The housing crisis in major cities has gone absolutely insane. Everyone I know is close to their mid-30s and living with family, roommates, or a significant other, which is wonderful when it's what you CHOOSE to do. But it's incredibly frustrating when you HAVE to. I recently moved to the countryside with my family, but you just don't have the accessibility to things that major cities have. Thank you again for such an insightful video! I saw your current apartment tour and it's such a lovely space! ☺
I'm also an ex-city dweller 5Paris, then Brussels) who now is a happy "refugee" in the countryside. I live in a 3-bedroom, 150 sq.meters house with a 600 sq.meters garden, with a view to nearby forests and moutains, for the price of a small one-bedroom apartment, smaller than my living room, in some neighborhoods of Paris. As for the accessibility of things... yes, you cannot live where I live without a car (public transportation being both scarce and impractical), yes there are less commodities than in town but I've realized that I just didn't need most of them. I still have two supermarkets at a short five to ten-minute driving distance, and a good baker in the village, as well as a medical center with a physician, a physiotherapist and a lab for blood tests, X-rays, and scanner... the essential amenities. And we have a large enough shopping mall only 20 kms away if needed. And I've made more friends here in five years than during 25 years in my previous life. I now go to the cities only if I need to, and it's like being on another planet; there's no way I'd know leave "my" countryside (the real countryside, not a suburban town, fake-countryside fake-city).
@@paxundpeace9970 There are enough empty apartments in Paris. Here that's not a case of housing crisis but a case of people not from Paris, who can't afford living in Paris and accept all the living conditions. The average Parisian doesn't live like that and real Parisians don't even consider living like that.
People who choose to live in the countryside, don’t appreciate, understandably, the impact that is caused by the sector of the “urban” population, who currently, are moving to the countryside, not out of choice, but because they can’t afford anything else.
the problem is also not just the size but the quality like u said. some people might choose to live small, but if there’s mold, no toilet or other problems, thqt can be bad for health
We stayed in one of these tiny apartments via AirB&B for a week. This explains the extremely cramped, crooked and steep stairs to get to the room. I couldn’t imagine anyone really living in it for any length of time. Very interesting video.
I stayed in several of these when homelidays was around. one of them had a spiral staircase entrance that was like cave exploring making me claustrophobic (and Im just 5.5 foot tall and thin) but the location was good 4th ar near the subway
Whenever I'm starting to feel frustrated with the small amount of space I have I watch one of those videos about tiny apartments in Paris or Tokyo and then I feel so grateful for my 23sqm apartment in Germany. I have a small kitchen with two stovetops and a mini oven, a sofa that can be turned into a bed within seconds, a small fridge, some shelves, a drawer, a clothes rack, a small bathroom with a washer dryer and even a few houseplants
Well arent' you a F ray of sunshine?! PS: Nobody like a braggard! I bet people aren't lininhg up to pick you as a friend, but what else can you expect of the callous Germans?! Not tact or diplomacy, that's for sure!
Housing crisis in the last few years has gone insane. I'm in Australia, by miracle timing I bought my first home at the end of 2018, it was among the cheapest on the market in my city but it's solid and modern enough built in 2005. Currently spending 25% of my income on the mortgage payment, but if I am to instead rent this house today, the rent would take up about 60-70% of my income (I make slightly above median income). No bank would even think of giving a home loan to me to I try buying my house at it's current value, it's near doubled since I bought it. Had I not bought my house in 2018, my income level would only allows me to rent either a very small mouldy unit or studio apartment, or just one room of a shared house or apartment (forget buying, literally nothing within 50km of the city is in price range for my income), both options would still cost more than my current mortgage payments.
I'm french and I lived in Paris for 27 years. People are not forced to live in these appartments, they can choose to live in bigger places just outside paris for the same kind of rent. But they still want to live in Paris.
So… yes, they’re forced. Because they want to live in Paris - likely near their work, friends, family, but are obstructed from doing so by over-population, rich people with too-large spaces, and artificially inflated rents. If you can’t life in a decent amount of space for a decent amount of money in the place where you want to live then, yes, you’re forced to take what you can get or forced to leave where you want to live. Not complicated.
Yes, if you want to live in the centre of one of the most beautiful cities in the world, instead of in the suburbs, you will probably have to pay a fortune in rent!
@madnessintomagic Nope. If you want to live in a chambre de bonne in Paris, rather than in a studio a few miles away from Paris, that's a choice. As long as people will be willing to make that choice, rents won't go down!
Great video Lucile. I am a Californian who just visited Paris last week and I have been binge watching your vidoes since I got back home. I love how you have found your niche from a Travel Vlog channel to now Parisian Lifestyle channel.
Oh my, that is bad even at best of times, but I can't even begin to imagine what it must have been like during the Covid lockdown, when (in France) people had to stay in their flats and couldn't even go outside at all!! 😲 Totally clautrophobic... I would totally have gone insane.
In many US cities tiny apartments are becoming quite common. For example in Seattle on the US west coast, there are many new apartment buildings containing only 150-180 sq. ft (14-17 sq. meters) apartments. These apartments are studios with a small bathroom and some cooking facilities (1-2 element counter top stove, sink, small refrigerator, and most of the time a microwave). The bathroom is included in the apartment size. Such small studio apartments generally rent for $1,000 to $1,250 per month, but the rent can be quite a bit higher if the apartment is in a desirable location or has a nice view. This seems insane to me because when I was at university I rented a 50 square meter one bedroom apartment in Seattle with a water and mountain view for $95 per month and the utilities (water, electricity, heat) were included in the rent.
