Links to the parts & pieces in the video (affiliate links) ------------------------------------ Victron 48V MultiPlus-II 5kVA 120V Inverter www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-48v-multiplus-2-5kva-120v-inverter-70a-charger/?ref=AzzpK9Fl 10kVA 120/240v Base MultiPlus-II System www.currentconnected.com/product/10kva-120-240v-multiplus-2-5kva/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron Cerbo GX www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-cerbo-gx-system-controller/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron GX Touch 7" Display www.currentconnected.com/product/gx-touch-display-cerbo-gx/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
It is interesting that these inverters just keep getting bigger and bigger, Yet our maximum power consumption is typically not nearly as much as we might think.
@@backtothepast1850 It's funny you mention that because I was thinking the same thing. I had 13kVA in my old system, now I'm down to 10kVA and I haven't had any problems running any loads. Our homes are 200a homes and we're able to run most things on much less.
Our 24v 5kVA Quattro has been powering our house for the last 14 years and has never missed a beat. It has had some abuse running two washing machines at once and even arc welder. The over temp light has been on and the overload light as well but it never cut out. The only time it’s shut down was when I was doing some wiring in the house and I shorted something. There was barely a spark and the Quattro beat the MCB to the punch. Asking the question which to choose, I wouldn’t hesitate.
@@stevenfrazier8939 This next week is supposed to be a HOT one, so I'm thinking it'll be a good time for the A/C test. I'm not sure how it'll handle a leg imbalance...but there's only one way to find out isn't there!
I wish I had bought my system through Current Connected, one of my Multi's has an issue and it's been over a month since I reported it and I'm getting crickets from the supplier support team. Like you said, having quality support is a must. My main complaint about the Lynx system is that there needs to be left and right versions of the components. I'm very tight on space as well and had to really jump through hoops to get things to fit, having an opposite hand version of the components would have made things much easier.
I know exactly what you mean about the lynx system. I had actually mentioned that in my video but ended up having to cut due to time constraints. The only way you could get around it on your own is to make a DIY bus bar that connected the sections together. You would have to add studs to one side of the bus bar and then you should be able to connect it all together.
@@AdamDeLay07 It actually went into production a few days ago. My solar project took longer than I thought it would. After getting all the panels installed, we had to do some excavation at the property to get to the main power cable because of the location where we were placing the inverter. So the 18KPV been running now for about the past 6 or 7 days and so far so good. I'm really liking it. I want to give it a full month before doing my review on it but so far so good.
Great information. We're building a 3.6kw system expressly for running a Mini-split in the garage, and charging our Ford Lightning. All this is preparation and testing for a move to an off grid location in central america, and we wanted to test some systems prior. I've been running an Epever 80amp charge controller running an off-grid art studio with 1200 watts of used panels, with a 9k BTU, 20 SEER mini-split, and it's a little underpaneled, and under-batteried, so we've been experimenting with optimizing the output with solar tracking, and input and charging optimization. A lot of people have sworn by the Victron, so I gave in and picked up a 100/50, a Cerbo-S GX, and a smart shunt. So far, I'm underwhelmed. The PV input has been less than the Epever, on days that there were more sun than the days I've run the Epever. The smartshunt software doesn't seem to display the data as clearly as the wifi app and cloud page that Epever provides, and all of this for around, twice as much for the Victron. The Cerbo connections, require another purchase and are flimsy and connect precariously. So, instead of going with a multiplus, we're going to re-purpose the Epever for the 3600 watt array and garage A/C. The lynx system is nice, and a great idea. I've often wished that bus bar makers would provide better protective covers, and the multi-outputs/fuses, are genius. I wouldn't say we're not going to get the multiplus, as I'm sensing it's going to be difficult to get ahold of one of the new Epever Inverter/chargers as I don't think they are sold in the U.S.
What do you think of your Ford Lightning? I've heard of a lot of mixed reviews. I guess I've never dealt with the Epever system before so I really can't compare to it. I am surprised though that you're seeing issues with the charge controller. The only thing I can think of is that the charge controller may be undersized for the array you're trying to use? What's the max VOC and Imp of the array? What information does the Epever provide that the shunt doesn't provide? Ultimately, if you've got something that works well for you, there's probably not much reason to change it up. :D Since you're looking to move though, it seems very wise to consider what hardware can you get in your new location. Good luck!
Thanks for the update, Adam. As always your videos are greatly appreciated! It looks like the Victron system is working well. Very glad to see that! Personally I think the Victron system is overly complicated but that's a matter of personal preference, I guess. I'm still pleased with my EG4 6500EX units. I still haven't had any problems (he said keeping his fingers crossed). They've just handled everything I've thrown at them without a glitch. Mine seem to work so much better than yours did that I find myself wondering if they're even the same units under the covers. Anyway, good luck and thanks again!
Appreciate that! I'm glad you units are still running well! Nice to hear of one success story amid all the horror stories I keep hearing. I had actually talked about the component vs AIO setup in my video but ended up cutting it out due to the fact that the video was getting long and it really wasn't "on topic". Each aspect has its place. One thing I've noticed with the AIO units is that it seems like some kind of compromise has to take place when you bring different components together and have to make them all "play nice" in a single package. The compromise could be anything from causing flickering lights to having a higher idle consumption. They are nice though if you're looking for a simple installation or you're limited in space. A component based system "should" work well because each component only has to perform one or two tasks instead of having to do multiple tasks (I say "should" because there's still garbage component based systems out there). They don't have to play well with others. If one component dies, your system can still stay up and running as opposed to having to replace the entire system if you're running an AIO. Like everything, there's plusses and minuses to each path.
Great system! If you can do a video on configuring your system through the VRM and not the MK3, I think a lot of people would appreciate that, I could not find a you tube video on that. Even my distributor didn’t know you could do it and i found out on my own like you did. My system is off grid / boat access only and I ready didn’t want to pack up my computer (don’t have a laptop) and take it to the cabin every time I needed to make a change.
After watching this I went with the Quattro as the older software on the multi plus isn’t that great . Thanks for the heads up , made me think twice . Was originally gonna buy 2 multi plus like your setup . Quattro already built in and is way easy
@@bunkeo5172 the software options for the Quattro and MultiPlus are the same. You can use their Victron Connect app for configuring most aspects of the inverters, just not the Assistants.
To your last point about taking the loads from 85% to 100%. Is there a reason why you don't just use the Victron PowerAssist function with your AC-in to pass through the Grid AC if needed? Most likely that would be quite rare occurrence and with 95-99% of your annual energy would still be inverted IF the PV+Battery setup is sufficient sized. My point is, just invest in PV+Bat and not worry about the Inverting capability by adding more inverters in parallel. PA can handle up to 70A pass though which is much more economical than getting more inverters.
