Building My Own Home: Episode 19 - Putting Down the Sub Floor
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2016
- I had a friend come over and help me Saturday. We were able t finish up getting all of the joist hangers in and the rest of the blocking put in between the floor joists. Then we put down all of the sub floor decking
I know this is a old video but I really appreciate this,I can understand everything your explaining,and it's to were someone like me who knows nothing about construction,want to start my own home projects thank you,your videos are very inspirational to me and I hope to many more💯✌️
It's a pretty cool series. It was fun watching him build it. I'm watching him build it again. It's finally finished and it's a real beauty
Wow that’s a huge home brother 😮 what a undertaking my hats off to you, my step kids have been trying to finish their 900 sq ft cabin I gave them 2 years free room and board so they could spend every dime on their home, that ends in March and they are only now getting sheetrock schedualed to be installed as I refused to do it for them lol electrical, land, water lines and supporting them was my contribution 😊 at turning 60 in a couple weeks I am tired lol
As a retired GC of 37 years with 60 years around construction and home building, you have done a great job. Kudo's to the size of the lumber you used. Your blocking and double rim joist should be well above code in most any area.
Awesome job......it must feel so amazing to build your own home
It's a big job, but yes it's very satisfying too.
I can't wait to see your next installment. Thanks for the video.
Nice work man ! Congratulations !
Jeez brother. You're a beast. Nice work.
Great job brother . Thanks and god bless
Great information.
Never mind, I watched about 15 of the videos after this one and that answers that. LOL Wrap around porch it is. Nice work on everything!
I'm only up to episode 19, and I've got to say you are incredible for doing most of it till now on your own.
I may have missed it but I didn't see you put vents in to the outside in your concrete block, nor did I see you put a vapor barrier down on the raw earth under the main portion of the house.
I live up in north-central Arkansas, and it's all limestone. I've got visqueen down everywhere under the house plus pea gravel over it. Also have at least 2 vents per wall.
I didn't build the house, but wish the builder had made for a taller crawl space. Basements up here are non-existent unless you're on a good slope. If I had your space under the porch, I would have turned it into a root cellar!
Excellent series. I'm learning a lot.
Oh, and one other question...with all the money you saved on labor and contractor's fees, why didn't you buy a small generator and use air tools? It would have cost you a thousand for it, and saved you hours of work, plus you would still have the tools for years afterward. Just wonderin'.
I'm glad I came across your channel, get work btw!! Keep it up.
Looks great
wow..wat a great quality job!
+mach smith Thanks.
Cool. Our home burned to the ground last year so we have a friend who is a builder in the process of rebuilding the new one...I am his free labour guy! It is an interesting process not un-similar to the video process you have posted. I am not incapable, far from it but until you get involved in a full build process from start to finish you are just learning. Love the videos by the way.
David Brewer sorry to hear you lost your home. Glad you have a friend in the trade to help you get it built back! This is my first build and I can assure you I am learning at every turn. It's definitely my biggest project ever! Lol
Ok I see the hanger now looks great
Looking good man. If i could move as fast as yall were god knows what i could get done! Ill be tuned in for the next one
Drew the secret is lots and lots of caffeine! lol I just ordered the next load of lumber. I hope the start framing the walls very soon.
Cool. I live in Arkansas too
buenos videos
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Woww... I like this kind of house
looking good at least you had help, i'm all on my own...
Well my help didn't quite work out as planned. That's a buddy of mine that I helped build his house, and then he was going to help me build mine. Trading our labor so to speak. Unfortunately, after he helped me lay the sub floor and stand the walls they wound up having to move out of state. But it's all good, we are still getting it built. It's just a little slower.
Timex and just how is the progress on your house? Im doing my designs for it now.
I like that it is not on a slab.
You are doing a great job. What will be the height difference between your house floor and your porch floor? I'm building a cabin as well. Thanks for your help. Steffon
When you overlap the joists, how does that work when you lay out the plywood sub-floor? Seems like the 16 on center would be thrown off and half the sheets would not lay right to be nailed down.
Nice - our builder only used 2x8 joists, not these beefy 2x12s. You could land a really big Helicopter on there
I would save up and put rebar and 4 inches concrete over that floor. But make sure to figure out how much each of those floor joists can support.
