Why Is Everything Going Wrong? Extension #30
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It is fantastic listening to trades talking with pride and skill about their work!
Until you come across a "Know All"....lol
Roger, you've got to find a way to 'bottle' James - he just oozes decency and integrity. I can see why he is a popular member of the Skill Builder family. Clearly a top bloke. Great video (again). Thank you 👍
Very nice of you to say, thank you.
Should be pretty easy to bottle him, just take him down the pub and wait till hes not looking.
You can't beat working with a small group of friends/colleagues on a project. Especially when quality comes before quantity.
Best tiling iv ever seen. Detail is everything, I would admire that and truly believe it ads value to the property. Great job!
Kev the Tiler. He’s a perfectionist, and absolutely mad for the game!
Kevin is the best! He eats, sleeps and breathes tiling!
Do you guys design, plan and price the whole job? I think a video on planning and pricing would be great, especially from a team of reputable builders
Gosh you couldn’t have found a better builder (James) to help with your RUclips channel…. He’s such a pleasant man and a fantastic tradesman.
Thank you Dean, that is very kind of you to say.
Three on the job chaps just talking about the job. Brilliant. Truck driver shortage and increasing wages for them are adding costs. I will never be bothered about paying extra for quality. And all three of you are quality
Thank you for your kind words.
You'll have nothing to worry about regarding work James. One of the best builders I've seen. Great detail and an awesome attitude.
And by christ that tiler is unreal! Possibly the best one I've seen.
Thanks mate. Yes, I’ve know Kevin for a very long time , we are good friends and he is probably the best tiler in the world!
Super refreshing video guys, it’s nice to see that J&I the perfectionist also make mistakes. Love the content, look forward to the next video.
Thanks Mike.
Love the quality of work James and his people do 👍
Thanks Adrian.
Love seeing James and Ian working
It's not wasted Roger, they do notice, they don't realise the detail or how it has been done, they just see it looks good.
quality is only missed when its absent
I love those situations where you have two different screed levels and two different build ups that have to marry up for a continuous finished floor. Not stressful at all!
And hearing about these sorts of problems. It's like being read a diary of my life! Still lovely work. Everybody makes mistakes. Everybody. And the situation changes out of your control. It's how you deal with it that counts. We had a very similar situation with a bath like that. The bath cost £5000, custom made to order and came from spain. Was a nightmare!
What a very impressive and beautiful job James. And I'm also extremely impressed with your white knees!
Thanks Martin, I’m still working on a more permanent white for the knees but I am getting there. Watch this space!
Great bit of plumbing lads! Everything looks very nice in deed. Cheers.
Cheers Shaun.
Wish I could work for James, seems like a top bloke & a fountain of knowledge.
You would learn a lot for sure but keep watching the videos and he will take you through many interesting jobs.
What do you do for work Joe, perhaps we could do a swap?
James is the best, iv worked with him for many years and we always have a laugh.
Great video gentlemen. It is so good to hear a tradesman Oops I mean person 🤣 taking so much pride in their work.
Great video as always Rodger.
Thanks Roy.
Another great vid, quality work boys 😎
Thanks!
Simply fantastic 🚧🤜🏻💥🤛🏻
Thank you.
Brilliant as always guys 👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Cheers Rob.
Well done gents really enjoyed that, not sure why' as I run my own building business and that is a true reflection of building life... 👍
great vid james is a real funny guy , and a spot on builder
Cheers Dave, I’m working on the comedy but I’m glad you appreciate it! 😂
The building trade has its fair share of Roy Rogers types but James is a 100000% genuine guy, I would gladly have him working at my house and I guess that rogue Roger would tag along but he ain't too bad ;)
Lovely video Roger , what a great team of professional. I can’t believe the price of materials have been hiked to such an extent , very worrying situation for you all. I know from lads I used to work with that everyone is very busy , but if materials become to expensive it must at some point affect the amount of work done . As a retired electrician materials have always been a big part of the cost in my past life , so it will be interesting to follow some of my ex colleagues to see how it all pans out . Best wishes and kind regards as always. 😀👍👍👍
Great team and job!