Gosh, I feel so lucky that I was too naive to know all this when I moved to Paris in 2007-2008. I sublet a big apartment for a year from an Algerian Archeology professor for all of 2007 for like 500 a month, and then in 2008 I ended up renting a room in Vincennes at the end of the 1 ligne for 300 a month. It wasn’t central Paris but only maybe 20 minutes on the train, and espresso was only 50 centimes there. I arrived thinking I would live in a dorm but got my dates wrong and so posted on the Craigslist about my situation and 15 people or groups wrote to say I could live with them. My French was terrible but I’m still friends with the people I lived with. I would totally pay 40,000 for 6 square metres in a maid’s chamber just so I could have somewhere to stay in Paris when I visit forever, bring my cat, and not worry about bedbugs.
I live in Tebriz and the standard normal apartment size in the city is around 100 m2 . Living in such circumstances as in Paris would be a total nightmare for me. God help you Parisians all with this housing crisis.
Interesting, in my building in Paris, the chambres de bonnes floors were empty for years and then the space was partitioned into 3 50-60 square meter apartments. My apartment is almost 60 square meters and has 1.5 bathrooms. The chambres de bonne above mine has views of the Eiffel Tower and is 70 square meters and the third is now part of a duple. apartment with access to the noble stairs.
I stayed several times with a friend who lived in Paris many years ago, in the 13th Arr. It was in a typical mid-19th century building, with a courtyard and no elevator. His apartment was actually reasonably sized and on a middle floor, but the kitchen was tiny and the bathroom microscopic and clearly tacked-on at some point so the residents wouldn't have to use the common bathroom in the hallway (and so the common bathroom could be incorporated into one or more of the subdivided apartments. There was also this odd hot water heater, so clearly the building had no steam or hot water, just cold running water (that may or may not have been original, not sure). It was a bit of an adjustment at first, especially the bathroom, but it wasn't so bad and I could see living there for a few years on a student or low wage worker's budget. I've certainly lived in "challenging" apartments when I was younger. And it's part of that whole La Boheme starving artist/student/worker experience. Years later, after he got married and moved into a larger and modern apartment in the banlieu with his wife, and I stayed with them several times, I actually kind of missed it, both the apartment itself and its location not far from central Paris. I'm not the sort of person who needs a lot of space or luxury to be comfortable, just a clean, well-heated, fairly quiet place, with some sort of view even if its of the building across the street and maybe some trees and sky if you stick your head out.
Wow this was very informative. I never knew about this and the history of those buildings. Thanks for sharing your insight. For sure subbed you because I really love come to visit Paris. Honestly I wouldn’t mind that a Airb&b option. That teacher is smart spending $450 for a month that’s cheap. I feel like for a cheap travel option it’s not bad considering that the other option is to get a hotel that will probably be $450 a week. So I think this wouldn’t be a bad temporary option
When I was young, i used to live in rented bedsits with shared bathrooms and kitchens, but this was a cheap way to live, and you wouldn't have bought the room as an individual unit, it would be solt as part of a flat or house. I'm in Scotland , housing here is in a terrible state - so expensive and hard to get. Then councils 3nd up housing homeless people in expensive bed and breakfasts which are of course paid for by the state.good for the landlords but no one else. The problem is not just in large cities - it' s country wide -but is probably at its worst in Edinburgh. Ive heard of working people living in the youth hostel, which is only meant to be temporary accommodation for travellers, and what you get is a bed in a dormitory. We're regressing to the nineteenth century. Landlords can make much more money by letting to holidaymakers and ( in the case of Edinburgh) festival performers than locals.
So interesting! I studied in Paris in 1989-90 and was crestfallen when I did not get the chambre de bonne I wanted in the 17th that was so beautiful and romantic. But I ended up renting a nice bedroom and bathroom in a large apartment right by Mo Corentin Celton for 1,800 FF/month. It worked out. Paris apartments are a passion for me. Every time I go to Paris, which is about once a year, I come home wanting to buy an apartment in Paris. I'm close to retirement now, and I think if I bought something in France, I'd be better off in Nice where it's warmer. Thanks for your research and for your excellent English!
@@nycp1969 I lived in a chambre de bonne in the 17th in ‘88 and ‘89. My balcony was larger than my room and in the warmer months I would put my mattress on it and sleep outside. Most of the other chambre de bonne’s were empty. There was one guy on my floor with whom I shared a Turkish toilet. Thankfully he kept it immaculately clean.
Longer, are you bonkers?? I never watch a video that's >5 mins long! If you can't spit it out in 5 mins or less, NOT INTERESTED! YT no longer requires 17 min to pay you so she will not get far in ca$h by making them longer!
I moved out of Warsaw - the capital of Poland, where housing prices is also very high. I bought a small flat in cash, and have 30 minutes by car or train to some bigger city, although there's also work around here. I just don't like the culture in smaller cities. I used to spend an hour up to 2 hours to get to work in Warsaw, so 30 minutes is not that bad in comparison.
@@languerouge5385 They aren't for the Parisians most of them earning enough to rent them or being granted the social housing (25% of the housing park), housing pension (17% of the Parisians), and the cheap apartments people get through their work. Those leaving Paris are those who can afford living in Paris.
если смотреть в России, то такие квартиры характерны для Москвы и Петербурга. В Петербурге до сих пор очень много коммуналок с комнатами по 10-20 кв.м. так что те, кто получил квартиры от государства со времен Хрущева очень повезло! у нас 58 кв.м. 3 комнаты
In Singapore, a tiny government-subsidized public housing apartment of 38metres square, a lease of 99 years (means u have to surrender the house back to government and its zero value after 99 years), is now priced at SGD150,000.00 ie Euro106,350.00 .. it is located at the far east north of the country, far away from the central of the country. If it is located nearer to the central of the country, the apartment of the same size will cost $300,000.00 ie Euro222,000.00 The above are new apartment and the wait time for it build is 4-5 years... It would be doubled the prices if it is resale, means you can buy it instantly (pre-owned)..