It all depends on what your goals are. I would love to take everything off-grid and only use the grid power as a complete backup. I actually have the system configured how you suggest right now, but I don't have all my loads routed through the inverter. I would need more battery capacity otherwise one cake my wife bakes would drain my batteries... or a load of wash plus having the dryer run at the same time... :D I guess it all comes down to whether or not you want to have to micro-manage your loads. We haven't had to do that so far and if I can figure out how to have all my loads on solar without having to do that (even if it costs more), that would be ideal.
I was seriously thinking of getting this Victron system. However, after reviewing the Lux Power EG4 18k and the Fortress Power true 12k I am going with EG4 18K. So much easier to setup and use. and the software is terrific. and the whole thing is only $5,600. This is a real 12 kilowatt system and it will load balance each of the legs up to 8 kilowatts on one leg.
For context, the 18k is super new and wasn't an option for most with the 6500s. If I were buying today instead of a year ago, I'd probably make the same choice just to make life easier than dealing with wiring two inverters. And unfortunately I went through a reseller so i don't get perks from Signature Solar. I didn't get a chargeverter for free and I can't take advantage of the 18k discount for 6500 owners :(. I went through a reseller so I could have a payment plan. I won't do that again because I feel like a second class citizen/customer.
The downside of an all-in-one system is that if something breaks you are totally down, with a component system you are not if one part fails. Given my experience with EG4 batteries and what I have seen on the internet I will shy away from EG4 products in the future.
@@boomermatic6035 Since the 18K has been out, no one has had trouble with it, including Will Prowse. Did you catch the part about Lux Power? They make the same unit for Fortress Power and EG4. Very high quality equipment maker. Your argument about no redundancy could be said about Sol-Ark 15K and Schneider equipment and yet they just keep going for years and years. Not unlike Adam I too have the grid to fall back on, at least with my Michigan property. My new land will not have the grid so I will test it like crazy until the move.
ESS works better to maximize use of solar and battery before connecting to the grid. You can program maximum inverter power, then any loads over that amount will come from the grid.
Found out another hack. The output ac 2 can be made to work without shore or gen. also with that it can be turned on and off based on battery capacity %. between that and you finding the grid switch Victron are amazing. I am accustom to playing with plc controllers and finding tricks now to play with Victron is a whole new world. I thought you would be interested if didn't know already
Yeah there’s so many possibilities with these inverters. The customization options are crazy! If you really wana see some more customization possibilities look up “Victron Node Red”.
The reason the metal conduit doesn't fit well is they aren't designed for it. Most countries around the world use PVC conduit. Only the US seems stuck on metal. Nice build but I think the Lynx bus bars are overkill. Yeah it's fairly neat but as you pointed out the smart shunt is a better option and you could just use a standard box with a couple of copper busbars and fuses.
Holy mackerel Adam ‼️ Your system has changed since I watched last 😳 So I switched from my absolute garbage signature Solar 6.5KW all in ones to 3 5KW growatt units with a 11.4kw growatt transformer Running fantastic until I have no clue what happened the inverters had a massive spike in voltage from 240volta to 380volts And smoked all sorts of appliances heating and cooling unit garage door openers and automatic sky lights 🤮🤮🤮🤮 Signature Solar is wanting to look at the transformer which I just sent back and will only replace maybe the transformer right now nothing in my house that got compromised will be taken care of from what I was told from signature, solar, pretty, upsetting, considering they said everything was wired properly and in order I hate to say it but I’m starting to think trying to go totally off grid for my house was kinda a bad idea with all the issues I’ve had on my journey 😢 Nice looking victron system I’ve heard only good things about victron I just haven’t been able to come off that kinda money ✌🏼 BRO
Yeah lots of changes recently. That's crazy that you had things get toasted. I can't even comprehend what would have caused that spike. That really stinks. Sorry to hear about that. Let me know what you end up finding out. I'm very curious. Take care!
@@AdamDeLay07 not trying to get personal or anything but is there a way to contact you I’m really curious on this new system you installed. And it seems like we both went down this road about the same time and start at the same crappy spot LOL
Thanks as always adam. Save 3k, have more power capabilites, much simpler, cleaner install, less parts, and have flickering lights 🤔 seems like a simple conclusion to me. I have the 2 eg4 6500s supplying 13k 240v to my load center with no issues since installed on march 1st but im also completely off grid🤞
Thanks TJ. Yeah you seem to be among the lucky few. It’s unfortunate that I’m still seeing more and more issues people are having with the 6500s. I do wonder if the grid connection plays a part in some of the issues though. I’m guessing even SS came to the conclusion that the 6.5 and 6k inverters had issues and that’s why they announced the upgrade program. Keep up the great work!
@@AdamDeLay07 I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the baseline load? You seem to have a very low baseline load. I'm running 2 6500's with about a 1.5kw baseline without any real issues (only a few weeks so far. Permitting was a PITA) so far other than noise. They are loud when under load and heavy PV input load though. Time will tell, but the technology does seem to be advancing fairly quickly with more and better options available.
@@Mike80528 honesty anything is possible. Even when I had constant loads running over 1k though I still had flickering lights. Fingers crossed that things keep working well for you!
It seems to be a great inverter but I feel like they really missed the mark with the technology side of things when compared to Tesla’s software with power wall and even the EG4 PV 18. I feel like it’s not even close to that. And windows only? This is 2023 that should not be an issue. I’m pretty happy with my SP 6548 but I am using the victron lynx distribution for my bus bar and fusing. Love that convenience of all in one.! Thanks for all the videos!
Thanks for following along! I have found out in recent days that Victron has been moving their software over to the Victron Connect app which does make things a whole lot more convenient. Most of the basic settings are there, just not some of of the advanced customization yet. Still, much better than the old software.
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Screen is sick, can't wait to watch the customisation process. I am looking at the 450/100 charger you have on that wall, have you noticed any solar gain from it with the 80v turn on.
Thanks Lee! The 450/100 overview should be coming up within the next few videos. The fact that the seasons are changing so quickly here in MI make it hard to tell how much of an improvement the 450/100 is over the mppts in the 6500s because of the wonky weather we're having. I did go back though my SA logs to one of the last sunny days recorded before the 6500s came down and then I compared that data to the early days of the 450/100. I can see that the 450/100 start producing power earlier than the 6500s did. Not a whole lot, but still earlier. I would imagine if you had your panels in a clear field (or roof) with no obstructions you would see a big jump right away. Full sun doesn't hit my first set of panels till after 0700.
your videos are great. planning on a victron system and have watched every video you have since you moved to victron. Are you planning any videos about your battery intregration with Victron. In particular the coms and settings?
