Get a PVC pipe and block off the end of it. Make it long enough the barrel can completely fit in it and be submerged when you fill it up with vinegar. Let it sit in a vinegar bath for a few days and take it out and give it some love with a wire brush or 400 grit sandpaper and then put it back in for a day. Then make sure you wash them off to keep the vinegar from re-rusting the barrels. That’s how I restore my old rusty barrels. I normally Oxpho blue them right away and then oil them so they don’t re-rust.
@dalemayhew8462 You can trace Forehand back to Eathan Allen in the late 1700s. The names changed as family members died. Fixed up you can shoot 2 1/2 in shells in them
cool old shottys if you get them back to a condition that they can fire safely the de carbonized steel one is probably black powder only the other its a crapshoot could be B.p. or could be smokeless but id run b.p. in it just to be safe lastly those shottys are from the B.p. to smokeless transition era as general rule it made before 1920 and your not sure if its black powder or smokeless just assume that its black powder
On that Western Arms one the slot in the hinge pin and the receiver would line up and there would be a hinged lever attached to the hinge pin that would lay flat in the receiver slot. So you could pry it up out of the slot and turn the hinge pin about 3/4 turn and unscrewing the hinge pin and thus remove the barrel from the receiver.
@@dalemayhew8462 Using a large flat head screwdriver turn that hinge pin and it will come out allowing you to separate the barrel from the receiver. There is enough there that with some effort those are both restorable to working condition. Under no circumstance use a wire wheel, grinder or steel brush on them. Take them apart and boil them in water for an hour. This will convert the rust back to blueing. They will look like crap when they come out. Then work them over slowly and carefully with triple O steel wool or a soft carding wheel. It make take several repetitions in the boil tank. You will be amazed how the blueing comes back. Then oil them to protect the blueing.
I think Western Arms became a division of Ithaca Gun at some point???
This could be ...I only reasurched enough to figure out what they were
Get a PVC pipe and block off the end of it. Make it long enough the barrel can completely fit in it and be submerged when you fill it up with vinegar. Let it sit in a vinegar bath for a few days and take it out and give it some love with a wire brush or 400 grit sandpaper and then put it back in for a day. Then make sure you wash them off to keep the vinegar from re-rusting the barrels. That’s how I restore my old rusty barrels. I normally Oxpho blue them right away and then oil them so they don’t re-rust.
Thank you for the info...
I've got 2 of those forehand arms shot guns. There is a spring-loaded lever that attaches to the screw for removing the barrel
Intresting....I appreciate the input and knowledge 🙂
@dalemayhew8462 You can trace Forehand back to Eathan Allen in the late 1700s. The names changed as family members died. Fixed up you can shoot 2 1/2 in shells in them
Super cool finds Dale!
Thank you....
cool old shottys if you get them back to a condition that they can fire safely
the de carbonized steel one is probably black powder only
the other its a crapshoot could be B.p. or could be smokeless but id run b.p. in it just to be safe lastly those shottys are from the B.p. to smokeless transition era as general rule it made before 1920 and your not sure if its black powder or smokeless just assume that its black powder
Thank you for the great information it would definitely be a black powder gun if I ever try to restore
On that Western Arms one the slot in the hinge pin and the receiver would line up and there would be a hinged lever attached to the hinge pin that would lay flat in the receiver slot. So you could pry it up out of the slot and turn the hinge pin about 3/4 turn and unscrewing the hinge pin and thus remove the barrel from the receiver.
Thank you for the valuable information...I was pretty sure it was something to do with the barrel...thanks again and thanks for supporting my channel.
@@dalemayhew8462 Using a large flat head screwdriver turn that hinge pin and it will come out allowing you to separate the barrel from the receiver. There is enough there that with some effort those are both restorable to working condition. Under no circumstance use a wire wheel, grinder or steel brush on them. Take them apart and boil them in water for an hour. This will convert the rust back to blueing. They will look like crap when they come out. Then work them over slowly and carefully with triple O steel wool or a soft carding wheel. It make take several repetitions in the boil tank. You will be amazed how the blueing comes back. Then oil them to protect the blueing.
@isserfiq thank you for your great information
Nice find.
Thanks!
Are you going to be restoring these guns? I would like to see that being done Dale.
I just might restore these at some point.....when I do I will most definitely share on the the channel....🙂
Super cool!