Cheers.
One of your videos drop and it’s like walking round a corner and bumping into some mates, having a chat for a bit then on my way again ..👍
Hello mate!
Well done Ian, that Dan is a good bloke . 👍👍
Dan is a gentleman and a scholar! I can’t believe he sent me one of his squares!
@@iantarncarpentry4285 your welcome 🙏. Bit late on watching this episode..😂
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. must be a lack of tea!
This is the most relaxing thing to watch. Even when you're belts and braces, trying your absolute best, reading the warning labels, instructions, checking constantly you still end up sometimes (very rarely in James case) looking like a complete twot from the customers point of view re the bath waste leak. I suppose it is the same in a lot of professions though. As long as the standard is high shit can happen.
Very true Jim, we try our hardest but at the end of the day we’re all imperfect.
Such a great channel.... Even better now my Mrs just heard that your Mrs has been waiting ten years..... Oh mate... Talk about timing she just walked past and heard that.... I'm off the hook!..
For a while at least.... As I'm typing she just walked past muttering " Ten years " ....., 😂😂😂😂😂
Lads.... I'm in the clear for a year at least.... You absolute super stars....
Dean
I have a mate who told me years ago not to fix that broken door knob or whatever. He said "That door knob is like a moat around your castle, your wife can't get passed it and if you fix it you are letting the drawbridge down. Once she is in you will be looking at a list of jobs that last your whole life and possibly longer. Just leave the door knob and she will moan about that and nothing else. Then all you have to do is learn to shut it out of your mind". Good advice that I failed to follow.
@@SkillBuilder Distraction tactics sometimes work. But they get wise to them quite quick!
👊... To late for me but I'll pass that on to my sons....
Some of the best father to son tips I've ever heard...
After 15 years of doing a self build and having to learn every job while on the job she's had to put up with many draw bridges and terrible failed events but we still battle on through the piles of rubble and leaking roof....
Why did i think i could build my own house??? 😂😂😂
She liked places in the sun and i loved grand design...
Fu## knows what we was thinking but we thought we could do it.... So now I'm in Spain with a ever growing house / garden and we learnt exactly how powerful the tel lie vision is.... Needles to say we don't watch it anymore 😂😂😂😂
Thanks for doing your channel it's become a wealth of info and a good laugh too ❤👊
Wish this much detail was put into my new build!
Great video as always 👍🏻👌🏻
I think materials prices have got to go down. People won’t be able to afford to have the work done if the prices stay as they are or get more expensive, so they’ll put the job off until next year for example. That and the possibility of holidays getting back to normal meaning money is spent elsewhere means that the supply chain of building materials will simply have to drop the prices again.
Great content as always guys. The price of sheet good like 18mm Caberwood Pro Moisture Resistant MDF Board have doubled from Rogers todays sponsor :) almost £50 per sheet !!!
Great Vid Roger - On the subject of the massive rise in heavy side material prices - it would be great if you could pin down and interview one of the buyers /managers of a large builders merchant to find out why there has been such a rise and when if at all the prices may return to a sensible rate - I for one have had quite a few customers cancelling projects as they are too dear once i have re priced them!!
Thanks for the update. Always interesting!
How come the clients wanted skirting in the bathrooms?
Cheers
It was a toss up between tiled or traditional skirting and the client went for traditional.
