Paterson is spreading paranoia to ensure we take part in the trade war on China, basic warmongering shii - China, China, China, meanwhile our 'allies' lock up our journos for exposing their war crimes, but thats fine...
not for our military should come from china ...not our defence camera's ...not our milatry uniforms these things should be made in Australia ... how can they go from 1...to 450 to 10,000 china doesn't have to invade us they already know everything we are reducing our intelligence services our military our boarder force .....what are they doing ... these people answering question are rude and evasive they should of known everything they had ....so they could of been watching people gathering intelligence ...good on you senator keep after them ..
@JSBTOOLS Ha, fair [not 'fare'] point! You have played a positive 'role' in keeping me on my toes with my spelling. We are obviously both fairly good [when concentrating] at editing, and so should therefore both obviously be hired by Defence for procurement - we'd have those Chinese cameras edited out in no time! 🫡* *any speelung mistakes in this reply were deluberate.
It doesnt matter how many heads are going to be separated from their bodies for that. What matters is that the people and their representatives understand that cooperation/collaboration in any level with said country comes to a very high cost to national security and therefore Australian interests. We cannot in the name of profit,development and sustainability compromise everything else. There is a storm coming and even though we are far away from it at the moment we should always be prepared.
@moutsatsosa I agree with all that and would only add that 'sometimes' people who are acting as a hindrance to the implementation of these necessary changes must go. Whether or not it's simply because of a lack of procedural rigour, or apathy in relation to the creation and implementation of the necessary procedures themselves, this can't be allowed to continue - not if we're to be trusted with nuclear submarines by our allies, as we should be.
We are being controlled by the Chinese & this is just another case that proves it.Not many senators are asking these important “hard” questions that they would rather kept out of public knowledge.
We get ourself in these positions cause for the last 40 years onwards the people we elect are more interested in lining there pockets whatever it takes to lay themselves a future of comfort . Don’t for one moment think people take parliamentary positions to serve our nation , get that notion out of your head real quick
Great work Senator Paterson. I really admire your ethics and approach to your duties, you have a very professional manner about you and speak with measured eloquent tones and great composure and calmness. I think you really rile alot of these people and rightly so too, not all of them are squeaky clean and above board. I love your work and your dedication and committment to your job on behalf of all Australians. You are exactly the sort of person we need as PM, someone who is intelligent, respectful, polished and has a desire to keep our country honest and ethical. Not an easy task these days when there are so many shady characters inhabiting our political and governmental spaces. Keep up the great work, we support you all the way. Hope to see you run for PM in the very near future. Australia is very broken at the moment.
Kudos to Celia Perkins. A public servant who answers questions in a straightforward and seemingly truthful manner. The answers must have been hard for her and the department to own up to. So much better than the evasive behavior we see from the vast majority of public servants appearing before committees where the standard response is to handball or take the question on notice.
Why did you purchase 10,000 risky devices which will now be thrown out and obviously new ones bought - this is a very unresponsible waste of our taxpayers money , someone should be held accountable
"Accountability" in either Government or Bureacracy NEVER HAPPENS, it's only when Joe average, or a soldier is accused they go into full accountability mode.
Seriously, should I remove the Dahua CCTV system I have protecting my home? Dahua and Hikvision are two of the biggest selling brands in Australia and around the world because they provide great quality, performance and value for money.
@@tonidantonio9877 I agree they may be a bad choice for Defense or high security sensitive locations but for normal day to day in most common CCTV applications I can't see a problem.
@@tonybloomfield5635 agreed. I’m only thinking like when they had the baby monitors and all sorts of freaks were watching. Can’t be too careful. Cheers.
@@tonybloomfield5635 Yes, don't let facts get in the way of ignorance. However the risk is not just uploading but providing a gateway into the network. There aways remains a possibility it may later be mistakenly connected to the internet.
