not an ethnic marking.

    • @ragnartheredbeard9667
      @ragnartheredbeard9667 5 лет назад +34

      Yet all Europeans share dna haplogroups starting from the Slavic people :- but yeah Slavs don’t have history or ethnicity

    • @sergeymikhailov9234
      @sergeymikhailov9234 5 лет назад +8

      Ragnar, there is a great misunderstanding of "the "Slavic people" concept, imposed by the Byzantine Christians. There were very few Slavic people in Eastern Europe before the Atilla times/the Great Nations migration in Europe. Slavic is not an ethnicity, it is a social status, comparable to the níðingr in old Norse. The main ethnic groups on the territory of what Russia now is, were various Goths and Scythians. Some Balts and the original Uralic Finns. And those, who were turned to Slavic by force, were of the same ethnic origins. Compare the Elots and the Spartans - they were both greeks, actually.

    • @gasmaskmaikeru3178
      @gasmaskmaikeru3178 5 лет назад +25

      @@sergeymikhailov9234 There is no Slavic mythology? Then what are the pre-Christian gods then, like Perun, Veles, Svetovid, Morana, etc? I know Slavic isn't an ethnicity, it's just the name for a specific linguistic group in Europe. But surely this linguistic group of people still had a history & culture, right? These people were obviously making some sort of lifestyle in ancient times. I just want to be correct, so I'd like some information please, like books or websites. It's hard to find what is true, with all the false information given by "Slavic Neo-Pagans." I'm just trying to understand my history.

  • @balderwilberg1721
    @balderwilberg1721 6 лет назад +5

    This video is amazing! I just found your RUclips Channel and I'm a big fan already! Very interesting content! Thank you so much! :D

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +2

      Welcome to this channel friend! Hope you enjoy my other videos! ^^

  • @mykines1981
    @mykines1981 6 лет назад +57

    There are also valknut symbols found in viking graves in faroe islands

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +13

      Interesting. But not surprising, since it was conquered and colonized by Norwegians in the IX century if I'm not mistaken, and so they took with them much of the spiritual beliefs.

    • @bugzyhardrada3168
      @bugzyhardrada3168 5 лет назад +4

      It's funny to see him use roman numerals
      Pretty ironic but i like it

    • @fizeekpoaster
      @fizeekpoaster 5 лет назад +13

      @@bugzyhardrada3168 It is pretty funny to see you use the Latin alphabet
      Pretty ironic but i like it

    • @bugzyhardrada3168
      @bugzyhardrada3168 5 лет назад +3

      @@fizeekpoaster yeah i was gonna use the Icelandic/Norse but i figured not many would understand it.
      Pretty ironic, right, but i like it.

    • @hoppermantis7615
      @hoppermantis7615 5 лет назад

      It goes back further into vandals

  • @troesler81
    @troesler81 Год назад +5

    I always thought that it was derived from the druidic triquetra but being carved in stone it was easier to do the tight straight lines than the large thin loops, but it's only one man thought.

  • @christopherrhodes2578
    @christopherrhodes2578 4 года назад +2

    Speaking for myself at least, I love your videos for the exposure to the old terms and names. Great content as always friend!

  • @GTXWarrior
    @GTXWarrior 5 лет назад

    This video answered SO many questions for me. Subbed my friend!

  • @tonygrayne60
    @tonygrayne60 5 лет назад +5

    I wonder what Varg would say...

  • @konradpanduram4576
    @konradpanduram4576 Год назад +1

    As a Sadhaka(scholar) of the old indian way, I'm still middle europian origin and find it always interesting how easy symbols get missundestood and missused.
    The swastik is also a good example.

  • @EJFulford
    @EJFulford 4 года назад +4

    The first time I saw this symbol my thought was that it might mean infinity. If triangles were made into a more complex version of the figure 8, this would work. It also makes me think of MC Escher or Penrose stairs. So if it's been used in the context of a death ritual as well as associated with horses than my inclining would be that it has something to do with representing a great journey, and that can be a grand mission or escapade but also be used to describe the travel from one life to another or into the afterlife. If this is an infinity symbol used in the context of a journey than perhaps it has a similar meaning as the phoenix also my best guess would be that it might symbolize the infinite path that one travels to, from, through and between lives. Any scholars out there with any other images where this symbol was used? I'm very curious about this.

  • @TheLucifersHalo
    @TheLucifersHalo 6 лет назад +4

    It is very interesting that this symbol appears here in these images. The triangle has been a major symbol for ancient druidic knowledge during early Celtic and European times. In the image with the horse, one can see a "building" of these triangles from 1 to 2 to 3 between the legs of the horse, which could symbolize the acquiring of certain triads of knowledge or experience. The horse image representing a "journey" or symbolizing a forward moving process of unfoldment or development through life. The 3 interconnected triangles would therefore illustrate the harmonizing of 3 aspects of development, the entire synthesis of completion, which of course would be used in images that showed the "end of life", death or sacrifice. One can see that the single triangle appears at the back end of the horse, the 2 beneath the centre and the 3 under the front legs, showing a forward time progression - also illustrated by the direction of the horse. The Druids did not remain within any geographic boundaries, rather they wandered all the lands with their knowledge, tales, laws and spiritual teachings, and would have had a definite impact with the early peoples of ancient Europe, Scandinavia, Iceland and early Britain. The triangle represents 3 aspects (or a triad of principles, conditions or experiences), and the addition each new triangle shows an addition or acquisition of extra, possibly more complex or higher aspects being achieved.

