This is how flat earthers have always been: they try to explain a phenomenon and end up getting everything else wrong. For some reason it was disproved centuries and centuries ago...
I love the breaking of physics that has to go here for this work....hense why Walter Bislin who created this says he made it to show how stupid and impossible light has to bend to make it
😂😂😂😂😂😂 yet you believe in the ridiculous bending of space time and NEVER PROVEN gravity. You need 95% of "dark energy" and "dark matter"- also NEVER been proven, to make your ridiculous spinny waterball flying through space model
@@briancash1405 " yet you believe in the ridiculous bending of space time and NEVER PROVEN gravity." Still not true that gravity has never been proven but I know flat Earthers love to repeat lies. I guess weight isn't a thing in your world but that's ok. "You need 95% of "dark energy" and "dark matter"- also NEVER been proven, to make your ridiculous spinny waterball flying through space model" Again: not true. We had the model of our solar system long before thinking of Dark Matter. Dark Matter is just our best guess for some anomalies we found in the universe. Not knowing everything doesn't mean things don't work. By your logic humans weren't able to breath before we discovered oxygen. I think you guys are pretty funny though. The globe can't be true because of things you don't understand or misunderstand but a flat Earth is fine although it literally needs magic. Something as simple as a sunset doesn't make sense on a flat Earth. I know, some of you try perspective but everyone who knows how perspective works, knows it doesn't make things disappear from the bottom up. You guys even fail to see the irony in your "we see too far" attempts. It's the other way around: we don't see far enough far a flat Earth.
Can you please explain not only how we observe the "sun," but also how we feel the heat and get sunburn, etc., with an apparent sun model. Also, plants seem to also react to the apparent sun and not the original source, (although there do not seem to be any plants in Antarctica).
There is no “apparent” Sun. Only the single, actual Sun is observed, exactly where it should be. The only explanation is… The Earth is a globe. It’s as simple as that.
@@Sqort-em7or there is only one sun. Every observer has their perspective relative to them. For example Polaris is a gold example. If will appear lower when you walk away from. Lowering in your perspective by 1 degree every 69 miles you move away
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology Interesting. That math is exactly what a globe Earth predicts. 1 degree of curvature every 69 miles for a circumference of approximately 24,850 miles.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmologyEstas olvidando que Polaris debe ser la estrella más alta en el firmamento. Por ende, en una Tierra plana nunca se vería cerca del horizonte.
yeah this model is stupid and makes no sense. I think they are lying and those two FEs are controlled opposition. But the truth will come out at some point anyway. it could have been done this summer in the northpole and they are releasing it now. The earth is flat, no doubt. They cannot fool me.
No. The sun is refracting on the reflective dome around the regions of Antarctica. It's really awesome. Watch his videos to understand. #FlatEarthforever.
assuming that the Sun is a "flashlight" that points its photons in a single direction. If this projection took the real Sun, we would see multiple suns...
@@rasta4eye480Assuming this is the case: 1) they have the equipment to know if it is a "projected sun" or the Sun as it is; 2) at some point two suns must be seen: the real one, seen in the north, and the "projected" one, seen in the south (if the sun can be projected on the supposed dome being on the opposite side of the world, even more so must be seen from the front); 3) Differences in the size of the projection should be perceived depending on the distance from the real Sun (something that does not happen, obviously). 4) The Midnight Sun is not seen exclusively where the TFE equipment is located, but in almost all of Antarctica: looking at it from a flat Earth perspective, the Midnight Sun is seen throughout the Antarctic Circle, therefore the Sun must be projected everywhere. addresses. If the Sun manages to do that, it will also be able to do it along the supposed dome, with which we would see suns all the time from different points on the Earth...
The challenges were completely loaded questions. Duffy was like i need to see the measurement of the firmament curvature, how about Duffy shows us a measurement of the earths curvature
@@jd1677 He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km. He is obviously a scammer trying to sell e-books, as you can see in his youtube and facebook page.
He asked because the participant gave actual numbers for the firmament, so he is only checking the source of those numbers (which he took from the so claimed radius of the earth). But why can't you show measurements of the firmament? A very common question we see is "show measurement of the curve", so why the question "show measurements of the firmament" is not endorsed by you?
@@wideotekatwilight Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
JESUS MAN!! YOU SHOULD BE IGNORED, CAUSE YOU USED GLOBE MATH!! IT WAS PROVEN TO YOU!! YOU WERE NOT THROWN AWAY< CAUSE DUFFY SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING... FE ENTRY WILL BE ACCEPTED :d
@@willdavis5636 please tell me the names of the controllers. Not some broad agency or entity, but actual people. You people are losers who just want to feel like you have special information that others don't know about
What? Sorry but this does NOT prove FE, and I'm a flat earther. This is embarrassing. It could ONLY work if a person was standing at one spot on the ice wall, and seeing the sun make a little local circle around him, not going dark while the sun is way over 1000s of miles on the other side of the fe.
