Neither of these 2 are plug and play players, they both need a rhythm, idk whats been going on this year but in rceent stretch, has the team had a game where both played well simultaneously?
It’s hilarious that jb Stan’s jump the moment when Tatum is having his worst stretch of the season but when it comes to Jaylen brown he’s been bad all season you guys are quiet
The good record is just fool's gold at this point. Anybody that's been paying attention to this team since December knows there's something wrong with the Celtics.
The best analysis Noa has made all season, about talking about Jrue and Derrick coming nowhere near, what they contributed last year. Yes, Tatum and Brown are the stars(or should be), but that's the biggest difference!
@@carolinadnm17 thank you! They consistently go at the stars(mainly Jaylen) but never talk about Jrue or Dwhite play. They have been playing bad this stretch (Jrue has been bad since the start) but Dwhite has been awful from 3 lately and the team won’t win games like that unless you’re getting big numbers from JT, JB, and KP and that hasn’t happened either.
@@jlee23442Nobody wants to go back to the days of watching the Jays having to do everything on offense to win games. DW and Jrue have to play better on offense.
Yk thats very true, they were best buddies and thats the guy brown actually likes to pass to, its been uncommon lately, but i also feel like they havent been sharing the floor as much
Joe's offense is predicated on 5 guys shooting 40% from 3, when that doesn't happen this is the result. It would be nice if Joe made adjustments (i.e. play guys who give effort, even if they're off the bench) but we all know he won't.
How does John say that he doesn't want to be gaslight by the guys saying everything is fine but then gets angry at Jaylen for saying he tweaked his ankle? I also don't think JB is some renegade who keeps it too real, he has PR answers too but he's just answering the question that was asked. We can use our discernment & assume that everyone is banged up this time of year BUT the ankle thing is a new development.
The defense is appalling. This isn't the nfl. When you out their you've gotta play offense and defense. I genuinely wouldn't mind if they just told these cats to sit out until they actually want to do what necessary to win.
John, you gotta start showing more respect for your boys (and girl). You go on these long tangents and then you look to chat and ignore Bobby and Noa and Jimmy then you try to play it off like you were paying attention. We know you're not lol. Stop looking for validation on your takes in chat and start listening to others
Count the passes last season in one possession now this season Tatum pounds the ball 12 seconds to shot a 3 which he always misses or brown pounds the ball makes a move then pump fake get stuck turnover… Last year there best play was a d white pick and roll that’s gone.. Tatum does a pick for a switch and does nothing with it Kp when he plays has been good that’s it. Joe has to stop catering to Tatum and force him to get his team involved that’s his game. It’s not shooting threes,It’s about drawing attention and then moving a ball.
How can he get the team involved when everyone is running their own offense?? There's a reason JT isn't getting a bunch of touches because there are stretches where everyone is going iso & that's not conducive to the team. It's on Joe to reign everyone in & point to ONE person to lead the show on the court.
Bobby clearly has a problem any point Noah makes he’s constantly combative until she agrees. He’s getting to the point to where his takes are all negative and wants to hammer a point. Jaylen doesn’t deserve this no matter what he says or does it gets thrown in his face to be attacked
Fans have to come the realization that this team is soft. They’re so bad at defending the paint and rebounding that it’s laughable. All the stars aligned last year. They won’t win another chip.
It’s going to come down to a couple games vs the Cavs and Knicks to get back to a chip. Celtics know that which explains their lack of regular season energy. Also sitting different guys each game is messing with chemistry.
They need to adopt a rounded place style that emphasizes the two point shots rebounding blocking out taking charges and anything to do with giving goes pick and rolls to the basket and circumventing the paint in the front court as much as possible to stay consistently getting free throws getting other teams in foul trouble in developing a toughness and better ball handling abilities and with the amount of talent and defensive pros they technically have this will improve and stabilize and eventually they’ll be able to blow out teams consistently, but the league has adapted and evolved to stop the three-point contest and the newness of Porziņģis and Holiday from their previous teams energy and learned this has fainted and they’ve adopted enough of this Celtics culture that there’s no more buffer between players. They’re one supporting cast of either failure or success and no one is going to really be able to pop out of the pack and unless they all changed ambitiously with a new system will play.