@@alxr101101 As an ex-CCTV installer I can tell you it is pretty bloody hard to 'mistakenly' connect a CCTV recorder to the internet. Simply plugging it in to a network port will do nothing without at least some sort of configuration being done.
@@tonybloomfield5635 and that's the point. Documentation, policies, procedures get mislaid or forgotten. Ports get mixed up, equipment gets moved. As a current NETWORK engineer, I deal with the unintended consequences of such foulups. In many scenarios, it may not matter but for critical infrastructure, the best protection is to remove the risk entirely. And I disagree with some sort of configuration needing to be done. DHCP usually is a default setting to at least gain some level of functionality/connectivity.
@@alxr101101 Although I think it massively unlikely that any of the cameras that are not networked (usually pretty basic security stuff) will contain anything the Chinese might want I will strongly concede your first point that policies, procedures mistakes seem to be very common in the Public Service. I also concede you have much better knowledge than me as to the Chinese being able to extract data by someone simply plugging a recorder into the network. You don't have to watch to many Senate enquires to marvel at how it is possible to keep a job yet be so inept at answering seemingly basic questions as a Public Servant. I did not know that networking people were also that bad they would add a piece of equipment to a network where it does not belong. Seems we have to 'IDIOT PROOF' the world to allow for idiots to live in it..
Seems like any numpty can get a job here. How long have the cameras been installed? Who installed them? Who requisitioned them? Who paid for them? Where was the information uploaded to? Where was each one installed? Good to see she's moving at the speed of science. Why were all parties NOT working together for the benefit of Australia?
Totally unacceptable. She lied by saying there was only one device when it's now clear that a complete audit/survey wasn't conducted to arrive at that number. She, and others in her department, have to go.
There should be a law that all online data storage from security cameras ( even residential ) need to have data stored in Australia only - and illegal to export the data internationally. Even doorbell cameras. It should have been done years ago. Absolute basic national security.
Well put, how ever as a Joe Average I would imagine that the items in question would most likely have been made elsewhere as I have no knowledge of manufacturing in Australia. Then that leaves me asking why not using our own products to minimise those breaches. Personally I cannot understand why our country isn't making steel, cars, grain and farming production, but instead it seems to be imported. There needs to be major changes, and regulations of over reach must be changed, the history of Australian companies going offshore needs addressing to keep it here, at the moment it is expense after expense and no gain for the country's prosperity through industry, Australia has it all, and constantly lets it slip through it fingers, and I will always point my fingers at unions being so greedy with wages instead of attacking the taxation system. Gst was introduced at 10%, but the hidden fees and surcharges are the killer of everything. Now everything is so complex it is showing the system is broken. It's the private sector that supplies the taxation for the government and council paid jobs, and the system is biting the hand that feeds it.
Spot on , our country has great earthly riches and we don't produce bugger all we have the riches and the land erea to set up many manufacturing outlets what's it going to take for the stupidity to end
Well that's the issue of component supply, we don't manufacture our own components to be able to do it cheaply, if we had a Microprocessor and chip production on our shores then it would be viable for businesses to create said security equipment for less. We've never really taken advantage of the new processes of manufcaturing for the past 40 years, and companies have been seeking even heavier profits that is just simply not sustainable. Anything that requires electronics needs microprocessors and transitors. If we started work for developing our own then in the future this might not be a issue but it would require gouvernment subsidies. You point the finger at the unions being the blame but I would argue it's the big companies who've avoided paying taxes just to make 8% more profit, it's disgusting and always has been.
Hahahahahaha, you mean hold someone accountabel..???? this is Australia Bureaucracy, NO ONE IS EVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE, only Joe average and soldiers are ever persecuted in Australia, never the elite.
