I notice from the video the PS5 Pro is much closer to 60fps than the PS5. I can also tell the diff in res and FSR vs PSSR, Cleaner and this is on YT so in person it would be more pronounced. Another great video bro.
Yeah this is great I played last night now let's just wait for digital foundry to spin this somehow it looks worse than regular ps5 they keap doing some really weird videos now days just for negativity a d click and yes I get Avatar and some other bad but they where saying about dragon's dogma and darktide that it's worse like how 🤔 I'm playing those games and the look way better than regular ps5 😅
hell my rebirth looks worse. also the smooth and sharp settings on rebirth are labeled wrong in the translation. sharp is smooth and smooth is sharp. I find it funny how people react when they actually do a side by side comparison on their own systems. Also if you have the disc version make sure you do a clean install after the 2nd patch if you havent already. there are old files that the patch do not overwrite that cause stuttering. once you do a clean install they are replaced and the game runs smooth.
@@h.i.mcdunnough9421 Yeah i saw that. it it looks good as a still image but when you move the camera you will notice it losing quality. Many people wont see it but if you spend alot of time on pc playing at something like 2880 x1620 and you are familar with what to look for when it comes to upscaling then im sure you will see it. its a small problem. If i had a warning to console players its not to play pc games over certain resolutions and frame rates because it spoils your eyes and when you want to go back to console you will spend more time messing with picture settings than actually playing.
@lordmetroid1 yep. Have a Neo QLED 75 inch with VRR. Can't even tell of it dips at all. Runs super smooth and looks AMAZING at the same time. This is how pro games should look and perform. Amazing 👑
@@HawkerXCi on console yes it goes around 30- 40 in quality. in performance it locks at 60 but i have seen it drop. also it depends on if you are using motion interpolation which i dont recommend using cause it lags. My tv is vrr supportive but not at 120hz even though my tv can also support 120hz on pc and xbsx. Mine wont work over 60hz in vrr for the ps5. strange mess.
This update is amazing like many other updates like GT7, FF7R, Stellar blade, ratchet and clank, TLOU 1 & 2 etc etc. This is how you use PSSR. The image quality is SUPERCLEAN and crisp. So is the Performance even though it dips from time to time. I have a Neo QLED samsung tv. 75 inch and sitting 2.5 meters away from it. Played Space marine 2 on the base ps5. LOVED the game. But man. Everything was super blurry. Good looking game nevertheless. But super blurry and mushy. Especially if you have a big screen like mine and sitting 2 meters away from it. But now. WOW. Super crisp and clean. Looks absolutely amazing on my 75 inch TV with amazing Performance thanks to VRR. This feels like playing on a high end PC but on a console connected to a huge tv. I love this feeling ❤
@@Nickkerr1 homeboy are you slow? There’s a difference in the image between Pro and base PS5. I’m not comparing the PC version. Of course it looks way better using DLAA on PC
RUclips doesn't do justice to the resolution of PSSR in this game. I think the game looks a lot better on the Pro. Unfortunately, this doesn't come across so well on RUclips and with a split screen. Danke für deine Videos und Grüße aus Württemberg nach Australien und frohe Feiertage, wünsche ich
Was waiting for your video and first out the block! I’ve completed it on pc and was waiting for the pro update, I know what I’m doing tonight. Thanks 👍🏻
Would be nice if the developers could give some information on their PSSR implementation as I'm guessing they used their own denoiser running after PSSR
Pssr has never been the issue but rather its devs putting forth lackluster effort at optimization pushing out unfinished and unoptimized patches which unfortunately has become the norm over the years with so many devs no longer optimizing taking full advantage of the hardware and instead simply use crutches such as fsr for example to push out games without spending time, effort, and resources for optimization. Pssr is gonna be great for the devs who actually put forth effort to utilize it properly because as always whenever a game looks or runs bad its on the devs not the hardware
I stopped playing it on my base ps5 because it looked so bad on performance mode. I restarted it tonight on my pro and believe me it’s an enormous improvement and looks WAYY better. A RUclips video doesn’t do it justice but actually playing it, trust me it’s night and day
For me it’s the motion clarity alone that sells PSSR. PSSR provides that. Nowadays games are blurry even with motion blur turned off. It’s outrageous. We would have crystal clear motion clarity in Warcraft 3 in the 2000s. Mark Cerny, a genius, realized that and focused on that. The image is way less blurry
Hi Marcus, love the content. This week I updated from an LG CX to an LG G4. Could you please do a video showing your game optimizer settings as well as calibrating the G4 to the ps5 console hdr, how many clicks to go up etc like you did when you first got the CX. Also do you think it's better to change the hdmi input to PC when gaming on a console as suggested by many people online? Thanks!