I lived in Thailand in 2022 and I found that my 250 sq ft studio apartment was really too big, lots of wasted space. My cousins in the 11e have a chambre de bonne and use it as an office. I thought at one time of asking them to let me rent it, but I didn't want them to feel obligated. But I'd live in 150 sq ft if that means I could live in Paris!
This is mainly typical of Paris I'd say. Lucile very correctly underlines in general renters are very privileged and protected under french law and each year more. This is compared to other countries. It has lead to the housingcrisis, tenants ( propriety owners) preferring to rent very shortterm air bn b instead of longterm. Law allows renters with the usual 3 year lease to leave with only 1 or 2 months notice. The owner however can only give notice for the date the lease is ending and only if it is to be sold or if he is going to live there himself. Unfortunately the maffioso " kitchen in shower bedsits" landlords in Paris don't reflect the overall misery of many otherones, more attentive to their renter's wellbeing ;-)
Ok there are 130 000 "chambres de bonnes" in Paris but only 50% are less than 9 m2 and there are 1 300 000 flats. Most of them are larger than 20 m2. And don't forget that 25% of parisian flats are social housing.
I was very interested to watch this video because I know that it’s concern as there are more heat waves in Europe - there’s no way to insulate one of these if it hasn’t been made larger, so it can get very, very hot next to the metal roof
Are these apartment's protected by the government against renovations? If not, what is stopping someone with a lot of money from buying 3 or 4 units and renovating them into 1 large unit and charging even more money for rent?
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I live in Madrid at the moment and the situation is getting worse each year. More and more people are moving to big European cities when there is actually a pretty incredible and effective solution we all tested during the pandemic called : remote work. So many companies exceeded their targets, so many people could move back to small towns and find better ways to balance work and their personal lives. Governments instead of giving large companies tax deductions for each employee that is hired with a remote contract decided instead to cooperate with this companies to stop this remote work from spreading. But I still believe it is the best way to stop gentrification.
This is happening in almost every city, including United States. It’s sickening and has to be dealt with globally. Everyone has the right to shelter and there is plenty to go around for all.
Landlords & rents should be strictly regulated. Even the best ones are still exploiting renters to pay their mortgages & pensions giving them both a capital investment and an income, and can force you to leave your home at any time.
Hmmm... As some that has moved cities a few times.. it's has its positives. If I'm there for a year for work and I can 'crash' for a month or two before moving..it's cheaper than a hotel. Even as a student before making friends, crash for 2 months then find a flat mate to share with
I lived in one as a student, other capital cities are too expensive for students. The problem are people renting them out less than 10m which is illegal.
I was there in Europe for months. The thing is- the people of Europe will pick something "prettier" in exchange for comfort and sensibility. The looks is an important part of life - especially in France.
Wow, you've been a few months on a continent of 10.5 million square kilometers and now you know how all these people from all these different countries and cultures are. Do you hear how ridiculous you sound? By the way, I can tell you you know nothing about Europeans based on your ignorant statement, so these few months haven't even taught you something valuable.
Fascinating! Great video. I am also more intrigued because the data you pulled is over 10+ years old! I can't imagine what more recent data says now the trend could be... worse!?
The key issue is that landmark status and protected sight lines don't allow to rebuild any higher. Most buildings can't be higher then 7 or 9 floors. While for a fact Paris needs far more city center housing being at least 12 to 18 floors high.
There's historically a limit of height of buildings in Paris. But our fucking mayor has chosen to ignore it with her delirious projects. NOT ANY PARISIAN want skycrappers and other "las vegas" gigantic pyramid style.
Highly interesting video! I was in Paris for a week in the summer. But I stayed in a luxury hotel near the Champs Elysées in the 8th arrondissement. The room (for me alone) on the 1st floor was very spacious. The bathroom was at least as big as a maid's room. What luck that my friend canceled AirBnB at the last minute! The apartment should be on the 6th floor - without an elevator, of course!
Thanks for this informative video. If Haussmann has an American equivalent it might be Robert Moses in NY. I don't know if he has apartments built, but he built most of the bridges and tunnels in NYC. He did a lot of good and bad, but had a great impact on the city to this day!
This building design is actually pretty ingenious. Created mixed housing is a major issue. Builders want the most money, so they tend to build the fancy apartments only, but you really need middle and working class people in cities and they need affordable housing. When they get priced out, you wind up with massive commuter communities, where poorer people who work in cities live far from them and have to spend hours commuting in. Which then leads to worker shortages. Which can then lead to a collapse of the city, since the rich people don't want to live there if there are no people to support the amenities they want. It's interesting to me that stairs made mixed housing de facto.
Thanks for this fascinating report. There are laws to stop Airbnb from going completely wild and making the real estate market even more exploitative, is that right?
Top floors for the lowest classes. Completely opposite now when buying a condo the higher up on the building, the more expensive (better views, quieter, no one above you making noise).
I really enjoyed this video, and this series for that matter, but the story about 23 people living in 54 square foot space is complete nonsense. If 23 people lived in 54 square feet, each person would have just about 2.35 square feet. This is less space than an average person occupies simply standing.
Maybe people sleep on a schedules, a day has 24h , so 8h for group A,8h for group b and 8h for group c with 7/8 people per group , one big bed on the floor, profit😢
Housing will always be more expensive in capitals and other major cities comparing to smaller cities and towns where you can buy or rent a bigger apartment with the same price or less.
