@@thepope2412 the morning Star glitch is weapon merging you take the critical hit multiplier of the morning star in infected on different weapons so you can get very well Max damage numbers displayed on critical hits with something like a pimpernel
Man, I wish this gun had any function. Gearbox took away the only thing it had going for it because they didn't bother with fixing the merging glitch. Great content, keep making these community patch updates :D
Can't help it, but I think the Evil Smasher should fire two projectiles per shot (at the cost of two ammo) as it already has two barrels anyway. Should give it more "In your face!" even without the procc. The special effect just would be the icing on the cake, not its sole main feature.
Zivi3 I do pimphab too or at least used to all the time on the 360 but I always play local. Only time I’d play online is to goof off with friends. Now I play on PC and recently been playing melee zero.
@@HiHelloHi oh well. They are just probably playing alone or with friends. I am playing with my girlfriend, and we don't open lobby cuz we play in our own pace, you know. Once I accidentally opened the lobby to public, someone joined, started running somewhere, killing everyone, taking quests which we haven't even read yet. But leveling and unlocking OP levels is pain in the ass. After completing TVHM It took us about 50 hours of AFK farming the Sanctuary dummy to get lvl80. And then we started unlocking OP... It took 3 evenings to unlock OP8, but that was our limit. With purple guns the whole run took almost 2 hours, like, the two Scorches alone are taking 5-10 minutes to kill... So we had to ask for help from random peoples. Unfortunately the guy who helped us was using modded weapons, which he then started to give away. I took them to look polite, but then I dropped them when he left. So as you can see from our experience - apart from being helped with OP10, randoms joining usually bring chaos or cheats to your game.
I like how this gun was suposed to be a joke but they made it overpowered by accident. It was so dumb, you could even combine all the glitches. Crit merging, infinite ammo and Evil Smasher.
This weapon was supposed to be a bag of hot garbage. You go through the quest, Kai is a bit of a dick to pandorans, and Marcus gives him a terrible gun and sends him to his death. You don't realize this until you pick up the weapon and find it to be terrible, and some of us got the joke. However, gearbox decided that they shouldn't actually make an intentional terrible gun (although they obviously made a few). They gave it a unique effect that won't appear on the card, keeping the joke alive, but was powerful enough to make up for how weak it normally is. Then there was the glitch, and everything had to be reworked. That's basically the whole story. It's supposed to suck. Like a dirt devil. Or the vacuum of space. Making it proc more often would be the only justifiable way to respect the original intent and yet buff a terrible weapon. Edit: fixed a typo.
There's a Grognozzle-like skill that pops up above your exp bar when the effect activates with the patch applied. You got rid of the effect a lot this video.
I must say that in certain parts of this video, especially in the first few minutes, you actually confused Axton's Onslaught and Metal Strom kill skills with the Evil Smasher's special effect.
See, I enjoyed using the gamebreaking glitches because I'm a bad player. It made it fun for me. The other thing is, those who chose not to use them, could still avoid using them and remove anybody who did from their server. At this point though, most of the people playing are either streamers, solo players, or small groups of friends. Having the glitches available is not a problem. Say, for example, you don't want to do a glitch. You can play 100% of the game without the glitch, and not ever worry about. For those of us unskilled enough to go without them, including other people is less fun than becoming an overpowered hunk... This is the exact same reason I don't play above op4 with any of my op8 characters. I can, but I don't want to. Same goes for glitches. You can, but if you don't want to, nobody is making you.
IMHO the buff is so powerful it's hard to fully grasp how big it is, because it tears down enemies so quickly. Just watch the last part of the H3RL3 fight, it went down like a Lead Zeppelin
I feel a purple rarity would be better to use over this still, the purple has better stats across the board all the time. I'm glad that this weapon was made impotent.
Ways they could have fixed the Evil Smasher without nerfing it to hell 1. Remove Merging 2. Made the Evil Smasher effect 1 in 5 (and maybe 4 in 5 that it will happen again to make it keep the bonuses if you proc'd the effect.) 3. maybe fix the servers so that if someone was using the Combination of Bee Smasher or Conference Bee at the early part of borderland's Life Span they would have a mark.
