@@sneff1052 But at the 8 second mark in the video it was stated that the 80 Trans Am was the first American car with the V8 turbo. That's why @PHDGSXR mentioned the Jetfire. It was a aluminum 215 cubic inch V8 with a turbo making 215 HP. My dad had a 63 Jetfire that he bought brand new and used to drag race it.
The '80 Turbo "LU8" was rated at 210hp, not 200. The 1981 Turbo 301 was rated at 200hp due to the C-3 Computer Command Control System, among other things, slightly reducing the HP. The original floor mats were the rubber color keyed ones that say "GM" on them in the front and just have the ribbed pattern in the back. Those appear to be aftermarket that you have, at least in the front. Back in the day, there were many companies selling accessories like that, so I'm sure they were readily available from many sources, even back then.
What a beauty. I’m looking into a 79 T/A because I want a shaker hood but the 80-81 T/As are really growing on me. As for this beautiful car I would remove the side door, fender trim.
This engine was supposed to continue in the next-gen Firebirds (1982+). That's why the early 3rdgen Firebirds have the same hood bulge. It probably would have improved a lot in a few years with computer controlled fuel injection. But then GM canceled the 301, which was Pontiac's last V8, so Pontiac had to copy the Camaro engine options. Funny thing about the 301 is that it's actually 302ci, with exactly the same bore and stroke as the Ford 302, but Pontiac didn't want people to think it was a Ford engine so they called it the 301.
I loved how the hood shaker, when brand new, wobbled side to side as the engine cranked. My 1980 was the same color but with gold bird, and gold finish anodized wheels.
After 74, the only reason the shaker hood shook, was from the emissions laden smog motor detonating itself to death underneath. Low compression, single cat, EGR, leaned out carb, and retarded ignition.
@@joequillun7790 When brand new I said..it wasn't long before it smoothed out and would only move when I gunned the engine. After 127,000 miles it was still smooth and did not smoke when I sold it.
Also, the Turbo Trans Ams were pretty fast compared to other production cars in 1980 and 81. 210 hp was more than what the Vette and Camaro or others in 1980 were producing. Yes, they weren't pushing the horsepower that the earlier Trans Ams and Formulas were, but Pontiac kinda had it's hands tied. Heck, nothing really was super fast in 80 and 81. It was a sad period for production horsepower.
These were legendary monsters its see or own in 1980 through about 84, Turbo had limited year production. One of the coolest most powerful car s you could own. The 3 turbo lights on the hood were star wars stuff.. I remember them being unbelievably powerful. Not by todays standards, but then, Yes.
That is how the Turbo Buicks started out and look how they ended up ,the 301 was only made for 2 years the 3.8 turbo Buick more than a decade . If they took the same time with the 301 it could of been a monster.
The Turbo TA was the first mass produced turbo V8, but Buick had been building the turbo v6 since the late '70's. The TA didn't start the turbo movement at GM. Chevy even had turbocharged Corvairs in the 1960's.
Where did you obtain the information that only about " 1500 blue on blue" Turbo TA's were built? Asking because I have one too, all original I'm the 2nd owner
According to the records I can locate in 1980 they only offered one color blue which was Tahoe blue color code 24. What name and color code is that color?
There's a bunch of misinformation in this video. Firstly, as several have mentioned Oldsmobile did it first back in the early 60's with the Jetfire which was a turbocharged production V8. Secondly, they didn't "do away with" the Shaker hoods in 1980 and 81. They just used a different hood with the offset scoop on the Turbo cars. He kinda didnt clarify that very well. The rest of the regular Trans Ams still got the Shaker hood. Lastly, they're actually rated @ "210" hp and 345 ft Ibs of torque. They produce up to 9 pounds of boost.
Pontiac did what they could at the time the Muscle car was being destroyed. That engine would have done a lot better with EFI .But a second generation T/A is a great car to drive regardless of what motor you've got. A Ram Air 4 could be put in that thing in an afternoon. Then you'd have a screamer.
This car had nothing to do with the Grand National. Buick had the Turbo v6 in 1978. If anything, Pontiac copied off of Buicks Turbo design. They are very similar setups
@@331Grabber Exactly right. And Pontiac didn't build the 1st North American turbo V8, Buick and Olds had it in the 215 in 62. But I don't believe Pontiac claimed this. If I remember, they said it was the only V8 turbo, in "1980".