No concrete for me thank you. Concrete floors are hard on my knees and back. The raised wood floors have a little bit of give in them and don't cause me the pain. Thanks for watching.
Ayan Ali no light weight concrete , too much weight. Thats a weird system. NOT NORMAL. Climb underneath and stitch nail those 2x12's together. Staggered nailing using 16d nails @ 6" on center.
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People should plan ahead when using advantech floor decking. You lose 1/2” width on every sheet. I built my 35’ 8” width house using 9 sheets. I started 1st sheet 1/4” in header joist and finished 1/4” inside opposite side header joist. No smart cutting a 4” strip and then tying your outside wall onto it.
With the cost of lumber in 2022 it would cost a small fortune to frame a house now.
How far apart are the concrete pylons and what dimensions do you have for length and width of the main floor deck ?
Good job on the work, the video and info posted in it. Liked and subscribed
some questions sir, how far apart are those piers? i see the joists sitting on that sill plate at 57 seconds, how much of the joist is sitting on that? why is that end joist doubled?
What are the options of cellar under floor what is reason for raised foundation
great work. Medical retired veteran here and this is a great inspiration for me that hopefully in 2 yrs to 3 yrs I can start a homestead. Again great work.. Did u work construction/ How did you learn to build homes?
+chate Mineer Thanks Chate! I am a vet myself. I haven't ever worked in construction, so don't let inexperience stop you if you haven't either. There are plenty of construction books, website and youtube videos. If your just learning home building there are some really good videos by Larry Haun on framing a house from start to finish here on RUclips. My dad built our home on the old homestead all by hand. No power tools at all. I wasn't old enough to really help, but it made a big impression on me. He has passed on now, but I think of him with every nail I drive! :-)
Arkansas Homesteader Larry again was the man! Wish I could’ve worked by his side. He’s one of the greatest great answer you had for the fellow vet!
Did you use a laser or 8' level to check your framing before laying the Advantek? I built a house in CT. Every day I had lunch at the sight and double checked on the weekend. I looked at the floor joists and they did not look level. The contractor assured me that it work out properly and he finished the house. I did notice 5 imperfect windows during construction, the contractor pulled all 23 and just replaced them. The floor could have been easily fixed when I told him but not later. I moved in, the couch rocked. My eight foot level suggested that the carrier beam was too high. I pitied the men who had to carry the 4x4x1/3" into the walk out basement. They had to jack up the whole house, cut the poured concrete foundation, lower the house, shim the carrier beam, replace all the lolly columns, rewire, sister ALL the floor joists, replace the strip oak floor and re-level everything on the first floor. I love my 8' level!
+John Gritman Geeze, that sounds like a nightmare. I checked mine using a rotary laser. Only floor problem I have is we got a rain before I cut the doorways out and water pooled overnight. No real damage but the seams will now need a light sanding before I put down the final floor now.
@@ArkansasHomesteader Why didn't you use insulation on the floor before putting the plywood?
I will be putting in Rockwool insulation under the floor once I am done with the wiring and plumbing phases.
no floor insulation?
Hey there Homesteader... The place is looking good... I watched episode 93 the other day... I am about to build a pretty large shed. I really like your foundation so i am re-watching a lot of your videos. When you laid the sub-floor, how did you account for the offset of your floor joists to make the 4X8 sheets of plywood fall out right? I know you started on one side an inch and a half out to account for the double rim joist, but if the other side is off set presumably by 3 inches or none so the joists can pass each other. Wouldn't that throw off where the plywood lands? Thanks for your insight.
It didn't in my case because the shift happened at a 4' increment. My deck was 32' wide and the shift happened at 16'. So the first 4 rows are on one layout and the second 4 rows are 1.5 inches over. So if your span us too long for a single joist, make sure you lap them at a 4 ft increment and you should be fine.
Thanks!
should of avoided the 4inch strip , start with a cut one on the other side like tiling.
Are those cinder block piers just stacked dry?
I am redoing my sub floor, removed the underlayment, plywood , adding blocking and putting the same subfloor back. Blocking is a huge deal. I recommend every 6 ft but with advantech 12 ft is good! What glue did you use and how is the quality of subfloor after usage. Great job!!!