Hey Lucille 👋 it's jamie, your buddy it's been a while. Happy holidays to you! And Bobby! I wanted to ask u how people in Paris are treated when they have a handicapped ♿️ problem 😕 or how they are treated in general ? There are all sorts of different handicappes, especially with wheel chairs can you do a video 📹 on that, please 🙏 i think a lot of people take that for granted. Just wanted to know your thoughts. Love ❤️ you, Lucille, your buddy jamie 😊
wondering if a foreigner could buy one of those unused spaces just big enough for a bed sink and a toilet for a yearly 3 - 4 months a year, maybe the yearly tax would be high
Lucille, thanks for sharing. I'm from Chicago, currently lives in NYC, lived temporarily intermittently in Paris and Montrouge for a few yrs... yrs ago. I need help trying to select the best spot for a retirement condominium in paris... im thinking around trocadero? Or 6th or 5th arr bc i love being around park like in in UES in NYC... can use more advice. Thanks!
I’d previously read that mansard roofs were additional square footage that was untaxed since they’re considered attics - thus even more lucrative for landlords. Can’t recall if this was for the US and Europe or just one of the two. I love a good mansard roof- but not when used to abuse rights. Regardless- thanks sm for your work; excellent video. - love from Humboldt Park (in Chicago)
Salut Lucile ! C'est drôle que t'es dis ça maintenant, parce que je vais venir à Paris dans quelques jours, mais mon école est à Cergy et le loyer d'un studio y est 700 d'euros, et ça fait 19 mètre carré, maintenant j'suis content que mon école soit ce n'est pas dans la ville de Paris. Btw im still learning french, donc j'suis désolé si j'ai fait des erreurs.
At least less hassle with cleaning up and such if your “apartment” is tiny. As long there’s enough space for a bed and a fridge it’s all goody I guess. If less is more, nothing is everything.
I live in Canada and in Vancouver there is a serious housing crisis and similar to Paris, there are a high percentage of dwellings unoccupied. I find it strange that this appears to be a global situation. Who owns all these empty dwellings?
00:55 Twenty three people cannot fit in a 55 sqft space. Also, this is not too small a size for one person to use as a bathroom by any architectural standard. My own bathroom is slightly less than this and I'm able to manage just fine.
One of my bathrooms is 6ft x 14ft. I could easily have in the same space: 1) a 6ft x 7ft (bathroom - toilet included), plus 2) a 6ft x 3.5ft sleeping pod with a dresser under, plus 3) a 6ft x 3.5ft kitchenette with a folding table. For 1 person is more than enough. Right now, I have a 1800 sf house and I'm a slave of a 25 years mortgage. So, unnecessary!
At least those Haussmann buildings are pretty on the outside. Here the pro-density zealots are letting developers tear down modest well built old houses to build those horrible 5-over-1s that are hideous, overpriced, and won't last twenty years. All with the lie that it will create "affordable housing" even though the shoddy new apartments cost more than the houses they replace.
@colleendemaio I'm enjoying the variety of comments in this thread. Can you translate please. What is a '5-over-1' development? Is this also in a European city? or US.
Maybe it’s better to do a collocation, studios are really just crazily expensive here in Paris😢 I personally live in a room of 11m2 in collocation on the second floor , which cost me 700€, 525€ after the caf, and I even know someone who live in collocation with 500€without caf. However the downside is that you need to tolerate your colocataires, not everyone loves cleanness 😂
Well, we can't know if your situation is right or wrong, cheap or expensive. We don't know the number of people in the apartment and the total area of the appartment (distinguishing private and collective rooms).
The housing crisis in major cities has gone absolutely insane. Everyone I know is close to their mid-30s and living with family, roommates, or a significant other, which is wonderful when it's what you CHOOSE to do. But it's incredibly frustrating when you HAVE to. I recently moved to the countryside with my family, but you just don't have the accessibility to things that major cities have. Thank you again for such an insightful video! I saw your current apartment tour and it's such a lovely space! ☺
They issue is that they don't allow building much higher then that. They would need 12 to 15 stories high buildings to cover demand.
I'm also an ex-city dweller 5Paris, then Brussels) who now is a happy "refugee" in the countryside. I live in a 3-bedroom, 150 sq.meters house with a 600 sq.meters garden, with a view to nearby forests and moutains, for the price of a small one-bedroom apartment, smaller than my living room, in some neighborhoods of Paris. As for the accessibility of things... yes, you cannot live where I live without a car (public transportation being both scarce and impractical), yes there are less commodities than in town but I've realized that I just didn't need most of them. I still have two supermarkets at a short five to ten-minute driving distance, and a good baker in the village, as well as a medical center with a physician, a physiotherapist and a lab for blood tests, X-rays, and scanner... the essential amenities. And we have a large enough shopping mall only 20 kms away if needed. And I've made more friends here in five years than during 25 years in my previous life. I now go to the cities only if I need to, and it's like being on another planet; there's no way I'd know leave "my" countryside (the real countryside, not a suburban town, fake-countryside fake-city).
@@paxundpeace9970 There are enough empty apartments in Paris. Here that's not a case of housing crisis but a case of people not from Paris, who can't afford living in Paris and accept all the living conditions. The average Parisian doesn't live like that and real Parisians don't even consider living like that.
@@jfrancobelge I'm considered a similar but less dramatic move, but why did make more friends?
People who choose to live in the countryside, don’t appreciate, understandably, the impact that is caused by the sector of the “urban” population, who currently, are moving to the countryside, not out of choice, but because they can’t afford anything else.
the problem is also not just the size but the quality like u said. some people might choose to live small, but if there’s mold, no toilet or other problems, thqt can be bad for health
We stayed in one of these tiny apartments via AirB&B for a week. This explains the extremely cramped, crooked and steep stairs to get to the room. I couldn’t imagine anyone really living in it for any length of time. Very interesting video.
Reason not to let ur self get weak and obese.