Appreciate that! With my current system, there really isn't any "integration" unless I want to delve into some non-traditional customization on my DIY batteries. There's no built in communication between the batteries and the inverters. It's all based on voltage or the SOC recorded by the Lynx Shunt.
I like that system, I am planning on updating my Schneider Conext SW4024 system to something else. I just don't like the Schneider software, and their customer support is horrid.
It's night and day compared to what I had in the past! I've heard that the software for Schneider isn't the best. I know Victron is constantly working on improving their software. I can't think of any competition that can beat what Victron offers from a software standpoint.
@@AdamDeLay07care is what a person does for a child. My wife says “I don’t care to” all the time.. I’m like is that a yes or no.. you said another thing I don’t care about.. which could mean that you don’t mind it, or it doesn’t bother you.
@@jasonray9655 it depends on what loads you have running and what kind of a sleeper you are. 😁 Maybe this will help: ruclips.net/video/yk2nzC6oW6w/видео.html
4 years ago i started buying Chinese solar equipment and began to play and experiment, today i have found victron equipment to be absolutely set and almost forget, it just works. Now i have a huge mountain of new equipment ill never use all new and works its all just way too much to deal with. Adjust Adjust Adjust NOPE IM DONE 😅
The last parallel system we setup, it was all done in victron connect, even the firmware was updated using victron connect. Have you tried connecting your mk3 to it?
Yeah when I tried to use Victron Connect, it kept trying to reconnect. It never really allowed me to do anything. After researching more, it looks like at this time VC only allows you to make basic changes to the multiplus 2 (change power state and charge voltage are 2 things off the top of my head). I’ve heard that Victron is working on moving everything over to VC. Can’t remember where I heard that though or how far along they are.
So I did some more digging and apparently this time I was able to successfully connect to the multiplus using VC. I do see there's actually a lot more details you can change there. Most of the basics are there anyways. It's missing some of the customization (assistants) but I would imagine most users wouldn't be using those. Thanks for the comment!
Never use a shunt if you go that far in building such a system, use a well known BMS for your battery. The BMS then delivers all the data needed and controls the inverters and MPPTs with DVCC etc. It saves money, makes the installation more easy, etc. If you go this far on an installation using a shunt like this for the batteries is a limiting factor from my point of view and not helpful. The BMS helps so much to have the control over the battery. Everything will be way simpler also from a configuration point of view as the BMS controls the charging and discharging. It's like you have built a Ferrari but are using a VW Bug steering wheel. :-) Will it work, yes potentially but is it up to the task? No. If you invest that amount of money go the extra mile and use a good BMS. With my 3-phase installation I use the BMS of the Pylontech batteries and use DVCC to limit charging power etc. The MPPTs are also externally controlled by the BMS which is with a big array important. If your shunt data is wrong you can overcharge your batteries.
A well calibrated shunt is gonna be much more accurate than a lot of the BMSs out there. I have JK BMSs and the SOC calculation in those is off in my case.
WTH, my understanding was that that was the whole point of the distributor, was to see on the app and get a notification if a fuse blows. So, there is no way to get that functionality at this moment? I was told the Smart BMS is only for systems with Victron batteries. Plus, I haven't seen it for sale. I assumed they discontinued it, since it was only 500A rated.
@@AdamDeLay07So, did Victron tell you that to get that communication, you will need to buy the new future model on the Lynx Shunt, or are they going to have a software update for the current Lynx Shunt that will provide the communication from the distributor? And what's the point of having the Lynx Shunt? It isn't needed to program the charge values to the batteries, right? Is it just for telling the cerbo what the voltage of the batteries is?
@@JonathanBixby-k2h I asked Victron a while ago and all they ended up saying was you had to have their Lynx BMS. It really seems like they could fix this with a software update because all the data should already be passed to the shunt. I’m not exactly sure what their Lynx BMS does. I’m guessing it’s specific to their batteries but I’ve never looked into it.
@@AdamDeLay07 I'm thinking I want my new system to be victron, but still unsure of everything needed. Does it make sense to get the whole lynx system (power in, shunt, distributor)? Are they all necessary, or is there a better way, that you're aware of, for connecting everything together and being able to monitor the batteries and fuses?
You really could use the inverters AC input instead as an output and power everything in your home when the sun shines and let your batteries supply the excess needed during clouds and at night. Then when your battery hits LVD the grid simply supplies the main panel as usual
Yeah, I believe that’s part of ESS, correct? I plan on looking into this at some point. Figured I would get the bases down first before I looked into the advanced config.
@@AdamDeLay07 yeah I guess ESS is what victron calls it. For quite a while I have been doing exactly that with cheapo grid tie inverters that use batteries. To me it’s the easier way to set things up. Most only need a few very essentials loads moved to be powered by the inverters AC output for the very rare power outages
Asked a question then you answered it later. I think I would go through with the 18 k eg4 system now instead of the 6500 ex but can’t afford it now even with the rebates aka full warranty buyout from SS. May just have to break and buy it anyway, have heard good things about it. Whatever happened to your 6500’s?
Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about the 18kpv. I just still have issues with their support. Right now, If I got the 18kpv, I would get it from another distributor that also handles the support. Unfortunately the upgrade program is only good through SS. With all the testing I do, I need someone to be able to answer all my questions. Right now they're sitting in boxes on my shelf. Haven't decided what I'm gonna do with them yet.
Unless you really need the extra AC IN, I don't see a point. The line between Quattro and Multiplus is starting to become very blurred and the differences are minimal from what I've seen.
You really need to configure the ESS system, it has been a wonderful addition to the system. Keep in mind I use the grid as a UPS in case my solar or battery is not enough to run my studio. Or about 500-600 watts 24/7 right now. My goal is to do the entire studio including mini-split or about 3000 watts should do it. Some days when I do labs-testing my rack can really pull the amps, been very happy with my purchase of Victron as well. Your videos are honest and I really appreciate that. I spent the money too and it was money well spent.
Yeah, that's on the list of things to do. Had to get all the little "plesentries" out of the way. I have a handful of different customizations I had originally mentioned in one of the revisions of this video, but had to trim due to time. Thanks for following along, and sharing your experiences!
Is the response of the cerbo screen due to the screen itself or the software? Is it better on your tablet? Do you know if you can connect a tablet with a wire or is there only a wireless option/bluetooth? I want/need to be able to have a screen a couple hundred feet from my system, without the use of a wireless network. I also want to have multiple screens, like more than two. Do you know if that is possible? I figured I would use a bunch of tablets, since they're less expensive than the victron screens and much larger.