@rzella8022 So, you all were wrong. Plenty of us tried to warn you. It is an apparent sun. Nothing is physical. It is a projection of the "real sun" that circles in the 2d ecliptic plane around the black hole, which is in the perfect center of the vortex at the N Pole. This is why ancients said, "Only one sun, but seen in many places." The two magnetic fields (n hemisphere and s hem) are like two ring magnets that separate (n winter) and come closer (s winter) over the course of a year. Tomb of Ellumination has been putting out the truth for 7years now, but because his pedagogy is challenging, ppl wrote him off. Imo, he's been right since day one, and this further proves it.
Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?
@@BrickWilbur2020 They are lying to you, this is the explanation. Both this channel and this Alonzo guy is pushing courses, e-books and apps through a series of distorted lies about TFE. He was the only FE submitter for the 3 FE predictions challenges, so he "won" the Flat Earth submissions. He used globe numbers (like radius) in his submissions, btw. And 3 globers won the 3 globe predictions challenges. As my other comments states: "Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?" "He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km."
@@guidourados Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
@Anontesla hello What wrong have I done ? I love many of Flat Earth people and Know. What You want to say ? And For sure awakening (some sort of demonic thing which is not Biblical) , yoga , astrology - these things are demonic.
Grasping at those straws huh? Look closer. Ask yourself does this actually work? Don't just take this because it reaffirms your belief. He's feeding you just what you want to see.
@JeepinReefer406 For 7 years now, every observation I already knew, and then new ones I'd personally discover match Tomb's model. Hanby also recently made a visual representation of exactly what Tomb has been saying FOR YEARS. Tomb's pedagogy may be convoluted at times, but it is understandable for sure. I'm gobsmacked that so many people think this realm should be fully explained in a couple of twitter- ready sentences. The whole system is more complex than that, with multiple layers of factors all converging to create the phenomena we see as the apparent sun inside our personal "arc of horizon," as Tomb of Ellumination calls it, or our "personal dome of vision," as DITRH calls it, or simply our "azimithal grid of vision" as mainstream science calls it. This is exactly why ppl were upset with Jeran for not understanding that the 24-hour sun, after Dec. 21 has already been expected by a good chunk of us in the FE community. The only ppl who FEEL like this is grasping at straws are the ones who were wrong. Some of us feel vibdicated, especially because we were poo-pooed in the ridiculous run-up to this false dichotomy of an "experiment."
@@joanmargaret4899 not sure what you are saying here. Nothing has been vindicated by this model. It's literally the same model that flat domed earthers have been spouting. The stars don't work how we see them, and the sun doesn't act this way.
Weird. So there is one big sun circulating on a plane earth and one small one locally? Or what this the physics behind it, please elaborate or refer me to a qualified link. Thanks.
@@Alex-d3b4d I'm the developer of the model. The large Sun is the only physical Sun located at the Solar Zenith. As it shines through the Firmament dome refraction causes us to see all celestial objects through our own perspective. Everyone sees objects different. So if we plotted multiple observers there would be two smaller Suns. Just like Polaris and how it's declination is 1 degree every 69 miles we move away from it despite its physical altitude never changing.
It's because it's an apparent reflection of the sun behind a super fluid medium below the reflective dome. That's why the Antarctica sun always looks so much different than the sun observed anywhere else.
@Flat_Works that's possible. I did that experiment in my kitchen with my children in the glass bowl. .. But also think it's highly possible that those guys just sold themselves out. And when Jaren came on that video he didn't look like somebody who was humbled he looked like somebody who was lying.. just my opinion right now it could be wrong
Yeah, sure, that was totally predicted. How many different suns do you see at Antarctica? People actually think this is real? Hilarious. Btw: what is this huge light in the middle where we currently have 24h of darkness?
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology How exactly does the light manage to light up Antarctica while it doesn't light up a lot of Earth between the sun and Antarctica? At 0:45 for example the sun is pretty much on the other side of the Earth from the observers in Antarctica. There is a direct line between the sun and the observer that goes over areas that currently experience 24h of darkness. How can one sun illuminate something on the other side of Earth while keeping the middle in the dark?
Agree. And it does not show the FIXED 24 hour sun of the globe model. We now have time laps video and testimony of the sun circling a stationary earth. FE confirmed.
