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@@garybullwinkle6784 more than that... learning how to ride with flats cause you couldn't get a ride to the bike shop. Some skills only come from pure passion and joy, and determination.
I'll never forget when I got my rand new 450x...that bike had so much power compared to anything else I had ridden. I took it to the desert, and laughed at this kid on a 100cc 4 stroke bike who wanted to race me. Yeah... That desert rat kid destroyed me and I was riding to the utmost of my abilities... Haha I hope that kid felt good about his skills he sure earned that win.
I actually love seeing guys with the latest bikes, latest gear, $2000 worth of bling addons, they generally also drive a nice car and have Justin Bieber like personal grooming and the latest sunnies..... So, nothing gives me more pleasure than leaving then behind multiple times on any of my old bikes and riding gear from the late '90's. This was great secret pleasure of mine, until i ran into a farmer from the NSW Alpine area with his clapped out old XR200, black leather Rossi boots with jeans and no front brake. Yep, you guessed it, i got tested, he was playing an even bigger game than me! Turned out to be an Ex NSW Enduro legend.... One hell of a top fella and all round nice guy too.
cool story! i'd love to get someone like gally at 50 years of age and put him on an XL185 and watch him hose all the young guys on brand new euro bikes. :)
Spot on Barry. Happens in all sports; we're advertised to constantly with promises of augmentation in exchange for our hard earned. My 300RR whispers sweet nothings into my ear at night and that makes up for all the money I have spent on her... Life is short, enjoy your ride whatever it is - an old banger or a shiny new bit of tech.
I am 57 years old and bought a new 2016 Husky 450 after 28 years of not riding. The new bike has made all the difference in my enjoyment and ripping it up. My skill level and confidence has greatly improved and I can ride with all but the most fearless. I rode all the older bikes since I was 5, and all that skill transferred right over. The new bike made me very happy.
Damn! Everything he said is spot on. I've got a Drz400SM and it can go just about anywhere an actual dirt bike can go. I've taken it to the most popular O.R.V. parks in the state of Washington and the bike overcomes just about any obstacle. I've only done minimal tuning, including a 3x3 airbox mod and changed out the stock dunlop tyres for Avon distanzia's. It truly is all about the rider.
Great Video. It feels good taking my older bikes out showing the new bikes i can go anywhere they go. And on the track i can keep up with any equal experience rider on their newer bikes. Not putting down new bikes, i myself would love to have one. But its great to hear someone speak the truth about ability through practice not pocket book.
This is the best bike related video I´ve ever seen, finally a full of common sense and no BS!!!!. 6:48 minutes of honest, down to earth shit. thanks for reminding me what this enduro thing is all about!!!
hahaha you are a legend! This is so accurate though. I ride with so many people who have excuse after excuse. My only excuse I ever use is that I ran out of talent!
I love this vid. When I read forums threads, especially on ADVRider, I cringe at the many motorbike blaming/shaming posts. Always the tires, the knobs, the displacement or the seat; and never the rider. My fav all time post is the one where this guy blames his kevlar jeans for not stopping a severe laceration to his leg as he wrapped it around a metal road barrier at high speed. Another fav is the inmate who blamed a particular tire for breaking his leg and always proceeds (for several years now) to comment on any thread that mentions this particular tire claiming that it "sucks" and "broke my leg". But I have to add my fav positive comment. On one thread inmates were complaining about knobby wear when some wise "Kung Fu" sifu wrote, (paraphrased) Grasshoppers, some kid in some desert is riding in deep sand with tires balder than my shiny head, and the rider is having fun.
"Grasshoppers, some kid in some desert is riding in deep sand with tires balder than my shiny head, and the rider is having fun" that pretty much sums it up diego. 😁
Lol true, advrider is full of good information but there are so many snobs worried about pointless shit that sometimes it gets annoying, freaking snowflakes
My thoughts are that if we spend some un-necessary money on un-necessary thing but they make us feel good and confidence levels raise, the ability and success should raise with it. The mathematics.. Impressing others X swelling in genitals / financial outlay = confidence on bike X perceived skill improvement / actual skill improvement = slight gain in skill + bigger smile during end of ride drinks.... X supporting bike industry = go nuts boys and girls!!! Hedonism - if it feels good, do it. Great vid Barry
I use a helmet that doesnt even have a visor anymore 😂😂 bc i dont feel like buying a new one still works as a helmet.(i hit to many trees to even bother getting a new on would break first time out)
Totally agree. I've watched a local prodigy do a gnarly hill climb on a stock 450 track bike in a little over 11 seconds. His competition is everything under the sun, including a 750-4s with extended swingarms - and the fastest time they can clock is 14 seconds.