I have to watch only a few more of those videos and i can build an American house in Europe lol
I just started on your build with the previous video. Question. What is the extra space all around the main floor? Is that the wrap around porch? Or is that part of the main footprint of the house not framed in yet?
+Deric Kettel that's where the wrap around porch is.
Midway span between the floor joists you put the 2x12 blocking pieces to join each joist. Is this purpose of this for load dispersal and to reduce floor movement when walking on it?
MrHalmorris yes, they help stiffen it up just a little bit.
I'm currently doing a total gut and remodel of a 37 year old Quadra plex. Both downstairs apartments have 2x10 joists on 16 ft spans and 16" centers. (Most are on 12 ft spans and they are fine) but the 16 ft spans have about a 1.5 inch sag. I'm having to jack the floor level. Maybe your 2x12s will be better.
What's span between concrete footing?
Hello buddy
From Texas
I want to build my own house but it's the first time and I'm looking for ideas more information what type of foundation is better for my house
I'd hate to see how much that lumber would cost here in 2022.
How did you get your plywood to line up correctly on each stud since your joists overlapped in the center and didn't follow a straight line all the way across? Looks like it would have been off by a joist thickness (1-1/2") half way down.
+B Cain The 4th row of sub floor ended in the section of floor joists that overlapped. When I started the 5th row I just shifted it over 1.5 inches and then all the rest of sub floor sheets broke on the new joist layout.
B Cain
@@ArkansasHomesteader So is there a 1.5 inch gap in your sun flooring?
Did you put down glue to avoid squeaky floors?
Yes. I used both glue and ring shank nails. So far I have no issues with it.
Did you use any vapor barrier in craw space
Insulation of the floor is VERY important. Most of the cold comes from the bottom up.
Why didn't you figure the foundation to where the sheets of plywood ended at the edges and not a 4 inch strip? And if you had to do it that way why didn't you stagger it over on the other side so you had 3 foot strip and a 3 foot strip on either side or so? Just wondering
That's a fair question. As far as not planing it to fall out to even sheets, we had other factors that were bigger driving factors for that. We have covenants even this far out in the country that dictate a min sq footage. We didn't really want a huge house to we used the min sq ft required.
As for why I didn't split the difference with the starting row..... well that's just plain poor planning and in experience. I absolutely should have done that. I don't think effects the strength of the floor, but a 4 inch strip is not ideal. Luckily, I framed with 2x6 walls and the strip is completely covered by the wall. Otherwise it may have shown through to the final finish of the floor years down the road when things begin to settle.
Arkansas Homesteader tremendous job, thanks for the vids four inch strip right where it doesn’t make a bit of difference on top of that beam and under a wall. So envious of the scenery around your home, blessings to you and your family. From SoCal.
If you are resting joists on the sill plate, aren't you overbuilding it with joist hangers?
If it were a true sill plate, yes the joist hangers would be overkill. But since it's just a 2x12 laid on its side and it's not fully supported from underneath it can't carry the weight of the joists. I just added that horizontal 2x12 to help with tying the house to the foundation. Since it's bolted to each column with 4 anchor bolts I know it won't go anywhere. And since I spanned the columns with it I was able to toe nail it from both side to the rim joist and the screw though it from underneath up into the rim joist.
Hopefully that will help prevent straight line winds or tornadoes from shifting it on its foundation.
Ty for reply it gave me a lot of good info :)
Arkansas Homesteader how did you get the joist hangers to fit under the nailed joists?
+Ivan Benavides the joists are only toenailed to the bottom 2x12 on the center wall. On the end walls where they butt up to the rim joists I nailed through the rim joist into the floor joist only. Then came back and put the joist hangers on, so the just slipped in between the joist and bottom 2x12.
Did you use .75" decking?
Sorry, my first reply was in reference to my porch decking. I wasn't paying enough attention to what I was replying too. Yes, I used advantech subfloor which is roughly 3/4 inch although I think they may have had it listed in 32nds.
No insulation under your floor?
Are your inside joints treated?
No, just the Rim Joists are treated.
So blocks are at least every 8ft rt?
Its been a while since I laid them, but I seem to recall its just over 6ft from edge to edge of all the columns. The house is 48x32 and there are 7 columns across the front and 5 down the sides.
i notice you used 2x12 still plate, is there a difference between that and green still plate? i tried looking it up but all i ever find is green house stuff.