  • @idunnagerth4759
    @idunnagerth4759 6 лет назад +1

    Lovely presentation, humour and a great background research. You have yet another subscriber

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад

      thank you so much! Welcome to the channel! :D

  • @user-ui3em2ev1j
    @user-ui3em2ev1j 4 года назад +10

    Contact Allfather Odin and ask him for knowledge about the symbol "Valknut"

  • @waywardsons4596
    @waywardsons4596 Год назад +2

    It was my understanding that the three triangles represent the three trials odin faced and the nine points of the triangles represent both the nine days odin spent hanging from the branches of the tree of life and the nine realms.

  • @southernpaganprincess7739
    @southernpaganprincess7739 2 года назад

    Just found this video. Absolutely love your gift of teaching your knowledge. Thank You!

  • @cecil8080
    @cecil8080 5 лет назад +9

    I love your content, it's extremely interesting.

  • @MysticHeather
    @MysticHeather 2 года назад +2

    Watching this 4 years later in 2021 and that whole skit at the beginning where you say to your friend that he should get a job in fast food etc or sell his soul as they might as well be the same could NOT be more relevant right now, at least in America. Also thank you for continuing to share your education, experience and knowledge with us. There are a lot of people in these comments who seem to have completely ignored everything you shared in favor of their own ideas about this symbol and if I were you I’d probably give up. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own interpretation in their personal lives and spiritual practices, that’s great but a lot of people seem to think they “know” what this symbol represents despite the fact that literally no one truly knows what it means. Thank you for continuing to share despite the fact that some people will always see things their own way even in the face of facts

  • @EduMatheus
    @EduMatheus 7 лет назад +18

    Very good video, gave me a new way to think about the Valknut!
    Greetings from Brazil!

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  7 лет назад +3

      Hey! Thank you! A warm welcome to Brazil! :D

  • @auroraarcturusambassador8042
    @auroraarcturusambassador8042 5 лет назад

    Can you also please tell me if my surname seems to have any connection with the Norse

  • @alithwolf1065
    @alithwolf1065 3 года назад

    I know this is an older video, is it possible that the symbol is a representation of safe passage? Or just passage in general?

  • @ryand.5857
    @ryand.5857 5 лет назад

    Arith- just one question. What do you think is the symbolism of naming this symbol after Hrungnir? I’m familiar with the myth and am uncertain how he ties in other than simply that his heart was stone and triangular. Is there more to it than that?

  • @linwong1494
    @linwong1494 10 месяцев назад

    Oh man I love this! Thank you for informing us about this. I knew things were blurry with the “valknut”, but its interesting to see how it happened. Also, great that you’re using public domain pictures only :) its a nice respectful thing thats seems small but shows mindfulness.

  • @UllrT
    @UllrT 3 года назад

    I know this is an old video, but I am just watching you starting recently. I am wondering if the symbol might have something to do with Seidr, It seems a "woven" knot, and if it's (as some attest) attribute it to Odin, it might make sense? I would very much value your thoughts on this idea. I appreciate your videos a lot, Thank you sincerely.

  • @PointHat0111
    @PointHat0111 4 года назад

    Did you think about the option that the two versions are actually two different symbols? With separate meaning?

  • @lorialiyugaskelterlabennet8219
    @lorialiyugaskelterlabennet8219 3 года назад

    Great video Arith! Thanks for this. I love the chicken in the picture frame! Subscribed

  • @lilydewinters4729
    @lilydewinters4729 2 года назад +7

    I love your channel. It’s always nice to have a place to go to verify information, learn, and enjoy history. I appreciate all of your hard work and dedication❤️

  • @thorshammer8033
    @thorshammer8033 5 лет назад +4

    Even if it is historically incorrect, in its current usage it still is a power symbol. If thousands of people believe in it, belief creates power. We create our own reality by metaphysics.

    • @runefire4483
      @runefire4483 4 года назад

      I believe I can fly... nothing is happening... I guess metaphysics is bullshit and belief exists in the imagination.

  • @davidphillpot284
    @davidphillpot284 5 лет назад

    Is it possible with you saying about the horses and death that it branches off of the story "The Death of Baldr" when Hermod rides Sleipnir to Hel yo bargain for Baldrs soul and return? Odin is also known for sending either Huginn or Muninn to gather information. The raven shown could be one of them

  • @helenhart4368
    @helenhart4368 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the gift of your RUclips channel.