I ride the bikes that make me happy. For the most part that's been late-70s to early-80s MX bikes. They're still much faster than I ever could be, and I love the style. Lately I've been riding my super sketchy hot-rodded 1967 Kawasaki 120, and that thing is the purest essence of fun! In spite of being a 250lb lard ass on an ancient child's bike, the thing still absolutely rips in the single track and is easily fast enough that no one I ride with has to wait for me all day. Plus, with 3 inches of suspension in the rear, you develop good line selection!
Some of the most fun I've had riding the trails has been on my ancient air-cooled, dual-rear-shock, two stroke Husqvarna 250. It would go anywhere I pointed it, assuming I didn't get tossed off. I also have a DR650, it it always amazes me just what I can get away with on that Bush pig.
I had a 1972 Montesa King Scorpion it was a fun enduro bike. Had it for 10 years wish I had it still. Paid $749,00 for it brand new. It was light had good power . It took a pounding . Glad I had it before a street bike. I learned a lot on that bike Everyone should ride dirt first. Still riding at 64 no accidents but a few expensive slides .
hello From Bulgaria my name is Viktor 24y old and i am your fan from a long time ago and love your videos all of them are full of information i watch them with joy and i wanted to wish god bless ya and your loved ones!
Great Video, I generally agree, having hauled a DZR through most of the Canadian Corduroy (DNF) though a lighter bike like the 185 used to compare would have been easier. Also the Chris Birch remark is really a joke as the KTM 1190 is one of the premier bikes on the planet, though he could probably ride a street bike better in the dirt than many of us mortals, the 1190 IS TOP GEAR. Love your philosophy however and your vids.....well done
I had a 91’ xr 250 after not riding for years. Took it up to walker valley in Washington and didn’t crash once. Upgraded to a 2012 CRF 250 X and have done nothing but eat shit. That’s why I watch your videos.
Just found your channels and can't stop watching all the videos.. I've got to go back and re-watch most of them b/c I'm doubled over laughing. Great job!
A few years back I had a crf230 and I was surprised at how many brand new euro bikes I would pass on the trails and how many hill climbs I could make and they would not even attempt. I enjoyed that little cheap second hand bike so much I kinda want to get another one.
Hahahaha this is great! I ripped a stock crf230 on an endurocross track and did really well. I got alot of greif when i showed up on it but gained respect through my riding abilities. I learned on hondas and yamahas from the early 80s and have owned fuel injected ktms and everything in between and have had just as much fun and learned just as much on each and every bike.
Dominoc Weber lol I have a crf230 as well and my 250 buddies were talking crap till I was riding harder then them in the trails out here in Oregon 🤟🏽💯 it’s not the bike it’s the rider
I race a kdx 200 and a crazy fast 83 kx250. I love wasting guys with new bikes that put more into their suspension then I bought my whole bike for! Been doing it for years!
Dig it..! I've been riding my whole life, so ill tell ya -relaxing and fun watching ..! I've had the best and had used, just take care of your machine and get out there and ride!.. Good times everyone.. ✌
When I was 16, back in the early 70's, and couldn't afford to buy my own bike. I use to ride my uncle's Yamaha RD250 street bike at the local trails. Nothing to gnarly, but honest dirt trails. I had a blast. And he never complained how dirty it always was when I brought it back.
I rode a modified Honda S-65 bike in endures back in the late 1960s. I always finished and really never had much of a problem with anything except lack of speed. It really is more rider than bike.
Excellent Vid!! reminds me years ago I had a 75 xl350 bought for 300 bucks. beatup but ran great, use to ride with acouple guys, 1 with a gasgas ,1 with a ktm. realistically they all went the same places not much far apart. since then ive had a yz450f and now a drz400s. I still think of that old xl350 remembering areas on the trails that bike had benefits riding threw vs the more recent units.