If a local sun rotates 24 hours a day over the place in Antarctica where the TFE team is located, three things happen: 1) In Chile and Argentina they never have a Sun at its zenith at noon. Something that is false at this time of the year. 2) It would be nighttime, 24 hours a day in North America, Europe, Asia and Africa and 3) In the rest of the Antarctic "circle" it would be nighttime, although in reality, they are also seeing the SAME Sun, at the SAME time, for 24 hours.
The globe earth completely done by this. And now the last straw: The globe earth, using a proper scaled model, cannot have a 24 hours Sun anywhere: ruclips.net/video/R96llz3K9As/видео.html The diagram is in 10:58 of the video. It is from a book written by flat earther Albert Smith in the 19th century. To be able to see a 24 hours Sun in the globe earth, the Sun would need to rise to position Q in the diagram, but since the globe earth model puts the Sun's Zenith in the Summer solstice in point F, that could take the role of either Capricorn or Cancer Tropic (since in the globe the observer is considered to be at the top of the globe), it is clear that the observer, that would be at point M, would have to look down and through the physical dimensions of the earth to actually see the Sun at midnight in both hemispheres, which is a complete impossibility.
@@jd1677 I find it amusing globetardia claims to have sent a space probe to the sun to confirm the physical ball of fire nuclear fusion or whatever fiction you want to call it to explain your beliefs 🫡 touché
@@permafreemanshow4317 "Your floor will always be flat, water finding its level and no curvature can be detected" Repeating your lies doesn't make them true. If there was no curvature, we could see much further than we actually can.
You need to watch some of his other videos….he MEANS his FE model. He proved that a 24 hour Antarctic sun IS possible on FE. But if you’re still thinking about the sun simply being seen as it traverses around the tropic lines….it at first doesn’t seem to fit. Do a little more investigation 😁
Thanks for the feedback. I made the video and Joe is using it with permission from me. I will make sure to lower the audio is the next one. Sometimes the Latin music becomes too enjoyable for me and I forget its louder than should be.
So what was the average AIRSPEED of the 4hour flight from Chile to Union Station?? Spinning Globe ----> -53 degrees latitude at Chile, South America ----> 780mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 780mph with the GROUND there in Punta Arenas??) Spinning Globe ----> -80 degrees latitude at Union Station, Antarctica ----> 180mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 180mph with the GROUND there at Union Station??) So the Airport at Union Station is supposed to PHYSICALLY be moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....than the Airport at Punta Arenas only 4hours away. How does an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West....then fly dead South towards an Airport and snow and mountains moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....and even be able to land?? How do you SLOW DOWN an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West...to a mere 180mph to the West...so it can line up with the Airport runway moving 180mph to the West (600mph SLOWER) than the one it took off from just 4hours earlier???? Please tell everyone how this is possible in the real world. I mean if you really were on a spinning ball in Punta Arenas moving 780mph to the West...on the runway before take off....and 4 hours away dead South was another runway moving 600mph SLOWER.....and you take off get up to say 500mph and keep that speed.......oh dear Lord this has now gone into the realm of Make Believe. Can anyone from TFE please tell me how to make this work in the real world??
“Dr” David. I didn’t get a chance to see the flight on FR24. Do you have the flight number? How long did the flight take? If the distance from Punta Arenas is approximately 1870 miles, then simple division should do quite nicely for an approximation of the average speed. Allowing for ascent and descent would be even better.
Some people just doesn't have a brain for physics. Yes, the air has basicly the same speed as the ground, otherwise you would constantly experience wind. The air plane has always a certain velocity relative to the air. Yes, it does slows down its westward speed. (by the way, this is an acceleration of 600 mph / 4h = 0.73 inches/sec² ..damn freedom units... or 0.0185 m/s²... or 0.0019 g ) But imagine this: You have a giant pool (lets say 10 meters (30 feet) in radius), that is rotating at 10 rpm ( so, the rim has a speed of about 10 m/s ). Would a swimmer, that starts from the center, would have trouble to reach a ladder on the edge of the pool?
Thank you for your work. A couple questions I got: 1) How is that Sun doesn’t hide over the horizon when viewed from the farthest point of the circle? 2) What is your take on pre-Copernican (Ptolemaic) Armillary sphere? Have a blessed day!
Is this a parabolic dome reflection? Repeating along the great circle with the west to east ? Very impressive illustration. Perhaps you can draw the LINE showing the path direction from the SUN source of light?
That's great news well done,I have been wondering if this location is actually where they say it is as Vanson Mountain was named after a scientist. You can see a 24-hour Sun in December in places located within the Arctic Circle, such as northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Alaska, and parts of Canada. New Subscriber!