John face reality JT & JB regressed this season. ISO ball with JT is painful. It isn’t that JT is deferring to JB, JT is not a shooter but he really wants to be. Everyone knows the one dimensional iffense
Ik eye test matters, but did you know tatum was actually one of the most efficient and best iso players this year by the numbers? Jt is the only star i see put ip grenades at the end of shot clock, usually thats when its dished to a shooter for quick shot, he also takes annoying off the dribble shots. For jt to be his best, he needs to get downhill and playmake, and when it comes to 3’s, try and take more catch and shoots. Hes got this weird shot that reminds me of lebrons 3pt shot, where on tatums stepback its incredibly robotic and needs to have his feet set a certain way that makes it clunky, but on catch and shoots he can just pull it in rhythm and i think thats where he can excel at
It’s time for a new coach. The current philosophies on both sides of the ball don’t work. Also Jrue may need to be traded and the bunch is weak. The depth on this team is so so. Also AL needs to go as well.
@baylordevon he drops to the media what he wants so the media will talk about it. What he drops, doesn't mean its true. He is building himself bs excuses that gullible people will just lap up, and run to his defense.
This is what Brandon Jennings was talking about... Super soft to defer when everybody cries that your the engine of the celtics, top 5, best american player etc etc etc blah blah blah
Back to back rhen 1 day off then ANOTHER back to back....both with a OT game. Who wouldnt be COMPLETELY wiped out? There is alot that needs to improve but predictible.
Our offensive schemes are predictable and hasn’t changed since last yr teams have figured it out awhile ago so we should ADAPT & OVERCOME or we won’t repeat shit
They almost lost last night too, LeBron played harder than our superstars who are over a decade younger! LeBron brings it 100 percent every night as Kobe did for the Lakers, just as bird, and pierce did in their era for our Celtics, no reason why our superstars can't!
in the offseason, when the hawks win the 1st pick ywo years in a row, trade jb for the pick and get the rookie that dreams of playing for the celts: cooper flagg! BOOM!
Good noa takes!
We love NOA!
Noa is always great
Are yall ever going to talk about Tatums shooting in this stretch or is it just going to be about Jaylen every game?
Wish Jaylen would stop riding high off Tatum being a star. Tatum doesn’t get it any easier because teams never have to worry about Jaylen
Neither of these 2 are plug and play players, they both need a rhythm, idk whats been going on this year but in rceent stretch, has the team had a game where both played well simultaneously?
@@iguesssits painfully obvious but the jb stan club just cant handle it for some reason
It’s hilarious that jb Stan’s jump the moment when Tatum is having his worst stretch of the season but when it comes to Jaylen brown he’s been bad all season you guys are quiet
U must not be a regular on this show 😂😂😂 it’s Ben like this sense the bubble
The good record is just fool's gold at this point. Anybody that's been paying attention to this team since December knows there's something wrong with the Celtics.
Which is?
😂okay Daren
Roster overrated
If the starters are disinterested, play springer, Walsh, Queta
The best analysis Noa has made all season, about talking about Jrue and Derrick coming nowhere near, what they contributed last year. Yes, Tatum and Brown are the stars(or should be), but that's the biggest difference!
@@carolinadnm17 thank you! They consistently go at the stars(mainly Jaylen) but never talk about Jrue or Dwhite play. They have been playing bad this stretch (Jrue has been bad since the start) but Dwhite has been awful from 3 lately and the team won’t win games like that unless you’re getting big numbers from JT, JB, and KP and that hasn’t happened either.
@@jlee23442Nobody wants to go back to the days of watching the Jays having to do everything on offense to win games. DW and Jrue have to play better on offense.