Honestly I think one of the biggest things I love the most about this community patch farming wise is not only the drop rates but it fixes that bullshit glitch with hyperius where if he kills you and you respawn his health bar is still on screen and you’re locked out of his arena forcing you to savequit and go through half the washburne refinery again. I bore hyperius so it isn’t always gonna be a kill for me and for times I’d die to him before I found out how to apply the patch it would be so vexing to see his health bar and a red unpullable lever. Everytime that happened it would kill my courage to play the game. Feels great that I don’t have to worry about possibly being locked out of his arena whenever I die to him now that I can apply the patch.
Wish they would apply the damm patch to the console version of the game. Now I just read that I don't even know if I wanna deal with that bullshit. It's not fair.
This gun would be much cooler IMO if you get the special effect 100% guaranteed by hitting all of your shots or killing an enemy with your last clip. Especially with the latter, it could snowball into being a truly powerful rifle that is skill-based rather than luck-based.
I'm still partial to the Ogre and Seeker myself! Not had good RNG farming perfect Rock rifles... Non save edited file, running to get eridium over and over was too much for me! I'd also recommend the Slippery prefix. Dps wise it out performs or at least matches other damage accessories, has no accuracy penalty and the projectiles move faster!
I can see why it was patched, but I think it's also a piss take that raid bosses are set to make either play co op or run a specific character with a specific build using a cheap tactic zero/bore/ca on hyperius. If raid bosses were more reasonably balanced and not a controller smashing experience for a solo player. Glitches like the evil smasher glitch would not have been so heavily abused. Some of us just don't particularly want to play multiplayer thanks. I love playing boarderlands but I absolutely detest the way the game is balanced to try and essentially stomp on you until you give in and find people to help you beat certain bosses because they are so ridiculously hard to beat in ultimate vault hunter mode/op.
Solo players dont like it very much when they patch exploids like such....cuz its like being forced to play with others when one doesnt want to, but has to in order to experience it all...i tried to go againts the dragons and all the invincibles, and its just sad that you cant have none being a lonewolf.!!!!
As an advocate for a weapon still held in high regard for a glitch, the less glitches that are in this game, the better. Most of the people still playing this game regularly probably do so because they don't abuse glitches, therefore there's more to do, there's more enjoyment in doing what they enjoy, and more dedication to the magic of Borderlands 2. More or less, I agree. I'm glad the glitch is gone. Next is damage swap, Salvador offhand and fixing the Bee completely. But that won't happen.
Jakob Jakobovski The Lyuda, Pimpernel, Bekah, Sandhawk and Fibber (to name a few) still work with it because of unlisted pellets. So no, it's not fixed.
def much more worth using in normal and tvhm, where you're less likely to die as quicky. YOu can mess around more and play with the special effect. I personally love using it with krieg and getting bloodlust stacks maxed out so I have a billion shots of pure concentrated insta kill lmao
Okay, for newer players who want to kick ass early in the game, this can still help you. Just delete the update from your console. This is 2019 and I’m still using the glitch. I kill teramorphis in less than 1 second. First thing I do is delete the update, then I work on the glitch. The glitch does not stack. You have to keep doing the glitch until your game begins to lag. Takes about 20 to 45 minutes of glitching. I destroy everything and I mean everything when I reach the level that I want.
I really don't get what they were thinking with that one, honestly. Sure, it got nerfed because of the glitch but it should've been somewhat apparent that you cannot just considerably nerf the only thing that makes a weapon actually good and leave all the penalties on it.
Hacked BARs are mostly seen on op8lv characters, to counter the artificial difficulty and abundance of dogshit for weapons and loot we get, BARring the meta of anything + bee, sandhawk this, interfacer or CC that or just the goddamn pimpernel which is not a sniper, it's a rocket launcher gone wrong! *As you have to shoot the enemies in the feet/dick to get the most out of it.*
Don't think they should of fixed it. Was they way to beat raid bosses with out randoms taking EVERTHING. I don't like playing with randoms with friends yes, but random people that would take down a boss together would ninja everthing good. Had it happen to many times...
Instead of fixing the merging glitch, they just destroyed a unique weapon.
