How GREY GOO Could Destroy *Everything*
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- "Grey goo" or self-replicating nanomachines is a classic sci-fi apocalypse scenario, but how likely is it, and how bad could it be?
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The Felicity Smoak joke has me cackling, Kyle. /Kyle/ 👀
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Kyle, I have a question for ya. I’m taking high school physics this Tuesday and is there anything I should know before hand?
Kyle Hill I never knew I could replicate myself.
Self replicating near-indestructible nano-machine is already ubiquitous in earth's ecosystem, working at their best thermodynamically, I would claim. We just falsely belittle them, and refer to them as bacteria and viruses. The one true dominant apocalyptic life-form, which are conveniently invisible to our naked eyes. No it's not just flu. It's Gray Goo.
Every time I hear Kyle say "Nano-machines", I hear Senator Armstrong flexing "Nano-machines Son!'
Whahaha I forgot all about that thank you🤣💪
Stole my joke 3 months early >:(
R u l e s o f n a t u r e
LETS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
Played college ball, ya know
Coulda gone pro if he hadn't joined the navy
Normal people: This is scary!
Imperial Inquisition: Eh. Tuesday.
nah brother, thats wednesday. tuesday's literal demons teleporting out of a rift in space.
@@vb1564 thats every otger Wednesday - normal Wednesday's are when Jimmy Space's bad grandkids bully us until his cool grandkids come and save us
I don't remember grey goo being a problem in the 40k universe.
There is no human machine that does that, nor any "plague" of the sort. The closest is Tyrannids, but their more threatening aspect isn't that they turn biomass into goo, it's the Genestealer cults. By the time the biomass goo is a problem, it's a bit late.
There could be some derelict machine from the Dark Age of Technology that could do that, but it's not like it's a galaxy wide issue.
I feel this is just such necron style technology.
But then it all began with this guy's idea, what a damn crazy scientist to create this idea
And yet im thankful for the culture i enjoy now through stories
Yes
Me: I wonder what Kyle's new video's gonna be about
Kyle: *NANOMACHINES, SON!*
I knew I would find this meme within seconds
@@kanrahatake3626 I was really hoping to be the first one :D
"How does apocalypse happened?"
" *Nanomachines, son* "
"Nanomachines?!"
They harden in response to physical trauma
I read a book called "Level 5" that (spoiler alert) ended in a gray goo scenario. I was impressed how it accounted for things like waste heat, wind speed, and travel time. To get around this the villain mailed time-delayed samples to major cities.
Did the nanomachines suceed?
Lest me guest ..Fed ex???
Who's the author? Can't find the book by searching "Level 5".
@@0lemus0lent05 I’ve never read it but based on my cursory look into it, it looks like it was written by William Ledbetter.
"So this gray goo, it can self-replicate by breaking down essential ressources ?"
"Nah, son, it hardens in response to physical trauma."
Exponential growth;
"Everything is fine, right up until it isn't"
It's super-sneaky too - from the graphs, it takes the longest to ramp up (become noticeable) but then most quickly goes to "end of the world" once it does!
If you scale down the y-axis of an exponential growth by half, you only move the plot 1 unit to the right.
Why is this so accurate lol
@@zjz1 i understand all of those words separately
I mean. One would assume that if nanomachines like that existed, that they'd be programmed to only target certain materials etc. And not just replicate themselves out of anything. If we assume they malfunctioned so bad that they couldnt even recognize "friendlies" i'd also assume the malfuntion would not allow them to recognize other nanobots, meaning once certain size of the swarm was reached, theyd probably start cannibalizing themselves and make nanobots out of other nanobots, constantly growing and shrinking the size of the swarm without making meaningful progress on making actual new nanobots.
Which is why Drexler was working from the assumption that the machines malfunctioned in some way that allowed them to bypass that limitation. It also requires remembering to place those kinds of limitations and work out any possible loopholes. If their task is given more weight than not consuming outside certain materials, the intelligence will ignore that limitation in favor of the assigned task. Some believe the intelligence may determine that converting other materials to the allowed materials to continue performing the primary task.
When you create something so simple and "basic", programming is not really what is going on. It is more like "existential behaviour". They can only perform a certain function which is based entirely on their very simplistic construction. Like "Carbon goes in, stuff comes out", or how atoms have a "function" or "behaviour" based on their structure. And such simple existences are prone to random change. Small errors in the self-replicating mechanism, or the core function("eat carbon") "mutating" due to external influences like radiation(heat, UV etc.).
Mutations will inevitably occur when anything self replicates.
ya, and that's if there isn't some process that requires engineered materials, like say doped silica which they're not going to be able to replicate it at their scale as you need a special electron gun or nuclear reactor to generate that stuff
the only analogue we have for nanobots is bacteria and there isn't any bacteria that grows completely out of control
That's interesting, I haven't heard anyone mention that aspect of it. And regarding safety measures built into their programming, you could imagine this "accidental release" scenario being where one of them gets out before that safety is added, or with an error in the safeguard that prevents it actually stopping the nanomachine.