I will say a good bike will help. Not necessarily needing the new orientation of orange plastic from Austria but having a good suspension setup, tires and gearing make so much difference on any bike. I started on an old rm250 with shot suspension. Rode it for years without a care because I didn't know better. Fixed it up and it was night and day. My confidence level changed drastically as well.
Such great vids,newbie here,I bought a DR 650 because of your vids,Soooo happy I did.15000 km sins February,snow,mud,gravel,hightway,no problems.i have not drove the car suns then...addicted.
Such a true word spoken ..I found this out by having a bike for a long time only to find the guys who up dated their bikes were no faster . sure in a flat stretch they had the hp but generally it was just a few bike lengths of gain in a days riding .... not enough for me to warrant a new 10 g bike
Everything in your videos is well thought out /true to my 40 +years of experience/250 plus motorcycles and my skill level is way off some of the displays here.I often read things on forums/websites that are pure nonsense.That Dr650 ?? display was pretty good stuff.Old pigs like my DR600 tractor up where "little engine" sometimes cant.great videos -keep em coming!
Super video! A few years back I was practicing at the MC track and just about everybody had shiney new 450 s when a guy with a beat up old KX 25O and ancient gear shows up smokes everyone. Yes it is the rider but I need every advantage I can get!
This video is so true. I’m 15, I ride a 1990 KDX200, it’s all I could afford, I only weight 132 pounds and I’m not that tall so it’s a challenge, but it’s great to know that there are others proving that it’s the rider, not the bike
I ride on bold tyres. The extra weight of the rubber steals lots of horse power. Also with very small knobs you get much more rubber contact with the ground hence more grip. People tell me I could do with a new tyre. I tell them that when I can't get up the hills I will change it or when the thread is below the 2mm road legal limit. I still manage to get up all the hills, so have not changed the tyre. I ride a 93KLX 300 no magic button. I found it helps my clutch skills as I am always trying to avoid stalling so I do not have to kick start in awkward positions. I did get the suspension tuned. The 43mm USD forks really rock and got a flat seat. It is a little under powered on the open tracks but it still seems to keep up with the new bikes. I just have to rev it a bit more.
Haha good stuff here!!!! I ride a mountain bike that is considered somewhat outdated by most but you know what? I can still kick major arse on it! Everyone else can BRING IT! In other news, I used to own an XL185S too!
I joind a trail riders club (in Brazil) last week and today was my first lesson. In the club I realised that all riders have a very good bikes (KTM, husaberg, gasgas, etc), but I have XR200 (2002) as a beginner. When my teatcher did a ride on my bike he and his coligue were saying that I should change the bike because is sh.....it...(suspension for street, low position of footpegs, clutch, etc). But I told him that I want to focus on skills first and then on bike. Your video made me more confident!!!
I have a KLX250SF (17" street tires) and I had no problem keeping up with my buddy on his WR400. Only in dry conditions mind you but riding skills are definitely 80-90% of the equation. I have since converted the supermoto to an enduro and it's awesome, Bill Blue's 351 big bore kit helped too ;)
When I was 17 I used to ride on an ex army Armstrong 500cc rotax pig drum brakes only, that thing made my road and off-road riding pretty good. As soon as I could afford something lighter I was flying, but I've always been more interested in" riding slow and technical than fast and hopeful." I've had 4 years off about to get another KTM 300exc all I can afford is an 06 but I know in a year I will be doing technical stuff again with the added benefit of now having a partner she's excited about learning and so am I.
His choice of tires: "The cheapest no name brands he can get his hands on. If they are black and made of a kind of rubbery substance." hahaha. So funny. This is classic.
thankyou, for being one of those humans that attempts to dissolve the ego of others, your a good bloke mate. I bought a wr450 the other day tell ya what its a bmx with NOS compared to my old bike. love you vids.
cheers barney, i was chatting with the traction erag guys about this last summer and they were getting fed up with all the glossy bike mags working in cahoots with the advertisers to tell readers the opposite message. :)
You have push me over the edge!! I had a CRF 250x and have sold it and brought a XR250r 1984 model 80% rider 20% bike. I am determined to push myself to become a better rider! No excuses! Thanks heaps, I'll post stuff on my channel of me progress.
