I think aquinas wrote that way because he said someone who couldn't close the doubt was a sign of a wolf in sleep clothes. Which is true, it can be manipulative to ask questions to a person with doubt and then not resolve it, either because they dont know or the answer reveals deciet. Many of us are trained from a young age to stop asking deeper questions because the authority doesn't know the answer. Aquanis does seem saint like.
"There is a unity [in the church catholic] that runs deeper than institutions... a unity that is invisible." I'll say. I've never seen it in Protestantism (and I was in 46 years). I know there is a desire to show connectivity between the Reformers and the Church Fathers... but that connectivity must be understood within the context of real Catholic Unity (Big "C" Catholic). Calvin can take Augustine's teaching on the doctrines of grace and say that he is merely continuing in that Patristic tradition, but Augustine was unapologetically part of the Catholic Church... and would have spurned Calvin as a rebel for his schismatic actions alone-- not just his heretical views of the sacraments (which Augustine would have also denounced-- among other positions). I would be curious to get these men's views on Augustine's devotion to the Catholic Church. "[S]chismatics...in wicked separations break off from brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe." (from Augustine's "Faith and the Creed")
If there is so much continuity, and catholicity why not invite Catholics from your local parish in Ambler, Pa to join in communion with those who have reaponded to the effectial call by celebrating communion together? Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Ambler, Pa does not believe in transibstatiation dies it?
Barrett and Trueman are powerhouses. So appreciative of their work!
Thanks for this discussion. Looking forward to Barrett's forthcoming book!
So very, very helpful and important. Great stuff!
Wow! Oro puro. Magistral!
Interesting and helpful!
Will the Trueman lecture in November be filmed and put online?
Rightly Divided, Read David F.Wells for better clarity on this Church History confusion episode.
I think aquinas wrote that way because he said someone who couldn't close the doubt was a sign of a wolf in sleep clothes. Which is true, it can be manipulative to ask questions to a person with doubt and then not resolve it, either because they dont know or the answer reveals deciet. Many of us are trained from a young age to stop asking deeper questions because the authority doesn't know the answer. Aquanis does seem saint like.
This is gold!
Man that was good !
The shoes and socks....
They could wear safari suits and brown leather shoes.......
How dare Carl Trueman call out Leighton Flowers like that!
Leighton likes to call out others, so it's fair for him to get called out.
45:00 Interesting. Luther: "We gave the people the Gospel, and they behaved like irrational swine."
"There is a unity [in the church catholic] that runs deeper than institutions... a unity that is invisible." I'll say. I've never seen it in Protestantism (and I was in 46 years). I know there is a desire to show connectivity between the Reformers and the Church Fathers... but that connectivity must be understood within the context of real Catholic Unity (Big "C" Catholic). Calvin can take Augustine's teaching on the doctrines of grace and say that he is merely continuing in that Patristic tradition, but Augustine was unapologetically part of the Catholic Church... and would have spurned Calvin as a rebel for his schismatic actions alone-- not just his heretical views of the sacraments (which Augustine would have also denounced-- among other positions). I would be curious to get these men's views on Augustine's devotion to the Catholic Church. "[S]chismatics...in wicked separations break off from brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe." (from Augustine's "Faith and the Creed")
If there is so much continuity, and catholicity why not invite Catholics from your local parish in Ambler, Pa to join in communion with those who have reaponded to the effectial call by celebrating communion together? Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Ambler, Pa does not believe in transibstatiation dies it?
The English reformation was done to achieve a divirce for the British Monarch.
That's only partly true because there were movements happening before that.
Scotus over Thomas on univocity and simplicity. Thomas over Scotus on intellectualism than voluntarism