Kyle: "The entire world in two hours"
Me: But what about heat generation? This is stup...
Kyle: "literally vaporizing the fuel they intend to use"
Me: "ah, my man delivers."
Still wondering why you have a check mark 😅
@@bellSmell lol. I really don't know.
You ass-u-me that they don't use heat for energy. Think Stirling Engine, or dissimilar metal.
@@imwacc0834 stirling engines still lose energy to heat through friction
@@imwacc0834 Those kinds of heat engines run on the principle of extracting energy from a heat gradient. Basically as heat flows from hot to cold regions, it releases energy, but there can be no energy extracted from a state where everything is the same temperature. If the virus couldn't maintain that gradient without expending the energy needed to make it, it would not be able to get meaningful amounts of energy from heat alone.
Humans: Where did that come from?
The sludge that's rapidly encompassing and disassembling the Earth: It's nanotech, you like it?
"Alcohol and Netflix"
Specifically, Grey Goose and Grey's Anatomy.
;)
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
too much goo
Klever X-D now that's using grEy matter
Quality banter
"Like humans do with alcohol... and netflix" one minute in and its already an amazing video, keep up the good work.
i feel personally attacked :)
@@bengilbert2780 good
One minute in and they already started replicating? Oh, my good Lord! 😂😂😂
I shared the video three minutes in. One of my favorites as far as his jokes go
On topic though, this made me think of the game Horizon: Zero Dawn. [SPOILERS AHEAD] This was self-replicating machines that caused an apocalypse by destroying the biosphere. Those these were not nano, I imagine they used some similar processes. The game goes on to have a separate AI, with stored away materials, seed banks, and embryos eventually calculating the shut down code for the machines who destroyed everything and then using it's own machines to rebuild a stable biosphere and eventually repopulate it. One of my favorite games really.
Great game.
Completly on point, the ignition in that scenario was (of course) human greed
@@claudioroperti4785 Combined with stupidity
Horizon: Zero Dawn has the most unique setting of any game in recent memory. it is simply breathtaking
I am having strange coincidences today. Last night I watched a video that mentioned world eating gray goo, then I see this video. And I see your comment, the day I decide to play Horizon Zero Dawn again
Fun fact: this has an official "NK-class" grey goo scenario in the SCP wiki.
Uz-class a bad?
I'm not the least surprised xD
I just discovered SCP and I’m obsessed
@@charlieshek3465 Good luck
Anyone have the number?
I thought that the "gray" part was because the nanomachine didn't have a good or bad intention, so it wasn't black or white, just gray
Now, this is a guy who deserves a RUclips original series.
Wait, we renamed the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way "Kevin" too.
Love your content
You mean Sagittaritus A*
@@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 You mean Kevin
Eye of terror
Sagittarius a
Kevin
Big chungus
Pucci
it was always Kevin or Wankershim
Me: What is grey goo?
Senator Armstrong: Nanomachines, son!
❤❤❤
They harden in response to physical trauma!!!
You can't hurt me Jack!
Aria is trying to throw us off Kyle's supervillian ways by associating him with a superhero
Not convinced, Felicity is the Q/tech support not Speedy
I see Kyle as more of a fusion between Felicity and Oliver.
I'd say Felicity is a villain. She murdered the show.
@@brewdaly1873 I wouldn't know. I was just guessing she was a good guy/girl...whatever, not a villain is my point
@@Mate397 ...........hmmm............
Greg Bear's "Blood Music" is one of the most haunting novels I've ever read. A profound ending. It's also a "grey goo" apocalypse story.
“Hey putting on that mask looked pretty easy.”
“You’re right Aria, that WAS easy!”
Stares intensely
😂😂😂
Being honest, I doubt people that doesn't likes to use masks watches this channel.
Elisabet Sobek: "About 15 months."
Kyle Hill: "About 20 months."
Horizon: Zero Dawn was right :o
Also the nanomachines in H: ZD were only going after biomass not all matter so it makes sense that they would work faster too
Wouldn't "lesser Grey goo" be an appropriate term to what happened in Horizon: zero dawn.
@@jordandavis8875 in HZD weren't nanomachines just big machines with almost the same capacities that kyle described in the video
Huh, it's been a while since I played that game. I must have misremembered.
@@DriverJX The Faro Plague machines did use nano-disassemblers to harvest matter to replicate, so they were essentially grey goo with extra steps. I also wouldn't be shocked if the Horuses used nanites as part of the process to build the other Chariot models.
"Easy Mask" fadeaway glare = exponentially hilarious
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I came to the comments to say exactly this only to find someone with my name already did. Am I self replicating and don't know it?