I bought a 81 turbo with the smokey and and the bandit edition with all the options. Black and gold. Transmission oil pump failed in the first 2000 miles and the camshaft and lifters and turbo failed with in 10000 miles because GM recommended straight 30w oil. Didn’t drive in the winter. Knowing what I know now I would have put 10w30 synthetic in it. Wish I saved her. Only 3000 plus made
Well as mentioned already, Oldsmobile had the Jetfire V-8 turbo in 1962. www.hemmings.com/stories/2013/04/18/yesterdays-car-of-tomorrow-1962-1963-oldsmobile-jetfire
And pontiac was the first north american v8 turbo. It was a version of the buick regal v6 setup. The grand national never came because of the t/a. Buick had the turbo v6 before.
No, the first North American V8 turbo was the Oldsmobile Turbo Jetfire in the F85 which was the first production turbo engine in general and predates the Pontiac by 18 years.
@@JessiesPerformance Yes, I am aware of that but I thought you said original, I need to go back and see if you said the paint was. If you did not, I am sorry
I got the same car in red with hard top but pulled 4.9 out put in 68 400bigblock bored out with big cam! kept ever thing eles stock so when i sell it. but the car to badass to beat by all with 4.9 but that just me my car a BEAST now! might sell it this summer i had it for 15 years! And buy me big truck or nice car!
@@JessiesPerformance I had a 79 TA with a 185 HP L80, Olds 403... I actually raced one of those, ( 1980 Turbo Trans Am), with 210 HP. I actually beat that thing with 25 less HP...lol
A Complete dog incapable out running it's fleas for sure. That said: Nothing a car guy with wrenches, time, and a few extra bucks to spend can't fix. Is it worth it? Well ask yourself this. If you had a 2000 Trans Am a car with pretty good "GO" from it's LS engine but living with it's appearance and any attempt to change that seems like much bigger challenge vs this great looking 1980 Trans Am with a drive train that needs to find it's way into the nearest dumpster. I can fix a slow car and make it fast......I really don't know where to begin when an ugly car needs changes.
No one said we were putting any time into it. I actually sold the car to a dealership about 5 years ago. And If I were to have swapped it I would have done a 1000+ hp LS like I have in my black 79 twin turbo car. Check out some of my other videos, we definitely know engine swaps around here
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The Oldsmobile Jetfire has a turbo in 1962...
Chevrolet Corvair Spyder and Monza...
@@sneff1052 Corvair was a 6cly .
@@tomcherry7029 Well the comment doesnt say anything about the cylinder count...
@@sneff1052 But at the 8 second mark in the video it was stated that the 80 Trans Am was the first American car with the V8 turbo. That's why @PHDGSXR mentioned the Jetfire. It was a aluminum 215 cubic inch V8 with a turbo making 215 HP. My dad had a 63 Jetfire that he bought brand new and used to drag race it.
Oldsmobile had a 215 v8 turbo almost 20 years earlier in the F85.
The Oldsmobile Jetfire
The '80 Turbo "LU8" was rated at 210hp, not 200. The 1981 Turbo 301 was rated at 200hp due to the C-3 Computer Command Control System, among other things, slightly reducing the HP. The original floor mats were the rubber color keyed ones that say "GM" on them in the front and just have the ribbed pattern in the back. Those appear to be aftermarket that you have, at least in the front. Back in the day, there were many companies selling accessories like that, so I'm sure they were readily available from many sources, even back then.
Looks like a 81
john delorean, not john mclaren. i posted some other facts on your instagram post. it took me a while to find you video. very cool car thumbs up
What a beauty. I’m looking into a 79 T/A because I want a shaker hood but the 80-81 T/As are really growing on me.
As for this beautiful car I would remove the side door, fender trim.
@@josemontano7767 you could get a shaker in 80 and 81. Just not with the turbo.
This engine was supposed to continue in the next-gen Firebirds (1982+). That's why the early 3rdgen Firebirds have the same hood bulge. It probably would have improved a lot in a few years with computer controlled fuel injection. But then GM canceled the 301, which was Pontiac's last V8, so Pontiac had to copy the Camaro engine options.
Funny thing about the 301 is that it's actually 302ci, with exactly the same bore and stroke as the Ford 302, but Pontiac didn't want people to think it was a Ford engine so they called it the 301.
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A lot of people may not know this . But that engine turned dash originated in the 64 GTO. It also was available in a 1970 GTO.
I loved how the hood shaker, when brand new, wobbled side to side as the engine cranked. My 1980 was the same color but with gold bird, and gold finish anodized wheels.
After 74, the only reason the shaker hood shook, was from the emissions laden smog motor detonating itself to death underneath. Low compression, single cat, EGR, leaned out carb, and retarded ignition.