Who ordered them? Who inspected the devices prior to security clearance all cleared for installation? Who is the holder of account/business CEO, Director etc.? Who are the share holders of the purchasing company? Why was no thorough inspection national security carried out on every individual device prior to installation? Who is the installation company? Who is the CEO, DIRECTOR etc. of installation company? Who are the share holders of the installation company? Also what is the name of the company doing this follow up inspection? Who are the share holders of the company doing this follow up inspection? I %100 guarantee in above alone there is a massive amount of insider trading taking place,also alot of account holders/shareholders who also have conflicts of interests within each and everyone of above said ,"entities" aswell as most of which shall be politicians and cronies thereof! This CESPIT runs DEEP with CORRUPTION!
It is a shame that Senator' James Paterson's side of politics didn't exercise a wee bit more caution when they handed over Darwin Harbour to the Chinese on a 99 year lease for half a sixpence.
@@wyattfamily8997 It was done by the conservative NT government but approved by the Federal Government who saw no strategic issues. David Kemp who was a Federal Cabinet Minister at the time resigned and joined Landbridge the Chinese company that acquired Darwin Harbour, on a massive salary, no doubt to make sure their were no second thoughts and that the transaction would proceed smoothly. Even Obama rang the Australian PM and voiced his concern.
Just take it back. The impact of sovereign risk is unimportant; we should avoid putting ourselves in situations where we need Chinese confidence, and the rest of the world can understand well enough that the risk is China-specific.
@@WiggaMachiavelli China is not the issue, it is just a matter of conservative politicians selling out regular Australians to foreign interests for next to nothing.
They can assess carbon on food eaten by the public, but unable to create a list of devices THEY INSERTED BY THEIR CONSENT is WoW … have to ask, are they working for US or the ccp 🤷♀️
Were it not for Western corporate greed, and by government design, Australian industry and technology would still be flourishing, not in decay... and made in China would have stayed in China. This military security situation is farcical. All the talk during the first 2 years of covid was to rebuild Australian industry and bring jobs back onshore, in the need to decouple from China and become more self reliant. 12 months later and we're back to business as usual. Greed never learns, it only destroys.
Why are these women so aggressive, arrogant and rude to the Senator? Senator Paterson's questions are absolutely legitimate and Australia has a right to know the answers. This isn't a joke, this is the security of our nation's military establishments. The three different answers of 1 to 42 to 435 is beyond incompetent, it's appalling. If we can't trust the Security Group of the Department of Defence to understand security, what hope does the ADF and our citizens have to feel safe? Why are my tax dollars paying for this disgrace to our nation? Shame on Perkins, quotas and Defence.
She states she is not sworn to this ministry Then why is she in attendance As for the eye roll it’s typical Mc Callister never her fault or responsibility Arrogance personified
This level of incompetence by whoever is responsible in the Australian Government is so unbelievable to the point of an intentional action has been made here to use these devices.
The real question is what dumb - ss permitted then to be used in the first place. Blind Freddy could see more a decade ago that China were establishing new military bases and building many weapons FOR A PURPOSE.
There may also be a small unit placed in Photocopy machines. Be aware of a addition of a small box hidden in/ on some Copiers: I understand the top of unit "may be" around 5" × 3' (13cm × 8 cm ballpark only). I am aware though have not knowingly seen one & am unsure of the purpose (if it replicates document data), however the Chinese have great interest in these units.
Head of defence and national security should be a commanding officer with only 5 years left to go. Not some stupid civilian that thinks they know what the armed forces and national security is about. The right person for the job not the feel good person for the time.
Anyone notice every time this woman is asked a question before she answers she adjust her clothing as if that makes her feel in control of herself and the position. It also shows that she knows what she is saying is far from the truth.
Do you remember the constant strikes from the 1970's. It was always about wages, not about the greedy tax man who never did anything to help their supplier, YOU, the tax system was structured in a way that as wages went up the percentage of tax taken increased and in turn put us in a higher tax bracket and penalised anyone who wanted to have a go, so in turn no one had a go, and that is why I point at the union going in the wrong direction, they should have been targeting the tax system, as I believe that is why we don't have a manufacturer of anything.