I bought this game for my Pro in the anticipation it would get a Pro patch, and my god its way better in 'Speed' mode. I found it very blurry on base PS5 on my LG C1 OLED. Looks superb now! Glad I held off getting this on XSX.
This really let's me know that either some devs are using older versions or not taking the time to implement it correctly. This update it's another night and day difference in visuals and that's not including the up res quality mode.
The funniest thing with pssr is that on PC people reacted the same way with FSR 1.0 and DLSS 1.0 now somewhat in comparisons people forget those things. PSSR is only going to get better from here on out
So far the great PSSR implementations include GT7, TLOU pt 1 and 2, Ratchet and clank, Spider-Man series, black ops 6 (after the patch), God of War Ragnorok, Space Marine2, Callisto protocol, Stellar blade, FF VII rebirth, apex legends, F1 24, Demon Souls, Hogwarts legacy games struggling - Outlaws, Jedi survivor, Silent Hill 2, Alan wake 2, dragon age and dragons dogma That’s not a bad hit rate
Interestingly, i watched your video last night, and thought thats cool, let's try it. After booting in the game, it seems to run in a 120hz containerin BOTH quailty and speed mode at least according to my S95D
Played yesterday, i was playing a day early too so the base version was fresh in my mind XD! And oh boy, the difference is huge. At least playing on a 4K TV, the game was very very blurry on performance mode, and now is just perfect. Finally, a patch that doesn't destroy the game and then blame the PSSR.
Astounding improvement! Have they ever said anything about getting HDR in at some point? Or is it impossible to do so. Please convince Sabre to implement it.
I can already see on my smartphone how blurry the base PS5 is compared to the PS5 Pro. I dont need a big Tv to see the difference. And don't forget the RUclips compression too.
It’s like going from 1080p to 4K. I don’t see how people let alone Digital Foundry can’t see that. I sold my Base PS5 and in my heart I knew the Base didn’t look as good so I was looking to Digital Fondry for validation and they failed us!
It's gonna be way better. Base ps5 and xsx were similar, but xsx was slightly better and held higher FPS. This looks like a nearly perfect use of PSSR!
I think, still having a choice isn't a bad thing. Not every game has to be played like CoD or Fortnite and there are enough people out there who prefer image quality over unstable fps.
Very nice video, I also think the upgrade is great. You can also clearly spot the difference in the resolution of the lasers beams or in the details of the armor and objects coming in from the distance in the pro version. The image is so much sharper. Locked 60 fps would have been fantastic but the drops are ok imo for a locked 60 fps the pro would have needed a higher CPU boost. Great video as always!
Great to see PSSR implemented correctly more & more often, with exceptions 😉 In my own experience playing on the PS5 Pro what often supports a slightly better image quality is to turn off motion blur & sharpness, like completely. We'll see what we'll get in the future, looking forward to titles like Kingdom Come II, Death Stranding II, Indiana Jones & Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake in the near future! Markus, Du bist einfach der beste, mach' so weiter und der Kanal geht durch die Decke 💯 Hoffe, Dir geht's gut, viele Grüße! Update: Markus, zur Info: Morgen erscheint der Avatar PS5 Pro Hotfix. Vielleicht einer Revision auf dem Kanal würdig 😉💯
I think I discovered why some games look great with PSSR and some look terrible. And why some games like Horizon chose not to use PSSR. It's because some games are built around using TAA , and when you disable TAA in games that were built to use it, it introduces shimmering, which PSSR amplifies further. Horizon knew this, it's why they kept TAA. However games that were properly optimized without using TAA, and use things like FSR or other AA solutions, PSSR will look great. There's nothing wrong with PSSR. It's just when TAA is forced off on games that were lazily optomized around TAA, PSSR amplifies the poor optimization. The same thing happens on Horizon on PC if you force disable TAA and try to apply DLSS.
@@beammeupscottsp7952 Its more than 3 games but Avatar, Alan wake 2, silent hill 2, star wars jedi survivor, star wars outlaws, dragon's dogma 2 (however this can be mitigated since its only one particular mode that you can choose not to use and thus wont have any issues), and possibly dragon age the veilguard is not perfect but is pretty acceptable implementation. BUt the first 4 are the big real issue games. The rest just aren't perfect and can have problems.