The slower response of the screen is due to the software. It’s not better when you view it over wifi. Now I did a video of their beta interface and it’s 10x faster on both the display and the network. Much faster than the current interface. I’ve got a few tablets around the house that I use for remote interfaces. The display is nice because it’s usually a little faster than over the network, but ultimately a tablet works just as well.
@@AdamDeLay07Are you able use multiple tablets at once, to view the system, change settings, etc. Or is it like an account you have to login to and you can only be logged in on one device at a time?
You don’t have to get the display, and yes you can access the info from a tablet. In my case I have the display next to the system and a tablet upstairs. The display seems a little bit more responsive than the tablet. Really it’s up to you. For some people the concept of “accessing the Remote Console over the network” could be confusing to them because they’re not tech savvy, but plugging in a USB and HDMI is easy. I could also see the display being mounted in a camper or boat.
There is no perfect system for all people…I think your lucky to have such a wonderful system..I have a similar but a little smaller Victron system and I have things I don’t prefer about mine…i totally get it… But… Adaptation is the operative word..to its best use ,for you. If one has a true “10” gf that was sweet as hell , talented and had money…,,!! Now and then she’s still Gona wake up and do somthing that don’t sit well with ya… It’s the way it goes.. I never have been a fan of the lynx set up…( it’s size makes it great for mobile situation ) but not for a land based system…there are other Victron options. I built a component expanded version of the Victron lynx that has all the stuff you say your lacking… it’s waaaay more expensive but it’s waaay more stout and took a lot more work , but it’s perfect for what “I need” ..But the next guy may want a tweaks I don’t have… I’m not sure perfection is attainable . But by golly , I like your Blue system…even if it wakes up in the morning sometimes with an attitude.. Haa…. Good vid… Jim.
Im propably part of some religius thing,,,LOL I also love the freedom of Victronand i hate the Lynx Shunt and my two distributors, they need to have a shunt befor each fuse.. The shunt is aways 15-25 off at the high side...nooo god, tested with calibrated instrument But still The lynx system could be fantastic with a new shunt innside and a print board at both power in boards and power out ... Got Two power in, Lynx Shunt and two dist...
Yeah I wish that Victron would have a way to adjust the shunt voltage. I've heard of countless people reporting the issue. I'm guessing that's why a lot tend to use the Smart Shunt instead of the Lynx Shunt. It looks great and keeps things really tidy, but could be improved upon.
No, that model is 48v only. There are other options that have auto-voltage selection built in so you can use them on 12,24 or 48v. www.currentconnected.com/product-category/solar/charge-controllers/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
@@AdamDeLay07 no other option for me i have very powerfull solar pannels each doing 44 volts 410 watss i have 21 of those!!! if im not mistaken 450 volts for each leg no more then 100amp so im planing 8 to 1leg and another 8 to another leg that ahould to like 350ish and winter will rise votage so i like to have some room!!!
@@bnk28zfp that’s a lot of panels…making me jealous! The only ones with that high of voltage to my knowledge are all 48v charge controllers. I love my 450/100, but I’m not using anywhere near its potential. I need more panels…
how much AC 250volt watt can you pull for this setup?? i have mitsubishi minisplit 8 unit in one i can suck emenergy like 8000-9000 watss when it starts then contunue working like 4500watts - will it meet my need???? how big i need battery ???
Is this for split phase in the US? That unit sounds like a beast. I would imagine this pair would run it, assuming we're talking about split phase in the US. Running load per inverter would only be 2250W which is ultimately not much for these inverters. Battery and solar capacity would have to be determined based on how much power this mitsubishi uses in a 24 hour period. You could then figure out how many kWh of storage you would need.
@@bnk28zfp 2250w would be the load on each Multi-Plus when your minisplit is running. You said when it's running, it uses 4500W. For split phase, that load is split between the two inverters.
In my book something that don't work isn't worth much as in it's basically useless spend the more money and have something you spent twice so your behind now
I’ve bought expensive communist Chinese junk 12k’s and cheap communist Chinese junk 6500ex’s. I can tell you without a doubt, I’ll take the expensive stuff over pizpoor Signature Solar customer disservice.
All the items you are complaining about is avaliable on the Victron website or with questions to their eMail prior to purchasing their product. And 95% of the world is on a "Windows Machine" that is why it is that way. Maybe you should wait until you have used any system for over a year before you try to do an honest review with stats. Maybe you should have bought 2 Quatro 10K units and not have to worry about the lack of power for your 100% loads.
You do not have the Lynx plugged in to the cerbo it has no power to relay information to the VRM software 😊 there's a plug on each side of the Lynx buy another cable 😉 😀
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Links to the parts & pieces in the video (affiliate links)
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Victron 48V MultiPlus-II 5kVA 120V Inverter
www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-48v-multiplus-2-5kva-120v-inverter-70a-charger/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
10kVA 120/240v Base MultiPlus-II System
www.currentconnected.com/product/10kva-120-240v-multiplus-2-5kva/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
Victron Cerbo GX
www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-cerbo-gx-system-controller/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
Victron GX Touch 7" Display
www.currentconnected.com/product/gx-touch-display-cerbo-gx/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
It is interesting that these inverters just keep getting bigger and bigger, Yet our maximum power consumption is typically not nearly as much as we might think.
@@backtothepast1850 It's funny you mention that because I was thinking the same thing. I had 13kVA in my old system, now I'm down to 10kVA and I haven't had any problems running any loads. Our homes are 200a homes and we're able to run most things on much less.
had mine for 12 mths now , i feel this is PROBABLY THE BEST FOR THE MONEY , once you learn and get it set up
Thanks for the pros and cons. Can’t wait to see some heavy load tests also.
Our 24v 5kVA Quattro has been powering our house for the last 14 years and has never missed a beat. It has had some abuse running two washing machines at once and even arc welder. The over temp light has been on and the overload light as well but it never cut out. The only time it’s shut down was when I was doing some wiring in the house and I shorted something. There was barely a spark and the Quattro beat the MCB to the punch. Asking the question which to choose, I wouldn’t hesitate.
Thanks! You and me both!
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
It is amazing how much these little things can run!
Same here Gavin, very interested in how well they handle the heavy loads. I am interested in the leg 1 & 2 load imbalance if any.
@@stevenfrazier8939 This next week is supposed to be a HOT one, so I'm thinking it'll be a good time for the A/C test. I'm not sure how it'll handle a leg imbalance...but there's only one way to find out isn't there!