PureLSD they did patch that though
It was never good lol back then it was only used for the glitch. If you tried to use it as a regular weapon it was still bad
@@thepope2412 Nope otherwise the morning Star glitch would have never existed
@@Yes_Indeed-w7t I don’t know anything about the morning star glitch but weapon merging was patched
@@thepope2412 the morning Star glitch is weapon merging you take the critical hit multiplier of the morning star in infected on different weapons so you can get very well Max damage numbers displayed on critical hits with something like a pimpernel
Man, I wish this gun had any function. Gearbox took away the only thing it had going for it because they didn't bother with fixing the merging glitch. Great content, keep making these community patch updates :D
It says a lot when 2 of the best kill skills in the game can't make a weapon strong.
Senou Natsuru or even able to kill a normal enemy haha
Can't help it, but I think the Evil Smasher should fire two projectiles per shot (at the cost of two ammo) as it already has two barrels anyway. Should give it more "In your face!" even without the procc. The special effect just would be the icing on the cake, not its sole main feature.
The evil smasher is like silence the voices but the opposite
Now lobbies are filled with norfleet spam, modded badass rank, bee hawk and people just trying to get carried through the peak
HiHelloHiNo why have a carry when rocket jumping exists.
Zivi3 I do pimphab too or at least used to all the time on the 360 but I always play local. Only time I’d play online is to goof off with friends. Now I play on PC and recently been playing melee zero.
What's bad with people asking to be carried through the peak?
@@DarkN3r0 because no one does anything else in the matchmaking servers on ps4
@@HiHelloHi oh well. They are just probably playing alone or with friends. I am playing with my girlfriend, and we don't open lobby cuz we play in our own pace, you know. Once I accidentally opened the lobby to public, someone joined, started running somewhere, killing everyone, taking quests which we haven't even read yet.
But leveling and unlocking OP levels is pain in the ass. After completing TVHM It took us about 50 hours of AFK farming the Sanctuary dummy to get lvl80. And then we started unlocking OP... It took 3 evenings to unlock OP8, but that was our limit. With purple guns the whole run took almost 2 hours, like, the two Scorches alone are taking 5-10 minutes to kill... So we had to ask for help from random peoples. Unfortunately the guy who helped us was using modded weapons, which he then started to give away. I took them to look polite, but then I dropped them when he left.
So as you can see from our experience - apart from being helped with OP10, randoms joining usually bring chaos or cheats to your game.
I like how this gun was suposed to be a joke but they made it overpowered by accident. It was so dumb, you could even combine all the glitches. Crit merging, infinite ammo and Evil Smasher.
The evil smasher does double damage against bandits, a bit of the reason it's damage stat is so horrible.
Please take a look at the buffed infection
The evil smasher has my favorite weapon skin in the game personally so I'm upset that it sucks that the weapon got nerfed into the ground so hard
As someone who mainly played solo in BL2 I thought using the glitches like the evil smasher glitch was fun, it was a sad day when they patched it.
The special effect could be on at all times with a nerfed dps imo.
HostileRaccoon then just put the buffed stats on the card, otherwise you just get a Fibber 2
BackInBlack_4896 yeah!
This weapon was supposed to be a bag of hot garbage. You go through the quest, Kai is a bit of a dick to pandorans, and Marcus gives him a terrible gun and sends him to his death. You don't realize this until you pick up the weapon and find it to be terrible, and some of us got the joke.
However, gearbox decided that they shouldn't actually make an intentional terrible gun (although they obviously made a few). They gave it a unique effect that won't appear on the card, keeping the joke alive, but was powerful enough to make up for how weak it normally is. Then there was the glitch, and everything had to be reworked.
That's basically the whole story. It's supposed to suck. Like a dirt devil. Or the vacuum of space. Making it proc more often would be the only justifiable way to respect the original intent and yet buff a terrible weapon.
Edit: fixed a typo.
Exactly this comment ^^ says it all ...
It went from Not sucking to sucking to not sucking as much
At least it gives an activation icon at the bottom when it's active now
I would always use the ogre as my go to torgue assault rifle
Salvador: Bee and two conference call :D lol
I reckon it would've been a good idea to make the special effect more common when reloading from 0 than reloading from 19.
There's a Grognozzle-like skill that pops up above your exp bar when the effect activates with the patch applied. You got rid of the effect a lot this video.