@@densetsu4286 so what’s the issue then, since it seems pssr can have a dramatic change in appearance in most games for thr better. Then some games like the ones you mentioned aren’t implemented that well, what exactly is the issue. Seems as if the resolution from all the game mentioned are around internally 1080p same as space marine in performance mode, we’re developers using an older pssr version at the time or is this on the devs.
I have it on pc and played the campaign to full completion and played around with the mp quite a lot so I won't pick this one up for my ps5 pro but it's awesome its been patched for everyone who played it at launch with the blur and low res or for the new comers to the game
To me, difference does feel night and day. I thought it was a muddy mess before, but now it looks incredible. With VRR, it feels super smooth and I don't see those frame dips. Plus we get all the lovely effects like motion blur, which was missing on the base PS5 in performance mode
Hi! I’m really sorry but I launched the game (well rather the trial version) after downloading the update today but I can’t find the quality and performance modes of the PS5 pro... they didn’t change the name of these modes? There are only quality and performance, as before the update...
The options are the same, just updated now to be running via PRO performance parameters. I know as I have a PRO and can instantly see the difference on the Performance "Speed" option.
I stopped playing when i knew the pro was coming. I started the warhammer over and it looks amazing on ps5 pro. War hammer is so sharp on ps5 pro. I am glad i did not finish it. Playing it on my oled lg c1 83in and loving it. I going to go back and start new game + on ff7 rebirth
At launch on the ps5, the performance mode was so bad. Targeted 60fps was like a 1080p visual mode but it was really like a 45fps game and it just dropped all the time. Was ugly to play in low res. The 30fps mode was locked and had better visuals but 30fps was so hard to get used to. Basically forced to play with my Warhammer mad friends. But now, performance mode is a smooth 60fps and the 4k looks even better than the quality mode. It's a huge night and day change. Makes me want to play the campaign again. These 1080p 60fps games on base ps5 are the reason I got a Pro.
The Pro IS a night and day difference on this game. The base PS5 has some kind of blur filter over the picture, but on the Pro, everything is sharp and smooth.
A lot of bot comments saying the same thing. Sony is working overtime to sell you the Pro console. Again, at a normal viewing distance, both versions look identical
@@Thor86- Yes you are. Even Marcus said you need at least 65" OLED TV or better to notice a minimal difference. Save your breath, since Nov 7th you bots have been compensating your buyer's remorse by coping and spamming every comparison video with how otherworldly the Pro looks.
PSSR only struggles when the internal resolution is below 1080p. It also struggles when RT effects are rendering at a super low resolution, or GI effects like lumen at low resolutions. It’s superior to FSR in every way.
If pssr is working well it's either good at reconstructing from lower resolution or pssr doesn't work well with unreal 5 it seems it's the games using unreal 5
@@overheatedeskim054 False, PS5 slim in on sale yet you state the non-sale price of the Pro. Sad Standard UK price for PS5 Digital is £390. PS5 Pro can be bought for £660
Apparentlly it runs in 120FPS with the new Patch on my LG Oled C2 in the speed mode. How it is possible? Normally it should be 60FPS... Is there a diffrence between 120FPS and 60 FPS?
@@GamingTech-RUclips Thank you very much for the quick reply :)..Do you know why it runs directly in 120 FPS? Should it not be only 60FPS? is this due to the VRR? On my LG C2 its says 120Hz Fixed mode :).
@@MariusPF20 It's not 120FPS it's 120Hz. The game has now a 120Hz mode but it still runs in 60FPS. 120Hz are better then 60Hz. You have the 120Hz output set to automatic on your PS5 that's why it runs in 120Hz. Every game should do that!
@ i understand thank you .. I did noticed a difference actually..when automatic 120 hz is turned of on the ps5 pro the game runs in RGB voor space and when the 120 hz is turned on the game runs in YCBCR 422 . I can definitely see some differences between, not sure if is quality or its du to the higher range of RGB .
@@GamingTech-RUclipsthis is really interesting stuff. So does that apply to the Quality mode, too? I.e 30fps in a 60hz container? As the Quality mode certainly does not feel like i’m playing a 30fps game…
The quality mode looks great on the Pro... but the asset quality downgrade to performance is to high and to noticeable. I would much prefer a single Pro mode with regular PS5 quality assets and even resolution but at 60fps. Not sure CPU limitations would be a problem here.
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I notice from the video the PS5 Pro is much closer to 60fps than the PS5. I can also tell the diff in res and FSR vs PSSR, Cleaner and this is on YT so in person it would be more pronounced. Another great video bro.