The removal of 435 devices was completely ridiculous. Anyone in ASD knows the devices are completely safe if appropriate cyber security measures are taken, including no connection to the internet. For the 'High Risk' areas i understand it might be appropriate, however removing the remaining 90% (including out of childcare centres) was stupidity. I doubt that ASD or ACSC had any involvement in this decision.
Why does Perkins think foreign national spying on INFANTS is funny and not a ‘sensitive’ concern? She’s appalling - Defense takes NO RESPONSIBILITY headed by these two women. Patronising Senators - so inappropriate and out of line. These people are stupid.
Now what about the stay at home Government bureaucrats workers cameras also because if they said 400 well triple that number at least Totally incompetent bureaucrats. Sack them now !
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Swamps are like that,thats Canberra for you.
Yes James patterson stirring it up
Great job James, your acute attention to detail and calm way of standing in sense with precision is impressive. Keep up the great work!
Paterson is spreading paranoia to ensure we take part in the trade war on China, basic warmongering shii - China, China, China, meanwhile our 'allies' lock up our journos for exposing their war crimes, but thats fine...
not for our military should come from china ...not our defence camera's ...not our milatry uniforms these things should be made in Australia ...
how can they go from 1...to 450 to 10,000 china doesn't have to invade us they already know everything we are reducing our intelligence services our military our boarder force .....what are they doing ...
these people answering question are rude and evasive they should of known everything they had ....so they could of been watching people gathering intelligence ...good on you senator keep after them ..
Why would they invade? They own the politicians so they already won. Australia is a Business not a country.
The military is already full of CCP implants I've seen them all over Sydney it's terrifying
Wow, this is a completely unacceptable level of incompetence. This issue was obviously not being taken seriously. Heads should roll for this.
Roll*
@JSBTOOLS Ha, fair [not 'fare'] point! You have played a positive 'role' in keeping me on my toes with my spelling. We are obviously both fairly good [when concentrating] at editing, and so should therefore both obviously be hired by Defence for procurement - we'd have those Chinese cameras edited out in no time! 🫡*
*any speelung mistakes in this reply were deluberate.
It doesnt matter how many heads are going to be separated from their bodies for that.
What matters is that the people and their representatives understand that cooperation/collaboration in any level with said country comes to a very high cost to national security and therefore Australian interests.
We cannot in the name of profit,development and sustainability compromise everything else.
There is a storm coming and even though we are far away from it at the moment we should always be prepared.
@moutsatsosa I agree with all that and would only add that 'sometimes' people who are acting as a hindrance to the implementation of these necessary changes must go. Whether or not it's simply because of a lack of procedural rigour, or apathy in relation to the creation and implementation of the necessary procedures themselves, this can't be allowed to continue - not if we're to be trusted with nuclear submarines by our allies, as we should be.
Just like ccp members In our govt for years...still there
We are being controlled by the Chinese & this is just another case that proves it.Not many senators are asking these important “hard” questions that they would rather kept out of public knowledge.
Such obvious security risks should be instant rectification regardless of discussions assumed to be needed. Ridiculous that it's not sorted long ago.
They don't seem too worried, maybe they know more than they are saying, not that they are saying much
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Keep questioning them Senator James Patterson.
OMG how do they get these positions in Gov no wonder Australia is going down the gurgler
We get ourself in these positions cause for the last 40 years onwards the people we elect are more interested in lining there pockets whatever it takes to lay themselves a future of comfort .
Don’t for one moment think people take parliamentary positions to serve our nation , get that notion out of your head real quick
China must be watching this and crying with laughter and there will be absolutely no price to pay, by anyone, except the tax payer
Thank you Senator and your team for pressing for this audit and bringing these issues to light.