My mate and I went riding in some twisty mountain tarmac roads, me on a Himalayan, him on a V-Strom 650. Despite having over twice the power with his Suzuki he couldn't keep up with the Himalayan. I think he was afraid of leaning deep on curves on Shinko 705s... his mind kept him from going faster. The torque on the Himalayan certainly helped, but I was scraping pegs on both sides on the way up the hill...
Happens everytime my dad would go riding with us on our new bikes. He always shows up with his 1972 hodaka wombat 125. Other than the straights, he leaves us behind on anything technical. Of course he has been riding that bike for 36 years and riding for over 43 years total.
Great vid as always. I'm just happy that my "old" XR650L runs like a champ and starts up all day every day with just a little flick of the e-button. My first bike was a Honda 100xl and it ran like a champ also. Sometimes older is better.
I have a 2015 bike , and get shown up many times over by older men on 80s bikes with smiles on their faces. Someday I might just be one of those guys !
This is probably mostly true. I use to ride a 1973 suzuki TM-400 in the trails, and it performed superbly. Now I ride a 2005 CRF450X, and while I'll admit the suspension and handling is greatly improved on the newer bike, I still feel like I could rip around just as quickly on the old rock hard frame suzuki.
Not long ago I had a Kawasaki Super Sherpa. It was my commuter and bush basher. As much as I was told it couldn't go enduro, couldn't do single track or technical terrain, with practice that beast would go anywhere. Sure I stacked and dropped it alot, but I learnt how to use that bike far past what it was designed for.
Soooo true. I managed to score a VERY impressive bike. ex-CNMA rider's bike, A-kit suspension, 50HP 250 four stroke. I ride 250 beginner and C class...
0:43 - I'm only half the rider I should be, so that means I'll need twice the bike I ought to have. That makes me (about) a 90%/10% split. The other variables put me slightly lower than that, due to being short-petered and half a beer drinker. So what color gas cap should I get? ~COOL VIDEO~
I love this!!! As a teen I always had the crappiest bikes but it didn't make it any less fun. Perhaps even more fun learning how to improvise. Sure it felt great as an adult being able to buy brand new latest and greatest... but there is something that is lost in that.
Your reviews are brilliant. You just speak the truth and include some humour. Bloody ace keep up the good work. If you are ever in the uk just come and visit . Quick day on enduro bikes then a fair few beers and some games of pool and a few more beers. What could be more perfect
Me and my dad went on a trail ride quite a long time ago. and he was on a 1990 xr250 cause all his other bikes are for racing but all these guys had modern 450s and 250s and my dad was blowing them away and I was blowing some of them away and I was on a klx140 back then. And after we did a lap a guy came up and was like man I can't believe how fast you were going on this old bike. Just shows you how some people don't need what they have and it's not all the bike.
20% is a lot, isn't it? Maybe things are quite different in enduro but when I got my new bike for MX I got way faster very quick because the suspension was better and the power kicked in more smoothly (all my bikes have way too much power for me =D). Also it cornered more willingly. Good stuff!
I think it should be said that depending on the type of riding or racing you are doing you should replace and upgrade the parts you know are and could possibly fail -shift and brake levers top and bottom,pegs,chain,triple trees,brake pad oiling pump etc.
i agree the bike doesn’t matter but have you ever rode with the suspension set up weird handlebars in the wrong spot idle and jetting is off you can’t go to your full potential so i’d say really it’s 20 bike 80 rider on a nicely set up bike but around 40 60 on a poorly set up bike you just can’t ride as hard as you can on a bike if your fighting it:) but over all love your videos and they help a lot:))
I totally agree on it being 80% the rider and 20% the bike, my old man does trail riding with us on a Yamaha Townmate T80 Step-Through (Similar to the C90)! It goes nearly everywhere we do, struggles on steep hill climbs but that is literally it!
Not bad for a 55 year old either ;) Believe it or not but he would prefer to take his chicken chaser out over his Honda XR600R! 😂 keep up the good vids, love them!
Have to agree on the drz400 comments, although a bit heavy will go 95% of the places other bikes can. Don't exactly agree on the tyres comment though, a good tyre gives you more confidence in your ability to throw it round but the down side is they don't last once you hit the tarmac. Straight out the box they are a capable machine and with a few mods like bash plates, radiator guards, unbreakable levers, click n ride indicators etc they are virtually indestructible. Up the mighty DRZ.