I must say that in certain parts of this video, especially in the first few minutes, you actually confused Axton's Onslaught and Metal Strom kill skills with the Evil Smasher's special effect.
now all you see online are glitched bars :(
You still making videos here in 2018, is making me want to get back into the game.
See, I enjoyed using the gamebreaking glitches because I'm a bad player. It made it fun for me. The other thing is, those who chose not to use them, could still avoid using them and remove anybody who did from their server. At this point though, most of the people playing are either streamers, solo players, or small groups of friends. Having the glitches available is not a problem. Say, for example, you don't want to do a glitch. You can play 100% of the game without the glitch, and not ever worry about. For those of us unskilled enough to go without them, including other people is less fun than becoming an overpowered hunk... This is the exact same reason I don't play above op4 with any of my op8 characters. I can, but I don't want to. Same goes for glitches. You can, but if you don't want to, nobody is making you.
IMHO the buff is so powerful it's hard to fully grasp how big it is, because it tears down enemies so quickly. Just watch the last part of the H3RL3 fight, it went down like a Lead Zeppelin
I feel a purple rarity would be better to use over this still, the purple has better stats across the board all the time. I'm glad that this weapon was made impotent.
You can also reload cancel the evil smasher to get the bonus faster
Ways they could have fixed the Evil Smasher without nerfing it to hell
1. Remove Merging
2. Made the Evil Smasher effect 1 in 5 (and maybe 4 in 5 that it will happen again to make it keep the bonuses if you proc'd the effect.)
3. maybe fix the servers so that if someone was using the Combination of Bee Smasher or Conference Bee at the early part of borderland's Life Span they would have a mark.
The only complaint I have about the buff is that it increases the mag size. Smaller mag=getting more reloads=more chances for special effect buff
i don't miss the glitch but i do miss the bee-call , it was so fun , the evil smasher glitch was fun as hell too
Honestly I think one of the biggest things I love the most about this community patch farming wise is not only the drop rates but it fixes that bullshit glitch with hyperius where if he kills you and you respawn his health bar is still on screen and you’re locked out of his arena forcing you to savequit and go through half the washburne refinery again. I bore hyperius so it isn’t always gonna be a kill for me and for times I’d die to him before I found out how to apply the patch it would be so vexing to see his health bar and a red unpullable lever. Everytime that happened it would kill my courage to play the game. Feels great that I don’t have to worry about possibly being locked out of his arena whenever I die to him now that I can apply the patch.
Wish they would apply the damm patch to the console version of the game. Now I just read that I don't even know if I wanna deal with that bullshit. It's not fair.
Urrr so baddddd
Laughable
Plebs
Wondering smasher buff could proc while gunzerking on your second weapon like the grog nozzle
This gun would be much cooler IMO if you get the special effect 100% guaranteed by hitting all of your shots or killing an enemy with your last clip. Especially with the latter, it could snowball into being a truly powerful rifle that is skill-based rather than luck-based.
I'm still partial to the Ogre and Seeker myself! Not had good RNG farming perfect Rock rifles... Non save edited file, running to get eridium over and over was too much for me!
I'd also recommend the Slippery prefix. Dps wise it out performs or at least matches other damage accessories, has no accuracy penalty and the projectiles move faster!
I can see why it was patched, but I think it's also a piss take that raid bosses are set to make either play co op or run a specific character with a specific build using a cheap tactic zero/bore/ca on hyperius. If raid bosses were more reasonably balanced and not a controller smashing experience for a solo player. Glitches like the evil smasher glitch would not have been so heavily abused. Some of us just don't particularly want to play multiplayer thanks. I love playing boarderlands but I absolutely detest the way the game is balanced to try and essentially stomp on you until you give in and find people to help you beat certain bosses because they are so ridiculously hard to beat in ultimate vault hunter mode/op.
😉 keep the vids pumping out
Even if it's not the best for normal builds, it does work out pretty well for Krieg players.
This could be pretty good with Krieg if you can activate the buff with Blood-Filled Guns at full power.
Solo players dont like it very much when they patch exploids like such....cuz its like being forced to play with others when one doesnt want to, but has to in order to experience it all...i tried to go againts the dragons and all the invincibles, and its just sad that you cant have none being a lonewolf.!!!!
As an advocate for a weapon still held in high regard for a glitch, the less glitches that are in this game, the better.