It's a great update on the PRO
Facts
Yeah this is great I played last night now let's just wait for digital foundry to spin this somehow it looks worse than regular ps5 they keap doing some really weird videos now days just for negativity a d click and yes I get Avatar and some other bad but they where saying about dragon's dogma and darktide that it's worse like how 🤔 I'm playing those games and the look way better than regular ps5 😅
My optical drive arrives today so this is the first game im installing on my Pro
I never saw the pro version drop out of the VRR window, whereas the base version always got framey when things hit the fan. A great update to be sure.
I can pause and look at the side by side comparisons. Almost every shot looks considerably better on Pro.
It’s a Rebirth level upgrade. It’s like removing vasoline blur
Yup, taking a Windex to a window with smudge on it.
hell my rebirth looks worse. also the smooth and sharp settings on rebirth are labeled wrong in the translation. sharp is smooth and smooth is sharp. I find it funny how people react when they actually do a side by side comparison on their own systems. Also if you have the disc version make sure you do a clean install after the 2nd patch if you havent already. there are old files that the patch do not overwrite that cause stuttering. once you do a clean install they are replaced and the game runs smooth.
The sharp and smooth options are the old settings. Versatility is the pro mode that looks way better. @@THENEVERDEADIV
@@h.i.mcdunnough9421 Yeah i saw that. it it looks good as a still image but when you move the camera you will notice it losing quality. Many people wont see it but if you spend alot of time on pc playing at something like 2880 x1620 and you are familar with what to look for when it comes to upscaling then im sure you will see it. its a small problem. If i had a warning to console players its not to play pc games over certain resolutions and frame rates because it spoils your eyes and when you want to go back to console you will spend more time messing with picture settings than actually playing.
@@THENEVERDEADIV you should use versatility mode, sharp and smooth are the old setting for base ps5
Excellent video, as someone that owns a 65 LG OLED with VRR and a 120hz panel, I can tell you it runs like butter, in performance mode.
it also looks like butter in performance mode. leave it at 40 fps for right now.
@lordmetroid1 yep. Have a Neo QLED 75 inch with VRR. Can't even tell of it dips at all. Runs super smooth and looks AMAZING at the same time. This is how pro games should look and perform. Amazing 👑
@@yourfriendlyPSguy62 nah it doesn’t run like butter. It dips frequently
@@THENEVERDEADIVis it running at 40fps in Quality?
I have a vrr/120hz tv and it seems like Quality mode is 60fps and Speed mode is 120fps?
@@HawkerXCi on console yes it goes around 30- 40 in quality. in performance it locks at 60 but i have seen it drop. also it depends on if you are using motion interpolation which i dont recommend using cause it lags. My tv is vrr supportive but not at 120hz even though my tv can also support 120hz on pc and xbsx. Mine wont work over 60hz in vrr for the ps5. strange mess.
I'm enjoying the PS5 pro so much, especially with PSVR2 🎉
Thanks for the great content, amazing channel!!!
I hope they pro patch Madison
This update is amazing like many other updates like GT7, FF7R, Stellar blade, ratchet and clank, TLOU 1 & 2 etc etc. This is how you use PSSR. The image quality is SUPERCLEAN and crisp. So is the Performance even though it dips from time to time. I have a Neo QLED samsung tv. 75 inch and sitting 2.5 meters away from it. Played Space marine 2 on the base ps5. LOVED the game. But man. Everything was super blurry. Good looking game nevertheless. But super blurry and mushy. Especially if you have a big screen like mine and sitting 2 meters away from it. But now. WOW. Super crisp and clean. Looks absolutely amazing on my 75 inch TV with amazing Performance thanks to VRR. This feels like playing on a high end PC but on a console connected to a huge tv. I love this feeling ❤
Pause it at 2:24
The difference is huge. Look how much blurrier the people and distant details are. It’s like when you remove the blur in Rebirth
Yeah super noticeable Im not even watching full screen and you can see this difference very clearly.
@ I have a 4090 + 9800x3D rig. Cry more
@@Nickkerr1 homeboy are you slow? There’s a difference in the image between Pro and base PS5. I’m not comparing the PC version. Of course it looks way better using DLAA on PC
@@Nickkerr1dam keep coping bro, the fact he has a 4090 just melted you. Rip
iv heard some 4090 owners playing on xbox
Definitely more detail on the PS5 Pro.
ya ps5 looks a bit milky
You deserve significantly more views and subscribers on your channel man. I’ve discovered a hidden gem here 👊
Beat DF by 9 days! Putting in the work! I look forward to these videos more than some of the DF videos as of late!