  • @user-lz2es3fs2f
    @user-lz2es3fs2f 3 года назад +1

    I think the general meaning is similar to the Triskelion symbol, but with a twist connecting it to the number 9 (three spear ends maybe and a reference to Odin). Notice also the nine knots below the scene (signifying a period of nine days and nine nights?). The placement between the horses legs suggest that it in general symbolize energy movement, and the pattern on the shield supports this interpretation. It seems like the general meaning don't depend much on the context. The birds looks indeed like a falcon and an eagle (perhaps in order to emphasize on symbolizing trance/vision instead of knowledge (ravens). Notice how the triskelion appears above the eagle's head by the way). The three swordsmen reminds me about the trice spearing of Gullveig. The horse moves the other way, the soul/persona plus all its previous incarnations) in the upper section. I think the boat and the horse (the individual in a trance state: the drum sounds like a horse galloping) is the one and the same (the sail contains all the earlier life threads. The wind symbolizing the direction of destiny). There's an interpretation on the mythsmysterieswonders site of this and other stones where the different motifs are colored in different colors and interpreted (The motif to the right in the first section, by many considered an ornamention, I actually believe might represent a root intended for ingestion (the witch initiate fights helpless against the effects of the root, personified by one armed warrior on each side). One of the motifs in the second section from above, all the way to the right, does according to Timothy J. Stephany, symbolise a well of water. After seeing another picture of it in a blog entitled 'Viking stones of shame' I'm convinced it's a Shaman drum). It seems like the horse (the spirit) travels with the eagle/falcon spirit down to the underworld in one of the lowest sections). I think the story starts at the top and moves in a zig-zag snake pattern movement downwards. This must truly be one of the greatest artworks from this period. It's interesting how this painting ties into the Snake-witch painting, where the Triskelion signifies the triune animal totem force (The eagle: spirit flight/vision, the wolf: possibly strength/energies, the boar: spiritual courage/confrontation). Because at the same time it will of course also signify the soul energy in flight, with the eagle as an attribute. The phallus suggests it's a death and fertility ritual. Digression: in gnosticism there's a term: sexual waters.

  • @jimbombadill
    @jimbombadill 5 лет назад +1

    could they represent the three divisions of the world ? uper world , middle world and underworld. I know there are 9 world but they were divided into 3 layers.

  • @dakotafoy1996
    @dakotafoy1996 5 лет назад

    My question to u arith is i wear a valknut pendant necklace even though the symbol has a different name could it still be associated with odin by wearing the valknut around my neck i pledge myself to the all father.

    • @hartwarg3051
      @hartwarg3051 4 года назад

      I think Allfather welcomes your pledge regardless. The symbol has been seen carved with depictions of Odin several times.

  • @MortFantome
    @MortFantome Год назад

    That intro is priceless, thank you.

  • @droelieboelie3269
    @droelieboelie3269 Год назад +2

    The hanging man indeed probably is Odin who hung himself on the Tree of Yggdrasil (central tree linking up with down) and also received the knowledge of the runes. This is the way new things are brought into manifestation.
    the triple triangle could signify the Primordial 0 becoming refracted into the three worlds. Just like white light is made from combining the 3 colours green blue and red.. the Zero also refracts into the three. While actually there are only two polarities still three worlds are distinct, Earth (Midgard) being the Middle.

  • @voluptuosidadeslapalabra
    @voluptuosidadeslapalabra 2 года назад +23

    There is a problem: what we know about ancient myths is already configured by people converted to Christianity, for example Snorri Sturlusson

    • @AmarothEng
      @AmarothEng 11 месяцев назад +5

      Yes and no. We can track bunch of things to the pre-christian runestones and to the poems that linguisticaly do match the actual viking age, even if they were actually written down in the christian age following it. So, this statement isn't entirely correct, and can be quite misleading. There is a lot we don't know, and pretty much everything we think we know we in fact approximate and assume, even if they are very well informed guesses - they are often guesses. Having said that - here comes the most important: this applies to very, very, very vast majority of what we believe to know about human history. Especially when it comes to medieval and pre-medieval times.

    • @Rikson_27
      @Rikson_27 5 месяцев назад

      @@AmarothEngso u saying all these ancient text all around the world. We just guessingggggg what it means????

  • @user-gw6mn5sc5j
    @user-gw6mn5sc5j 3 года назад

    Is the mapping of the assemblage point for the hermetic shift.

  • @ericwbergeron7909
    @ericwbergeron7909 7 лет назад

    this is good to know, even though I must change some things. please keep us posted as you learn more. Many Thanks!

  • @youknowwho9741
    @youknowwho9741 4 года назад

    Anyone know what a strange loop is

  • @geschepper
    @geschepper 4 года назад +1

    thank you for educating. Keep up the good work!

  • @sparkyswearsalot
    @sparkyswearsalot 2 года назад

    I am super happy to hear these words properly pronounced. Read them for years with no idea how they sounded.