I stayed in several of these when homelidays was around. one of them had a spiral staircase entrance that was like cave exploring making me claustrophobic (and Im just 5.5 foot tall and thin) but the location was good 4th ar near the subway
Whenever I'm starting to feel frustrated with the small amount of space I have I watch one of those videos about tiny apartments in Paris or Tokyo and then I feel so grateful for my 23sqm apartment in Germany. I have a small kitchen with two stovetops and a mini oven, a sofa that can be turned into a bed within seconds, a small fridge, some shelves, a drawer, a clothes rack, a small bathroom with a washer dryer and even a few houseplants
Well arent' you a F ray of sunshine?! PS: Nobody like a braggard! I bet people aren't lininhg up to pick you as a friend, but what else can you expect of the callous Germans?! Not tact or diplomacy, that's for sure!
The real reason behind Haussmann's project: not just health, but mostly the fact that the larger the street, the harder it is to install blockades.
Housing crisis in the last few years has gone insane. I'm in Australia, by miracle timing I bought my first home at the end of 2018, it was among the cheapest on the market in my city but it's solid and modern enough built in 2005. Currently spending 25% of my income on the mortgage payment, but if I am to instead rent this house today, the rent would take up about 60-70% of my income (I make slightly above median income). No bank would even think of giving a home loan to me to I try buying my house at it's current value, it's near doubled since I bought it. Had I not bought my house in 2018, my income level would only allows me to rent either a very small mouldy unit or studio apartment, or just one room of a shared house or apartment (forget buying, literally nothing within 50km of the city is in price range for my income), both options would still cost more than my current mortgage payments.
I am glad you bought a house right on time before prices increased.
I'm french and I lived in Paris for 27 years. People are not forced to live in these appartments, they can choose to live in bigger places just outside paris for the same kind of rent. But they still want to live in Paris.
So… yes, they’re forced. Because they want to live in Paris - likely near their work, friends, family, but are obstructed from doing so by over-population, rich people with too-large spaces, and artificially inflated rents. If you can’t life in a decent amount of space for a decent amount of money in the place where you want to live then, yes, you’re forced to take what you can get or forced to leave where you want to live. Not complicated.
Chisle25, Are you just missing the point on purpose out of spitefulness?
Yes, if you want to live in the centre of one of the most beautiful cities in the world, instead of in the suburbs, you will probably have to pay a fortune in rent!
@madnessintomagic Nope. If you want to live in a chambre de bonne in Paris, rather than in a studio a few miles away from Paris, that's a choice. As long as people will be willing to make that choice, rents won't go down!
@chisle25 that's not how gentrification works. The second enough people move to the outskirts; the rich will increase the rest there also.
Great video Lucile. I am a Californian who just visited Paris last week and I have been binge watching your vidoes since I got back home. I love how you have found your niche from a Travel Vlog channel to now Parisian Lifestyle channel.
looks so stunning from the outside until you see what is it to be like on the inside,,,, truly claustrophobic living in there....
Oh my, that is bad even at best of times, but I can't even begin to imagine what it must have been like during the Covid lockdown, when (in France) people had to stay in their flats and couldn't even go outside at all!! 😲 Totally clautrophobic... I would totally have gone insane.
That’s it… tonight I’m putting our bed in our bathroom 😅
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please provide an update to your experience. :D
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In many US cities tiny apartments are becoming quite common. For example in Seattle on the US west coast, there are many new apartment buildings containing only 150-180 sq. ft (14-17 sq. meters) apartments. These apartments are studios with a small bathroom and some cooking facilities (1-2 element counter top stove, sink, small refrigerator, and most of the time a microwave). The bathroom is included in the apartment size. Such small studio apartments generally rent for $1,000 to $1,250 per month, but the rent can be quite a bit higher if the apartment is in a desirable location or has a nice view.
This seems insane to me because when I was at university I rented a 50 square meter one bedroom apartment in Seattle with a water and mountain view for $95 per month and the utilities (water, electricity, heat) were included in the rent.
$95 a month, free u's?? Yeah,. Right. You forgot to say the year was 1879!
@@1Channel1 Not quite that long ago. 1972
Gosh, I feel so lucky that I was too naive to know all this when I moved to Paris in 2007-2008. I sublet a big apartment for a year from an Algerian Archeology professor for all of 2007 for like 500 a month, and then in 2008 I ended up renting a room in Vincennes at the end of the 1 ligne for 300 a month. It wasn’t central Paris but only maybe 20 minutes on the train, and espresso was only 50 centimes there. I arrived thinking I would live in a dorm but got my dates wrong and so posted on the Craigslist about my situation and 15 people or groups wrote to say I could live with them. My French was terrible but I’m still friends with the people I lived with. I would totally pay 40,000 for 6 square metres in a maid’s chamber just so I could have somewhere to stay in Paris when I visit forever, bring my cat, and not worry about bedbugs.
That sounds great but why do you have such low standards for yourself?
I live in Tebriz and the standard normal apartment size in the city is around 100 m2 . Living in such circumstances as in Paris would be a total nightmare for me. God help you Parisians all with this housing crisis.
The plight of all cities: insanely expensive closet-sized homes you can barely turn your butt in.
The cities have become the ugly stepsisters.
Your content is getting so better every passing day
Interesting, in my building in Paris, the chambres de bonnes floors were empty for years and then the space was partitioned into 3 50-60 square meter apartments. My apartment is almost 60 square meters and has 1.5 bathrooms. The chambres de bonne above mine has views of the Eiffel Tower and is 70 square meters and the third is now part of a duple. apartment with access to the noble stairs.
I stayed several times with a friend who lived in Paris many years ago, in the 13th Arr. It was in a typical mid-19th century building, with a courtyard and no elevator. His apartment was actually reasonably sized and on a middle floor, but the kitchen was tiny and the bathroom microscopic and clearly tacked-on at some point so the residents wouldn't have to use the common bathroom in the hallway (and so the common bathroom could be incorporated into one or more of the subdivided apartments. There was also this odd hot water heater, so clearly the building had no steam or hot water, just cold running water (that may or may not have been original, not sure).