A really nice breakdown and thanks for updating for new patch. I think I will have to try this game for sure, looks great!
RUclips doesn't do justice to the resolution of PSSR in this game. I think the game looks a lot better on the Pro. Unfortunately, this doesn't come across so well on RUclips and with a split screen.
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Digital Foundry says otherwise lol
@overheatedeskim054 i can't find a video from digital foundry where they have tested the new pro patch that was released yesterday
Space marines 2 on pro runs at like 1280p 😮 with fake 4k blurry town
@@overheatedeskim054 no they dont. According to my info they haven't tested SM2. They tested Darktide.
Was waiting for your video and first out the block!
I’ve completed it on pc and was waiting for the pro update, I know what I’m doing tonight.
Thanks 👍🏻
Watching it now on my 85” TV and yeah, clearer for sure! Awesome!
All of this with no HDR support is such a shame
If you have ab lg c1 it can fix that issue with the secret menu option 11311.
Would be nice if the developers could give some information on their PSSR implementation as I'm guessing they used their own denoiser running after PSSR
Tried it last night, it looks sharper and brighter imo. Keep up the great work!
Pssr has never been the issue but rather its devs putting forth lackluster effort at optimization pushing out unfinished and unoptimized patches which unfortunately has become the norm over the years with so many devs no longer optimizing taking full advantage of the hardware and instead simply use crutches such as fsr for example to push out games without spending time, effort, and resources for optimization.
Pssr is gonna be great for the devs who actually put forth effort to utilize it properly because as always whenever a game looks or runs bad its on the devs not the hardware
I stopped playing it on my base ps5 because it looked so bad on performance mode. I restarted it tonight on my pro and believe me it’s an enormous improvement and looks WAYY better. A RUclips video doesn’t do it justice but actually playing it, trust me it’s night and day
You can't see the difference on youtube,but playing it on my tv you can see how clean the image is now compared to how it was before.
For me it’s the motion clarity alone that sells PSSR. PSSR provides that. Nowadays games are blurry even with motion blur turned off. It’s outrageous. We would have crystal clear motion clarity in Warcraft 3 in the 2000s. Mark Cerny, a genius, realized that and focused on that. The image is way less blurry
Hi Marcus, love the content. This week I updated from an LG CX to an LG G4. Could you please do a video showing your game optimizer settings as well as calibrating the G4 to the ps5 console hdr, how many clicks to go up etc like you did when you first got the CX. Also do you think it's better to change the hdmi input to PC when gaming on a console as suggested by many people online?
Thanks!
Already loved it before the patch, but now... Damn.. its beautiful!!!
I bought this game for my Pro in the anticipation it would get a Pro patch, and my god its way better in 'Speed' mode. I found it very blurry on base PS5 on my LG C1 OLED. Looks superb now! Glad I held off getting this on XSX.
Great video bro. appreciate these comparisons 👍
It's hard to tell the difference on youtube, but playing the game on the pro it has cleaned the image up heaps.
You can clearly see an improvement in the clarity, better fps too, well within VRR boundaries, exactly as the PRO advertised.
the difference in motion is crazy
Great Video! You earned my subscription
I booted it up and…wow. What a difference. The performance mode has gone from very disappointing to very impressive.
Man thanks for doing these videos 💯
Sweet jesus this looks glorious on the pro now, i was only 2 missions deep, glad i waited
Played it all last night and man it blew me away. Haven't played it since launch as it looked so bad
So it looks less blurry? I have a 4k and 120hz tv and on my PS5 it looks a little bit blurry
This really let's me know that either some devs are using older versions or not taking the time to implement it correctly. This update it's another night and day difference in visuals and that's not including the up res quality mode.
This looks great on the pro. It’s starting to come around
I'm watching this in my 5K Apple Studio Display and you can see the difference in clarity and sharpness. Its almost like FF7 Rebirth.
The funniest thing with pssr is that on PC people reacted the same way with FSR 1.0 and DLSS 1.0 now somewhat in comparisons people forget those things. PSSR is only going to get better from here on out
So far the great PSSR implementations include GT7, TLOU pt 1 and 2, Ratchet and clank, Spider-Man series, black ops 6 (after the patch), God of War Ragnorok, Space Marine2, Callisto protocol, Stellar blade, FF VII rebirth, apex legends, F1 24, Demon Souls, Hogwarts legacy
games struggling - Outlaws, Jedi survivor, Silent Hill 2, Alan wake 2, dragon age and dragons dogma
That’s not a bad hit rate
Hallo mein bester … wie ist deine Einschätzung zu Helldivers2 ?