Feel like I haven’t seen a Brown/KP pick n roll yet this season which they did so well last season
Jaylen Brown is only focusing on himself now
Yk thats very true, they were best buddies and thats the guy brown actually likes to pass to, its been uncommon lately, but i also feel like they havent been sharing the floor as much
I’m just happy that I got my first appearance on the garden report tonight
Joe's offense is predicated on 5 guys shooting 40% from 3, when that doesn't happen this is the result. It would be nice if Joe made adjustments (i.e. play guys who give effort, even if they're off the bench) but we all know he won't.
That's exactly the issue and he's dodging it
How does John say that he doesn't want to be gaslight by the guys saying everything is fine but then gets angry at Jaylen for saying he tweaked his ankle? I also don't think JB is some renegade who keeps it too real, he has PR answers too but he's just answering the question that was asked. We can use our discernment & assume that everyone is banged up this time of year BUT the ankle thing is a new development.
The defense is appalling. This isn't the nfl. When you out their you've gotta play offense and defense. I genuinely wouldn't mind if they just told these cats to sit out until they actually want to do what necessary to win.
JJ been studying joes offense way b4 he was the Fakers coach
Jayson was literally leading in the MVP race until Jaylen Brown decided he wants to be MVP too 🤯 now tatum barely gets touches and bail out shots
Gtfoh Tatum was terrible tonight just like the rest of the team it was a back to back they stunk stop blaming one person
Damn Brandon Jennings looking like Kendrick right now
😂Brandon who?
John, you gotta start showing more respect for your boys (and girl). You go on these long tangents and then you look to chat and ignore Bobby and Noa and Jimmy then you try to play it off like you were paying attention. We know you're not lol. Stop looking for validation on your takes in chat and start listening to others
Jimmy did a great job hosting the other night. Noa really pushed back on John's takes tonight and challenged his reasoning, I liked it.
Amazing, glad someone called John out
Count the passes last season in one possession now this season Tatum pounds the ball 12 seconds to shot a 3 which he always misses or brown pounds the ball makes a move then pump fake get stuck turnover… Last year there best play was a d white pick and roll that’s gone.. Tatum does a pick for a switch and does nothing with it Kp when he plays has been good that’s it. Joe has to stop catering to Tatum and force him to get his team involved that’s his game. It’s not shooting threes,It’s about drawing attention and then moving a ball.
How can he get the team involved when everyone is running their own offense?? There's a reason JT isn't getting a bunch of touches because there are stretches where everyone is going iso & that's not conducive to the team. It's on Joe to reign everyone in & point to ONE person to lead the show on the court.
@ I agree 2 out of the 3 season Joe offense has fail this team so far
John is 100% right JB gave the explanation he wants disseminated by media to fan base. It isn’t refreshing it is effective use of media
Bobby clearly has a problem any point Noah makes he’s constantly combative until she agrees. He’s getting to the point to where his takes are all negative and wants to hammer a point. Jaylen doesn’t deserve this no matter what he says or does it gets thrown in his face to be attacked
shehas a better understanding of the game than bobby.she's amazing! the best on the show.
Totally desagree
The Celtics been playing so bad, there’s finally tension on the cnls media postgame 🤣🤣
Fans have to come the realization that this team is soft. They’re so bad at defending the paint and rebounding that it’s laughable. All the stars aligned last year. They won’t win another chip.
They just look UNMOTIVATED that’s all
It’s going to come down to a couple games vs the Cavs and Knicks to get back to a chip. Celtics know that which explains their lack of regular season energy. Also sitting different guys each game is messing with chemistry.
They need to adopt a rounded place style that emphasizes the two point shots rebounding blocking out taking charges and anything to do with giving goes pick and rolls to the basket and circumventing the paint in the front court as much as possible to stay consistently getting free throws getting other teams in foul trouble in developing a toughness and better ball handling abilities and with the amount of talent and defensive pros they technically have this will improve and stabilize and eventually they’ll be able to blow out teams consistently, but the league has adapted and evolved to stop the three-point contest and the newness of Porziņģis and Holiday from their previous teams energy and learned this has fainted and they’ve adopted enough of this Celtics culture that there’s no more buffer between players. They’re one supporting cast of either failure or success and no one is going to really be able to pop out of the pack and unless they all changed ambitiously with a new system will play.