It was a bit of an adjustment at first, especially the bathroom, but it wasn't so bad and I could see living there for a few years on a student or low wage worker's budget. I've certainly lived in "challenging" apartments when I was younger. And it's part of that whole La Boheme starving artist/student/worker experience. Years later, after he got married and moved into a larger and modern apartment in the banlieu with his wife, and I stayed with them several times, I actually kind of missed it, both the apartment itself and its location not far from central Paris. I'm not the sort of person who needs a lot of space or luxury to be comfortable, just a clean, well-heated, fairly quiet place, with some sort of view even if its of the building across the street and maybe some trees and sky if you stick your head out.
It's not romantic, why do you set such low standards for yourself?
Wow this was very informative. I never knew about this and the history of those buildings. Thanks for sharing your insight. For sure subbed you because I really love come to visit Paris. Honestly I wouldn’t mind that a Airb&b option. That teacher is smart spending $450 for a month that’s cheap. I feel like for a cheap travel option it’s not bad considering that the other option is to get a hotel that will probably be $450 a week. So I think this wouldn’t be a bad temporary option
When I was young, i used to live in rented bedsits with shared bathrooms and kitchens, but this was a cheap way to live, and you wouldn't have bought the room as an individual unit, it would be solt as part of a flat or house. I'm in Scotland , housing here is in a terrible state - so expensive and hard to get. Then councils 3nd up housing homeless people in expensive bed and breakfasts which are of course paid for by the state.good for the landlords but no one else. The problem is not just in large cities - it' s country wide -but is probably at its worst in Edinburgh. Ive heard of working people living in the youth hostel, which is only meant to be temporary accommodation for travellers, and what you get is a bed in a dormitory. We're regressing to the nineteenth century. Landlords can make much more money by letting to holidaymakers and ( in the case of Edinburgh) festival performers than locals.
So interesting! I studied in Paris in 1989-90 and was crestfallen when I did not get the chambre de bonne I wanted in the 17th that was so beautiful and romantic. But I ended up renting a nice bedroom and bathroom in a large apartment right by Mo Corentin Celton for 1,800 FF/month. It worked out. Paris apartments are a passion for me. Every time I go to Paris, which is about once a year, I come home wanting to buy an apartment in Paris. I'm close to retirement now, and I think if I bought something in France, I'd be better off in Nice where it's warmer. Thanks for your research and for your excellent English!
@@nycp1969 I lived in a chambre de bonne in the 17th in ‘88 and ‘89. My balcony was larger than my room and in the warmer months I would put my mattress on it and sleep outside. Most of the other chambre de bonne’s were empty. There was one guy on my floor with whom I shared a Turkish toilet. Thankfully he kept it immaculately clean.
Anything I want to know about France this is the channel to watch.
Thank you!!
@@LucileHR Your channel is really great! Love from a German who has fallen in love with Paris.
Encore une fois, une présentation informative et instructive. Merci Bcp ...
I really enjoy your real-life videos. Feel free to make them longer, because they're fantastic. 😄 🇫🇷
Thank you!!
Longer, are you bonkers?? I never watch a video that's >5 mins long! If you can't spit it out in 5 mins or less, NOT INTERESTED! YT no longer requires 17 min to pay you so she will not get far in ca$h by making them longer!
I moved out of Warsaw - the capital of Poland, where housing prices is also very high.
I bought a small flat in cash, and have 30 minutes by car or train to some bigger city, although there's also work around here. I just don't like the culture in smaller cities. I used to spend an hour up to 2 hours to get to work in Warsaw, so 30 minutes is not that bad in comparison.
Is there a reason that someone wouldn't take like three of those tiny apartments and remove walls to make bigger?
If they had the money to do that wouldn't they just live in a larger place to begin with?
I never knew how small apartments there in Paris, France 🇫🇷 are these days. Thanks for sharing, Lucile, and I think Paris is a beautiful city! ❤
Thank you so much for being here :)
@LucileHR You're Welcome Lucile I enjoy your videos.
Most appartment are not that small. But there are expensives.
@@languerouge5385 They aren't for the Parisians most of them earning enough to rent them or being granted the social housing (25% of the housing park), housing pension (17% of the Parisians), and the cheap apartments people get through their work. Those leaving Paris are those who can afford living in Paris.
Similar to some Asian cities like Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore etc
Very informatively clear video with a bit of history. Loved it! Thank you!😊
если смотреть в России, то такие квартиры характерны для Москвы и Петербурга. В Петербурге до сих пор очень много коммуналок с комнатами по 10-20 кв.м. так что те, кто получил квартиры от государства со времен Хрущева очень повезло! у нас 58 кв.м. 3 комнаты
Can't believe how people get used to it 😕
Yes, sometimes because they don't have a choice :(
In Singapore, a tiny government-subsidized public housing apartment of 38metres square, a lease of 99 years (means u have to surrender the house back to government and its zero value after 99 years), is now priced at SGD150,000.00 ie Euro106,350.00 .. it is located at the far east north of the country, far away from the central of the country. If it is located nearer to the central of the country, the apartment of the same size will cost $300,000.00 ie Euro222,000.00
The above are new apartment and the wait time for it build is 4-5 years...
It would be doubled the prices if it is resale, means you can buy it instantly (pre-owned)..
I live in a tiny house (325 Square feet) in California, it feels spacious now! Also, I too can shower and cook at the same time
So interesting. Really enjoy your French culture videos.
I lived in Thailand in 2022 and I found that my 250 sq ft studio apartment was really too big, lots of wasted space. My cousins in the 11e have a chambre de bonne and use it as an office. I thought at one time of asking them to let me rent it, but I didn't want them to feel obligated. But I'd live in 150 sq ft if that means I could live in Paris!
Absolutely! There's many nice tiny apartments in Paris too!