  • @WitnessTrueSorcery
    @WitnessTrueSorcery 7 лет назад +62

    Hello Arith! Once again, a very good presentation on a very important subject. I wholeheartedly agree with your analysys and there a lot to learn from this video. Good job mate! I can add a few words of my own, if you of course allow me to allow you, to allow me to comment in this "tiny" comment section here, where the blank space openly screams "PLEASE FILL ME IN !!" :D Kidding of course, well, anyways. Here goes my little personal interpretation. Very objective and of course open to corrections and suggestions and more deep analysys. Here´s the basics, which i have no doubt you may already be familiar with, but maybe some of your viewers may not be. The Valknut as symbolized by three interwoven triangles, represents the three triads. The first triad is: "The triad of arising". The second one: "The triad of being". And the third one, "The triad of destruction", or passing away to new arising. The three triads intertwined as a one whole form the well known form of the Valknut as we know it today and as the ancients intended to be presented to the material and (maybe non material) world as an archetypal symbol. Now, the first, triad, "The triad of arising", (or simply put) the first triangle, symbolizes, Óðinn, Vili and Vé in each corner / direction of the triad. It is also the creating triad which creates "space" and the cosmos. The second one, "The triad of being", symbolizes Urd, Verdandi and Skuld. It is the triad of being and also of time. Time is created through the female triad when they are weaving the thread of destiny. There is also a dark triad of beings who have important roles in the end of the world in the great transformation of Ragnarök. This triad represents the disintegrating and destructive forces, which enable rebirth and change. That is the third one. "The triad of destruction", symbolized as Hel, Jörmungandr and Fenrir. It is Loki's or (Loke's) three children with the giantess Angrboða. It is also symbolic for the triad of destruction and departure. Thus there are three triads, forming the symbol known as the "Valknutr". Also, numbers and numerology in general have always been of great importance in religion, myth and magic. Numbers also seem to be part of the basic structures of the mind. There is a lot to discuss, analyse and digest and it is good to do it outside of the "well" known and accepted boundaries of the academia. Academia is good, but not too good if a person intends to open his consciousness to more than one direction and escape the fixed reality, which of course is constantly pushed into our faces by universities, mass media and all the rest. Anyways dude. Hope i wasn't of too much of a nuisance. Takk, and until the next one! ;)
    - Borislav

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  7 лет назад +19

      You know what? I actually wrote that on my essay, about the triads and about the number three, and since those are 3 triangles (and obviously each with 3 corners) tanta makes 9 points which takes us to the nine cosmic worlds of Norse mythology. But I wanted to keep the video short and I wasn't sure if that point of view would fit into the research I've done based on archaeology, history and literature of the old icelandic sagas. This time I wanted to keep the esoteric aside and focus on what our norse ancestors believed according to what they have left behind on the runestones and picture stones. I wanted to make the interpretation by reading the images. But it's a good thing you pointed that out because the magical aspect of things helps us to understand the mind of our ancestors and why they did what they did. Thank you so much for your feedback, as always ^^

    • @elibr03
      @elibr03 7 лет назад +3

      Hello, thank you for this video. I'm from Venezuela (sorry for my poor english), I will try to explain myself: The number 3 is very important and repeated in my life, I wanted my first tattoo so when I saw the valknut I thought in "three times three". Now I have a little valknut tattoo on my shoulder, and after that I read about horrible things (like violent death) because of the valknut... I'm scared...

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  7 лет назад +9

      The Valknut is still a good symbol for a tattoo, as you could see from my video there are a lot of meanings behind this symbol and even meanings we don't know but our ancestors did. It's not just a symbol of death; it's a symbol of deep and complex spirituality, so don't worry ^^ hugs and kisses to Venezuela! :D

    • @elibr03
      @elibr03 7 лет назад +5

      Thank you!!!

    • @dakotau2575
      @dakotau2575 5 лет назад +1

      So...if I get this tattooed on my neck, what is it I'm saying exactly??

  • @DipakGotam76239
    @DipakGotam76239 Год назад

    What is the symbol mentioned to be in Odins(one.s) belt???

  • @BoneTheViking
    @BoneTheViking 4 года назад +4

    Nicely portrayed and absolutely correct.
    It is the Heart of Hrungir.
    The heart was said to 1 triangle shaped, and in Snorre's saga and the Edda its said that Hrungirs heart beat 3 times after it was removed from the slain giant... hence, the 3 Triangles interwoven...
    I have just one comment to your video that though really should research...
    VIKINGS DID NOT HAVE HORNS ON THEIR HELMETS!
    That's a German f'ing brunhildes opera and Hollywood thing!

  • @TheSheepDogPatriot1776
    @TheSheepDogPatriot1776 3 года назад

    Found out that im related to King Harald Fairhair. What should I do?

  • @hardfandango
    @hardfandango 5 лет назад +11

    I am a bit confused about the title. Your description of the Valknut is basicly the same as every other explanation so I fail to see where the "lie" comes in. What lie do you specifically reffer to?

    • @cnazu5185
      @cnazu5185 5 лет назад +3

      I think he's talking about how most people see the valknut as a symbol of death or sacrifice but in reality it's probably not.