Brilliant series, really enjoying it. Quick question, what tool belts would you recommend? Or have you got a review film out on them? Cheers
I remember 40 years ago when I was a young carpenter I made the carcass for him and her sink in the ensuite for an architect in Wimbledon , when the worktop came the labourers carried upstairs and unfortunately one of them dropped it so therefore it broke in half , this made the owners suicidal but when the sink top broke the foreman said put the kettle on he will live forever I’m not sure about the Architect
With regards to the click down LVT i have had issues with some installed against a 6 meter bifold door, with the really hot weather we had, client opens up the door and the floor becomes like jelly with the sun on it and it is also to hot to touch. (Even with the correct underlay)
Great video guys :)
The click LVP still requires an expansion gap (dependent on the room size) if it's a large room I'd say you want minimum of 5mm either end. If you can't manage to cover that with silicone you'll have to go with a Scotia or a quarter round conduit. With a bit of luck that should stop the floor buckling up. There's not really alot you can do for the planks getting hot in direct sunlight. If it's a problem with the door shut you could possibly apply some sort of UV film to the window but other than that I don't know. Realistically any flooring will get warm in direct sunlight, but ceramics will probably stand a better chance of staying cool.
@@greenreaper1985 I got an expansion gap of 10mm under all skirting etc
Just seen this, thanks 😉.
Polish in the post Ian…
Really enjoyed this one , just some good honest banter . Material prices and availability is ridiculous lately . Me and Al were doing an Anstone porch for one of our viewers and we were short of stone so he drove off to Leigh to the only local suppliers ( where he got the rest of the stone from ) to get a couple more metres ..... “ sorry mate we are all out “
“ When will you get more in ? “
“ Forticrete are manufacturing some next April “ 😳🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Cheers Steve. The materials thing is mental at the moment, I don’t know what to tell customers when they ask because it sounds like I’m making it up!
My son and i are in a different position, we have stockpiled when possible and managing to keep the job moving. Unfortunately the price increases in both timber and metal have eaten our contingency fund we built into the quote and now has cost us labour time as well in doing the job and possibly having to leave the client with an unfinished extension because the budget cannot stretch anymore. The increases have eaten 1 x 6th of the budget away mounting to about 2 months labour cost. There is no accounting for this in any quotation and exceptional on normal prices and increases and leaves both us and the client in an awkward situation with the build.
Nice vid, real honest. Them double WHBs are getting popular eh, practical though if the bathroom/en-suite is big enough. My heart sank when you said about the bath leak, glad you sorted it though. Material prices are crazy at the moment, hopefully not long before it calms down. 👍
Cheers Chris, thanks for the comment.
Tiling is superb, Great work by James and Ian as always. Timber has gone up globally due to many factors. The biggest of which are disease and fires most likely caused by global warming & climate change and of course a knock on effect from Covid. Last I heard Canada is reducing exports by 40% mostly due to disease (including pest damage) in trees. Fairly certain that USA is being heavily affected by fires. So when global demand is the same (or higher) and supply is constrained then prices go up.
I think Kevin is the best tiler on planet Earth!
Thanks
Thank you for the drink
6:30 One thing I've learnt is that water will always get into something so always allow it to get it out. The only time you don't is when it's going to actually sit under water.
To satisfy the Building Regulations is a timber frame bracing plan and calculations required to be submitted?
0:56 Those small bathroom tiles take a crazy amount of time to do properly ... unless I've been doing it wrong. Maybe those came in sheets lol.
Always wanting quality workmanship like the tiling, never seem to get it!
Well done lads superb workmanship just don’t know how you would price a job of this size and and a timescale for the client . Wounded if you stuck to the budget ? How long did this project take start to finish ? Was it worth it ££ in the end ? As a business point of view . Well done to all the lads that work on the project great to seen good trades work shown 👍🏻
Question not related to this video, I have a stone clad wall over a solid wall and I think it absorbing water as the internal wall is damp when it rains. Had the roof and gutters redone a couple of years ago so it not that. What would you recommend to stop the stone clad absorbing moisture? Not sure what type of stone as it was fitted when I purchased the house
James’s week away was actually putting up a Garden Room! He’s poor kids had to drive in the ground screws!
Anything to keep them off the internet!
I saw on another channel from the US, the price of timber (at least in Pennsylvania) has all of a sudden come down to jus above the old price.