Wird das (vllt) kommende Update auch nur geringfügige Verbesserungen enthalten ?
The sharpness and details are amazing.
Interestingly, i watched your video last night, and thought thats cool, let's try it. After booting in the game, it seems to run in a 120hz containerin BOTH quailty and speed mode at least according to my S95D
When I saw the update for space marine 2 this morning. I already knew it was the pro patch.
Saber are such a good gaming studio!
Played yesterday, i was playing a day early too so the base version was fresh in my mind XD!
And oh boy, the difference is huge. At least playing on a 4K TV, the game was very very blurry on performance mode, and now is just perfect. Finally, a patch that doesn't destroy the game and then blame the PSSR.
Astounding improvement! Have they ever said anything about getting HDR in at some point? Or is it impossible to do so. Please convince Sabre to implement it.
I can already see on my smartphone how blurry the base PS5 is compared to the PS5 Pro. I dont need a big Tv to see the difference. And don't forget the RUclips compression too.
It’s like going from 1080p to 4K. I don’t see how people let alone Digital Foundry can’t see that. I sold my Base PS5 and in my heart I knew the Base didn’t look as good so I was looking to Digital Fondry for validation and they failed us!
Yup this is the best console version by far. Good to see the PlayStation Professional flexing 💪 its muscles again.
This game is heavy 720p on the base😮 didnt realize it was so low
How does the ps5 pro version compare to xbox series X? Not trying to cause a console war but just curious
It's gonna be way better. Base ps5 and xsx were similar, but xsx was slightly better and held higher FPS.
This looks like a nearly perfect use of PSSR!
why does the pro have lod pop in which the base model doesn't have?
Didnt olay it on base console but on Pro it looks really good sharo, no artefacts, basically didn't remember one game on base PS5 to looks this solid
This and Darktide are amazing on the pro 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤ on my 4k vrr monitor the upgrade is huge!
but Digital Foundry isn’t sure which version they like better
I’ve been playing on the pro today and I must say the difference is beautiful. On quality mode the game looks stunning.
@@Joystick-Juggernaut you’re playing this at 30fps?
I think, still having a choice isn't a bad thing. Not every game has to be played like CoD or Fortnite and there are enough people out there who prefer image quality over unstable fps.
Are you saying that you got a ps5 pro for quality modes?
Im playing at native 4k 80fps pc no fake 4k here boys 😂
@ELpeaceonearth that's good for you, what's your setup?
Good news. I was planning to buy this for the pro to play during the holidays.
Earlier I wrote that the 3700x at 4.2GHz still drops to 53. the frame rate per second ranges from 52-80+ ~
Amazing change and a noticeable 10-20% extra frames also helps!
Ive tried everything pssr fsr im getting micro stuttering in combat everywhere.
@@bloodline271 yeah no one is talking about this
Very nice video, I also think the upgrade is great. You can also clearly spot the difference in the resolution of the lasers beams or in the details of the armor and objects coming in from the distance in the pro version. The image is so much sharper. Locked 60 fps would have been fantastic but the drops are ok imo for a locked 60 fps the pro would have needed a higher CPU boost. Great video as always!
Dec 12th the Avatar PS5 Pro Hotfix PSSR toggle option is scheduled. Any chance of a comparison video? Thanks
Just got my Pro, its my early Christmas gift
This guy is way better than digital foundry, spot on and always around the clock!
Great to see PSSR implemented correctly more & more often, with exceptions 😉
In my own experience playing on the PS5 Pro what often supports a slightly better image quality is to turn off motion blur & sharpness, like completely. We'll see what we'll get in the future, looking forward to titles like Kingdom Come II, Death Stranding II, Indiana Jones & Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake in the near future! Markus, Du bist einfach der beste, mach' so weiter und der Kanal geht durch die Decke 💯 Hoffe, Dir geht's gut, viele Grüße!
Update: Markus, zur Info: Morgen erscheint der Avatar PS5 Pro Hotfix. Vielleicht einer Revision auf dem Kanal würdig 😉💯
one game that isn't horrendous "Great to see PSSR implemented" these fanboy's lol. DF had thing to say about it
Thanks for letting me know
It's a massive difference - no comparison
I think I discovered why some games look great with PSSR and some look terrible. And why some games like Horizon chose not to use PSSR.