I would be very happy if they gifted that system to me! Thank you for sharing some cons and not just another glowing endorsement.
Thanks. I doubt there's any "perfect system" out there. You'll always find something that doesn't match up or work how you would expect it to.
I really like this system but I can't afford it. You have done a great job with it. Enjoying your videos
I completely understand that. Thanks for following along!
Well done, first time viewer, got yourself another sub.
Thanks!
I wish I had bought my system through Current Connected, one of my Multi's has an issue and it's been over a month since I reported it and I'm getting crickets from the supplier support team. Like you said, having quality support is a must.
My main complaint about the Lynx system is that there needs to be left and right versions of the components. I'm very tight on space as well and had to really jump through hoops to get things to fit, having an opposite hand version of the components would have made things much easier.
I know exactly what you mean about the lynx system. I had actually mentioned that in my video but ended up having to cut due to time constraints. The only way you could get around it on your own is to make a DIY bus bar that connected the sections together. You would have to add studs to one side of the bus bar and then you should be able to connect it all together.
Hey Adam, really glad to see that your new system is setup and it's working out so well for you. Great video as usual.
Thanks Henderson! Hows the 18kPV treating you? Hopefully not still in the box... 😁
@@AdamDeLay07 It actually went into production a few days ago. My solar project took longer than I thought it would. After getting all the panels installed, we had to do some excavation at the property to get to the main power cable because of the location where we were placing the inverter. So the 18KPV been running now for about the past 6 or 7 days and so far so good. I'm really liking it. I want to give it a full month before doing my review on it but so far so good.
@@hendersonsobers396 Awesome! Congratulations! Can't wait to hear how things progress!
Great information. We're building a 3.6kw system expressly for running a Mini-split in the garage, and charging our Ford Lightning. All this is preparation and testing for a move to an off grid location in central america, and we wanted to test some systems prior. I've been running an Epever 80amp charge controller running an off-grid art studio with 1200 watts of used panels, with a 9k BTU, 20 SEER mini-split, and it's a little underpaneled, and under-batteried, so we've been experimenting with optimizing the output with solar tracking, and input and charging optimization. A lot of people have sworn by the Victron, so I gave in and picked up a 100/50, a Cerbo-S GX, and a smart shunt. So far, I'm underwhelmed. The PV input has been less than the Epever, on days that there were more sun than the days I've run the Epever. The smartshunt software doesn't seem to display the data as clearly as the wifi app and cloud page that Epever provides, and all of this for around, twice as much for the Victron. The Cerbo connections, require another purchase and are flimsy and connect precariously. So, instead of going with a multiplus, we're going to re-purpose the Epever for the 3600 watt array and garage A/C. The lynx system is nice, and a great idea. I've often wished that bus bar makers would provide better protective covers, and the multi-outputs/fuses, are genius. I wouldn't say we're not going to get the multiplus, as I'm sensing it's going to be difficult to get ahold of one of the new Epever Inverter/chargers as I don't think they are sold in the U.S.
What do you think of your Ford Lightning? I've heard of a lot of mixed reviews.
I guess I've never dealt with the Epever system before so I really can't compare to it. I am surprised though that you're seeing issues with the charge controller. The only thing I can think of is that the charge controller may be undersized for the array you're trying to use? What's the max VOC and Imp of the array?
What information does the Epever provide that the shunt doesn't provide?
Ultimately, if you've got something that works well for you, there's probably not much reason to change it up. :D Since you're looking to move though, it seems very wise to consider what hardware can you get in your new location.
Good luck!
Thanks for the update, Adam. As always your videos are greatly appreciated! It looks like the Victron system is working well. Very glad to see that! Personally I think the Victron system is overly complicated but that's a matter of personal preference, I guess.
I'm still pleased with my EG4 6500EX units. I still haven't had any problems (he said keeping his fingers crossed). They've just handled everything I've thrown at them without a glitch. Mine seem to work so much better than yours did that I find myself wondering if they're even the same units under the covers.
Anyway, good luck and thanks again!
Appreciate that!
I'm glad you units are still running well! Nice to hear of one success story amid all the horror stories I keep hearing.
I had actually talked about the component vs AIO setup in my video but ended up cutting it out due to the fact that the video was getting long and it really wasn't "on topic".
Each aspect has its place.
One thing I've noticed with the AIO units is that it seems like some kind of compromise has to take place when you bring different components together and have to make them all "play nice" in a single package. The compromise could be anything from causing flickering lights to having a higher idle consumption. They are nice though if you're looking for a simple installation or you're limited in space.
A component based system "should" work well because each component only has to perform one or two tasks instead of having to do multiple tasks (I say "should" because there's still garbage component based systems out there). They don't have to play well with others. If one component dies, your system can still stay up and running as opposed to having to replace the entire system if you're running an AIO.
Like everything, there's plusses and minuses to each path.
Bought mine Aug 2022. Pure JUNK!
Great system! If you can do a video on configuring your system through the VRM and not the MK3, I think a lot of people would appreciate that, I could not find a you tube video on that. Even my distributor didn’t know you could do it and i found out on my own like you did. My system is off grid / boat access only and I ready didn’t want to pack up my computer (don’t have a laptop) and take it to the cabin every time I needed to make a change.
Sure! I think I’m provably gonna do a separate video on 3 different ways I’ve found to program the inverters.
Thanks for the info Adam :)
After watching this I went with the Quattro as the older software on the multi plus isn’t that great . Thanks for the heads up , made me think twice . Was originally gonna buy 2 multi plus like your setup . Quattro already built in and is way easy
@@bunkeo5172 the software options for the Quattro and MultiPlus are the same. You can use their Victron Connect app for configuring most aspects of the inverters, just not the Assistants.
To your last point about taking the loads from 85% to 100%. Is there a reason why you don't just use the Victron PowerAssist function with your AC-in to pass through the Grid AC if needed? Most likely that would be quite rare occurrence and with 95-99% of your annual energy would still be inverted IF the PV+Battery setup is sufficient sized. My point is, just invest in PV+Bat and not worry about the Inverting capability by adding more inverters in parallel. PA can handle up to 70A pass though which is much more economical than getting more inverters.
It all depends on what your goals are. I would love to take everything off-grid and only use the grid power as a complete backup. I actually have the system configured how you suggest right now, but I don't have all my loads routed through the inverter. I would need more battery capacity otherwise one cake my wife bakes would drain my batteries... or a load of wash plus having the dryer run at the same time... :D
I guess it all comes down to whether or not you want to have to micro-manage your loads. We haven't had to do that so far and if I can figure out how to have all my loads on solar without having to do that (even if it costs more), that would be ideal.
victron,, buy once, cry once !!