    • @hardfandango
      @hardfandango 5 лет назад +2

      @@cnazu5185 To be honest it is probably a symbol of death or sacrifice. No other senario has come even close to describing a satisfaying explanation and the fact that almost every place it has been found is somewhat related to a grave a sacrifice or warriors.

    • @Couldar
      @Couldar 4 года назад +1

      The "lie" is that the triangle symbol is not the Valknut. It was only very much later that the term Valknut was even coined and was used to describe the square knot pattern

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 4 года назад

      @@cnazu5185 Symbols ultimately mean whatever you want them to.

  • @revvanmev2885
    @revvanmev2885 4 года назад

    The second depiction almost looks like a wedding.....Perfhaps the symbol means to be forever tied to something or someone? I don't know if this translates right but maybe the original name of the symbol was something like aiwjknut?

  • @robinderoos1166
    @robinderoos1166 5 лет назад

    Perhaps it has something to do with the ritual to remove a piece of flintrock from thors head?

  • @weisseadler
    @weisseadler 4 года назад

    Maybe the sign it tries to show that the entire picture is a ceremony, even if it's cutting someone's back or a coronation...etc

  • @guyh.4553
    @guyh.4553 5 лет назад

    Arith,
    Very educational. But one thing. I thought that Valknut represents Asgard, Vanaheim, Midgard, Helheim, Jotumheim, Niflheim, Svartalheim, and Muspellheim. Can you please explain this?

  • @MaxMeandering
    @MaxMeandering 5 лет назад +2

    Interesting video. I also like the fun Viking character.

  • @crowsbaneful
    @crowsbaneful 7 лет назад +1

    Greetings Arith! Another excellent video sir, im thankful to you for putting out such information in an accessible way and as I've said before you are unpretentious which helps immensely, i will watch this again before commenting further as I'm not overfamiliar with the sign i did want to just mention though an interesting similarity about the horses, my grandmother had Romany connections and I understood that on death the soul became a horse and galloped into the afterlife.

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  7 лет назад +3

      yes it is interesting to see that there are a lot of cultures, all across the globe, that believe the journey to the afterlife will be on horse back. This also links to the myth of Sleipnir for instance and the myth of Hrungnir itself is about his horse and Odin's horse. It was a quick reserch on my books and archaeological evidences and I came up with this video before going on vacations. I'm glad you liked it, I'm really happy to receive your feedback ^^

  • @TheNickHollywood
    @TheNickHollywood 6 лет назад +3

    what about vegvisir?

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +1

      I speak about on in my 2nd video about the Icelandic Magical Staves (a recent video). Eventually I shall make a video solely about it.

    • @cjlwhite1
      @cjlwhite1 5 лет назад

      The book associated with the Icelandic Magical Staves was created fairly recently, however, supposedly some of the symbols are extremely old, and were associated with farmers and fisherman out in the rural areas of Iceland. Vegvisir is a good example. Did vikings use it? Nobody really knows.

  • @patmundschau5082
    @patmundschau5082 2 года назад

    In the stone images there are 3 triangles but in the horse image there are only 2. Could it be that give each different meanings?
    nt

  • @teresafigueiredo
    @teresafigueiredo 7 лет назад +2

    É importante ver a tua dedicação e como desenvolves o tema, é nítido o teu empenho e conhecimento adquirido, há uma evolução de vídeo para vídeo, está mais dinâmico desperta mais atenção e interesse, está mais solida toda a narrativa com ilustrações importantes para melhor compreender o tema! A introdução do personagem é uma outra faceta do teu trabalho, divertida e cativante, gostei e faz-me esperar pelo próximo! Congratiolations!

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  7 лет назад +1

      és a minha maior fã ^^ obrigado :D

  • @auroraarcturusambassador8042
    @auroraarcturusambassador8042 5 лет назад

    Yes, thank you, I did enjoy and look forward to seeing more information on the Valnut symbol

  • @TheBigBadBeowulf
    @TheBigBadBeowulf 5 лет назад

    From the research I've done on the subject the reason that the valknut is linked to death and fate is because that symbol is always found with Odin and other psychopomps and on urns and things like that and since they didn't have a name for it they created one for simplicity's sake in order to be able to have a reference.

  • @BushcraftWoodsDevil
    @BushcraftWoodsDevil 6 лет назад +2

    A great video. Entertaining and interesting. I had seen this tattooed on people and did not know what it was supposed to be. Then I saw a patch in a store and the clerk told me it was a "Valknut" and a symbol of respect to slain warriors. If I understand you correctly, it *may* be associated with death, but could have other meanings too. I see it on the Stora Hammars carving...is the Valknut in the bird's beak? It almost looks as though the bird is *delivering* the Valknut? In Norse mythology, did the God's use birds as messengers? Thank you for this excellent video!