This doesn't explaina nything. Why would an observer in Antartica, see the, that is above Mexico, in the opposite direction as a sun above China, even tho they woul be in the same direction of the observer? It is basicly the same angle of incidence.
It is summer in the Antarctic. Means sun is in Capricorn while following the ecliptic in the sky. These two factors should make up the main parameters on the movement of the sun in your animation. Correct me if am wrong but the sun I. Your animation is way below Tropic of Capricorn.
And they will confirm the Sun is exactly where the model shows them. This is called the Solar Zenith and the latitude and longitude is easily verified.
Flat-Earth prediction? Really? Point me to where I can hear a flerf who predicting the altitudes of the Sun above the horizon with corresponding times. I’ll wait. LMAO! 🤣
@@jd1677 Walter Bislin’s model in 2017 was the first animated model to predict it. A model made by a globe proponent to try and falsify FE. The guy who made the video of this post is a flat earther who won all 3 of Will Duffy’s TFE challenges. He’s also the developer of the firmament trackers app that predicts the phenomenon as well.
@@josephhanvey5891 And I hope this doesn’t get me banned, but I’d still like to hear the explanation of how an equatorial mount works on a flat Earth, particularly South of the equator. A video would be super awesome for flat-Earth astronomers.
@ I’m planning on doing that one night soon. However it’s quite simple. They demand the earth be horizontal. There is no other way for them to work properly without a horizontal plane of reference to wrap a grid system around.
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What is the mechanism that determines that the sun is going to do 24hr appearance... Why is the 24hr behavior not seen at the equator?
This is how flat earthers have always been: they try to explain a phenomenon and end up getting everything else wrong. For some reason it was disproved centuries and centuries ago...
@@sarlanga1991🤣🤣🤣 centuries ago EVERY group of people had their OWN Flat map. Joe's model shows everything. THE GLOBE IS DEAD
It's too far away from the firmament to make a reflection
I love the breaking of physics that has to go here for this work....hense why Walter Bislin who created this says he made it to show how stupid and impossible light has to bend to make it
😂😂😂😂😂😂 yet you believe in the ridiculous bending of space time and NEVER PROVEN gravity. You need 95% of "dark energy" and "dark matter"- also NEVER been proven, to make your ridiculous spinny waterball flying through space model
@@briancash1405 " yet you believe in the ridiculous bending of space time and NEVER PROVEN gravity." Still not true that gravity has never been proven but I know flat Earthers love to repeat lies. I guess weight isn't a thing in your world but that's ok.
"You need 95% of "dark energy" and "dark matter"- also NEVER been proven, to make your ridiculous spinny waterball flying through space model" Again: not true. We had the model of our solar system long before thinking of Dark Matter. Dark Matter is just our best guess for some anomalies we found in the universe. Not knowing everything doesn't mean things don't work. By your logic humans weren't able to breath before we discovered oxygen.
I think you guys are pretty funny though. The globe can't be true because of things you don't understand or misunderstand but a flat Earth is fine although it literally needs magic. Something as simple as a sunset doesn't make sense on a flat Earth. I know, some of you try perspective but everyone who knows how perspective works, knows it doesn't make things disappear from the bottom up.
You guys even fail to see the irony in your "we see too far" attempts. It's the other way around: we don't see far enough far a flat Earth.
@briancash1405 I don't need any of those things and never claimed them. Also earths a globe measurably and the sun in Antarctica proves it
OMG, this is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Wow, you guys really were dropped on your head as kids
This matches all of their observations.
😂😂
Ad hominem attack from globe worshiper. Again.
Sorry i dont understand your comment youtube doesn't translate hebrew
@JournalofGeocentricCosmology
What is the reflective surface and why don't we see 2 Suns when the reflection is south of Antarctica?
Can you please explain not only how we observe the "sun," but also how we feel the heat and get sunburn, etc., with an apparent sun model. Also, plants seem to also react to the apparent sun and not the original source, (although there do not seem to be any plants in Antarctica).
There is no “apparent” Sun. Only the single, actual Sun is observed, exactly where it should be.
The only explanation is… The Earth is a globe. It’s as simple as that.
@@jd1677No its flat and these people are lying. It could be that they are at the northpole. I dont trust any or them. someone is lying here.
So is that Sun a duplicate Sun, or is it THE Sun? I'm confused by the bit where there are TWO Suns joined by a piece of string. How does that work?