I was seriously thinking of getting this Victron system. However, after reviewing the Lux Power EG4 18k and the Fortress Power true 12k I am going with EG4 18K. So much easier to setup and use. and the software is terrific. and the whole thing is only $5,600. This is a real 12 kilowatt system and it will load balance each of the legs up to 8 kilowatts on one leg.
For context, the 18k is super new and wasn't an option for most with the 6500s. If I were buying today instead of a year ago, I'd probably make the same choice just to make life easier than dealing with wiring two inverters. And unfortunately I went through a reseller so i don't get perks from Signature Solar. I didn't get a chargeverter for free and I can't take advantage of the 18k discount for 6500 owners :(. I went through a reseller so I could have a payment plan. I won't do that again because I feel like a second class citizen/customer.
It does look like a really nice system.
Yeah, really stinks
The downside of an all-in-one system is that if something breaks you are totally down, with a component system you are not if one part fails. Given my experience with EG4 batteries and what I have seen on the internet I will shy away from EG4 products in the future.
@@boomermatic6035 Since the 18K has been out, no one has had trouble with it, including Will Prowse. Did you catch the part about Lux Power? They make the same unit for Fortress Power and EG4. Very high quality equipment maker. Your argument about no redundancy could be said about Sol-Ark 15K and Schneider equipment and yet they just keep going for years and years.
Not unlike Adam I too have the grid to fall back on, at least with my Michigan property. My new land will not have the grid so I will test it like crazy until the move.
ESS works better to maximize use of solar and battery before connecting to the grid. You can program maximum inverter power, then any loads over that amount will come from the grid.
Found out another hack. The output ac 2 can be made to work without shore or gen. also with that it can be turned on and off based on battery capacity %. between that and you finding the grid switch Victron are amazing. I am accustom to playing with plc controllers and finding tricks now to play with Victron is a whole new world. I thought you would be interested if didn't know already
Yeah there’s so many possibilities with these inverters. The customization options are crazy!
If you really wana see some more customization possibilities look up “Victron Node Red”.
The reason the metal conduit doesn't fit well is they aren't designed for it. Most countries around the world use PVC conduit. Only the US seems stuck on metal. Nice build but I think the Lynx bus bars are overkill. Yeah it's fairly neat but as you pointed out the smart shunt is a better option and you could just use a standard box with a couple of copper busbars and fuses.
Holy mackerel Adam ‼️
Your system has changed since I watched last 😳
So I switched from my absolute garbage signature Solar 6.5KW all in ones to 3 5KW growatt units with a 11.4kw growatt transformer
Running fantastic until
I have no clue what happened the inverters had a massive spike in voltage from 240volta to 380volts And smoked all sorts of appliances heating and cooling unit garage door openers and automatic sky lights 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Signature Solar is wanting to look at the transformer which I just sent back and will only replace maybe the transformer right now nothing in my house that got compromised will be taken care of from what I was told from signature, solar, pretty, upsetting, considering they said everything was wired properly and in order
I hate to say it but I’m starting to think trying to go totally off grid for my house was kinda a bad idea with all the issues I’ve had on my journey 😢
Nice looking victron system I’ve heard only good things about victron I just haven’t been able to come off that kinda money
✌🏼 BRO
Yeah lots of changes recently.
That's crazy that you had things get toasted. I can't even comprehend what would have caused that spike. That really stinks. Sorry to hear about that.
Let me know what you end up finding out. I'm very curious.
Take care!
@@AdamDeLay07 not trying to get personal or anything but is there a way to contact you I’m really curious on this new system you installed. And it seems like we both went down this road about the same time and start at the same crappy spot LOL
@@cowboymcq6711 adam@going-off-grid.com
My $125 diy 1000A bus bar, 350A Aili shunt do a great job along with my JK BMS shunts.
Thanks as always adam. Save 3k, have more power capabilites, much simpler, cleaner install, less parts, and have flickering lights 🤔 seems like a simple conclusion to me. I have the 2 eg4 6500s supplying 13k 240v to my load center with no issues since installed on march 1st but im also completely off grid🤞
Thanks TJ. Yeah you seem to be among the lucky few. It’s unfortunate that I’m still seeing more and more issues people are having with the 6500s.
I do wonder if the grid connection plays a part in some of the issues though. I’m guessing even SS came to the conclusion that the 6.5 and 6k inverters had issues and that’s why they announced the upgrade program.
Keep up the great work!
My Quattro has been running non stop now for nearly 15 years with zero issues. I wonder how many eg4s would still be running.
@@AdamDeLay07 I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the baseline load? You seem to have a very low baseline load. I'm running 2 6500's with about a 1.5kw baseline without any real issues (only a few weeks so far. Permitting was a PITA) so far other than noise. They are loud when under load and heavy PV input load though. Time will tell, but the technology does seem to be advancing fairly quickly with more and better options available.
@@Mike80528 honesty anything is possible. Even when I had constant loads running over 1k though I still had flickering lights.
Fingers crossed that things keep working well for you!
You forgot durability, victron system will most certainly last far more then the EG4 one.
It seems to be a great inverter but I feel like they really missed the mark with the technology side of things when compared to Tesla’s software with power wall and even the EG4 PV 18. I feel like it’s not even close to that. And windows only? This is 2023 that should not be an issue. I’m pretty happy with my SP 6548 but I am using the victron lynx distribution for my bus bar and fusing. Love that convenience of all in one.! Thanks for all the videos!
Thanks for following along!
I have found out in recent days that Victron has been moving their software over to the Victron Connect app which does make things a whole lot more convenient. Most of the basic settings are there, just not some of of the advanced customization yet. Still, much better than the old software.
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Screen is sick, can't wait to watch the customisation process. I am looking at the 450/100 charger you have on that wall, have you noticed any solar gain from it with the 80v turn on.
Thanks Lee!
The 450/100 overview should be coming up within the next few videos. The fact that the seasons are changing so quickly here in MI make it hard to tell how much of an improvement the 450/100 is over the mppts in the 6500s because of the wonky weather we're having.
I did go back though my SA logs to one of the last sunny days recorded before the 6500s came down and then I compared that data to the early days of the 450/100. I can see that the 450/100 start producing power earlier than the 6500s did. Not a whole lot, but still earlier. I would imagine if you had your panels in a clear field (or roof) with no obstructions you would see a big jump right away. Full sun doesn't hit my first set of panels till after 0700.
your videos are great. planning on a victron system and have watched every video you have since you moved to victron. Are you planning any videos about your battery intregration with Victron. In particular the coms and settings?