The DRZ has loads of traction. I used to own one and I have to say that on many hills the DRZ struggle less than my KTM 350. One hill that took me like 10 tries with my KTM (almost as many with my Husaberg 570) I did it first time with the DRZ (the big one...the Dualsport version at 132kg). The only thing I didn't like on the DRZ400s is the lack of power and was heavy to pick up when I fell. Otherwise, it's a sweet machine!
amen to that duane. i even took my DRZ400S on road rides.... if the guys were doing 150kmh+ i would have to slipstream behind one of them to keep up though.
I was taught 90% rider 10% bike. I also agree with 80/20 as well. Take riding lessons, cross train, lose weight and maintain your bike! Great video, liked and subscribed!
I've always left my bikes stock, never seen the need to upgrade anything if I'm not using all its capabilities. But I have to say this, I used to own a 200 wr 450f, I was a half decent rider but lacked in confidence. I eventually sold that and bought my '15 husky TE250. first ride I felt so much more confident and much faster if I may say so myself. 🙄 Bottom line, I agree partly with what you say. sometimes it can be the bike that can help alot. other than protection, I haven't done anything to this bike yet. I have the 4cs forks though so I think ill get them done soon. keep the good vids coming baz!
for years I have been thinking about selling my 125 4 stroke and buying a proper bike, now I know there's no need for a new bike since I still can learn and have fun with my current one.
While riding skill is 80% rider 20% bike, I've found riding FUN is 80% BIKE 20% rider. The amount of fun you can have on a small bike with a low seat height is exponentially more than a large bike.
This is sort of true. Yes, the message here is "get gud" but if all riders are equal, the better equipment pays off. At one point my dad and I had WR 450s. Mine a basically stock 05, and my dad had a pretty tricked out 08. Dad's had a Scott's steering stabilizer and tuned Race Tech suspension. The group I ride with is all fairly matched in skill, but everyone rode much faster on my dad's WR. It was like riding a couch. Blow through rock gardens and just gave everyone a lot more confidence to go fast.
yes better equipment can pay off, but we are just trying to say riding skill generally pays off more e.g. you might ride 20% better with a really good bike well setup, but working on your technique could have an 80% improvement. :)
If you ride a bike that makes a rough track feel like a freeway you're gonna go faster. What we need to look at is how a rider develops over time on a given bike. A beginner racing C1 is much faster at the end of the season than if he raced C3, yet his times in his first race would have been similar on either bike. I really feel for guys that say it's not the bike it's me, cause they're not exploring the potential of a setup that improves their confidence, speed and safety.
I mean it's absolutely true, if you're only in it for the fun save the money for trips to different tracks or riding spots that will return you much more.
It's so true,, any 250 2 stroke or maico 490 from the 80s with the properly skilled rider would beat any other new bikes out this year,, absolutely no doubt about it,
solid proof of this.. my 58 year old fad can still keep up with me on my crf450 with his XR200 unless I am.really on the ball that day or we are in more flowing terrain. I probably have 4x the power. way more suspension travel and exceptional brakes. but that old air cooled tractor with that old fart piloting it keeps up pretty good.
CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS everyone knows the legends of the Almighty XR200 in the Temple of Extreme Endurology. Alongside the Patron Saint Beta the Holy and Pure. Blessed be their names.
My only comment on this would be ensure you don’t buy a bike which out horsepowers your skill level. The great news with this is for novice riders this means your best bet for learning and your wallet is a small bore, used bike which will tractor through the rough stuff. The most important thing I have done as a new rider is to learn how to do everything at low speed. If you don’t need to go fast and get big air and old, small bike is perfectly adequate and IMO preferable.
Hi I'm in the UK and I need friends like U guys. u love bikes u love riding and u love to joke about and have a laugh ..... in the UK all the bike group does is sit in a car park smoking vape pens. Good to see there's great bike people out there.
I just bought a DR-Z 125 over a KX 125... a lot of difference in the size but I felt most comfortable on the DR-Z...I think comfort lever plays a huge part when deciding what to take on the trial.