Great work Senator Paterson. I really admire your ethics and approach to your duties, you have a very professional manner about you and speak with measured eloquent tones and great composure and calmness. I think you really rile alot of these people and rightly so too, not all of them are squeaky clean and above board. I love your work and your dedication and committment to your job on behalf of all Australians. You are exactly the sort of person we need as PM, someone who is intelligent, respectful, polished and has a desire to keep our country honest and ethical. Not an easy task these days when there are so many shady characters inhabiting our political and governmental spaces. Keep up the great work, we support you all the way. Hope to see you run for PM in the very near future. Australia is very broken at the moment.
Kudos to Celia Perkins. A public servant who answers questions in a straightforward and seemingly truthful manner. The answers must have been hard for her and the department to own up to. So much better than the evasive behavior we see from the vast majority of public servants appearing before committees where the standard response is to handball or take the question on notice.
The incompetence of this govt is truly astounding
Why did you purchase 10,000 risky devices which will now be thrown out and obviously new ones bought - this is a very unresponsible waste of our taxpayers money , someone should be held accountable
"Accountability" in either Government or Bureacracy NEVER HAPPENS, it's only when Joe average, or a soldier is accused they go into full accountability mode.
Money laundering. They have stakes in the suppliers via shell corps
Would like to know how long they have had them and who authorised them
@@franmahy5782 Dutton has his hands all over this
So glad you asked this question Senator! 👍👍👍
All the surveillance cameras that are now out in the street of lots of towns, what brand are they….that needs to be audited.
Seriously, should I remove the Dahua CCTV system I have protecting my home? Dahua and Hikvision are two of the biggest selling brands in Australia and around the world because they provide great quality, performance and value for money.
@@tonybloomfield5635 don’t know, but if it’s part of the know culprits, maybe…
@@tonidantonio9877 I agree they may be a bad choice for Defense or high security sensitive locations but for normal day to day in most common CCTV applications I can't see a problem.
@@tonybloomfield5635 agreed. I’m only thinking like when they had the baby monitors and all sorts of freaks were watching. Can’t be too careful. Cheers.
@@tonidantonio9877 Cheers!
Not internet connection, does not mean it ain't being recorded then uploaded
May I ask how it is uploaded without a connection?
@@tonybloomfield5635 Yes, don't let facts get in the way of ignorance. However the risk is not just uploading but providing a gateway into the network. There aways remains a possibility it may later be mistakenly connected to the internet.
@@alxr101101 As an ex-CCTV installer I can tell you it is pretty bloody hard to 'mistakenly' connect a CCTV recorder to the internet. Simply plugging it in to a network port will do nothing without at least some sort of configuration being done.
@@tonybloomfield5635 and that's the point. Documentation, policies, procedures get mislaid or forgotten. Ports get mixed up, equipment gets moved. As a current NETWORK engineer, I deal with the unintended consequences of such foulups. In many scenarios, it may not matter but for critical infrastructure, the best protection is to remove the risk entirely. And I disagree with some sort of configuration needing to be done. DHCP usually is a default setting to at least gain some level of functionality/connectivity.
@@alxr101101 Although I think it massively unlikely that any of the cameras that are not networked (usually pretty basic security stuff) will contain anything the Chinese might want I will strongly concede your first point that policies, procedures mistakes seem to be very common in the Public Service. I also concede you have much better knowledge than me as to the Chinese being able to extract data by someone simply plugging a recorder into the network. You don't have to watch to many Senate enquires to marvel at how it is possible to keep a job yet be so inept at answering seemingly basic questions as a Public Servant. I did not know that networking people were also that bad they would add a piece of equipment to a network where it does not belong. Seems we have to 'IDIOT PROOF' the world to allow for idiots to live in it..
“It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre”……Enoch Powell 20th April 1968
James Paterson - you have resorted my faith in state service. Thank you for asking the hard questions
senator James< I thank you for the coverage Australia thanks you.
Far too late…..Australia is now over reliant on China and dare not upset the apple cart
Thankyou Senator Paterson
Seems like any numpty can get a job here. How long have the cameras been installed? Who installed them? Who requisitioned them? Who paid for them? Where was the information uploaded to? Where was each one installed? Good to see she's moving at the speed of science. Why were all parties NOT working together for the benefit of Australia?