Always great videos and so informative. Thanks again, from expensive London :)
This is mainly typical of Paris I'd say. Lucile very correctly underlines in general renters are very privileged and protected under french law and each year more. This is compared to other countries. It has lead to the housingcrisis, tenants ( propriety owners) preferring to rent very shortterm air bn b instead of longterm.
Law allows renters with the usual 3 year lease to leave with only 1 or 2 months notice. The owner however can only give notice for the date the lease is ending and only if it is to be sold or if he is going to live there himself. Unfortunately the maffioso " kitchen in shower bedsits" landlords in Paris don't reflect the overall misery of many otherones, more attentive to their renter's wellbeing ;-)
Very informative video! And also very interesting!
Ok there are 130 000 "chambres de bonnes" in Paris but only 50% are less than 9 m2 and there are 1 300 000 flats. Most of them are larger than 20 m2. And don't forget that 25% of parisian flats are social housing.
Less than 9m2 is forbidden by french law for living apartments. It's only legal for tourism renting.
I was very interested to watch this video because I know that it’s concern as there are more heat waves in Europe - there’s no way to insulate one of these if it hasn’t been made larger, so it can get very, very hot next to the metal roof
Are these apartment's protected by the government against renovations? If not, what is stopping someone with a lot of money from buying 3 or 4 units and renovating them into 1 large unit and charging even more money for rent?
Good video, your content is definitely getting a lot better with these video essays a bit like alice cappelle!
You greatly expanded my limited knowledge of the apartment situation in Paris, Lucile. Well researched report. Merci.
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haha love this!
@LucileHR Do the french live in small apartments? is it to save some space?
I live in Madrid at the moment and the situation is getting worse each year. More and more people are moving to big European cities when there is actually a pretty incredible and effective solution we all tested during the pandemic called : remote work. So many companies exceeded their targets, so many people could move back to small towns and find better ways to balance work and their personal lives. Governments instead of giving large companies tax deductions for each employee that is hired with a remote contract decided instead to cooperate with this companies to stop this remote work from spreading. But I still believe it is the best way to stop gentrification.
What a nightmare. It's a shame that authorities know about the loopholes and do nothing.
And also the Parisians not...
I am so used to the tininess of apartments in Paris that 9sqm does not even sound that crazy to me...
This is happening in almost every city, including United States. It’s sickening and has to be dealt with globally.
Everyone has the right to shelter and there is plenty to go around for all.
Landlords & rents should be strictly regulated. Even the best ones are still exploiting renters to pay their mortgages & pensions giving them both a capital investment and an income, and can force you to leave your home at any time.
The radiating grand boulevards were designed for military control of Paris. Artillery could isolate. districts.
Hmmm... As some that has moved cities a few times.. it's has its positives. If I'm there for a year for work and I can 'crash' for a month or two before moving..it's cheaper than a hotel. Even as a student before making friends, crash for 2 months then find a flat mate to share with
I lived in one as a student, other capital cities are too expensive for students. The problem are people renting them out less than 10m which is illegal.
I was there in Europe for months. The thing is- the people of Europe will pick something "prettier" in exchange for comfort and sensibility. The looks is an important part of life - especially in France.
Wow, you've been a few months on a continent of 10.5 million square kilometers and now you know how all these people from all these different countries and cultures are. Do you hear how ridiculous you sound? By the way, I can tell you you know nothing about Europeans based on your ignorant statement, so these few months haven't even taught you something valuable.
And 20% of appartments in Paris are empty, what a shame...
Fascinating! Great video. I am also more intrigued because the data you pulled is over 10+ years old! I can't imagine what more recent data says now the trend could be... worse!?
The key issue is that landmark status and protected sight lines don't allow to rebuild any higher. Most buildings can't be higher then 7 or 9 floors.
While for a fact Paris needs far more city center housing being at least 12 to 18 floors high.
It wouldn’t be Paris anymore, if the streets became endless sky high urban jungles
There's historically a limit of height of buildings in Paris. But our fucking mayor has chosen to ignore it with her delirious projects. NOT ANY PARISIAN want skycrappers and other "las vegas" gigantic pyramid style.
Almost no European wants that besides maybe the Brits
When location is important but you don’t have ridiculous money, this is what happens 😭
So much information. Great work
Interesting vid Luck thanks.
Highly interesting video! I was in Paris for a week in the summer. But I stayed in a luxury hotel near the Champs Elysées in the 8th arrondissement. The room (for me alone) on the 1st floor was very spacious. The bathroom was at least as big as a maid's room. What luck that my friend canceled AirBnB at the last minute! The apartment should be on the 6th floor - without an elevator, of course!
seems ITS BECAUSE so many wants to live there and not enough room is available
Thanks for this informative video. If Haussmann has an American equivalent it might be Robert Moses in NY. I don't know if he has apartments built, but he built most of the bridges and tunnels in NYC. He did a lot of good and bad, but had a great impact on the city to this day!
I live in a chambre de bonne hehe... but I am out almost all day and just come to sleep here sooo ça vaaa!
Yes! It's pretty normal here in Paris! :)
This building design is actually pretty ingenious. Created mixed housing is a major issue. Builders want the most money, so they tend to build the fancy apartments only, but you really need middle and working class people in cities and they need affordable housing. When they get priced out, you wind up with massive commuter communities, where poorer people who work in cities live far from them and have to spend hours commuting in. Which then leads to worker shortages. Which can then lead to a collapse of the city, since the rich people don't want to live there if there are no people to support the amenities they want. It's interesting to me that stairs made mixed housing de facto.
Thanks for this fascinating report. There are laws to stop Airbnb from going completely wild and making the real estate market even more exploitative, is that right?
Top floors for the lowest classes. Completely opposite now when buying a condo the higher up on the building, the more expensive (better views, quieter, no one above you making noise).