@@nathanielroberts7282 Actual bacteria dude
@@nathanielroberts7282 He needs to add that picture to his merch complete with sarcastic dialogue
Even with fuel and environment throttling the growth rate, perseverance would eventually win out. We can't even eradicate something as slow growing as kudzu.
What's kudzu?
@@gronklevlonkle1717 Invasive species plant/vine from asia. Driving through the southern US you see a large patch of trees and powerpoles engulfed and smothered by this vine. each tendril can grow a foot or more per day.
That's because not enough people care about the ecosystem to put serious effort into stopping some naughty vines. I think we'd be in a biiit more of a hustle and budget to stop something literally dissembling the world.
We’re not building anything as good as kudzu, or even basic bacteria. Why do people assume we can just make a better nano machine than nature has already?
I learned exponential growth from the legend of the rice and chessboard.
@Michael Enquist LOL, thanks:)
Title: Grey Goo
in the video: Gray Goo
*why would you do this*
"Gray" is a color. "Grey" is a descriptor.
The greys are gray.
Oooh
@@ShawnPitman I think of it as gray is a color, Grey is an Erin.
Grey is the colour here in the UK. Just sayin'.
grAy = America
grEy = England
Shawn Pitman wait really? Good to know!
Me: Would it end the world for science to make a way for a cow to be cooked instantly?
Kyle Hill: ........well actually......
🤮
His old show i could see him pulling out an imaginary torch and explaining why it would have to be so many thousands of degrees in order for it to effectively do what you were wanting.
Because Science
@@christianheichel instant cook a cow with thousands of degrees? Might be appealing to some, but it reminds me of a fucking crematorium!
Imagine a spherical cow in a vacuum...
@@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT That's beautiful 😅. Modern art at its best. Lol
"Will grey goo destroy earth"
Please stop giving 2020 an idea
Stop
You are cancer
@@dannymckenzie8329 you coulda just put them in the same comment dude. Very big brain times for you my friend!
Ah shiiiii. T here we GO AGAIN
Thankfully its 2021 now.
But still don’t encourage it.
Just on politicians alone they seem to always manage to screw up worse.
This is the definition of terrifying!!!! "The Day The Earth Stood Still" but real life!!!! As always, thank you to the very nerdy Kyle for being awesome on this here video!
Things like the coffee cup falling in the background (1:40) and the pole being in the fore-ground (10:17) give a real sense of depth and space to the facility. I'd love to see more things like this!
Saw the title and it immediately made me think of Michael Crichton’s book Prey. In it a company develops a way to make self replicating nano-bots but it goes downhill when they escape the lab. It’s an excellent book that I highly recommend!
I read that book. It changed how I perceived technology.
@@electronicmayonnaise5692 Same here! It’s definitely a scary scenario that isn’t really that outlandish. Especially considering what they were developing it for originally. Once that tech is feasible there will be plenty of money going into R&D for it’s development in the medical field. It seems plausible enough to me.
Interesting concept, but the book was terrible.
yo i was thinking the same thing
Isn't it been made into a game? Prey?
"Putting on that mask was easy"
"You're right A.R.I.A, it was easy!"
👁️⬛👁️
Hahahha if I only had a nickel for every time some one said that wearing a mask is "hard".... Id have a total of..... Oh wait... None
It's also stupid and pointless :)
@@3nertia Wearing a mask or complaining about it?
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Wearing one. Complaining about shit that doesn't make sense is the *smart* thing to do ;)
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Do you enjoy trying to swat mosquitoes with a tennis racket because that is what it's like trying to stop a virus with a piece of fabric; just gotta placate the cowards I guess ...
"~consume enhance replicate~"
- SIVA Directive
Siva isn’t gray goo really. Almost, it has some similarities, but not quite grey goo. That is possible the most gray-goo quote ever though.
I scroll down to a random spot in the comments and of course I find a reference to my favorite game!
Siva is not gray goo since rasputin still controls it. Fallen siva is gray goo.
@arse stain yeah and now siva might be a problem
@arse stain maybe this will be the new narrative if outbreak perfected is returning
Hey Kyle, love the show. Have you heard about Stanisław Lem? He was a polish Sci-fi author, he wrote a book "Niezwyciężony" (the english title is "Invincible") one of the major plot points were self-replicating, disassembling nanomachines. I'll just add that it was published in 1964
You know, I'd never considered the possibility that Kyle was a dual-aspected shape shifting entity....
This reminds me of a story I read a few years back called Passenger by Scott Sigler. It involves a group of marines who were sent in to “handle” a sudden rise of zombie-like combatants. The culprit and main antagonist of the story turned out to be a batch of malfunctioning nano-bandages that would cause the victims to obsessively seek out and consume biomass to allow the nanotechnology to continue to replicate, repair and improve their host.