@@joequillun7790 When brand new I said..it wasn't long before it smoothed out and would only move when I gunned the engine. After 127,000 miles it was still smooth and did not smoke when I sold it.
@@Fotosaurus56 I wasn't singling out your car, but sounds like you took good care of it.
Cool car, very clean! 👍 Looking at a 81 turbo trans am project right now.
Nice!!
Also, the Turbo Trans Ams were pretty fast compared to other production cars in 1980 and 81. 210 hp was more than what the Vette and Camaro or others in 1980 were producing. Yes, they weren't pushing the horsepower that the earlier Trans Ams and Formulas were, but Pontiac kinda had it's hands tied. Heck, nothing really was super fast in 80 and 81. It was a sad period for production horsepower.
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These were legendary monsters its see or own in 1980 through about 84, Turbo had limited year production. One of the coolest most powerful car s you could own. The 3 turbo lights on the hood were star wars stuff.. I remember them being unbelievably powerful. Not by todays standards, but then, Yes.
Cool the still cool now! 😎
I love the offset bulge Hood basically was the exact same thing that was on my 90 formula as well
Very cool
I must say this car is beautifull with 4he phoenix on the hood ❤ much respect
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The Oldsmobile jet fire was turbo in 62
what was gm thinking putting a 4 brrl carb with the turbo
Who knows!
@@JessiesPerformance It's was easier and safer at the time. The later FI units were still just a glimmer in the future.
That is how the Turbo Buicks started out and look how they ended up ,the 301 was only made for 2 years the 3.8 turbo Buick more than a decade . If they took the same time with the 301 it could of been a monster.
The Turbo TA was the first mass produced turbo V8, but Buick had been building the turbo v6 since the late '70's. The TA didn't start the turbo movement at GM. Chevy even had turbocharged Corvairs in the 1960's.
You forgot the Oldsmobile jetfire.
She's a beauty. My brother had a red on red 1980 4.9 Turbo. I learned how to drive in that bird.
Nice!!
Where did you obtain the information that only about " 1500 blue on blue" Turbo TA's were built? Asking because I have one too, all original I'm the 2nd owner
These are facts Jessie learned from when he was a kid, his dad loved Trans Ams!
Is that an original paint color and if so what is the name and color code
Yes original paint!
According to the records I can locate in 1980 they only offered one color blue which was Tahoe blue color code 24. What name and color code is that color?
It’s Tahoe blue
I had one back in the day. Ran great no issues. Not fast but ran
Awesome!
There's a bunch of misinformation in this video. Firstly, as several have mentioned Oldsmobile did it first back in the early 60's with the Jetfire which was a turbocharged production V8. Secondly, they didn't "do away with" the Shaker hoods in 1980 and 81. They just used a different hood with the offset scoop on the Turbo cars. He kinda didnt clarify that very well. The rest of the regular Trans Ams still got the Shaker hood. Lastly, they're actually rated @ "210" hp and 345 ft Ibs of torque. They produce up to 9 pounds of boost.
In 81 they produced slightly reduced hp and torque. Figured I better clarify that.
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Beautiful car! I had one... copper with decal delete. Blew motor twice then wrapped it around a tree lol
Oh gosh
What is the 5399 on the windshield For
Friday night drags at Texas motor speedway
@@JessiesPerformance I thought it might be the price - would be a deal.
@@frednicholson I was thinking the exact same thing...$5,399 in that condition would be a very good deal.
This car was drag raced!? Care to mention the times?
Pontiac did what they could at the time the Muscle car was being destroyed. That engine would have done a lot better with EFI .But a second generation T/A is a great car to drive regardless of what motor you've got. A Ram Air 4 could be put in that thing in an afternoon. Then you'd have a screamer.
This car had nothing to do with the Grand National. Buick had the Turbo v6 in 1978. If anything, Pontiac copied off of Buicks Turbo design. They are very similar setups
Pontiac actually used parts from Buick's turbo system if I remember correctly.
@@331Grabber Exactly right. And Pontiac didn't build the 1st North American turbo V8, Buick and Olds had it in the 215 in 62. But I don't believe Pontiac claimed this. If I remember, they said it was the only V8 turbo, in "1980".
@@joequillun7790 Yeah. The Oldsmobile Jetfire had a turbo V8 back in 1962 and 63. I saw one in a junk yard when I was a kid in the 80s.