Aside from your head and body , I'd say suspension and tyres are the two big ticket items , then in real tight technical and wet conditions , bike weight . Its true , in prime riding conditions I'll get my 650 SUPERDUAL where i get my 450 Husky where i get my GASGAS 300 , once it rains though its a different ball game .
I couldn't agree anymore. I've taken my 2000 drz400e on the hardest trails in Moab the last two years as well as some pretty crazy stuff out here in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado. even have it weighed down with a lot of tools and a 4 gallon gas tank. I am however very excited about getting an updated dirtbike in the future... I haven't even ridden on anything besides it and my street bikes of years past. So it's going to be pretty interesting getting on a light bike with more power. Oh yeah and an actual suspension :-)
a lighter enduro bike will feel awesome, no denying that. but the interesting thing is you actually won't be riding that much faster, or tackling much much harder stuff. you will be, but i think the mind amplifies things lol.
My buddy bought a new KTM because salesman guaranteed he would become a faster rider. When he got home he dumped the bike unloading it from the truck and broke his hip. He did add a lot of carbon fiber to it while on crutches😀
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Wow!, finally someone has had the balls to tell the truth about dirt riding and all over the internet too! Well-done!
It's every sport. People always think it's the equipment, not them. Golf, fishing, darts, basketball... "It's got to be the shoes"
Yep ,that's what makes our man so gold ...and he said he's a crap rider and he's god ✊️
My dad always said "dirt biking is 80% physical and the other half is mental" it will always be a good quote.
Growing up we rode until the tires were BALD! Now that makes you a better rider!! The tires others were throwing away, were my bitchin' new ones!!
*80+50=130%* I'm just gonna leave this here.
Wheelie Everything DEAD
Sandlot Rider thats the point
@@garybullwinkle6784 more than that... learning how to ride with flats cause you couldn't get a ride to the bike shop. Some skills only come from pure passion and joy, and determination.
I'll never forget when I got my rand new 450x...that bike had so much power compared to anything else I had ridden. I took it to the desert, and laughed at this kid on a 100cc 4 stroke bike who wanted to race me.
Yeah... That desert rat kid destroyed me and I was riding to the utmost of my abilities... Haha I hope that kid felt good about his skills he sure earned that win.
Austin T. You didn’t learn anything from the video
I actually love seeing guys with the latest bikes, latest gear, $2000 worth of bling addons, they generally also drive a nice car and have Justin Bieber like personal grooming and the latest sunnies.....
So, nothing gives me more pleasure than leaving then behind multiple times on any of my old bikes and riding gear from the late '90's.
This was great secret pleasure of mine, until i ran into a farmer from the NSW Alpine area with his clapped out old XR200, black leather Rossi boots with jeans and no front brake.
Yep, you guessed it, i got tested, he was playing an even bigger game than me!
Turned out to be an Ex NSW Enduro legend.... One hell of a top fella and all round nice guy too.
cool story! i'd love to get someone like gally at 50 years of age and put him on an XL185 and watch him hose all the young guys on brand new euro bikes. :)
Hugh Jazz, hmmm, i am pretty sure Jeffrey Herlings fits that bill. You must be stinking fast on your oldies.
what are sunnies?
@@caseymoto, fuel additives to prevent valve seats on older 2 strokes burning out
What if you can afford a new bike? Does one have to ride clapped to be full of grit? Asking for a friend.
You can remove foot pegs to make the bike lighter and significantly double your horse power
now you tell me... how did i miss this julien? i'll experiment next weekend and report back.
Julien OnMx my bike is pretty smart. it regularly chucks me off to tell me I'd do better walking.
Horse Power = More stikers
I removed the backfender and got around 97hp out of my bike dat bish crazy
Change the stock power band to the purple power band for more power :-P
makes no difference what bike I'm on , I'm still crap .
Spot on Barry. Happens in all sports; we're advertised to constantly with promises of augmentation in exchange for our hard earned. My 300RR whispers sweet nothings into my ear at night and that makes up for all the money I have spent on her... Life is short, enjoy your ride whatever it is - an old banger or a shiny new bit of tech.
amen... nothing like the whispers of an italian princess!
I am 57 years old and bought a new 2016 Husky 450 after 28 years of not riding. The new bike has made all the difference in my enjoyment and ripping it up. My skill level and confidence has greatly improved and I can ride with all but the most fearless. I rode all the older bikes since I was 5, and all that skill transferred right over. The new bike made me very happy.