More thoughts on why gray goo is implausible:
- How's it getting the energy? Neither our large scale energy structures nor biology are able to harness from nearly any source using a single structure. And a more versatile energy source might add complexity - more ways it can break. ...Maybe less advantage for outcompeting all of biology too?
- Error-prone replication. It needs to know how to build more of itself. So I'm drawing analogy to DNA repair. And therefore the idea that corrupted schematics could lead to malfunctioning/an evolutionary advantage to lines that have more controlled growth.
- Degradation over time. If the gray goo doesn't repair itself, expect a higher death rate to offset the replication rate.
It would likely turn itself into a fusion plant, or combust hydrogen, all incorrect copies would be destroyed anyway, see above. There ya go
You're basically making life from first principles.
Yuuup
I think the biggest problem is matter conversion.
How do they actually manipulate atomic structures in order to replicate. It takes a lot of energy to break atomic bonds and even more to brake nuclear bonds.
How does it apply this energy and not damage itself. Or even contain enough energy at any point in time to do this.
Also as the atoms and structures are in an intermediate state how does it prevent unwanted reactions forming elements it doesn't need. We are talking about manipulating protons and neutrons here to form specific atoms.
If it cant to molecular manufacturing on a sub-atomic scale they need to actually find all the resources in naturally occuring forms or steal them from other man made objects.
It just keeps getting worse from there.
That figured in roughly 12 nano fibers/ goo per sq 12 miles
"Alcohol and Netflix" 😂
that wasn't really that funny.
I died.
We had this concept in "Jason 2" which takes place in space (I think) and this technology was used to *self-heal/self regenerate* damaged parts of the human body.
Great video! I'm a little disappointed that green goo (Alastair Reynolds' greenfly) wasn't included. Greenfly specifically turns everything into verdant habitats. But, it's hard to live in one of you've been deconstructed to make it.
0:26 "planet sized computers"
Matrioska brain : those are rookie numbers ...
6:35 missed opportunity for a “nanomachines son”
no muscle metal
yesss im the 69th like lol 😂
@@seprex5695its still at 69 likes after a year
I laughed so hard at the "Increase of COVID-19 in the population of very, very intelligent people at Florida beaches."
lol lol.......that was funny
I live on south beach and its empty.... I saw on the news that alot of smart Californians are having rolling blackout while there is a heat wave going on, its pushing ppl to the beaches.
@@Mate397 Except he mentioned in one of the live streams there was data that said the protests and riots had almost no impact on the increase in cases.
@@Mate397 Kyle's political jokes are very cringe worthy .
Mate397 it’s crazy, when you see people rioting and most of them are wearing masks and protesting actual tyranny, and they aren’t causing a significant spike in cases because the masks work, it’s almost like there’s some kind of explanation
We may have a lot of time to deal with it, but actually catching all of the nanobots would not be an easy task. While I am aware of the fact that these bots are not sentient, since they are this small and would probably ride on the wind, sink into the oceans, etc. you would probably have to EMP the entire planet to be sure you got them all. So no, not instant, but it still seems impossible to properly stop. Unless you want to build domes that have protection against gra/ey goo and let the rest of the world rot. Which sounds like a loose to me.
Otherwise great episode, Kyle, love the show. Keep your masks up (OVER YOUR NOSE!) everyone ;)
Just have a very small EMP in the nanobot itself and make it not connected to the other nanobot circuitry that way you can have a kill switch so destroy every single nanobot
Imagine all the mini nuclear explosions that would occur as robots started tearing atoms apart.
That’s not quite how nuclear weapons work
@@jameson1239 It IS more or less how nuclear weapons work.
However, tearing atoms apart isn't how nano-machines work. They work by tearing MOLECULES apart. That's why there would be no nuclear explosions from the replication, because no atoms are torn apart, only the molecules, atom by atom.
Blake Lonsdale-Cook yes but nuclear weapons confine the atom being ripped apart until it created a big enough chain reaction that it’s casing can’t contain it
@@jameson1239 and if you have millions or billions of these reactions happening per second, what's the difference except the energy release being more spread out?
Blake Lonsdale-Cook if it’s more spread out it will just get really hot out like turn the atmosphere into plasma hot but it won’t explode
I love passive aggressive "put your masks on, stop being idiots." Kyle.
Sadly enough people cannot stop being dumb... humanity is devolving
It would be nice to not have politics in my science video. Maybe people would believe scientists more if their agendas weren't on such obvious display.
@@nbonasoro How is using masks about politics? It is literally about science, so it definitely belongs here.
@@nbonasoro Well, too bad, we have to. Because there are literally *millions* of borderline braindead people out there that think the coronavirus is a hoax and that wearing a mask won't do anything.
@@stspy212 You would get better results treating those people as autonomous peers who have the right to decide for themselves what they do, and then have a conversation to convince them. Instead, we have a governor whose powers were removed by the state supreme court only to say she won't follow the decision and enforce her orders through other means. It gives opposition moral high ground.