I bought a 81 turbo with the smokey and and the bandit edition with all the options. Black and gold. Transmission oil pump failed in the first 2000 miles and the camshaft and lifters and turbo failed with in 10000 miles because GM recommended straight 30w oil. Didn’t drive in the winter. Knowing what I know now I would have put 10w30 synthetic in it. Wish I saved her. Only 3000 plus made
Nice!!
Well as mentioned already, Oldsmobile had the Jetfire V-8 turbo in 1962. www.hemmings.com/stories/2013/04/18/yesterdays-car-of-tomorrow-1962-1963-oldsmobile-jetfire
We need 18 and 20 inch Turbo-rims....why is noone making them?
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Not enough interest $$$ for aftermarket to produce a run
A company call year one probably could make them in Atlanta Georgia.
And pontiac was the first north american v8 turbo. It was a version of the buick regal v6 setup. The grand national never came because of the t/a. Buick had the turbo v6 before.
Oh neither McLaren or DeLorean had anything to do with the turbo t/a. And those rare floor mats you talked about are aftermarket.
No, the first North American V8 turbo was the Oldsmobile Turbo Jetfire in the F85 which was the first production turbo engine in general and predates the Pontiac by 18 years.
Not to be a doink but the center caps should be the hexagon plastic ones & the gas door is from an 81. Beautiful color though
I did not build this Car and it was sold about 4 years ago
I miss mine, I had 81
They’re amazing cars!
I had one in white it was a beautiful car. I was disappointed with the performance after have a 79 with the 403.
Agreed
Hey Jessie put you some 3:55.1 gears in it!!
Nah, kept this one original and sold it a few years ago!
Top speed??
Not sure
@@JessiesPerformance send it
great looking car but back decal is incorrect on the placement,
We did not build this car
@@JessiesPerformance Yes, I am aware of that but I thought you said original, I need to go back and see if you said the paint was. If you did not, I am sorry
Bad ass man!!!
1980 an 81 were the absolute low point for American performance cars.
Thats true, I have an 81 turbo TA with t tops ws6, currently swapping the 301T for a sbc 400 stroker over 525hp
I got the same car in red with hard top but pulled 4.9 out put in 68 400bigblock bored out with big cam! kept ever thing eles stock so when i sell it. but the car to badass to beat by all with 4.9 but that just me my car a BEAST now! might sell it this summer i had it for 15 years! And buy me big truck or nice car!
Sweet!!
@@JessiesPerformance would sent you pic but didn't see way to! and I'm new to youtube also.
Place a motor in it from butler performance and place a set of 3.42:1 gears in it.
Leaving this one stock!
It’s John Delorean not MeClaren 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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John DeLorean had nothing to do with the turbo car. He was in Ireland, building his car, when he was arrested a bit later for drug money.
This is THE choice of T/A for men that wear prescription underwear.
🤣🤣 couldn’t agree more
nice car jesse. i think its worth more than 5399
Gears. I could pull a train with a 1/2 hp motor with the right gears.
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Rear gear ratio hurt this car.
Absolutely
@@JessiesPerformance So did the TH350, emissions, and weight.
(And by the way, there's nothing wrong with the tail decal)
Get your facts right dude. Smh
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I'm not going down the street dod..... 2017 got me on etc I won't old but new!? 2017
cool channel, i've sub'd , new sub #107 :)
Those things were dogs.
Yep
@@JessiesPerformance I had a 79 TA with a 185 HP L80, Olds 403...
I actually raced one of those, ( 1980 Turbo Trans Am), with 210 HP.
I actually beat that thing with 25 less HP...lol
LS swap
Nah I sold it to someone who enjoys being a pureist
A Complete dog incapable out running it's fleas for sure. That said: Nothing a car guy with wrenches, time, and a few extra bucks to spend can't fix. Is it worth it? Well ask yourself this. If you had a 2000 Trans Am a car with pretty good "GO" from it's LS engine but living with it's appearance and any attempt to change that seems like much bigger challenge vs this great looking 1980 Trans Am with a drive train that needs to find it's way into the nearest dumpster. I can fix a slow car and make it fast......I really don't know where to begin when an ugly car needs changes.
Agreed. Check out some of my videos on my 1800hp twin turbo LS 79 trans am. You won’t be disappointed!
your wasting time & money with this horrible motor !! ... just dump it & get a "crate 350" ... one day you'll thank me
No one said we were putting any time into it. I actually sold the car to a dealership about 5 years ago. And If I were to have swapped it I would have done a 1000+ hp LS like I have in my black 79 twin turbo car. Check out some of my other videos, we definitely know engine swaps around here