I saw old rite believers (women) that wear their headscarf quite far back on their head however I can’t find anything in literature about it and nothing online. Does anyone have any sources?
I think it’s important to note for those who are Eastern Orthodox, this is a schismatic group. The way we worship isn’t magic, we can’t force God to dwell with us by any means. This view of the “old ritualists” is a heretical view, that the Spirit only dwells through these precise means. Rather the Holy Spirit dwells within the church at large and is present in her liturgies around the world. It’s not the ritual that does it, it’s being part of the body of Christ, it’s being in communion.
Sorry I am learning about Orthodoxy, but I want to ask. So in 1971 Moscow Patriarchate revoked the anathemas and also issued an ukase asking for forgiveness. But most have not returned to full communion. For those that have returned to full communion, what do you say about that?
@@yuypergollece6187 Anyone can repent and be received back into the church. Im not sure how they decided to handle this case but usually people outside the faith in this manner are entered in through chrismation, which is a mystery of the church. Being in communion also means that your priest/bishop/ and metropolitan are canonical. For these old rite churches this is not the case. I'd say if you attend an eastern orthodox parish you're part of the body of Christ :)
@xyz30003 huh? burqa? 🤣 clearly this is not a burqa its a simple way of these Christian Women Veiling and us Christians have been doing it way longer than you muslims 😂🤣
@@chetnik19you are wrong Adam was and he's our first prophet and he pbuh was messenger of Allah and islam was born with Adam and evey rituals prayers practices came from Allah through Adam
I am Sunni Muslim May I say to all Orthodox Christians even Muslims in Muslims world don't know if.they see that video I am stunned that we are one as are our lord God is ALLAH All true Msulims wearing clothing,covering g heads ,in hand Tazbi ,for doing zikr,ie on doing Praising ALLAH names Those are the people in which Qur'an directed us that in love and affection will nearer to you I love Orthodox Christians May ALLAH bless them
I blame to all Christian believers don't bring violence among the orthodox, catholic, protestend, etc. we are only beleive one God , don't bring their colours, wearing system is different but it's one ... My heart has broken 💔💔 Jesus Christ is king 👑👑👑☦️☦️✝️✝️✝️
Not in Oregon and Alaska. They are doing services in English because the parents are to lazy to teach the kids anymore! The old believer tradition in America are suffering and people dislike the bishop and don't listen to him!
No, They already got massacred under communism! Putin basically encouraged them to come back to Russia! They live a off grid life like they did before the red terror!
@@dudeman4252 He's not an Old Believer. Watch Agafia Lykova's story. These people and others were persecuted by all Russian governments since the schism. They are not a whole church anyway, they have a lot of branches that don't agree with each other. And yet they are Russian enough to blame their condition on the "west" 😅
Putin has issued special visas to allow the Old Believers, who were exiled 75 years ago by the communists, to return to Russia. Since 2018 many have returned and they're settling in Primorsky Krai.
They look like muslims. Men with beard, women wear veil and fully cloth. There are no chairs in their church. Why can't I see these in most of our churches today?
No, muslims look like them. In fact, that's the ancient Christian tradition, even here, in west. But unfortunately, we, lazy Roman Catholics and Protestants, have discarded the Holy Traditions.
God bless and keep the Old Believers!
I admire the Russian Old Believers. 🕯♥️📿
Respect to the Old Believers from a Serbian Orthodox Swedish-Serb! 🇸🇪🇷🇸☦🇷🇺
Niech Wam błogosławi Bog Wszechmogący !
Reading about the schisms within schisms within schisms is enough to drive a man insane.
I really hope someday ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue can bring us all at least a litte closer to each other 🙁
A rabbit hole indeed
You broke away from Orthodoxy like them, there's noting confusing
@@Carolus-Rex The Roman Catholic Church maintains and defends orthodoxy.
@@matthew4712
"Maintains and defend orthodoxy"
Meanings Adding filioque and unbliblical teachings?
Im Ethiopian i love Russian people and oritodox coz im oritodox i hope vista Russia
Ethiopians are not Orthodox! They are in schism and hold to monophysite theology.
I saw old rite believers (women) that wear their headscarf quite far back on their head however I can’t find anything in literature about it and nothing online. Does anyone have any sources?
I think it’s important to note for those who are Eastern Orthodox, this is a schismatic group. The way we worship isn’t magic, we can’t force God to dwell with us by any means. This view of the “old ritualists” is a heretical view, that the Spirit only dwells through these precise means. Rather the Holy Spirit dwells within the church at large and is present in her liturgies around the world. It’s not the ritual that does it, it’s being part of the body of Christ, it’s being in communion.
Sorry I am learning about Orthodoxy, but I want to ask.
So in 1971 Moscow Patriarchate revoked the anathemas and also issued an ukase asking for forgiveness. But most have not returned to full communion. For those that have returned to full communion, what do you say about that?