As Roger said, here in Australia we are also very short of Building Materials & the price has sky rocketed. It's been a trend for a long time here now to use Steel frames, There is a New Estate just down the Road & the Majority of new Homes are Steel Framed. This also helps with the Termite Problem & of course all the Steel is straight. I have never worked on one but they come on the back of a Lorry & go up very quickly. Do you know that this could be a Trend in the UK somewhere down the track.
Tell me about it, wanted some alcove cupboards building and the carpenters not available until after xmas ffs. So did it myself.
Re the metal knobs - just cut a slot in the top for a screw driver for when your hands are wet!
Not keen on the idea of using silicone on wastes. I recently changed three basin wastes that were siliconed and it was a nightmare removing it. Apart from that, as usual your videos are exceptional. I always look forward to the next episode. Thanks for showing the mistakes as well as the perfect finishes.
WD40 will dissolve silicone in minutes
Good to see another cold showerer Roger, a great start to the day. You a breathing exercise man too?
I do a bit of running and cycling so hopefully that does something. My Dad was an opera singer and I think singing is a great breathing exercise.
@@SkillBuilder agreed. The neighbours are constantly complaining about my recital of la traviata on my return from the pub. Bloody uncultured.
Please could you describe the layers of the walls for the extension over the garage? Did you use cement board directly on the outside of the studs and then render that? Or did you use osb, breather membrane, counter batten and then cement board?
Just interested because I’m planning a render-finished garden room and wondering if I can save money by skipping the osb?
I never ever use just the rubber/foam washers that come with all basins/baths/shower wastes. I ALWAYS use Plumbers Mait.
Suppliers now only guaranteeing materials prices for 7 days! What most people don’t understand is that all the companies have been sucked up by a few large companies including timber processing. A few making a killing. Some customers starting to wobble when they hear the materials have added £5k to the price!
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Skip prices in Australia through the roof as well
That will be Brexit
What was james using to dot and sab the elements board? I've just gone a wall with kst adhesive. Mixed 20kg bag with 4 litres of water a d found it very loose. I was expecting it to be more like plaster board adhesive.
He used board adhesive. You are right about the tile adhesive, It doesn't have enough body for dot and dab.
@@SkillBuilder wish I'd of known you could do this friday night when I did the wall😄 could saved 60 quid and a headache!
In that room 2.05, I notice that the sockets are exceptionally low down. What is that round disc on the wall? I like the colour on the walls, what is it? Seen similar and it had some trendy name - elephants breath
My guess for the round thing is a WiFi network repeater or other ethernet access point like that.
If it's true that sockets need to be 40cm off the floor, that's ridiculously high, just measured mine here and the lower edge of the outlet is at 23cm, 40 would be half way up the wall! Silly! 🤔👍😅
New builds are the only properties with sockets placed at 400 high. If you are adding an extension you can place at existing level. Regs came in a few years ago for sockets to higher for disabled access.
It's a Unifi WiFi access point, why they didn't go for the in-wall type I'm not sure, might be availability issues on them at the moment.
@@richardhasted4445 I thought socket outlets, (and I haven't checked tbo), new builds had to be 1000mm high for disabled and switches similar. Seen a new build installation and they look shite.
I install my S/O about 400mm FFL and switches at 1400mm FFL.
To comply with Part M of the building regs it's actually between 450mm to the bottom and 1200mm to the top. Sockets therefore tend to be 450mm to the bottom and 1200mm to the top of light switches etc. The exception tends to be room stats where manufacturers instructions should be followed to ensure they perform as intended. New builds only mind, retrofit can be mounted at the heights of the existing in the property which makes sense.
SELCO, ITS WHERE THE TRADE GO! (that fucking radio jingle) 😂
Love the build, but would'nt it be better to put skirting on after karndean?
I’ve often thought that but the floor layers we use are so good that you wouldn’t know if it was under or not and also if there is any kind of problem with it they prefer it this way as it’s easier to take any parts up to change them.
Nothing about timber but builder merchant told me that HS2 had drawn away materials like cement, aggregate, etc. from the small people.