Totally agres
Your starting backcourt combines for 6 points. That's just hard to overcome.
Maybe let them run some offense instead of standing in the corner watching Brown self-destruct would help. Learn ball.
J Holiday...missing since last season
Fn truth. I said this 2 games ago and everyone in the comments acted like I said heil hitl....nvm 😂
John face reality JT & JB regressed this season. ISO ball with JT is painful. It isn’t that JT is deferring to JB, JT is not a shooter but he really wants to be. Everyone knows the one dimensional iffense
Ik eye test matters, but did you know tatum was actually one of the most efficient and best iso players this year by the numbers? Jt is the only star i see put ip grenades at the end of shot clock, usually thats when its dished to a shooter for quick shot, he also takes annoying off the dribble shots. For jt to be his best, he needs to get downhill and playmake, and when it comes to 3’s, try and take more catch and shoots. Hes got this weird shot that reminds me of lebrons 3pt shot, where on tatums stepback its incredibly robotic and needs to have his feet set a certain way that makes it clunky, but on catch and shoots he can just pull it in rhythm and i think thats where he can excel at
It’s time for a new coach. The current philosophies on both sides of the ball don’t work. Also Jrue may need to be traded and the bunch is weak. The depth on this team is so so. Also AL needs to go as well.
How does Noa not understand that Jaylen is planting and manipulating the media haha.
@@TheLittleCan it’s because he’s not he’s been this way since being drafted but now it’s an issue.
@baylordevon he drops to the media what he wants so the media will talk about it. What he drops, doesn't mean its true. He is building himself bs excuses that gullible people will just lap up, and run to his defense.
The last thing I want to hear any of these players say is "sacrifice." Like, shut up. What sacrifice???
This is what Brandon Jennings was talking about... Super soft to defer when everybody cries that your the engine of the celtics, top 5, best american player etc etc etc blah blah blah
56:25 COOK THAT HYPOCRITE FRUAD NOA 😂❗️❗️❗️
cant spell, doofus?
Back to back rhen 1 day off then ANOTHER back to back....both with a OT game. Who wouldnt be COMPLETELY wiped out? There is alot that needs to improve but predictible.
Our offensive schemes are predictable and hasn’t changed since last yr teams have figured it out awhile ago so we should ADAPT & OVERCOME or we won’t repeat shit
When's the part about tatums MVP case? 😂
So it’s impossible to trade JB?
Trade Jrue and Joe first, they are contributing nothing anyway
Celtics don’t have it this season. This is who they are. JT shooting is bad all season. On tv the announcer said JT 19% on 3s. He is overrated
That’s within the last few games, not the season, he shooting almost 38% for the season
Lakers are still poop tho
@@tyriantaylor711No, he's shooting 35.4% from 3 this year, down from 37.6% last season.
Noa gotta stop being so literal and lighten up. You’re replacing josue the goat . Lock in sis.
She’s the only one using her brain
How in the heck was he the goat???? He didn’t add any real ball knowledge
you really are a doofus! dont know the game at all.
Josue, the goat at giggling.
She’s 10x Josue and his 4th world internet issues.
68-14... Go Celtics
FMVP Brown 😂
It's back to back guys relax
Not the way they're playing right now. Can they win back to back? Sure, but I wouldn't bet on it right now.
They almost lost last night too, LeBron played harder than our superstars who are over a decade younger! LeBron brings it 100 percent every night as Kobe did for the Lakers, just as bird, and pierce did in their era for our Celtics, no reason why our superstars can't!
JT is overrated. I'd choose Anthony Edwards, luka, or Ja over JT anyday.
SGA too
in the offseason, when the hawks win the 1st pick ywo years in a row, trade jb for the pick and get the rookie that dreams of playing for the celts: cooper flagg! BOOM!