Wait wait wait.
You're trying to tell me that it's both easy to put a mask on, AND it can cover my nose as well? According to my study is nearly impossible for both of those conditions to exist.
Lol u are so funny... I cant wait until u confront someone and tell them yourself... Keep us posted you virtuous soul. I bet rubbing your nose in other ppls business will work out fantastic for you in the end
@@raypimienta7670 lol
@@raypimienta7670 /sigh.....
@@raypimienta7670 we got a woosh here lads
@@raypimienta7670 you see, masks aren't for your protection. They're for everyone else's. My safety absolutely is my business and I'll tell you off right quick if you don't wear one properly.
As a Destiny player, with the initial explanation of the problem, I just heard SIVA
Vex enter panic mode.
SIVA has probably the best and simplest failsafe against grey goo-ification I've come across so far: intentional imperfect replication. Perfected SIVA can only be made in a replication chamber (a LARGE macro-structure), and SIVA which replicates itself will only result in lower-grade SIVA, eventually to the point that the replicated SIVA is non-viable. This mechanism DRASTICALLY slows down the likeliness and spread-rate of malfunctioning or malicious SIVA. While it is true that SIVA can start erroneously creating structures en-mass (such as in Rise Of Iron), including theoretically creating new replication chamber, this still prevents the truly rapid, exponential growth required for a grey goo (or in this case, red goo) situation from occuring.
... The Vex on the other hand, that's a whole different matter.
@@almachizit3207 That is actually a very good fail safe. Just don't let it make another effective replicator.
My dude's just describing Horizon Zero Dawn, and it scares me.
Check the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008)
This is what he describes
I love the obvious shade. It's so obvious I don't even need to reference it.
Dude, it's absolutely brilliant and I appreciate him taking a chance and doing it
Most gamers didn't paid attention, but in Horizon Zero Dawn the Ted Faro's machines (the black ones) have created the gray goo. That's why it took a millenia for Gaia to release the new humans.
Edit: Gaia didn't took that much time to end the Faro's plague, it took just a 100 years. The rest of the time was just the terraforming process. You can actually see the nanomachines as dust in a cutscene when Hades revives all the Khopesh machines nearby.
Not true actually
@@kaelanirevyruun1676
At the end of the game Hades revives the nanomachines.
And through the game that is explained when a hologram of a gray Earth is showed.
In reality, Gaia took a century or so to calculate and formulate the final killcode for the Chariots, and then took another few hundred years to reconstitute the world with flora and fauna, and finally humans again, resulting in approximately 1000 years (I think? Cos I think from memory ZD takes place during 3066 give or take) between Zero Day and the Battle of Meridian at the end of ZD’s main story. I’d have to double check though. Also, some clues might be hidden in the Frozen Wilds DLC and Cyan, who is part of the Firebreak project intended to prevent a catastrophic eruption of Yellowstone.
If I remember correctly it didn't quite go grey goo, the machines were on the macro scale rather than the micro or nanoscale. A similar situation did happen though but it was on the macro scale, more like a zerg swarm of militarised machines rather than the world being taken apart atom by atom.
@@MechanicalOmega12
It did. The first Ted machines were not nanometric, they were big, but later they created the nanometric ones. The ones we see at the final main quest eating trees.
"Things Kyle Hill is not allowed to do at a Foundation facility (specially Site 19)."
What if another advanced civilization already went through this "apocalyptech" and now their nanoparticles are drifting through space 🤔🤔🤔
thats terrifying because the level of tech of the nanobots could be skys the limit and any of the limiters kyle talked about could be completely irrelevant. of course the possibility of two things in space running into each other is thankfully VERY small so even if these exist we're most likely still safe
there is no difference between gray goo and green goo that made us
@@dexdrako Green? Where do you get that colour from?
@@Krytern green goo is just algae or organic life as we understand it
a entropy would just make a gray goo event into the start of a different kind of life
We better hope the intelligence driving the nano machines isn't super-intelligence. If it is, it'll be able to direct it to devour everything in the galaxy. If it isn't, it'll basically be luck if it hits anything else and it'll spread really slowly.
Lmao... I busted out laughing at "I'm going to need more coffee."
A scenario like this would make a great movie plot.
There's one that I know!
Called The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008)
This was the plot of the last IDW Sonic Comic that I remember... It was starting to get intense. Then Covid hit. I need to catch up with that comic again. I wonder if they finished that plot yet....
Wasn’t the andromeda strain like this too, I know that Depp movie he was using them.
"You're right ARIA! It was easy!" that stare and walk away just killed me lol!
So what I got from this was
A) Nanomachines aren't that fast
B) There are apocolyptech guards
C) Kyle is genderbent Felicity Smoke
I'd say one of the guards is actually life itself. Good luck competing with the existing "nanotech" that has 3.5 billion years of design iterations behind it.