@@yuypergollece6187 Anyone can repent and be received back into the church. Im not sure how they decided to handle this case but usually people outside the faith in this manner are entered in through chrismation, which is a mystery of the church. Being in communion also means that your priest/bishop/ and metropolitan are canonical. For these old rite churches this is not the case. I'd say if you attend an eastern orthodox parish you're part of the body of Christ :)
I love all catholic, orthodox etc☦️☦️✝️✝️✝️
🤗😻🐕🙏 Jesus lives on through our love
I value our precious jewels as we pray for wisdom in looking after them. 🤗😻🙏💐
@xyz30003 huh? burqa? 🤣 clearly this is not a burqa its a simple way of these Christian Women Veiling and us Christians have been doing it way longer than you muslims 😂🤣
@@chetnik19you are wrong Adam was and he's our first prophet and he pbuh was messenger of Allah and islam was born with Adam and evey rituals prayers practices came from Allah through Adam
@@alix4698 blah blah blah nothing but straight blabbering 🤣 shut up muzzie
@@083wildanajiwisnugroho7 your point?
I am Sunni Muslim
May I say to all Orthodox Christians even Muslims in Muslims world don't know if.they see that video
I am stunned that we are one as are our lord God is ALLAH
All true Msulims wearing clothing,covering g heads ,in hand Tazbi ,for doing zikr,ie on doing Praising ALLAH names
Those are the people in which Qur'an directed us that in love and affection will nearer to you
I love Orthodox Christians
May ALLAH bless them
Islam and probhet Muhammad were sent to all world!
Christian older than Muslim religion boy .... Hallelujah
Orthodox Christian may be same with your religion but they worship same God Jesus Christ
☦️☦️☦️☦️✝️✝️✝️
@@kiranWary-ix7nrolder ≠ truth, otherwise you would be Hindu instead of Christian. Repent for your sins and stop worshipping a man.
Any links to comparison of Old Believers & Russian Orthodox liturgy + Sacraments,side by side?
Do they have Old Believer bishops?
Some old believer churches have bishops
I was under the impression Russian Old Believers went without Priests Bishops for so long,they felt Clerics we're not necessary after 1980's.
I blame to all Christian believers don't bring violence among the orthodox, catholic, protestend, etc. we are only beleive one God , don't bring their colours, wearing system is different but it's one ... My heart has broken 💔💔 Jesus Christ is king 👑👑👑☦️☦️✝️✝️✝️
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Aliluja
Not in Oregon and Alaska. They are doing services in English because the parents are to lazy to teach the kids anymore! The old believer tradition in America are suffering and people dislike the bishop and don't listen to him!
Will Putin ban them too?
no, putin is also orthodox
No, They already got massacred under communism! Putin basically encouraged them to come back to Russia! They live a off grid life like they did before the red terror!
@@dudeman4252 Putin is a lying Jew.
@@dudeman4252 He's not an Old Believer. Watch Agafia Lykova's story.
These people and others were persecuted by all Russian governments since the schism. They are not a whole church anyway, they have a lot of branches that don't agree with each other.
And yet they are Russian enough to blame their condition on the "west" 😅
Putin has issued special visas to allow the Old Believers, who were exiled 75 years ago by the communists, to return to Russia. Since 2018 many have returned and they're settling in Primorsky Krai.
Fanatics
They look like muslims. Men with beard, women wear veil and fully cloth. There are no chairs in their church. Why can't I see these in most of our churches today?
alislam.org/jesus
No, muslims look like them. In fact, that's the ancient Christian tradition, even here, in west. But unfortunately, we, lazy Roman Catholics and Protestants, have discarded the Holy Traditions.
Thats why they are called the old believers. They still hold the old believes.
@@faanengaaw7357 So you meant Christians and Muslims came with the same messages and basic laws but Christians changed them???
@@viniciussantos7314 So.... Muslims preserve old belief but Christians changed it?
😲😲😲 women use Hijab old believers sem Islam?????
Christians
pictures of Christ and the disciples on the wall they are black.
Derrick Rivers WE
Derrick Rivers From years of candle and insense smoke.
Brown skin doesn't mean black, There are not only 2 races that exist. Blacks dont have naturally straight hair anyways
Christ wasn't white
@@rodricksteal1729 White and Caucasian are different things... Christ is WHITE 😍🙏🏻
There is no God but Almighty Allah and Muhammad PBUH is His last prophet and Jesus PBUH is not God neither died and Crusified!
Why do you need to bring this here? Get lost
@shaz aisha was grow up when 9 years .. And Mohammmad is the true prophet and absolutely not pedophile.. .. Like your imagination ...
@@karduspakle4475 Mohammed was a prophet of the devil. Hes the forerunner of the antichrist.
Fuck mohammad 🤮
@TheLatiosnlatias02 read the Hadith. literally all of what they said is in there, it is not hidden at all.
God bless Russia