@@Sqort-em7or there is only one sun. Every observer has their perspective relative to them. For example Polaris is a gold example. If will appear lower when you walk away from. Lowering in your perspective by 1 degree every 69 miles you move away
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology
Interesting. That math is exactly what a globe Earth predicts. 1 degree of curvature every 69 miles for a circumference of approximately 24,850 miles.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmologylol, liar
Simplemente no funciona. No tiene sentido.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmologyEstas olvidando que Polaris debe ser la estrella más alta en el firmamento. Por ende, en una Tierra plana nunca se vería cerca del horizonte.
How can one travel through the dome to end up being under it?
yeah this model is stupid and makes no sense. I think they are lying and those two FEs are controlled opposition. But the truth will come out at some point anyway. it could have been done this summer in the northpole and they are releasing it now. The earth is flat, no doubt. They cannot fool me.
In a soul
What happened to the dome?
So this model assumes 2 suns? Just curious..
No. The sun is refracting on the reflective dome around the regions of Antarctica. It's really awesome. Watch his videos to understand. #FlatEarthforever.
@@rasta4eye480 It's complete BS.
assuming that the Sun is a "flashlight" that points its photons in a single direction. If this projection took the real Sun, we would see multiple suns...
@@rasta4eye480Assuming this is the case: 1) they have the equipment to know if it is a "projected sun" or the Sun as it is; 2) at some point two suns must be seen: the real one, seen in the north, and the "projected" one, seen in the south (if the sun can be projected on the supposed dome being on the opposite side of the world, even more so must be seen from the front); 3) Differences in the size of the projection should be perceived depending on the distance from the real Sun (something that does not happen, obviously). 4) The Midnight Sun is not seen exclusively where the TFE equipment is located, but in almost all of Antarctica: looking at it from a flat Earth perspective, the Midnight Sun is seen throughout the Antarctic Circle, therefore the Sun must be projected everywhere. addresses. If the Sun manages to do that, it will also be able to do it along the supposed dome, with which we would see suns all the time from different points on the Earth...
The challenges were completely loaded questions. Duffy was like i need to see the measurement of the firmament curvature, how about Duffy shows us a measurement of the earths curvature
@@kingovredcar3090 I'm Steven. I was still able to show my math for why the Flat Earth model is accurate.
Will you share it with everyone, please?
@@jd1677 He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km. He is obviously a scammer trying to sell e-books, as you can see in his youtube and facebook page.
@@guidouradosI was referring to Steven’s math.
He asked because the participant gave actual numbers for the firmament, so he is only checking the source of those numbers (which he took from the so claimed radius of the earth). But why can't you show measurements of the firmament? A very common question we see is "show measurement of the curve", so why the question "show measurements of the firmament" is not endorsed by you?
Why are the sun and moon circling the Pacific?
If they were doing that, how would they be observing a 24 hour Sun in Antarctica and no Moon?
The Sun and Moon circle above our Flat Earth.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology But why does this model have them circling over the Pacific? Don’t they circle the North Pole?
Is this a debunk or a bunk? I'm getting confused :-))
Epic footage by Dave. It will live forever.
Definitely debunks flat-Earth. They made no “predictions”. lol
@@pwmiles56 this has confirmed the Flat Earth model.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology MODEL DO NOT EXIST!! AE MAP IS DEAD!! TFE JUST DEBUNKED IT :d
@@wideotekatwilight Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
@@wideotekatwilightWhat they are proving is everyone has their own personal ferment...?!?
Superb visualization thank you very much. Now I understand why they pick this timing to go down there it was all set up but the controllers.
"The controllers" please provide evidence of this other than "trust me bro." List the controllers, name them.
What an ignorant statement! If someone has to ask who the controllers are it's pointless even continuing with them. Good luck smart guy@@MotownModels
JESUS MAN!! YOU SHOULD BE IGNORED, CAUSE YOU USED GLOBE MATH!! IT WAS PROVEN TO YOU!! YOU WERE NOT THROWN AWAY< CAUSE DUFFY SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING... FE ENTRY WILL BE ACCEPTED :d
@@willdavis5636 please tell me the names of the controllers. Not some broad agency or entity, but actual people. You people are losers who just want to feel like you have special information that others don't know about
What? Sorry but this does NOT prove FE, and I'm a flat earther. This is embarrassing. It could ONLY work if a person was standing at one spot on the ice wall, and seeing the sun make a little local circle around him, not going dark while the sun is way over 1000s of miles on the other side of the fe.
They are standing at one spot
@rzella8022 So, you all were wrong. Plenty of us tried to warn you. It is an apparent sun. Nothing is physical. It is a projection of the "real sun" that circles in the 2d ecliptic plane around the black hole, which is in the perfect center of the vortex at the N Pole. This is why ancients said, "Only one sun, but seen in many places." The two magnetic fields (n hemisphere and s hem) are like two ring magnets that separate (n winter) and come closer (s winter) over the course of a year. Tomb of Ellumination has been putting out the truth for 7years now, but because his pedagogy is challenging, ppl wrote him off. Imo, he's been right since day one, and this further proves it.