Which polymer adhesive did you use?
HB42
Check out the bearded tiler.
Kevin is a legend, one of my oldest and best mates!
I can't see episode #29, have I missed one?
What paint manufacturer and colour have you used on the walls @ 01:45?
It’s ammonite by farrow and ball but we had it mixed in Johnstone’s.
Listening to people putting time into getting floors completely microscopically flat makes me think that our priorities are getting pretty weird in the west. And I say this as someone who has to do this stuff myself. It always makes me question why we're doing it. Is it really adding a lot to anyone's life?
I often find myself in the situation where I feel like saying to the client 'look, just give me the money and we'll pretend I've done it and I'll just have the next couple of weeks off, and you can have exactly the same life you would have had regardless of whether I'd done this job'.
For LVT you're not really going for microscopically flat, you're going for smooth. Even that nice screed that's been done on this job wouldn't even be close to where a good floor layer would want it. The biggest issue I usually come across is people have furniture that rocks. Because most of my work is in new build plots customers aren't very understanding when their table rocks. In today's world of modern technology I would have thought reaching SR5 (which is basically screed regularity of 5mm over a 2m length) wouldn't be too much of an issue, but it turns out it really is.
what make is the bath please?
Clients dont need to be "understanding" about the cost of materials going up. You need a contract worded, " as the cost of materials, transport and waste disposal is outside our control, this is an estimate and not a definate contract price. We would therefore recommend a reserve of £X in order to cover such unforeseen increases".
Totally agree, we’re only a middle man for the materials at the end of the day, it’s not our money we’re buying them with.
Not as easy as that.
You still need to win jobs, clients want a set price and only have so much money.
You just tell the client to buy the shit, and your labour charge will be ..
Hey Dan anymore scratched ones need a home ?
scratched ones are now twice the price due to unprecedented demand.
Sorry but not this week.. 😬
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. ok maybe next week
If you want to get hold of Roger to do your bathroom you could find him outside your local selco with his team of Romanians
I use Selco almost on a daily basis and can't recall seeing many Romanians or even Polish people in there. I think it depends where you live.
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#bestguy Ian
Ian is the man!!
🤘😎🤘
head and shoulders owes you a few quid for product placement brah! :)
I passed it on to the client.
Why fit LVT up to skirting as opposed to under the skirting
It's perfectly ok to fit LVT up to skirting rather than under it. The stick down variant doesn't require any expansion gap, so with a careful installer it should look like it's going under the skirting anyway. The reason this is done usually comes down to timing. In my experience the builder usually sub contracts out the flooring work, but they want to finish all of their bits before they get the floor layer in rather than having to pull off the job for 2-3 days and then return to finish up. Even though most LVT is pretty bomb proof I still wouldn't recommend having builders traipsing over it while working, all it takes is one screw on the floor that someone scuffs and that's the end of your flooring. Chances are you'll still have to have a silicone bead even if the skirting is on top to stop any draughts and hide any small gaps to the floor.
1:27 tap the level
Access point at skirting board level?
It’s some kind of WiFi thing that sky fitted.
hi
The amount of jobs where I’ve been out to replace those flush shower units. People always regret it. I just recommend the surface mounted ones with the 150mm fittings. So easy to change when they go wrong.
Brexit is the default argument for some... I was told be the American market is buying it all up from Europe at inflated prices because of their shortage.
Slashley
The biggest problem is scale and we will do a video soon showing how to descale one. If you do need to replace the cartridge it is an easy swap.
@@SkillBuilder I find tho they’re different from make to make, I could be wrong. I’ll look forward to your video.
@@SkillBuilder Need to establish the scale of the scale problem and weigh it up on a scale of 1 to 10.
Major or minor scale though?
It's covid inflation
Same happened in the 70s with the oil crisis
Prices will not fall back they will continue up
Wish I could afford james to come finish my house
join the queue
I’m even in the queue!
@@iantarncarpentry4285 mates always go to back of queue!!