It took 2.23 mins to actually get the answer.
Better than average with "I'll take that on notice" the usual response which is effectively "I'm NOT going to answer you".
Maybe we should outsource Australia's security to China and save some money.
Labor would if they could. After all the ccp are their masters.
If they admit to 435 you can bet the PM's giant brain that there are many, many more than that.
Totally unacceptable. She lied by saying there was only one device when it's now clear that a complete audit/survey wasn't conducted to arrive at that number. She, and others in her department, have to go.
“Work health and safety reasons” she says that like she’s never done a risk assessment in her life....
There should be a law that all online data storage from security cameras ( even residential ) need to have data stored in Australia only - and illegal to export the data internationally.
Even doorbell cameras.
It should have been done years ago.
Absolute basic national security.
Wow, total incompetence. How do these people keep their jobs?
Well put, how ever as a Joe Average I would imagine that the items in question would most likely have been made elsewhere as I have no knowledge of manufacturing in Australia. Then that leaves me asking why not using our own products to minimise those breaches. Personally I cannot understand why our country isn't making steel, cars, grain and farming production, but instead it seems to be imported. There needs to be major changes, and regulations of over reach must be changed, the history of Australian companies going offshore needs addressing to keep it here, at the moment it is expense after expense and no gain for the country's prosperity through industry, Australia has it all, and constantly lets it slip through it fingers, and I will always point my fingers at unions being so greedy with wages instead of attacking the taxation system. Gst was introduced at 10%, but the hidden fees and surcharges are the killer of everything. Now everything is so complex it is showing the system is broken. It's the private sector that supplies the taxation for the government and council paid jobs, and the system is biting the hand that feeds it.
Greedy Unions? Have you missed the inflation being caused by profiteering? Pffft
Because I’d want more than 30 bucks an hour. Chinese nationals do it for 5 bucks a day
Spot on , our country has great earthly riches and we don't produce bugger all we have the riches and the land erea to set up many manufacturing outlets what's it going to take for the stupidity to end
All part of their plan
Well that's the issue of component supply, we don't manufacture our own components to be able to do it cheaply, if we had a Microprocessor and chip production on our shores then it would be viable for businesses to create said security equipment for less.
We've never really taken advantage of the new processes of manufcaturing for the past 40 years, and companies have been seeking even heavier profits that is just simply not sustainable. Anything that requires electronics needs microprocessors and transitors. If we started work for developing our own then in the future this might not be a issue but it would require gouvernment subsidies. You point the finger at the unions being the blame but I would argue it's the big companies who've avoided paying taxes just to make 8% more profit, it's disgusting and always has been.
Corrupt fibbers in high places, we need honesty and clarity on these matters, keep digging sir!
So who is going to stand trial?
Hahahahahaha, you mean hold someone accountabel..???? this is Australia Bureaucracy, NO ONE IS EVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE, only Joe average and soldiers are ever persecuted in Australia, never the elite.
Any men in senior PS positions? Doesn't look like it!
Diversity hey,lol
Who ordered them?
Who inspected the devices prior to security clearance all cleared for installation?
Who is the holder of account/business CEO, Director etc.?
Who are the share holders of the purchasing company?
Why was no thorough inspection national security carried out on every individual device prior to installation?
Who is the installation company?
Who is the CEO, DIRECTOR etc. of installation company?
Who are the share holders of the installation company?
Also what is the name of the company doing this follow up inspection?
Who are the share holders of the company doing this follow up inspection?
I %100 guarantee in above alone there is a massive amount of insider trading taking place,also alot of account holders/shareholders who also have conflicts of interests within each and everyone of above said ,"entities" aswell as most of which shall be politicians and cronies thereof!
This CESPIT runs DEEP with CORRUPTION!