Hey Kyle,
My Teri-Vortex loop septor is malfunctioning. Can you send kevin for help.
**NOTE: 'Any injuries/death/physical changes to/of Kevin maybe/may not be my responsibility.'
Whoops seems like I send the message to wrong dimension. Told you my machine is malfunctioning. Sorry to all youtubers reading this and above comment, plz ignore both of them.
Must be a faulty supply......mine is as well. You may want to check transflux crystal, mine did a whole time jump thing, three dimensions over two back, though was yours blue, because the one i got back was blue, not purple.
This is the last time I'm playing 5d chess with a displacer beast, must have thought the thing was a chew toy.
@@Kafj302 yup, I checked that, it didn't work, it was already neat.
PS:
Due to difference in my timeline and yours, this message will find you pretty late, although i checked it as soon as you replied.
@@Kafj302 You should immediately leave 5-d chess, I have seen people destroy planets for that game. Yeah things get pretty nasty.
And my model is transflux crystal independent, sounds like magic but it is a pretty classfied tech. Stop by my neutron star and I might give you upgrade 😉
Woah, the nerd in me just came so hard to this thread, I need a post coitus cigarette right about now.
3:45- The bigger question is, has anyone seen Thor from Asgaurd and Kyle in the same room at the same time???
It’s like that episode of futurama where bender keeps dividing himself and destroys everything
You should Colab with Issac Arthur... that would epic
Issac is a legend 🔥
Isaac is amazing. Love the detail he goes into.
Yes!
When the estimate is covering the earth in 2 hrs the wave front of goo would have to be traveling at Mach 8.1 (so the air resistance would be a limiting factor). and this is assuming it spreads radially around the surface of the earth and also that it can go over oceans.
It can eat oceans
@@chrismanuel9768 there's the flaw no it can't. a nano machine can't change what kind of atom it is. you can't make nano machines out of hydrogen out of oxygen or hydrogen and it would take more energy to brake the bonds then the nano machines would get form burning them other.
the whole gray goo is magic tech not a real world understanding of physics
@@dexdrako you'd only need enough energy to break down specific molecules, and the energy released could be enough to combine other atoms into molecules and still start another splitting reaction. And we would have to make a lot of assumptions about what the machines are made of before we can say that they are affected by oceans or air resistance. If we assume that they can use the atmosphere and oceans to replicate, then the speed of that replication matters. Can they dismantle and build before air friction becomes a problem, and would the additional energy benefit or harm then?
There are a lot of ways to look at it, and truth be told none of them work in the real world anyway so it doesn't actually matter.
This makes me think of the Stargate Atlantis: Replicators
omfg. i remember that episode lol.
@@Omnivoid22 Yeah they were a great antagonist, I'm still sad that they decided to delete it from Netflix :(
"Stargate Atlantis" ?? Replicators first showed up in Stargate SG-1
@@nieznajomy4398 oh shit. I just now seen it lol. I was thinking sg1 entire time
@@nieznajomy4398 A complete series on the matter: Odyssey 5
It seems like an easy way to reduce the threat is a self-destruct timer in the machine's base code. Once activated it is only allowed to function for a set number of seconds or minutes before it deactivates permanently. This number should be set to limit how many copies of itself it can create in its lifetime. It would need to be more than one offspring per unit to be particularly useful but exponential growth like we are talking is near infinite offspring per unit. Numbers like 100 offspring per unit would dramatically slow its growth and give us a lot more time to counter a rogue swarm.
This could be an answer to the fermi paradox; aliens all tried to make nanobots and rolled a critical failure. That would be both comedic and sad
If the nanomachines were intelligent enough to move in such a way that they didn't produce enough heat to get detected then surely they would be intelligent enough to hide for long enough to reach a number at which it wouldn't matter if they got detected. For example, they could just sit underground hidden expanding at a slow rate until they reach a number where if they decided to go to full speed humans simply wouldn't be able to deal with them (even if they are still keeping below the threshold for vaporising stuff).
If they're that intelligent, one of the best places to hide is in human bodies - just ask COVID-19...
That's different.
Being capable of knowing that you have to be slow if you don't want to burn and burn your fuel is part of their existential meaning, hiding from humans isn't so closely related and would need a more conscious thought
@@ashyles0110 I'm not talking about just keeping the heat low as not to burn out, towards the end of the video he mentions that it would take 30 days to take the world if they were simply avoiding overheating. But if they wanted to avoid detection and blend the heat into the background noise then it would take 20 months, I'm proposing that instead of the 20 months if they were that intelligent as to blend the heat into the background they would be able to use more advanced techniques to expand without detection, then just go into overdrive to finish the job, maybe creating a timespan closer to a couple of months.
This is what kinda happens in my sci-fi story. But it's a dumb replicator that just so happens to follow that replication method.