Cool how flat earth won all 3.
Please explanation needed
Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?
@@BrickWilbur2020 They are lying to you, this is the explanation. Both this channel and this Alonzo guy is pushing courses, e-books and apps through a series of distorted lies about TFE. He was the only FE submitter for the 3 FE predictions challenges, so he "won" the Flat Earth submissions. He used globe numbers (like radius) in his submissions, btw. And 3 globers won the 3 globe predictions challenges.
As my other comments states:
"Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?"
"He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km."
@@guidourados Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
@@FlatWater588 Part of the lie it is! U go on and do your mega job my man, scam the rest of this community, sell the app, e-books, push everything.
Joseph”s sun count is rightfully jumping like a 🦘 lol amen
This also explains the apparent view of rainbows
Are there 2 suns. And Does it's reflection have sun spots . The Light is So bright and it cannot replicate or mirror sun spots.
Earth is a Globe
No, it’s not that is funny as hell Spark you need to look into it for real or watch the awakening of Owen Benjamin best of luck hope you wake up
@Anontesla hello What wrong have I done ?
I love many of Flat Earth people and Know.
What You want to say ?
And For sure awakening (some sort of demonic thing which is not Biblical) , yoga , astrology - these things are demonic.
Yes!! I was so sick of hearing from the ppl who were dissappointed. I'm thrilled!!!!
Grasping at those straws huh? Look closer. Ask yourself does this actually work? Don't just take this because it reaffirms your belief. He's feeding you just what you want to see.
@JeepinReefer406 For 7 years now, every observation I already knew, and then new ones I'd personally discover match Tomb's model. Hanby also recently made a visual representation of exactly what Tomb has been saying FOR YEARS. Tomb's pedagogy may be convoluted at times, but it is understandable for sure. I'm gobsmacked that so many people think this realm should be fully explained in a couple of twitter- ready sentences. The whole system is more complex than that, with multiple layers of factors all converging to create the phenomena we see as the apparent sun inside our personal "arc of horizon," as Tomb of Ellumination calls it, or our "personal dome of vision," as DITRH calls it, or simply our "azimithal grid of vision" as mainstream science calls it. This is exactly why ppl were upset with Jeran for not understanding that the 24-hour sun, after Dec. 21 has already been expected by a good chunk of us in the FE community. The only ppl who FEEL like this is grasping at straws are the ones who were wrong. Some of us feel vibdicated, especially because we were poo-pooed in the ridiculous run-up to this false dichotomy of an "experiment."
@JeepinReefer406 Tomb of Ellumination vindicated and unfalsified again.
@@joanmargaret4899 not sure what you are saying here. Nothing has been vindicated by this model. It's literally the same model that flat domed earthers have been spouting. The stars don't work how we see them, and the sun doesn't act this way.
Very cool 🤩👍
Reality is becoming clearer and more fascinating with every factual observation. It's cool as sh*t to be alive right now.
Weird. So there is one big sun circulating on a plane earth and one small one locally? Or what this the physics behind it, please elaborate or refer me to a qualified link. Thanks.
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@@Alex-d3b4d I'm the developer of the model. The large Sun is the only physical Sun located at the Solar Zenith. As it shines through the Firmament dome refraction causes us to see all celestial objects through our own perspective.
Everyone sees objects different. So if we plotted multiple observers there would be two smaller Suns.
Just like Polaris and how it's declination is 1 degree every 69 miles we move away from it despite its physical altitude never changing.
Is not the real sun that's why it looks fake and glitchy
It's a reflection off the dome at that angle.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology And a billion observers would generate a billion smaller Suns?
It’s a house of mirrors
The sun in that video looks kind of fake and glitchy sometimes. Maybe just cuz it's a time-lapse
We will be getting more footage. The background mountains absolutely everyone's live streams.
Is a reflection of the real sun, nada knows that that's why they don't upload to many videos on their website about the antarctic 24 hrs sun,
It's because it's an apparent reflection of the sun behind a super fluid medium below the reflective dome. That's why the Antarctica sun always looks so much different than the sun observed anywhere else.
@Flat_Works that's possible. I did that experiment in my kitchen with my children in the glass bowl. ..
But also think it's highly possible that those guys just sold themselves out.
And when Jaren came on that video he didn't look like somebody who was humbled he looked like somebody who was lying.. just my opinion right now it could be wrong
@No1LikeYahuah I’ve watched it several times in 4K and see no glitching whatsoever.