It is a shame that Senator' James Paterson's side of politics didn't exercise a wee bit more caution when they handed over Darwin Harbour to the Chinese on a 99 year lease for half a sixpence.
That was a done deal by the then Territory Government, not Federal, but still a DUMB move.
@@wyattfamily8997 It was done by the conservative NT government but approved by the Federal Government who saw no strategic issues. David Kemp who was a Federal Cabinet Minister at the time resigned and joined Landbridge the Chinese company that acquired Darwin Harbour, on a massive salary, no doubt to make sure their were no second thoughts and that the transaction would proceed smoothly. Even Obama rang the Australian PM and voiced his concern.
Just take it back. The impact of sovereign risk is unimportant; we should avoid putting ourselves in situations where we need Chinese confidence, and the rest of the world can understand well enough that the risk is China-specific.
@@WiggaMachiavelli China is not the issue, it is just a matter of conservative politicians selling out regular Australians to foreign interests for next to nothing.
@@amraceway This is what we call being unable to see the forest for the trees.
Any company who make devises who offer digital services for updating can transmit any database the devices has captured.
These guys are really on top of their game
Hahahahahahahahaha, yeah no wonder our Defence partners are wary of sharing any data.
They can assess carbon on food eaten by the public, but unable to create a list of devices THEY INSERTED BY THEIR CONSENT is WoW … have to ask, are they working for US or the ccp 🤷♀️
The expertise of our bureaucracy on full display.
Shocking.
Many of these people should never be paid for their efforts.
A lot of no hopers getting paid handsomely. 🤡
McCallister is a partisan hack, continually plays the blame the prior government when cornered and can’t admit error or failure.
So WHEN will SHE be prosecuted? Just act u don’t care, Celia Perkins? DISGUSTING 🤮
NO body does it better than state agent hires......say NO More.
It’s like watching a Monty Python sketch……
Who was the defence minister when they were installed?
most of which were there when the Libs were in Government. but again blames Labor for not asking the question.
Were it not for Western corporate greed, and by government design, Australian industry and technology would still be flourishing, not in decay... and made in China would have stayed in China.
This military security situation is farcical.
All the talk during the first 2 years of covid was to rebuild Australian industry and bring jobs back onshore, in the need to decouple from China and become more self reliant.
12 months later and we're back to business as usual. Greed never learns, it only destroys.
Why are these women so aggressive, arrogant and rude to the Senator? Senator Paterson's questions are absolutely legitimate and Australia has a right to know the answers. This isn't a joke, this is the security of our nation's military establishments. The three different answers of 1 to 42 to 435 is beyond incompetent, it's appalling. If we can't trust the Security Group of the Department of Defence to understand security, what hope does the ADF and our citizens have to feel safe? Why are my tax dollars paying for this disgrace to our nation? Shame on Perkins, quotas and Defence.
the absolutely disgusted that she may have to do some extra work eye roll at the end says it all
She states she is not sworn to this ministry Then why is she in attendance As for the eye roll it’s typical Mc Callister never her fault or responsibility Arrogance personified
This level of incompetence by whoever is responsible in the Australian Government is so unbelievable
to the point of an intentional action has been made here to use these devices.
Go James, WE love u, 💯
Chines masks and test kits, that's Australia for ya.
LOVE THIS GUY.
Why isnt he on the news more. Keep asking these kinds of questions please.
They're in our universities they're called students
It makes me wonder too! These people are SUPPOSED to be ahead of the game. LOL
It is good they identified the devices
The real question is what dumb - ss permitted then to be used in the first place. Blind Freddy could see more a decade ago that China were establishing new military bases and building many weapons FOR A PURPOSE.
435 wth ! Just leave the door wide open & all the windows while your at it.
Yes, we should certainly remove Chinese-made red light and speed limit cameras from our intersections. That means all of them.
There may also be a small unit placed in Photocopy machines.