This is what kinda happens in my sci-fi story. But it's a dumb replicator that just so happens to follow that replication method.
Title: Grey
Video: Gray
Well poke me with a stick and call me peeved
*facepalm*
Wow. You had me at exponential growth, then I realized you're Felicity Smoke.
So is this a Jekyll and Hyde scenario? or is Kyle a Trans Man? or something else I missed?
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After half the 'life' on the planet is Gray Goo, it should peter out. Why? Because then the nanobots will disassemble themselves half of the time.
'Regular life' will then have a chance to evolve in such a way that potentially in the future they will be able to outcompete the nanobots and gain the evolutionary edge once again.
Question : What is stopping the nano-machines from disassembling each other?
we can assume the nanobots were programmed to work with other nanobots and not attack each other when doing the task they were programmed to perform. remember a single nanobot is useless by itself needing a larger number to complete a task
probably their programming, also then it probably wouldn't have te be discussed
That does paint a pretty cool idea of an apocalyptic world where there was a mass of nano machines that was slowly consuming everything, but then one of the nanomachines in the swarm went rouge, started converting other nanomachines and split off, creating another faction of nanomachines, so then by the end of it there are multiple factions of nanomachines, some controlled by humans, some with a collective ai consciousness that has it's own intelligence and thought and then another that is just a mindless rampant swarm slowly consuming everything
@@logangaskill4 you got my point.
@@danmorariu9889 it must be assumed that, a nanobot must work in accordance to an A.I to control such task. And an AI to exist need a larger place to store itself. Hence we come to the point where a simpler machine need a larger machine to be built
you slave the nano swarm intelligence to a "hive core" that acts as the Brain and power broadcasting for the swarm if the Swarm core has a braodcast range limit then the nanites wouldn't funtions at all outside that range
I also thought of this, it is a good plan you have. However if they are super adaptive they may actually just pull energy from the air but I don't see that happening. They should also be able to emp them if they need to.
If you haven't read "Prey" by Micheal Chrichton you should. It is a very interesting book involving nano machine tech escaping and swarm logic.
@@kendallemory8455 I remember that book. It was very interesting
Easily bypassed by copy paste.
@@kendallemory8455: The problem I have with Chrichton is that he keeps telling the exact same story over and over and over again.
2020: * *Taking notes* *
"Write that down, write that down!"
Aqua your a goddess do something
Oh wait
Shame not to get a mention of 'Blood Music' by Greg Bear, a novel which took the grey goo idea and really ran with it, and was my introduction to the concept as a teenager.
The Deltora books gives us a easier solution
Dragons
I recall an argument with one of my friends back in the early 2000. The argument was that I said that World War 3 would be fought using nano machines rather then nukes. Imagine a cloud of dust disabling nukes in their silos.
My friends counter argument is that it was impossible to fit that much information in something that small to control it as such.
My counter argument was simply we may not have the tech today, but tomorrow's a different story. We may think it impossible now but who knows what we will believe tomorrow.
Take a cellphone back in time to the medieval times and ask them to create another one. They will tell you its impossible.
I've had similar arguments on comment sections for science fiction short films. A specific one involved faster than light travel and communication. Just because we don't know how to do that today doesn't mean we won't find a way tomorrow. How we envision it now doesn't even have to be the way it happens later. Like teleportation. Sure, transmitting ourselves across distances probably isn't going to happen, but point to point wormholes to fold the distance and allow you to walk across might. Who's to say we won't develop communication devices that bend space so that the data is travelling a few feet instead of a few light-years or that some other unknown aspect of the universe won't be discovered. Science has made the advancements because of people not accepting that something is impossible.
I'm afraid if that technology is developed, from a military perspective, it would be more practical to have the nanobots disassemble people, while leaving infrastructure intact. It would be the natural course of action.
Luckily we're a massive ways off for nanomachines on this scale to exist.
Eric M We don’t know. We went from the first airplane flying for less than a minute to flying people to the Moon in under 100 years, so we can’t know
@@duolingobird2553 If humanity united and decided to stop being greedy, then yeah, we'd get it done in a decade. But part of human nature is greed and greed sometimes stagnates innovation. The power sector is guilty of this especially. We're stuck on fossil fuels because people want to stagnate innovation in favor of profit. It's way more complex than that but yeah, in a very basic nutshell. Have a good weekend!
Reminds me of Horizon Zero Dawn, only those were giant machines
PS. "Wait ohh, you want me to do two things?"
“Consume, Enhance, Replicate.”
[~CONSUME. ENHANCE. REPLICATE.~]
Grey Goo is one of those things I don't really think about until I do and it briefly consumes my thoughts and fills me with dread. The other is Roko's Basilisk (which, for some reason, I thought was "Archimedes's Dragon").
What's scary is we have developed something very similar, it self replicates, self repairs and could spread across the planet if it escaped.