Appreciate that!
With my current system, there really isn't any "integration" unless I want to delve into some non-traditional customization on my DIY batteries. There's no built in communication between the batteries and the inverters. It's all based on voltage or the SOC recorded by the Lynx Shunt.
I like that system, I am planning on updating my Schneider Conext SW4024 system to something else. I just don't like the Schneider software, and their customer support is horrid.
It's night and day compared to what I had in the past! I've heard that the software for Schneider isn't the best.
I know Victron is constantly working on improving their software. I can't think of any competition that can beat what Victron offers from a software standpoint.
Lotta pros. Not many cons. Nice job!
I like the 15W vs 60W with my 12k's or 90W with my POS 6500ex's.
Each time you said "do not care for", you actually meant "do not like", right?
Right, I don’t care for it.
@@AdamDeLay07care is what a person does for a child. My wife says “I don’t care to” all the time.. I’m like is that a yes or no.. you said another thing I don’t care about.. which could mean that you don’t mind it, or it doesn’t bother you.
Too bad you can’t get the Distributor data via the Cerbo.
Hey Adam, whats the noise like? How far away would you have to put a cot to be able to sleep?
@@jasonray9655 it depends on what loads you have running and what kind of a sleeper you are. 😁
Maybe this will help:
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4 years ago i started buying Chinese solar equipment and began to play and experiment, today i have found victron equipment to be absolutely set and almost forget, it just works.
Now i have a huge mountain of new equipment ill never use all new and works its all just way too much to deal with. Adjust Adjust Adjust NOPE IM DONE 😅
The current stuff is definitely good for permanent installations, but there is definitely a cost associated with it compared to cheap stuff
The last parallel system we setup, it was all done in victron connect, even the firmware was updated using victron connect. Have you tried connecting your mk3 to it?
Yeah when I tried to use Victron Connect, it kept trying to reconnect. It never really allowed me to do anything. After researching more, it looks like at this time VC only allows you to make basic changes to the multiplus 2 (change power state and charge voltage are 2 things off the top of my head).
I’ve heard that Victron is working on moving everything over to VC. Can’t remember where I heard that though or how far along they are.
So I did some more digging and apparently this time I was able to successfully connect to the multiplus using VC. I do see there's actually a lot more details you can change there. Most of the basics are there anyways. It's missing some of the customization (assistants) but I would imagine most users wouldn't be using those. Thanks for the comment!
Never use a shunt if you go that far in building such a system, use a well known BMS for your battery.
The BMS then delivers all the data needed and controls the inverters and MPPTs with DVCC etc. It saves money, makes the installation more easy, etc.
If you go this far on an installation using a shunt like this for the batteries is a limiting factor from my point of view and not helpful.
The BMS helps so much to have the control over the battery. Everything will be way simpler also from a configuration point of view as the BMS controls the charging and discharging.
It's like you have built a Ferrari but are using a VW Bug steering wheel. :-) Will it work, yes potentially but is it up to the task? No. If you invest that amount of money go the extra mile and use a good BMS. With my 3-phase installation I use the BMS of the Pylontech batteries and use DVCC to limit charging power etc. The MPPTs are also externally controlled by the BMS which is with a big array important. If your shunt data is wrong you can overcharge your batteries.
A well calibrated shunt is gonna be much more accurate than a lot of the BMSs out there. I have JK BMSs and the SOC calculation in those is off in my case.
WTH, my understanding was that that was the whole point of the distributor, was to see on the app and get a notification if a fuse blows. So, there is no way to get that functionality at this moment? I was told the Smart BMS is only for systems with Victron batteries. Plus, I haven't seen it for sale. I assumed they discontinued it, since it was only 500A rated.
Yeah I don’t really understand why it only works with the Lynx BMS either. It could be a simple change to pass the data through the shunt.
@@AdamDeLay07So, did Victron tell you that to get that communication, you will need to buy the new future model on the Lynx Shunt, or are they going to have a software update for the current Lynx Shunt that will provide the communication from the distributor? And what's the point of having the Lynx Shunt? It isn't needed to program the charge values to the batteries, right? Is it just for telling the cerbo what the voltage of the batteries is?
@@JonathanBixby-k2h I asked Victron a while ago and all they ended up saying was you had to have their Lynx BMS. It really seems like they could fix this with a software update because all the data should already be passed to the shunt.
I’m not exactly sure what their Lynx BMS does. I’m guessing it’s specific to their batteries but I’ve never looked into it.
@@AdamDeLay07 I'm thinking I want my new system to be victron, but still unsure of everything needed. Does it make sense to get the whole lynx system (power in, shunt, distributor)? Are they all necessary, or is there a better way, that you're aware of, for connecting everything together and being able to monitor the batteries and fuses?
You really could use the inverters AC input instead as an output and power everything in your home when the sun shines and let your batteries supply the excess needed during clouds and at night. Then when your battery hits LVD the grid simply supplies the main panel as usual
Yeah, I believe that’s part of ESS, correct? I plan on looking into this at some point. Figured I would get the bases down first before I looked into the advanced config.
@@AdamDeLay07 yeah I guess ESS is what victron calls it. For quite a while I have been doing exactly that with cheapo grid tie inverters that use batteries. To me it’s the easier way to set things up. Most only need a few very essentials loads moved to be powered by the inverters AC output for the very rare power outages
Asked a question then you answered it later. I think I would go through with the 18 k eg4 system now instead of the 6500 ex but can’t afford it now even with the rebates aka full warranty buyout from SS. May just have to break and buy it anyway, have heard good things about it. Whatever happened to your 6500’s?
Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about the 18kpv. I just still have issues with their support. Right now, If I got the 18kpv, I would get it from another distributor that also handles the support. Unfortunately the upgrade program is only good through SS. With all the testing I do, I need someone to be able to answer all my questions.
Right now they're sitting in boxes on my shelf. Haven't decided what I'm gonna do with them yet.
should have gone for a couple of quatro's, really belt the wallet
Unless you really need the extra AC IN, I don't see a point. The line between Quattro and Multiplus is starting to become very blurred and the differences are minimal from what I've seen.
Has the Lynx Smart BMS 1000 fixed the issues you found with the Lynx Shunt 1000?
I don't have the Lynx Smart BMS. If I recall, I was just mentioning in order to have some of the features work properly, you had to have the Lynx BMS.
1st, now to watch the video.