Most of the people still playing this game regularly probably do so because they don't abuse glitches, therefore there's more to do, there's more enjoyment in doing what they enjoy, and more dedication to the magic of Borderlands 2.
More or less, I agree. I'm glad the glitch is gone. Next is damage swap, Salvador offhand and fixing the Bee completely.
But that won't happen.
Chris the Flakker God the bee is fixed
Jakob Jakobovski The Lyuda, Pimpernel, Bekah, Sandhawk and Fibber (to name a few) still work with it because of unlisted pellets.
So no, it's not fixed.
Chris the Flakker God and it should stay that way
Chris the Flakker God no need to fix something that isnt a problem
Disagree, but to each their own.
def much more worth using in normal and tvhm, where you're less likely to die as quicky. YOu can mess around more and play with the special effect. I personally love using it with krieg and getting bloodlust stacks maxed out so I have a billion shots of pure concentrated insta kill lmao
man i wish my community patch....
Okay, for newer players who want to kick ass early in the game, this can still help you.
Just delete the update from your console. This is 2019 and I’m still using the glitch. I kill teramorphis in less than 1 second. First thing I do is delete the update, then I work on the glitch. The glitch does not stack. You have to keep doing the glitch until your game begins to lag. Takes about 20 to 45 minutes of glitching. I destroy everything and I mean everything when I reach the level that I want.
Eber Jimenez Do you have the Handsome collection or the disc copy of the game?
I'm waiting on videos for the wonderlust and the seeker myself, but mostly the seeker. It's better, but I dunno just how much better it is...
Love this rifle on axton with the patch
I really don't get what they were thinking with that one, honestly. Sure, it got nerfed because of the glitch but it should've been somewhat apparent that you cannot just considerably nerf the only thing that makes a weapon actually good and leave all the penalties on it.
I miss the evil smasher glitch that was so OP;)
Angel Maestas I don't like how it was used in open lobbies so much but I like how it has vastly improved longer speedruns like 1-op8
Damien W yeah it was fun while it lasted;)
Morningstar appears to be an option.
Yeah it is great for stacking ;)
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The community patch is applied on console?
it still works with the pistol it just doesnt stack anymore i just watched a video of someone getting a stack of 10 on the in-pistol!
Hacked BARs are mostly seen on op8lv characters, to counter the artificial difficulty and abundance of dogshit for weapons and loot we get, BARring the meta of anything + bee, sandhawk this, interfacer or CC that or just the goddamn pimpernel which is not a sniper, it's a rocket launcher gone wrong!
*As you have to shoot the enemies in the feet/dick to get the most out of it.*
take a shot every time he says 'Special effect'
How do you get the rock rifle?
Also I wish the BL2 patch was on Xbox 360
Dont you get "The Chosen One" from Marcus?
what is the community patch ?
I use bee dpuh Axton back than but I never joined people because I had my brother to play with
why need slug if you 1-shot most of the enemy?
Was it just me or does it shoot faster when you reload an empty mag? Or was that a skill? (I mean without its special effect)
That's going to be metal storm.
Man of Low Moral Fiber okay that's what i thought, don't really play axel
This is a weapon
ryanzwe We live in a society.
This is a comment
FullTimeSlacker This is a likeminded individual.
as opposed to without the patch
Gang weed.
30 mln damage per shot not bad for assault rifle.
Please make a does it suck video 2.0 about the skullmasher
Alright.
they traded evil smasher/infinity for beehawk and beeherald. so much better....
i did!! I stopped playing because they patched it! Pete and Hyp are next to impossible to kill!
Wouldn’t it be 3.0
Don't think they should of fixed it. Was they way to beat raid bosses with out randoms taking EVERTHING. I don't like playing with randoms with friends yes, but random people that would take down a boss together would ninja everthing good. Had it happen to many times...
Hey Manofmoralfiber so u have no morality that means you don't know what's right or wrong?
Gearbox fucked this weapon into Oblivion. Those were the days when every raid boss was playful when we wanted them to.
Do a salvador meme video
You should swap on and off until you get the smash, then the gun is pretty good
stop reloading on active effect!!!
Hi are here some people to play with me op8 on PC?
Lol, still bad
First
what if the buff is time based?