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +4

      Hello there, thank you so much for the feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Yes, the Valknut had a deeper meaning to the Norse, not just a symbol related to the slain warriors as we thought. We can see it in the Stora Hammars, for instance, that it had a more profound and complex significance, yet, we might never know what it trully meant to our Norse ancestors. Birds also had mythological meanings to the Norse, but that comes from a far older prehistoric trandition throughout Europe. Carrion birds were believed to carry the souls of the slain in battle during the Bronze and Iron Ages. The Norse maintain this tradition with ravens, as messengers of the gods and also carry the souls of warriors.

    • @BushcraftWoodsDevil
      @BushcraftWoodsDevil 6 лет назад +1

      Fascinating! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge & culture!

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +1

      and thank you so much for being in here and give me your feedback ^^

  • @beowulfrants4457
    @beowulfrants4457 6 лет назад +3

    I imagine it could have many meaning depending on who was using it, it wouldn't be the first symbol to do so.

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +3

      Old symbols often have many meanings which are added throughout time according to people's needs and the changes in their religious realities, so it's perfecly normal that the symbol symbolises so many things and also normal losing certain meanings.

    • @beowulfrants4457
      @beowulfrants4457 6 лет назад +1

      exactly, also great video I plan to watch all of you Norse videos they are really good.

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад

      Thank you very much ^^

  • @sunilpermaul7876
    @sunilpermaul7876 5 лет назад

    The quill thing was unexpected and a nice bit of humour. Wasn't needed and sometimes adding things like that can backfire/look "hammy", but that worked for me. Very nice video sir.

  • @johnanthonyfingleton2954
    @johnanthonyfingleton2954 5 лет назад +18

    I have the sign tattooed on my skin...for me it is my commitment to Odin and Asatru. .thank you for the video.

    • @ErikStehlar
      @ErikStehlar 4 года назад +1

      I have the same symbol along with Odin's Ravens tattooed on me so it's a little late to back out now.

    • @whocaresudo
      @whocaresudo 4 года назад

      Its calling me also hardcore to get it inked

    • @Shock_Treatment
      @Shock_Treatment 3 года назад

      Then you'd better hope it never turns out to be something weird.

    • @nightdark2616
      @nightdark2616 3 года назад +1

      Then 5 years later someone discovers it really meant 3 dicks interlocked together or the licker of anus or something like that.

  • @urblotasunkynewulf615
    @urblotasunkynewulf615 4 года назад

    What if the "Valknute" is a means of traveling into the other worlds for someone dead or dying? It seems the second pic is maybe the Valknute lifting the person and his horse into the other realm(s).

  • @deacon6347
    @deacon6347 Год назад +1

    Valknut was mostly found on burial mounds and urns it closest name for it is huringirs heart what we can get out of that saga and artifacts is possibly a symbol meant to represent felled family member or community member as a nirse pagen I suggest not to get it as a tattoo it might give you bad luck only in my opinion

  • @jefferyjosephlloyd5839
    @jefferyjosephlloyd5839 3 года назад

    Try this for a new angle on the subject, the inner lines coming together is that of the triscal representing the valley within the ring of mountains, the tallest of which would be Snaefell Mountain, the mountains of the Isle of Man.

  • @isaaccoffman2070
    @isaaccoffman2070 4 года назад +13

    I love how the Apple command button is actually an ancient Norse symbol.

  • @MediaFaust
    @MediaFaust 5 лет назад +2

    Val(en) doesn't mean "the dead" ... it means "battleground". A physical place where physical conflict happens. The word "val" is still used in common Norwegian, for some place where "something" happened ("valplass").

  • @th84lok25
    @th84lok25 Год назад

    All symbols created were created in the perspective modern times. Do symbols created more recently mean less than the symbols of old meant during their time?

  • @theodoralling8705
    @theodoralling8705 7 лет назад +4

    this was very interesting, thank you

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  7 лет назад +1

      I'm happy to know that, thank you too

  • @madyem4672
    @madyem4672 4 года назад

    The one with the four joining loops is a Bowen knot, no?

  • @DG-ky2cu
    @DG-ky2cu 5 лет назад +1

    Would it simply be a 'mobility' symbol - which could of course mean movement through life, movement from life to death etc. (hence the association with horses) Perhaps the association with Odin is through a connection with wisdom and how wisdom becomes more cogent as we 'move' through life?

  • @fenrierulven5723
    @fenrierulven5723 6 лет назад +2

    I just guessing here, buy its possible that it is somehow a representation of a Journey through the nine worlds or something to do whit journeys? it make sense because one travels on horseback, and wen you die well you travel to the under world, and also odhin was such a traveler himself, also the 3 points of each triangle make 9 , like 9 worlds

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +2

      Yes it may be possible, and it's an old symbol that was kept all the way to the Viking Age so it clearly had an important meaning to the Norse. It's possible that it gained other meanings with time, and it just evolved to something else. But I think it's definitely related to death.

    • @fenrierulven5723
      @fenrierulven5723 6 лет назад +1

      I see, all this things about symbols is always so difficult to really understand but so interesting to study at the same time. =)

  • @petergoettler1385
    @petergoettler1385 5 лет назад +9

    Well, That Was Interesting. As I Have Tattoo ''Valknut'' With ''Viking Runes'' And The Name - ''ODIN''[ Runes] Spelled Out.