It's because some games are built around using TAA , and when you disable TAA in games that were built to use it, it introduces shimmering, which PSSR amplifies further.
Horizon knew this, it's why they kept TAA. However games that were properly optimized without using TAA, and use things like FSR or other AA solutions, PSSR will look great.
There's nothing wrong with PSSR. It's just when TAA is forced off on games that were lazily optomized around TAA, PSSR amplifies the poor optimization.
The same thing happens on Horizon on PC if you force disable TAA and try to apply DLSS.
Ya none of these games were designed with the PS5 Pro in mind. In the future, devs will be able to remediate the problems as they’re introduced
Great comment, I think you're right
This video is dedicated to all the haters who said PSSR is a failure.
@@BigJugsRule92 there’s literally 3 games with bad PSSR. Only 3
Avatar shouldn’t count, it’s Ubisoft 😂
@@teddyholiday8038I’m assuming silent hill and what is the other bad one?
@@beammeupscottsp7952 Its more than 3 games but Avatar, Alan wake 2, silent hill 2, star wars jedi survivor, star wars outlaws, dragon's dogma 2 (however this can be mitigated since its only one particular mode that you can choose not to use and thus wont have any issues), and possibly dragon age the veilguard is not perfect but is pretty acceptable implementation. BUt the first 4 are the big real issue games. The rest just aren't perfect and can have problems.
@@densetsu4286 so what’s the issue then, since it seems pssr can have a dramatic change in appearance in most games for thr better. Then some games like the ones you mentioned aren’t implemented that well, what exactly is the issue. Seems as if the resolution from all the game mentioned are around internally 1080p same as space marine in performance mode, we’re developers using an older pssr version at the time or is this on the devs.
I have it on pc and played the campaign to full completion and played around with the mp quite a lot so I won't pick this one up for my ps5 pro but it's awesome its been patched for everyone who played it at launch with the blur and low res or for the new comers to the game
you can even tell the huge difference in image quality just by looking at this youtube video on a mobile phone... image a big TV...
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@@kevinschwart1028 butthurt alert
@@elwingy I bet if Sony lit a bonfire and told you to prostrate to it, your only question would be: "Can I drink the kool-aid too while doing it?"
To me, difference does feel night and day. I thought it was a muddy mess before, but now it looks incredible. With VRR, it feels super smooth and I don't see those frame dips. Plus we get all the lovely effects like motion blur, which was missing on the base PS5 in performance mode
Is it worth trading my Ps5 and adding 350$ to get the pro
@terminator04201989 For me it was, well, I bought the Pro and use the OG PS5 in another room. But I'm happy with my purchase
@@TheBuffig I think I'm going to wait to much and no disc drive.
As an Xbox Series X and PS5 Pro owner...the PS5 Pro actually looks like the Series X version and im surprised nobody is talking about that!
Hi! I’m really sorry but I launched the game (well rather the trial version) after downloading the update today but I can’t find the quality and performance modes of the PS5 pro... they didn’t change the name of these modes? There are only quality and performance, as before the update...
The options are the same, just updated now to be running via PRO performance parameters. I know as I have a PRO and can instantly see the difference on the Performance "Speed" option.
I still don’t get it why native resolution is so low? I can go 1440p with 3060 12gb wit ease locked 60fps with high settings😱
I stopped playing when i knew the pro was coming. I started the warhammer over and it looks amazing on ps5 pro. War hammer is so sharp on ps5 pro. I am glad i did not finish it. Playing it on my oled lg c1 83in and loving it. I going to go back and start new game + on ff7 rebirth
Would tou recommend having the pro in 120hz?
Yes just make sure your display doesn’t have any compromises at 4K/120
Can u check the area with the creepy crawlies? That area hit the vanilla hard, dropping the performance below 50 fps
Nice!
At launch on the ps5, the performance mode was so bad. Targeted 60fps was like a 1080p visual mode but it was really like a 45fps game and it just dropped all the time. Was ugly to play in low res.
The 30fps mode was locked and had better visuals but 30fps was so hard to get used to. Basically forced to play with my Warhammer mad friends.
But now, performance mode is a smooth 60fps and the 4k looks even better than the quality mode.
It's a huge night and day change. Makes me want to play the campaign again.
These 1080p 60fps games on base ps5 are the reason I got a Pro.
The Pro IS a night and day difference on this game. The base PS5 has some kind of blur filter over the picture, but on the Pro, everything is sharp and smooth.