Damn! Everything he said is spot on. I've got a Drz400SM and it can go just about anywhere an actual dirt bike can go. I've taken it to the most popular O.R.V. parks in the state of Washington and the bike overcomes just about any obstacle. I've only done minimal tuning, including a 3x3 airbox mod and changed out the stock dunlop tyres for Avon distanzia's. It truly is all about the rider.
Stickers add hp and help you alot
Ooh and nice vid!
they have to have rounded edges though, don't they? for less air resistance?
Can confirm. I put a bunch of stickers on my 300RR and I'm pretty sure it now goes about 10% faster.
Klaani K only flame stickers make you faster
Tim Allen yea but stickers can protect your panels from getting damaged too
Great Video. It feels good taking my older bikes out showing the new bikes i can go anywhere they go. And on the track i can keep up with any equal experience rider on their newer bikes. Not putting down new bikes, i myself would love to have one. But its great to hear someone speak the truth about ability through practice not pocket book.
This is the best bike related video I´ve ever seen, finally a full of common sense and no BS!!!!. 6:48 minutes of honest, down to earth shit.
thanks for reminding me what this enduro thing is all about!!!
hahaha you are a legend! This is so accurate though. I ride with so many people who have excuse after excuse. My only excuse I ever use is that I ran out of talent!
those damned excuses, joe! i still come up with them all the time then laugh afterwards when i realise my lack of ability was most of the problem lol.
My only excuse is, I suck. But, I keep bomb weed so they always wait on me to catch up.
I love this vid. When I read forums threads, especially on ADVRider, I cringe at the many motorbike blaming/shaming posts. Always the tires, the knobs, the displacement or the seat; and never the rider. My fav all time post is the one where this guy blames his kevlar jeans for not stopping a severe laceration to his leg as he wrapped it around a metal road barrier at high speed. Another fav is the inmate who blamed a particular tire for breaking his leg and always proceeds (for several years now) to comment on any thread that mentions this particular tire claiming that it "sucks" and "broke my leg".
But I have to add my fav positive comment. On one thread inmates were complaining about knobby wear when some wise "Kung Fu" sifu wrote, (paraphrased) Grasshoppers, some kid in some desert is riding in deep sand with tires balder than my shiny head, and the rider is having fun.
"Grasshoppers, some kid in some desert is riding in deep sand with tires balder than my shiny head, and the rider is having fun"
that pretty much sums it up diego. 😁
Lol true, advrider is full of good information but there are so many snobs worried about pointless shit that sometimes it gets annoying, freaking snowflakes
I suffer from tinkeritis..... cant leave shit alone.... even if it works good....lol
MrDuhfactor I HAVE NEVER RELATED TO A COMMENT MORE!!!
Lol same if something is even slightly off I need to fix it or it drives me crazy
If it helps to prevent suffering from eucalyptus interruptus then tinker away 😁
My thoughts are that if we spend some un-necessary money on un-necessary thing but they make us feel good and confidence levels raise, the ability and success should raise with it.
The mathematics..
Impressing others X swelling in genitals / financial outlay = confidence on bike X perceived skill improvement / actual skill improvement = slight gain in skill + bigger smile during end of ride drinks.... X supporting bike industry = go nuts boys and girls!!!
Hedonism - if it feels good, do it.
Great vid Barry
an excellent point adam! i agree that if you simply like bling then why not go for it?
I use a helmet that doesnt even have a visor anymore 😂😂 bc i dont feel like buying a new one still works as a helmet.(i hit to many trees to even bother getting a new on would break first time out)
Excellent contribution as usual.
This stuff applies even more to us road bike riders.
Love your videos.
Instructions unclear, I financed two Africa twins but still can't wheelie please send help
two pink anodized fuel caps on the way
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ArmasADVish Nah Mate, you're gonna need to invest in some different color power bands.
ArmasADVish lol
Hahaha. I want to be your friend
Totally agree. I've watched a local prodigy do a gnarly hill climb on a stock 450 track bike in a little over 11 seconds. His competition is everything under the sun, including a 750-4s with extended swingarms - and the fastest time they can clock is 14 seconds.