  • @AikweidHaast
    @AikweidHaast 4 года назад +1

    From the contexts it is found featured in, both in archaeology and texts (namely those mentioned in this video), it seems to me this symbol was chiefly used to represent the movement between worlds or movement in an immaterial/spiritual/magical/ritualistic context.
    Both in its proximal featuring to depictions of suffering, death, sacrifice, and travel by horse (mythologically relevant to the entrance into other worlds), as well as the possible relation to the heart of Hrungnir, the heart being a symbol of Hrungnir's death in battle and his spiritual departure from Valhalla where he was fought and killed.
    To take the hypothesis further I would point out that when the square knot was instead used in depictions it was in the context of movement within the present material context. But I would elaborate on the term movement both here and in reference to the above mention of movement in terms of the valknut and say that a more appropriate term might be 'passage' or 'continuation', as the square knot was carved into houses and textile designs and hypothesized to be protective or hopefully permissive of the security or well being of the object to which it was projected, this is consistent with its feature in carvings around persons in ritualistic action or beneath a ship in the sea where the visual signs of the ships journey would have been present for the people of the time and the symbols placement of them in depictions given associative meaning to that journey and the hopeful blessings of said journey or partaking.
    I would suggest the valknut might have been used in a similar way, but to positively "bless" or permit in some way some form of journey that is instead outside of the immediate and physical world, whether that be the continuation of the spirit of the dead or killed into a state outside of the physical/current world, or the journey of the living outside of their immediate physical surroundings through a spiritual medium, invoked through appropriate sacrifice, suffering, magic, event, or spiritual introspection (this last assertion relying mainly on the symbols appearance on the Stora Hammars I stone with its proximity to the hanged man symbology).
    In this way I'd agree that the Valknut isn't a direct symbol representing death, sacrifice, or fate, but rather a symbol representing a more specific and perhaps culturally significant concept to the people of those times in their spiritual beliefs/hopes. If I were to summarize this interpretation into an term with some relative utility I would propose the term "Transcendent Movement". As in; Movement beyond or above the range of normal or physical human experience.
    To me this accounts for its use in the varying contexts including ship burial findings, and is still pretty consistent with current interpretations.
    (as a cheeky bonus this would validate the usage of the symbol by religious practitioners of N. European religion/spirituality in showcasing their faiths and would also be appropriate otherwise for those who see it as a more simple representation of general spirituality or personal growth/cultural significance)

    • @jtalbot34
      @jtalbot34 4 года назад +1

      Haastt Ttsaah I’m studying Saidr and the Völva as a descendant of a famous Völva and I’ve always thought it meant travel of the 9 worlds and associated with Yggdrasil and Odin.

    • @AikweidHaast
      @AikweidHaast 4 года назад

      @@jtalbot34 I'd agree it may represent the 9 worlds in some way too.
      From what I understand there was a sense of an immediate connection from our world to the others. I suppose what I meant above could be simplified in saying, I think the symbol could have represented that conncetion in some respect to the other worlds wherever it was used.
      That said. There are a lot of other seemingly more convincing explainations in this comment section and I'm inclined to give preference to them above my own ideas.

  • @shadowreveled5107
    @shadowreveled5107 4 года назад

    I didn't agree at first.
    I had to watch it a second time.
    You're my favorite historian on vikings subjects

  • @johnthurman4101
    @johnthurman4101 5 лет назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @rowanshane7354
    @rowanshane7354 4 года назад

    In the context of the two pictures it looks like movement. The direction of the swooping bird and the movement of the horse as it would have walked

  • @dordly
    @dordly 4 месяца назад

    Valknute (the actual pattern) is mostly recognized in the US as "that key on Apple keyboards"

  • @HrafnNordhri
    @HrafnNordhri 5 лет назад +2

    Why does the symbol have to be this or that? Thor's hammer was an efficient weapon but also used to bless bride and marriage.

  • @Egill2011
    @Egill2011 Год назад

    The symbol can be seen on ancient runic stones. Its meaning and name however are unknown.

  • @glennthomas9878
    @glennthomas9878 5 лет назад

    Could the triangle be related to witnessing the pyramids of Egypt,looking into it I found Muslim commutation with vikeing and the relationship with trade with Africa with glass beads east sword making

  • @robfunkhouser3793
    @robfunkhouser3793 4 года назад

    Is it "Hoden" or "Woden"?

  • @Junior-el5pd
    @Junior-el5pd 5 лет назад

    Obrigado você e muito bom no que faz!!!

  • @Horrordelic
    @Horrordelic 4 года назад

    What was the lie, you are also not sure about it it seems ?