Can you review Apex Legends on the ps5 pro? No one has done it yet surprisingly
I see a video last night getting 120fps on the pro in this game . My lg tv was telling me i was getting 120fps. Any reason why ?
can you please do an HDR test for Hunt Showdown next? thanks!
Whelp. Looks like I'm buying the ps5 version now then, and starting the grind all over again 😅
Where is my video for rise of the ronin ps5 pro?
Path of Exile 2 next?
A lot of bot comments saying the same thing. Sony is working overtime to sell you the Pro console. Again, at a normal viewing distance, both versions look identical
i can see the difference already on my smartphone, so i am a bot too? 🤔🤦🏻♂️😂😂
@@Thor86- Yes you are. Even Marcus said you need at least 65" OLED TV or better to notice a minimal difference. Save your breath, since Nov 7th you bots have been compensating your buyer's remorse by coping and spamming every comparison video with how otherworldly the Pro looks.
Yes, its a giant conspiracy! The lizard aliens have taken over Sony exec bodies, and are harvesting our money
Puuurfect!
I just the ps6 is Zen 6 CPU with Udna... That will put them on par with like 9700x 4080 super level performance
At that time PC Will have the 6000-7000 series and the 4080 super Will be an 8 years old card...
PSSR only struggles when the internal resolution is below 1080p. It also struggles when RT effects are rendering at a super low resolution, or GI effects like lumen at low resolutions. It’s superior to FSR in every way.
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It's not PSSR that's the problem, devs dont know how to use it
@@deetsitmeisterjd it’s only an issue when they go below 1080p
It's lazy Dev's & UR5 that is trash, both XSX & PS5 Pro great hardware. If you look at 1st party games they look great on both systems.
@ XSX is weak
Lol try indiana jones on it @@teddyholiday8038
@@teddyholiday8038How? I love my X and Pro 😊
If pssr is working well it's either good at reconstructing from lower resolution or pssr doesn't work well with unreal 5 it seems it's the games using unreal 5
Added sharpness to the game. They did not add performance. Pay $700 for the ps5pro. Beautiful, beautiful.
They didn’t add performance? Did you watch the video and see the clear frame bump and stability?
@@alphaj9 I saw everything. Do I have to pay double the price for this?
i don't know prices everywhere but in the UK brand new PS5 Slim is £309 right now and Pro is £699 totally £400 upgrade going on here🤣🤣
@@overheatedeskim054 False, PS5 slim in on sale yet you state the non-sale price of the Pro. Sad
Standard UK price for PS5 Digital is £390. PS5 Pro can be bought for £660
Apparentlly it runs in 120FPS with the new Patch on my LG Oled C2 in the speed mode. How it is possible? Normally it should be 60FPS... Is there a diffrence between 120FPS and 60 FPS?
It runs in 120Hz and 60FPS. No difference in visual quality but better response time in 120Hz.
@@GamingTech-RUclips Thank you very much for the quick reply :)..Do you know why it runs directly in 120 FPS? Should it not be only 60FPS? is this due to the VRR? On my LG C2 its says 120Hz Fixed mode :).
@@MariusPF20 It's not 120FPS it's 120Hz. The game has now a 120Hz mode but it still runs in 60FPS. 120Hz are better then 60Hz. You have the 120Hz output set to automatic on your PS5 that's why it runs in 120Hz. Every game should do that!
@ i understand thank you .. I did noticed a difference actually..when automatic 120 hz is turned of on the ps5 pro the game runs in RGB voor space and when the 120 hz is turned on the game runs in YCBCR 422 . I can definitely see some differences between, not sure if is quality or its du to the higher range of RGB .
@@GamingTech-RUclipsthis is really interesting stuff.
So does that apply to the Quality mode, too? I.e 30fps in a 60hz container?
As the Quality mode certainly does not feel like i’m playing a 30fps game…
The quality mode looks great on the Pro... but the asset quality downgrade to performance is to high and to noticeable. I would much prefer a single Pro mode with regular PS5 quality assets and even resolution but at 60fps. Not sure CPU limitations would be a problem here.
An excellent example of a Pro patch done properly and not half assed (looking at you bloober team 😠 )
digital foundry said different during live stream....
I finally started playing this yesterday my god it looks great now. It was such a grainy mess on the ps5.
I have a 120 hz vrr tv but it's 48in. Is the pro still worth it
I think so, depends of viewing distance and your eyesight
I would think the pro is worth it for bigger TV’s. I personally bought the pro for an 85 inch
can you play game single player only & is it worth the 40 💸
If I have ps5 is it worth upgrading to ps5 pro ?