Yeah, sure, that was totally predicted. How many different suns do you see at Antarctica? People actually think this is real? Hilarious.
Btw: what is this huge light in the middle where we currently have 24h of darkness?
Only one Sun. The smaller equatorial grids show the observer perspective.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology How exactly does the light manage to light up Antarctica while it doesn't light up a lot of Earth between the sun and Antarctica? At 0:45 for example the sun is pretty much on the other side of the Earth from the observers in Antarctica. There is a direct line between the sun and the observer that goes over areas that currently experience 24h of darkness. How can one sun illuminate something on the other side of Earth while keeping the middle in the dark?
Agree. And it does not show the FIXED 24 hour sun of the globe model. We now have time laps video and testimony of the sun circling a stationary earth. FE confirmed.
You are being manipulated.
If a local sun rotates 24 hours a day over the place in Antarctica where the TFE team is located, three things happen: 1) In Chile and Argentina they never have a Sun at its zenith at noon. Something that is false at this time of the year. 2) It would be nighttime, 24 hours a day in North America, Europe, Asia and Africa and 3) In the rest of the Antarctic "circle" it would be nighttime, although in reality, they are also seeing the SAME Sun, at the SAME time, for 24 hours.
@@JeepinReefer406 And you're daft enough to think that a 93 million miles sun can circle the earth in 24 hours.
The globe earth completely done by this. And now the last straw: The globe earth, using a proper scaled model, cannot have a 24 hours Sun anywhere: ruclips.net/video/R96llz3K9As/видео.html
The diagram is in 10:58 of the video. It is from a book written by flat earther Albert Smith in the 19th century. To be able to see a 24 hours Sun in the globe earth, the Sun would need to rise to position Q in the diagram, but since the globe earth model puts the Sun's Zenith in the Summer solstice in point F, that could take the role of either Capricorn or Cancer Tropic (since in the globe the observer is considered to be at the top of the globe), it is clear that the observer, that would be at point M, would have to look down and through the physical dimensions of the earth to actually see the Sun at midnight in both hemispheres, which is a complete impossibility.
Where exactly is the proper scale? It shows a tiny sun close to Earth. The sun is huge in very far away.
they forgot add neon color near horizont . which itself debung this tosh . poor effort from witsit and daffy
This is absolutely ridiculous. The sun is not even following the map anymore. You got it all over the place. Stop with your lies and accept defeat
I find it to be amusing, although it’s a bit worrisome that anyone would actually buy into it. 😂🤨
Your floor will always be flat, water finding its level and no curvature can be detected 🤷
@@jd1677 I find it amusing globetardia claims to have sent a space probe to the sun to confirm the physical ball of fire nuclear fusion or whatever fiction you want to call it to explain your beliefs 🫡 touché
@@permafreemanshow4317 "Your floor will always be flat, water finding its level and no curvature can be detected" Repeating your lies doesn't make them true. If there was no curvature, we could see much further than we actually can.
You need to watch some of his other videos….he MEANS his FE model. He proved that a 24 hour Antarctic sun IS possible on FE. But if you’re still thinking about the sun simply being seen as it traverses around the tropic lines….it at first doesn’t seem to fit. Do a little more investigation 😁
Love it, but music is always too loud:(
Thanks for the feedback. I made the video and Joe is using it with permission from me. I will make sure to lower the audio is the next one. Sometimes the Latin music becomes too enjoyable for me and I forget its louder than should be.
So what was the average AIRSPEED of the 4hour flight from Chile to Union Station??
Spinning Globe ----> -53 degrees latitude at Chile, South America ----> 780mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 780mph with the GROUND there in Punta Arenas??)
Spinning Globe ----> -80 degrees latitude at Union Station, Antarctica ----> 180mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 180mph with the GROUND there at Union Station??)
So the Airport at Union Station is supposed to PHYSICALLY be moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....than the Airport at Punta Arenas only 4hours away.
How does an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West....then fly dead South towards an Airport and snow and mountains moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....and even be able to land??
How do you SLOW DOWN an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West...to a mere 180mph to the West...so it can line up with the Airport runway moving 180mph to the West (600mph SLOWER) than the one it took off from just 4hours earlier????
Please tell everyone how this is possible in the real world. I mean if you really were on a spinning ball in Punta Arenas moving 780mph to the West...on the runway before take off....and 4 hours away dead South was another runway moving 600mph SLOWER.....and you take off get up to say 500mph and keep that speed.......oh dear Lord this has now gone into the realm of Make Believe.
Can anyone from TFE please tell me how to make this work in the real world??