I wish I could afford to finish my own house!
It's getting to the stage the jobs that i do arnt going to go ahead because of the price of material... their wages haven't gone up 3 times.. its a joke.. steel has gone up timber insulation and concrete.. then increase in diesel electricity is going up 9 percent gas 18 percent.. yet people want you to work for the bare minimum.. i don't know where its all going to end up.. the big lad is always going to be able to drive the small lad into the ground..
Big issues at the moment not only all these major infrastructure projects like hs2 etc taking huge amounts of materials, not helping but then shortage of lorry drivers covid etc. What a disaster for the industry.
It's also home improvement jobs have skyrocketed since people have decided to spend money on their house instead of a holiday.
@@Robert-cu9bm good point
Kids grow out of everything so fast. You will be back in 5 to 7 years putting in a new toilet and sink.
It is a full size one but maybe the camera angle fooled you.
@@SkillBuilder I noticed that, but it hangs mighty low?
@@ReedikTuuling they have low arses.
Omg why did they go with the old school pvc patio 1/5 window patio door spec? Bifolds or pivots would have been much better,.
Traditional look easier for an elderly person to operate, not being part of the herd. There are lots of reasons and as tradesemen we respect the customer's choice.
@@SkillBuilder One has to shy away from the herd every now and then.
Is this James' house?
One of his many houses. He has one in the Phillipines that even his wife doesn't know about......oh no!
@@SkillBuilder I haven’t seen that house yet so it’s a surprise for me and my family! 😂😂😂
How the hell did James liquidate his company! There’s no hope for me 😅
Why didnt the owner spec hot water recirculation. Simple and cheap
It has it, that was put in
Stakker?
Must be on holiday?!
@@Oli_Hudson Yes North Korea, very nice this time of year and zero covid
@@SkillBuilder Hahahaha!
Denty mate! I know...I know...but got to let the proletariat aspire to achieving a highly coveted 'first' on a Skill Builder video! So I throw 'em a bone once in a while! hahaha!
@@stakkerhmnd thanks comrade
come on Roger ...it's not 3 times the price ..£'s are worth three times less .....
money printer go brrr = inflation !
Interesting because people say the only way we are going to off load the debt from covid is through intflation. You can see it happening right now. Governments will secretely wish it while condemning it. Put your money in copper, the world will be short of copper when we all have electric cars and heat pumps.
Them waste bits they supply with the baths and sinks are junk.i binned mine and got some proper brass ones fitted with plumbers mait.
“If you’re ever not busy…… my wife has got a hole…….”
My internet went down, what was said next?
I can’t for the life of me understand why manufacturers can’t produce a waste fitting that seals correctly and easily. Even with the big name brands you still have to be extra careful and cautious installing them.
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The simple fact is that the shortages are a combination of factors, post COVID demand spike, shipping & containers and yes Brexit (HGV driver shortage and new customs arrangements - no-one wants to hear this bit of course!).
HGV drivers have a hard job in horrible traffic on our crowded roads, sleeping in lay-bys and getting their curtain sides slashed open and loads stolen.
Very few people want to do the job for the money they were offering which was hardly more than the minimum wage. They have gotten away with it for a long time but it comes home to roost. Brexit has been one factor in the shortage of 'cheap' drivers so has covid and that has pushed up demand for U.K drivers. Hauliers are now having to compete in a scarce labour market and drivers can now start to enjoy a decent wage which is long overdue. Sure it will lead to price increases but that is the way the world works. We need to train more drivers and pay them properly rather than simply importing cheap labour all the time. The same goes for the building industry but no-one want to hear this bit of course.
@@SkillBuilder Indeed it has sadly been a race to the bottom on pay, terms and conditions, not to mention the lack of facilities for drivers! But this won't be some kind of 'new order', the race to the bottom is driven by consumers, many of whom won't enjoy price hikes when they were sold sunlit uplands. I can't see whole sectors just accepting this as the new norm and they will try and drive it back down somehow.