+hummn brd I am not certain what you're seeing when you look it up, but what I am assuming it is a green pressure treated board. If so there isn't any real difference in that and what I am using. Both would be a pressure treated board rated for ground contact, but they now have different process for treating the wood and it doesn't tint it green like the old process did.
Yes that's what im taking about. I just started the process of learning all this so forgive me for not knowing terminology exactly. Thanks for exposing that though. Another diy home builder ive been following used what she called green still plate... Im guessing she didn't use the right word for it which is why i couldn't find anything on it. What you explain is what i meant so thank you for the explanation.
+hummn brd don't feel bad, I use the wrong terms sometimes myself. The correct term for this is "sill plate" or a less used term of "soul plate"
If your really interested I would recommend you searching youtube for a builder by the name of Larry Huan. He is a professional carpenter that did 5 part series on framing a house and it's really good! I think someone by the channel name of "finnius" or something simular has them posted. Well worth the time to watch.
I will definitely do that thanks! I want to learn as much as possible before we start because i figure the more we know the less we'll have to hire out to sub contractors. Btw im loving your videos so far.
no one cares about those old fossil builders. they couldnt keep up today with their handsaws and hand nailing
You can put a herd of cows on that floor.
Is a timber house cheaper than a Brick and block house, I'm from the UK all our houses are brick and block. Just interested
I honestly don't know. Not much built around here with block. I did a Google search and at least one site says block is about half as much.
Building with timber is faster and timber is much less scarce in North America than in UK so it's at least not prohibitive here.
You do not insulate the floor of the house, only the walls?
No, I will be insulating the floor, walls and ceilings. Just haven't got there yet. Soon as I finish up the plumbing and electrical I will start the insulation.
I'm from Russia, accidentally stumbled upon your video about building a house!
After watching your video, I saw only the warming of the walls. So I thought that you are not going to insulate the floor. I thought that you have a very warm and no cold! ))
I wish you successes in your business!
How did you get all your blocks level
I used a transit to check level as I built them up. You have to calculate the levels of your poured concrete. If the base is not all on the same level you want them to be off by 4 inch increments. Then you build the low ones up to the same level using whatever combination of 8 or 4 inch thick blocks make up the difference.
Does having piers and beams versus concrete slab help reduce your annual taxes ??
No, the taxes are based on sq footage so the type foundation doesn't matter for that. But the raised foundation is MUCH easier on my knees.
Wouldn't animals crawl under the house? Aren't homes usually built on a slab type foundation?
Wow, I’m so impressed up to this point you did it all by yourself! How come you didn’t put insulation under the subfloor between the floor joists?
+junkmail1203 I plan to use spray foam insulation.
What is a story and a half? Is that a crawl space attic?
Story and a half means there are rooms in what would traditionally be the attic.
Can you tell me how much you paid for concrete in total.
I don’t recall right off, but I know I gave some cost breakdown in episode 100. Not sure if I said how much in concrete though.
How can I contact You Sir
Price of wood is rediculous
Errr....I think the decking is supposed to be writing side down. It should say it on the sheets...
David Brewer it's turned correctly. The top side has writing on it plus a grid for where to nail it. If I recall correctly the is some writing on the underside as well, but that side definitely does not have the grid for where to nail it.
So r u an architect or constructor or just everybody can build a home? Do u need some license or what?
laszlo halasz yeah I was wondering that too
laszlo halasz Generally speaking, you’re allowed to build your OWN house. Obviously laws vary from state to state. Doing this to someone else’s house is considered contracting. That’s where the licensing comes in.
I am a telecom network engineer. No building background. Like others said, no licences needed where I am building, but it varies by location.
Why was the sub floor installed along the joists and not across the joists,It does not make any sense and even though you used blocking it still makes no sense but, nonsense it does make sense.
You are mistaken about how its installed. The subfloor is perpendicular to the joists.
with all of those nails and braces, I hope youre ready for the floor squeaks!
concrete floor is better, safer, cheaper , etc..
Video is informative but repetitive
I notice the mud sill extends far , far passed the rim joint on several sides ???? I don't get it. 2nd , he does not have camera showing close-up of how he laid down the sub floor. Was he using glue on top of joists BEFORE laying down the sub floor.
Jeez brother. You're a beast. Nice work.