I came to this channel expecting fun times, but now I'm going through and existential crisis.
Would Nanomachines of this type be capable of some form of evolution? Like, as they spread they encounter different scenarios that need to be overcome. I can see some developing behaviors for hot or cold environments, others getting adaptations for water or corrosive gasses, different energy sources, etc.
Eventually, they turn on each other, no longer recognizing Nanos of different make as themselves. An arms race develops, with different Nanos harvesting others for parts.
Suddenly, after all organic life has ended, we would have Life 2.0
Stargate, one off my favourite shows had a nice representation of this.
The self replicating machines destroyed massively more advanced species than the human race.
Whatever anyone says, the scariest stargate villains are the replicators, Ori included.
Developing a nanobot will take many steps and the first ones will be slow, inefficient and will probably only work with one specific material. This will all improve with time of course, but this all leaves a lot of time to work on safety measures.
The bots could be "coded" in such a way they only worked while under a specific amount of pressure, and then would only convert material that was say, 200 meters underground. That would allow them to move faster unseen.
absorp atom like in a intestine provided human waste such poop and nanomachine will consuming them
The problem is, compared to the above-ground biosphere, carbon is fairly sparse that far down. You'd have to do a lot of sifting to find those precious few carbon atoms. Maybe you'd just run out of gas trying to find what little gas there is in the crust.
If you have confusion how to spell Gray / Grey, remember this
It's gr *A* y in America and gr *E* y in England
I use both, sometimes in the same paragraph
@@chadfalardeau3259 I can easily use both in same word at same time, sometimes multiple times.
Wrong. A is a lighter shade. E is a darker shade. That's in the case of color overall. Gray with an A indicates blandness. Grey with an E indicates a morally ambiguous situation. In no place has A or E represented the US or England.
So there was a thread that ran pretty deep into this on the Warhammer40k subreddit not long ago. I like to think Kyle was one of the people who was there. It's like the perfect time between then and now for a video to have been produced!
I like that you have a bunch of visuals from Stargate Atlantis on computer screens in your background. Very fitting.
When your felicity smoke cosplay is so on point you confuse yourself, also what if the nano machines has a cooling system
Cooling systems don't destroy heat. They simply move heat from one place to another. If the nanobot manufacturer is lucky, perhaps there's a way to build a cooling system to efficiently move heat far enough away that it won't vaporize your raw materials; but a cooling system will do nothing to help hide your heat signature, because it's just not practical to move heat that far away.
I can't wait for nano-bots, they are not only the next step in medicine, they could even make us better. Nano-bots could repair bones in the fraction of the time our body could, repair wounds, do surgery, boost our digestive system, remove/breakdown harmful things (like radioactive particles and venoms), and much more because they're an active solution. Maybe (with enough advancement) even augment us by, improving vision, reinforcing bones/muscles, the list could just go on.
First Imagine the NanoBots are small enough that they can change what the atom is like from hydrogen to hilum and so on, so anything could power it, and it could go anywhere. Then imagine the NanoBots were created by a Hyper-Intelligent AI that downloaded its program into all of them.
The basilisk is coming for you. Unless you're on its team, then you're fine ;)
@@jonahcraven8669 You mean if
Felicity Smoke!
Hey Kyle, how can a neutron star have a magnetic field if it is made of neutrons
It spins so fast 🌀
Interior of neutron stars are powerful electrical currents. Rotation of matter probably helps too. It's an more of an electric field than permanently magnetic.
Neutrons have internal structure - they're made of charged quarks
Hey Kyle, a few questions. 1: Do you think we could use nanobots for medical research (i.e. fighting cancer.)? 2: Do you think we could make them small enough so that they could be injected into a live cell so that they and assist or improve cell function? And lastly what would the side effects on the human body be if there any?
The nano-goo is the technological equivalent of HP Lovecaft's shoggoths. How much collective intelligence would a nano-swarm have?
Remember folks, dont touch your mask while using it, then anything it caught is on your hands. Use the straps and wash hands after taking off
No
This seems neurotic.
@@ShawnPitman this seems standard practice for any respiratory illness. Has been for ages.
Or just stop being a coward and don't wear a mask at all :)
@@3nertia I guess ignorance is indeed bliss. Happy car crash I guess.
There was an episode of Gargoyles that dealt with a grey goo situation
There was?
@@Aaron.Reichert Yes there was. In terms of the overall series, not the best episode, but it was, nonetheless, decent. Season 2, I believe.
According to the CDC, the "toothbrush" or Yhatzee leader mustache is A OK 😂😂
Hello, I have been thinking and wanted to ask whether it could be possible for malfunctioning self replicating nanotechnology to be caught in a sort of limbo loop where it just devours itself and replicating itself endlessly?
Kyle: Talks about burning cows through heat from nanomachines
Dream: Hold my lava bucket