Do you realize Wolf Packs flight would have traveled over North America on its way to Santiago in flerfland?
You sound like someone who has never seen an airplane, let alone ridden in one
“Dr” David. I didn’t get a chance to see the flight on FR24. Do you have the flight number? How long did the flight take? If the distance from Punta Arenas is approximately 1870 miles, then simple division should do quite nicely for an approximation of the average speed. Allowing for ascent and descent would be even better.
@@MotownModels who, the “dr”?
Some people just doesn't have a brain for physics.
Yes, the air has basicly the same speed as the ground, otherwise you would constantly experience wind.
The air plane has always a certain velocity relative to the air.
Yes, it does slows down its westward speed. (by the way, this is an acceleration of 600 mph / 4h = 0.73 inches/sec² ..damn freedom units... or 0.0185 m/s²... or 0.0019 g )
But imagine this:
You have a giant pool (lets say 10 meters (30 feet) in radius), that is rotating at 10 rpm ( so, the rim has a speed of about 10 m/s ).
Would a swimmer, that starts from the center, would have trouble to reach a ladder on the edge of the pool?
Thank you for your work. A couple questions I got: 1) How is that Sun doesn’t hide over the horizon when viewed from the farthest point of the circle? 2) What is your take on pre-Copernican (Ptolemaic) Armillary sphere? Have a blessed day!
What is the horizon? the limit of our vision, is it physical or just optical?
Is this a parabolic dome reflection? Repeating along the great circle with the west to east ? Very impressive illustration. Perhaps you can draw the LINE showing the path direction from the SUN source of light?
That a few times they’ve already said that they don’t know where the original source light for the sun is it’s outside of the firmament we believe
That's great news well done,I have been wondering if this location is actually where they say it is as Vanson Mountain was named after a scientist.
You can see a 24-hour Sun in December in places located within the Arctic Circle, such as northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Alaska, and parts of Canada.
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…name a city in the northern hemisphere that you can see a 24h sun during December. I think you mean 24hrs of no sun?
sun glitches out too much in the timelapse
Maybe because is a reflection of the real sun?
It's a 60 second timelapse but they have over 100TB so terabytes of data they are bringing back. Can't upload it all from Antarctica.
This doesn't explaina nything.
Why would an observer in Antartica, see the, that is above Mexico, in the opposite direction as a sun above China, even tho they woul be in the same direction of the observer?
It is basicly the same angle of incidence.
And At That Last Portion we have to observe then 2 suns at that point in Antarctica, so why not seen ?
Is this Walter Bislin's model?
No, this is the 2024 Firmament Trackers model. You are thinking of the outdated 2017 Walter Bislin model.
Hahahahahaha. This must be a joke.
It is summer in the Antarctic. Means sun is in Capricorn while following the ecliptic in the sky. These two factors should make up the main parameters on the movement of the sun in your animation.
Correct me if am wrong but the sun I. Your animation is way below Tropic of Capricorn.
Sun is not in Capricorn right now. Sun will be moving out of Sagittarius into Capricorn soon. Tropic of Capricorn is not Capricorn.
This guys attempt is not as good as your attempt Joe.
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Flat earth confirmed thanks will.
Except when you ask somebody where the sun is on the other side of the country at the same time of the day. Fail. Model falsified.
And they will confirm the Sun is exactly where the model shows them. This is called the Solar Zenith and the latitude and longitude is easily verified.
Flat-Earth prediction? Really? Point me to where I can hear a flerf who predicting the altitudes of the Sun above the horizon with corresponding times. I’ll wait. LMAO! 🤣
@@jd1677 Walter Bislin’s model in 2017 was the first animated model to predict it. A model made by a globe proponent to try and falsify FE.
The guy who made the video of this post is a flat earther who won all 3 of Will Duffy’s TFE challenges. He’s also the developer of the firmament trackers app that predicts the phenomenon as well.
@@josephhanvey5891 Is this the guy who used globe Earth mathematics in his solutions?
@@josephhanvey5891 And I hope this doesn’t get me banned, but I’d still like to hear the explanation of how an equatorial mount works on a flat Earth, particularly South of the equator. A video would be super awesome for flat-Earth astronomers.
@ I’m planning on doing that one night soon.
However it’s quite simple. They demand the earth be horizontal. There is no other way for them to work properly without a horizontal plane of reference to wrap a grid system around.
@ Awesome. That should be interesting. I don’t have all the gear you do, but have been an on again, off again amateur astronomer for 44 years.
Not nearly enough explanation by OP. I'm a Flerfer, the graphics are quite obv BS, law of perspective completely ignored.
Nice one.
Hercules Hercules!!!
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