I really enjoyed this video, and this series for that matter, but the story about 23 people living in 54 square foot space is complete nonsense. If 23 people lived in 54 square feet, each person would have just about 2.35 square feet. This is less space than an average person occupies simply standing.
Maybe they aren’t there at the same time? 😅
Maybe people sleep on a schedules, a day has 24h , so 8h for group A,8h for group b and 8h for group c with 7/8 people per group , one big bed on the floor, profit😢
damn living on your knees just to live in Paris is wild
Very interesting Video !!! :D
Sometimes, just going out 10 miles from the city makes a big difference.
London has Tiny Apartments too.
Housing will always be more expensive in capitals and other major cities comparing to smaller cities and towns where you can buy or rent a bigger apartment with the same price or less.
Hey Lucille 👋 it's jamie, your buddy it's been a while. Happy holidays to you! And Bobby! I wanted to ask u how people in Paris are treated when they have a handicapped ♿️ problem 😕 or how they are treated in general ? There are all sorts of different handicappes, especially with wheel chairs can you do a video 📹 on that, please 🙏 i think a lot of people take that for granted. Just wanted to know your thoughts. Love ❤️ you, Lucille, your buddy jamie 😊
First and foremost, nobody is forced to live there. They choose to.
I thank you deeply ...
wondering if a foreigner could buy one of those unused spaces just big enough for a bed sink and a toilet for a yearly 3 - 4 months a year, maybe the yearly tax would be high
Quand j'étais étudiante à la Sorbonne je vivais dans une chambre de bonne et je travaillais pour une famille au deuxième étage:)
‘88 et ‘89
Fascinating video. ☮️
I had no idea people were legally required to live in Paris. I thought people lived there by choice. I learn more every day.
I’m claustrophobic. I couldn’t do that.
I understand you!!
Salut Lucile (c'est un beau nom en passant!)! Je viens de découvrir ta chaîne. Je m'abonne! Salut du Canada! 💖p.s. ton anglais est parfait!
Lucille, thanks for sharing. I'm from Chicago, currently lives in NYC, lived temporarily intermittently in Paris and Montrouge for a few yrs... yrs ago. I need help trying to select the best spot for a retirement condominium in paris... im thinking around trocadero? Or 6th or 5th arr bc i love being around park like in in UES in NYC... can use more advice. Thanks!
I’d previously read that mansard roofs were additional square footage that was untaxed since they’re considered attics - thus even more lucrative for landlords. Can’t recall if this was for the US and Europe or just one of the two. I love a good mansard roof- but not when used to abuse rights. Regardless- thanks sm for your work; excellent video.
- love from Humboldt Park (in Chicago)
You’re forgetting the most important thing: no matter how small the apartment is, you’re living in Paris. ❤
Salut Lucile ! C'est drôle que t'es dis ça maintenant, parce que je vais venir à Paris dans quelques jours, mais mon école est à Cergy et le loyer d'un studio y est 700 d'euros, et ça fait 19 mètre carré, maintenant j'suis content que mon école soit ce n'est pas dans la ville de Paris.
Btw im still learning french, donc j'suis désolé si j'ai fait des erreurs.
Ton français est super ! Bonne installation à Cergy :)
@LucileHR Merci beaucoup ! T'es trop gentille ! Aussi je pense que t'as déjà deviné mon école mdrr
L’ESSEC??
@@LucileHR Et voilà !! J'étudie sur leur campus à Singapour maintenant.
Je viendrai à Cergy pour mon 4ème semestre
At least less hassle with cleaning up and such if your “apartment” is tiny. As long there’s enough space for a bed and a fridge it’s all goody I guess.
If less is more, nothing is everything.
Thank you!!
No one is forcing you to live in the big cities. So much room, living space, cheap prices, in so many places that are not so popular.
I live in Canada and in Vancouver there is a serious housing crisis and similar to Paris, there are a high percentage of dwellings unoccupied. I find it strange that this appears to be a global situation. Who owns all these empty dwellings?
00:55 Twenty three people cannot fit in a 55 sqft space. Also, this is not too small a size for one person to use as a bathroom by any architectural standard. My own bathroom is slightly less than this and I'm able to manage just fine.
Thanks!
Wow thanks I had no idea about this. Paris is beautiful, I would gladly live in a tiny apartment if it was in Paris.
Take a drink every time she says "super".
Five times in the first 45 seconds. I gave up at that point.
Now I’m super drunk. Thanks
One of my bathrooms is 6ft x 14ft. I could easily have in the same space:
1) a 6ft x 7ft (bathroom - toilet included), plus
2) a 6ft x 3.5ft sleeping pod with a dresser under, plus
3) a 6ft x 3.5ft kitchenette with a folding table.
For 1 person is more than enough. Right now, I have a 1800 sf house and I'm a slave of a 25 years mortgage. So, unnecessary!
Good info
and we thought New York City was bad. That's brutal
great video
I live on a 27ft sailboat for a yearly cost of living around $3500. 🇸🇪🇪🇺
At least those Haussmann buildings are pretty on the outside. Here the pro-density zealots are letting developers tear down modest well built old houses to build those horrible 5-over-1s that are hideous, overpriced, and won't last twenty years. All with the lie that it will create "affordable housing" even though the shoddy new apartments cost more than the houses they replace.
@colleendemaio I'm enjoying the variety of comments in this thread. Can you translate please. What is a '5-over-1' development? Is this also in a European city? or US.
Maybe it’s better to do a collocation, studios are really just crazily expensive here in Paris😢 I personally live in a room of 11m2 in collocation on the second floor , which cost me 700€, 525€ after the caf, and I even know someone who live in collocation with 500€without caf. However the downside is that you need to tolerate your colocataires, not everyone loves cleanness 😂
Well, we can't know if your situation is right or wrong, cheap or expensive. We don't know the number of people in the apartment and the total area of the appartment (distinguishing private and collective rooms).