You really need to configure the ESS system, it has been a wonderful addition to the system. Keep in mind I use the grid as a UPS in case my solar or battery is not enough to run my studio. Or about 500-600 watts 24/7 right now. My goal is to do the entire studio including mini-split or about 3000 watts should do it. Some days when I do labs-testing my rack can really pull the amps, been very happy with my purchase of Victron as well. Your videos are honest and I really appreciate that. I spent the money too and it was money well spent.
Yeah, that's on the list of things to do. Had to get all the little "plesentries" out of the way.
I have a handful of different customizations I had originally mentioned in one of the revisions of this video, but had to trim due to time.
Thanks for following along, and sharing your experiences!
Is the response of the cerbo screen due to the screen itself or the software? Is it better on your tablet? Do you know if you can connect a tablet with a wire or is there only a wireless option/bluetooth? I want/need to be able to have a screen a couple hundred feet from my system, without the use of a wireless network. I also want to have multiple screens, like more than two. Do you know if that is possible? I figured I would use a bunch of tablets, since they're less expensive than the victron screens and much larger.
The slower response of the screen is due to the software. It’s not better when you view it over wifi.
Now I did a video of their beta interface and it’s 10x faster on both the display and the network. Much faster than the current interface.
I’ve got a few tablets around the house that I use for remote interfaces. The display is nice because it’s usually a little faster than over the network, but ultimately a tablet works just as well.
@@AdamDeLay07Are you able use multiple tablets at once, to view the system, change settings, etc. Or is it like an account you have to login to and you can only be logged in on one device at a time?
What is the touch screen for? you can access the same data through a simple Web browser anywhere (just get a cheap tablet)
You don’t have to get the display, and yes you can access the info from a tablet. In my case I have the display next to the system and a tablet upstairs. The display seems a little bit more responsive than the tablet. Really it’s up to you. For some people the concept of “accessing the Remote Console over the network” could be confusing to them because they’re not tech savvy, but plugging in a USB and HDMI is easy.
I could also see the display being mounted in a camper or boat.
sure I put on my boat a tablet, works perfectly @@AdamDeLay07
I am going to by a 5kva for a backup of my backup solar system😂
There is no perfect system for all people…I think your lucky to have such a wonderful system..I have a similar but a little smaller Victron system and I have things I don’t prefer about mine…i totally get it…
But…
Adaptation is the operative word..to its best use ,for you.
If one has a true “10” gf that was sweet as hell , talented and had money…,,!!
Now and then she’s still Gona wake up and do somthing that don’t sit well with ya…
It’s the way it goes..
I never have been a fan of the lynx set up…( it’s size makes it great for mobile situation ) but not for a land based system…there are other Victron options.
I built a component expanded version of the Victron lynx that has all the stuff you say your lacking… it’s waaaay more expensive but it’s waaay more stout and took a lot more work , but it’s perfect for what “I need” ..But the next guy may want a tweaks I don’t have…
I’m not sure perfection is attainable .
But by golly , I like your Blue system…even if it wakes up in the morning sometimes with an attitude..
Haa….
Good vid…
Jim.
Third inverter or secondary slave ..
?
@@AdamDeLay07get a secondary slave inverter, more power!!
Im propably part of some religius thing,,,LOL
I also love the freedom of Victronand i hate the Lynx Shunt and my two distributors, they need to have a shunt befor each fuse..
The shunt is aways 15-25 off at the high side...nooo god, tested with calibrated instrument
But still The lynx system could be fantastic with a new shunt innside and a print board at both power in boards and power out ...
Got Two power in, Lynx Shunt and two dist...
Yeah I wish that Victron would have a way to adjust the shunt voltage. I've heard of countless people reporting the issue. I'm guessing that's why a lot tend to use the Smart Shunt instead of the Lynx Shunt.
It looks great and keeps things really tidy, but could be improved upon.
a victron 48 volt 450-100 can i modify it to 12 volt battery?
No, that model is 48v only. There are other options that have auto-voltage selection built in so you can use them on 12,24 or 48v.
www.currentconnected.com/product-category/solar/charge-controllers/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
@@AdamDeLay07 no other option for
me i have very powerfull solar pannels each doing 44 volts 410 watss i have 21 of those!!! if im not mistaken 450 volts for each leg no more then 100amp so im planing 8 to 1leg and another 8 to another leg that ahould to like 350ish and winter will rise votage so i like to have some room!!!
@@AdamDeLay07 one more for me add one more 450-100!!! to add rest of the pannels
@@bnk28zfp that’s a lot of panels…making me jealous! The only ones with that high of voltage to my knowledge are all 48v charge controllers. I love my 450/100, but I’m not using anywhere near its potential. I need more panels…
@@bnk28zfp if you had 3 more of your 410w panels, you could look at the 450/200 and have 3 separate, isolated strings of 8 panels a piece.
how much AC 250volt watt can you pull for this setup?? i have mitsubishi minisplit 8 unit in one i can suck emenergy like 8000-9000 watss when it starts then contunue working like 4500watts - will it meet my need???? how big i need battery ???
Is this for split phase in the US?
That unit sounds like a beast. I would imagine this pair would run it, assuming we're talking about split phase in the US. Running load per inverter would only be 2250W which is ultimately not much for these inverters.
Battery and solar capacity would have to be determined based on how much power this mitsubishi uses in a 24 hour period. You could then figure out how many kWh of storage you would need.
@@AdamDeLay07 2250w ac only from- 2x multiplus II 48-5000?
battery i have 3840wh x4 = 15360 kwt?
@@bnk28zfp 2250w would be the load on each Multi-Plus when your minisplit is running. You said when it's running, it uses 4500W. For split phase, that load is split between the two inverters.
@@bnk28zfp 4 3840wh batteries would be 15.3kWh. Are these 48v batteries?
In my book something that don't work isn't worth much as in it's basically useless spend the more money and have something you spent twice so your behind now
I’ve bought expensive communist Chinese junk 12k’s and cheap communist Chinese junk 6500ex’s. I can tell you without a doubt, I’ll take the expensive stuff over pizpoor Signature Solar customer disservice.
All the items you are complaining about is avaliable on the Victron website or with questions to their eMail prior to purchasing their product.
And 95% of the world is on a "Windows Machine" that is why it is that way.
Maybe you should wait until you have used any system for over a year before you try to do an honest review with stats.
Maybe you should have bought 2 Quatro 10K units and not have to worry about the lack of power for your 100% loads.
Thanks for your opinion and comment.
You do not have the Lynx plugged in to the cerbo it has no power to relay information to the VRM software 😊 there's a plug on each side of the Lynx buy another cable 😉 😀
I do have the Lynx shunt plugged into the Cerbo. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t see the battery data on the display.