Be aware of a addition of a small box hidden in/ on some Copiers: I understand the top of unit "may be" around 5" × 3' (13cm × 8 cm ballpark only). I am aware though have not knowingly seen one & am unsure of the purpose (if it replicates document data), however the Chinese have great interest in these units.
Head of defence and national security should be a commanding officer with only 5 years left to go. Not some stupid civilian that thinks they know what the armed forces and national security is about. The right person for the job not the feel good person for the time.
So who ordered these items in the first place?
Doesn’t fill us with confidence.
Will they be removing the cameras from our streets
Anyone notice every time this woman is asked a question before she answers she adjust her clothing as if that makes her feel in control of herself and the position. It also shows that she knows what she is saying is far from the truth.
The procurement and installation of these devices seems to lack any process security controls.
Thanks for your work senator
Bloody incredible.
after the explanation, the government spin doctor interjects…..
Workplace safety v national security now ?
How were they approved and by who
Wasn’t this on Morrison’s watch?
Doesn’t matter the Chinese wont feel threatened by the adf they know they can walk in here without resistance
Lets face it,they underestimated their "Competitors "...
Do you remember the constant strikes from the 1970's. It was always about wages, not about the greedy tax man who never did anything to help their supplier, YOU, the tax system was structured in a way that as wages went up the percentage of tax taken increased and in turn put us in a higher tax bracket and penalised anyone who wanted to have a go, so in turn no one had a go, and that is why I point at the union going in the wrong direction, they should have been targeting the tax system, as I believe that is why we don't have a manufacturer of anything.
Probably not since Defence outsources a lot of things which makes it easier to be excused from being accountable 💁🏻♀️
In all fairness strong disagreements isn't unparliamentary for both side's here...
Question: can those devices contain a chip for recording? That could be exchanged and collected by somebody?
In WA people are screaming out for a reason to vote for the liberal party, you just might be the reason. Keep up the great work.
Need to update accounting practices because these things have to be paid for.
Not just the cameras but need to look at the vendors
These devices are crazy cheap to produce, you can buy military grade USB cables for a mere $100 that can steal and wirelessly transmit data.
Where is the Minister of Defence and why are Ministers from other portfolios thrown to the lions?
Who does Australia think they're defending? My grandmother saw every last one of her friends die, and each of their houses now contains an alien.
Defence security has been going backwards for a very long time. Policies are changed due to constraints within the industry. Nothing new to see here !
The removal of 435 devices was completely ridiculous. Anyone in ASD knows the devices are completely safe if appropriate cyber security measures are taken, including no connection to the internet. For the 'High Risk' areas i understand it might be appropriate, however removing the remaining 90% (including out of childcare centres) was stupidity. I doubt that ASD or ACSC had any involvement in this decision.
Is there any actual evidence behind these concerns ,or is the this a whichhunt.
Just give me the Money
Adf need to be replaced for incompetence
This is insane.....what next, huge balloons floating across the US !
These people are so incompetent and wasteful with no accountability and distasteful in their answers
So either she is lying, their level of self management incompetence is extreme or…, both…
Jenny McAllister a bit hungover in this session or always this cantankerous?
Says a lot for their asset management system.
Why does Perkins think foreign national spying on INFANTS is funny and not a ‘sensitive’ concern? She’s appalling - Defense takes NO RESPONSIBILITY headed by these two women. Patronising Senators - so inappropriate and out of line. These people are stupid.
If you think this is shocking wait till you hear what asio is doing to every Aussie citizen with cameras, metadata & movement tracking
What about Purchace Orders?
Just noticed these (Hikvision cameras) in the airside of Perth airport on arrival last Friday… meanwhile security made me surrender a BIC lighter.
Should probably also ensure no defense/intelligence personnel are equipped with huawei phones or routers
Now what about the stay at home Government bureaucrats workers cameras also because if they said 400 well triple that number at least
Totally incompetent bureaucrats.
Sack them now !
Thank you Senator, your starting to make me want to bother with Politics.