  • @kcharlie2841
    @kcharlie2841 7 лет назад

    Where are the subtitles in Spanish?
    No pude entender nada :v

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  7 лет назад

      I wish someone would do them for me :p

  • @vsevolodarkona1902
    @vsevolodarkona1902 6 лет назад +1

    Book recommendations for viking history pl0x :D

    • @davidphillpot284
      @davidphillpot284 5 лет назад

      Vsevolod Arkona Viking Myths and Sagas by Rosalind Kerven

  • @denisouellette9332
    @denisouellette9332 4 года назад +3

    I believe it is a symbol of exploration. Thank you for your excellent video.

  • @hg1651
    @hg1651 5 лет назад

    I look at it and I see past present and future and how it is all tied together.

  • @Mimas810
    @Mimas810 3 года назад

    for me it looks like a symbol that should make carrying things stronger. a boat, a horse, a mother, a coffin

  • @scottbowman27
    @scottbowman27 5 лет назад

    Very informative i have just start studying on the Norse culture due to a family connection... And have feel in love with the culture. So thanks again for a great video

  • @jackori6685
    @jackori6685 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you Arith, for a great video, as well as for having the jam to make it fun by dressing up. 😅

  • @SkydinZeal
    @SkydinZeal 3 года назад

    Thank you for the videos. I have seen This symbol carved on sea serpents on Viking ships. These were carved not as design but as a talisman. I have heard that the symbol could have been used to bind someone or something at a distance. Blessings

  • @mariaesthermirandaespinosa5029
    @mariaesthermirandaespinosa5029 2 года назад

    I have to make a comment, my boyfriend is now deceased, he had that symbol tattooed on his left arm in 2018, in September 2021, he had a very serious accident where he lost his life, I wanted to replicate his tattoo because I know he loved it I really liked the history of the Vikings (but I didn't see it as a religious or something similar), but before tattooing it I wanted to investigate it further and I have come across terms that have left me cold 😞

  • @danhaddow9745
    @danhaddow9745 6 лет назад +4

    Hi Arith I was told as a child the three corners of each triangle represents the 9 world's (Asgard, Vanahelm, Midgard, Jotumhelm, Alfhelm, Helhelm, Niflhelm, Svartalfhelm and Muspellhelm)

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  6 лет назад +3

      Yes I was told that as well. We are all prone to see patterns everywhere, it happens with every symbol and every ancient construction, ideas, everything. People will see a lot of things in the Valknut. It may be true or not, we will never trully know.

    • @danhaddow9745
      @danhaddow9745 6 лет назад +1

      Your right we may never know for sure the true meaning ....keep up the good content 😀

    • @zarez1119
      @zarez1119 5 лет назад

      You mean you saw that on google

  • @arjantjeee
    @arjantjeee 2 года назад

    In the low Saxon region of Twente there's a lost Vanir goddess "Tamfana" who was linked to autumn, burial mounds and sacrifice. She's the old goddess of Twente and even though there's not a lot known about Tamfana, she plays a very important role in my region. She was accompanied by hellhounds and the white women who roam around the burial mounds. They lived to feast and a big golden drinking cup has been described in the sagas which later on has been found and its one of germanies biggest archeological findings.
    The Tuihanti clan (Twente) also had a strong link to Hengest and Horsa and a big stallion is the coat of arms of the region.
    Tamfana is also strongly linked to Nerthus in terms of her ceremony being one of the big 3 sacrificial harvest rituals. Tamfanas sacrificial stone is still located in Oldenzaal. Though the stone probably originates from the area of the Marsii clan where her "temple" was destroyed by the Romans. Among the clans who helped the Marsii, were the Tuihanti.
    It might be possible that this symbol might be a link to a trinity of goddesses: Nerthus, Tamfana and "???" and their sacrificial traditions.
    In turn, these traditions are linked to bogbodies such as the Tollundman (who had healing herbs in his stomach and apparently suffered from severe stomach bleeding) and the girl of Yde (who was handicapped and mightve had a stroke as one half side of her body has been mutilated) who was found in a similar way with similar traces, both hung and put in the bog in the same position.
    My thesis is that these people were sick beyond help and being ceremonially euthanized for one of the trinity goddesses.
    Both ceremonies of Tamfana and Nerthus are described by Tacitus and he wrote that in both cases all clans were at peace with one another. There was no war and completely let their guards down to feast.
    All the elements on the stone carvings link to the low Saxon sagas of the region of Twente. A place where Vanir deities play a more important role.
    I don't have hard evidences, but ever since I'm trying to dig up who Tamfana really was, I see so many similarities and overlap. I honestly think that Tamfana, Nerthus and another goddess might be the core of this symbol. If my assumptions are correct, it would make this an ancient Vanic symbol.

  • @kenjacobus8231
    @kenjacobus8231 5 лет назад

    Valknute what does it mran

  • @wrobelmike
    @wrobelmike 5 лет назад

    Is it at all possible that the Borromean and Unicursal symbols are actually two different symbols with different meanings?

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  5 лет назад +2

      So far what we know is that they are just different artistic styles to represent the same

  • @geraltgrey-mane695
    @geraltgrey-mane695 3 года назад

    I have forgotten if you Arith have coverd the symbol "Triquetra"?