I ride the bikes that make me happy. For the most part that's been late-70s to early-80s MX bikes. They're still much faster than I ever could be, and I love the style. Lately I've been riding my super sketchy hot-rodded 1967 Kawasaki 120, and that thing is the purest essence of fun! In spite of being a 250lb lard ass on an ancient child's bike, the thing still absolutely rips in the single track and is easily fast enough that no one I ride with has to wait for me all day. Plus, with 3 inches of suspension in the rear, you develop good line selection!
This is my go to channel for advice, its spot on and not about him, unlike many, most others out there.Thank you for taking the time.
cheers WHO, glad you enjoy the channel. if it was completely about me it would get boring very quickly lol.
Some of the most fun I've had riding the trails has been on my ancient air-cooled, dual-rear-shock, two stroke Husqvarna 250. It would go anywhere I pointed it, assuming I didn't get tossed off. I also have a DR650, it it always amazes me just what I can get away with on that Bush pig.
I have a old 390 and a 430. I love the Husqvarna power..
I had a 1972 Montesa King Scorpion it was a fun enduro bike. Had it for 10 years wish I had it still. Paid $749,00 for it brand new. It was light had good power . It took a pounding . Glad I had it before a street bike. I learned a lot on that bike Everyone should ride dirt first. Still riding at 64 no accidents but a few expensive slides .
Man I am way too late to get to this video... brilliant!
thank tyler, i hope all is sorting itself out on the home front, you dual sporting desert riding graphic designing former teacher you!
same
hello From Bulgaria my name is Viktor 24y old and i am your fan from a long time ago and love your videos all of them are full of information i watch them with joy and i wanted to wish god bless ya and your loved ones!
cheers kivi!
Great Video, I generally agree, having hauled a DZR through most of the Canadian Corduroy (DNF) though a lighter bike like the 185 used to compare would have been easier. Also the Chris Birch remark is really a joke as the KTM 1190 is one of the premier bikes on the planet, though he could probably ride a street bike better in the dirt than many of us mortals, the 1190 IS TOP GEAR. Love your philosophy however and your vids.....well done
So you actually came up and wrote an entire math equation to prove your point??? This guy is a genius!!!
I had a 91’ xr 250 after not riding for years. Took it up to walker valley in Washington and didn’t crash once. Upgraded to a 2012 CRF 250 X and have done nothing but eat shit. That’s why I watch your videos.
Just found your channels and can't stop watching all the videos.. I've got to go back and re-watch most of them b/c I'm doubled over laughing. Great job!
glad you like them hock, we've the adventure oz channel too although it's mostly older vids. :)
A few years back I had a crf230 and I was surprised at how many brand new euro bikes I would pass on the trails and how many hill climbs I could make and they would not even attempt. I enjoyed that little cheap second hand bike so much I kinda want to get another one.
Hahahaha this is great! I ripped a stock crf230 on an endurocross track and did really well. I got alot of greif when i showed up on it but gained respect through my riding abilities. I learned on hondas and yamahas from the early 80s and have owned fuel injected ktms and everything in between and have had just as much fun and learned just as much on each and every bike.
Dominoc Weber lol I have a crf230 as well and my 250 buddies were talking crap till I was riding harder then them in the trails out here in Oregon 🤟🏽💯 it’s not the bike it’s the rider
@@moreofjosem5363 👊👊
i have a ol' 82 cr125 and i feel better now after watching this vid... : )
no school like the old school!
Cmon m8 thats a hell of a bike
Age doesn't hurt I'm on an 89' cr 250 great bike still kicking it with the 03's yz 250s and taking the same air
I race a kdx 200 and a crazy fast 83 kx250. I love wasting guys with new bikes that put more into their suspension then I bought my whole bike for! Been doing it for years!
I just picked up a clapped 83 cr125 lol i got it running but it needs a clutch cable, this ones broken. This is my first dirtbike
Dig it..! I've been riding my whole life, so ill tell ya -relaxing and fun watching ..! I've had the best and had used, just take care of your machine and get out there and ride!.. Good times everyone.. ✌
When I was 16, back in the early 70's, and couldn't afford to buy my own bike. I use to ride my uncle's Yamaha RD250 street bike at the local trails. Nothing to gnarly, but honest dirt trails. I had a blast. And he never complained how dirty it always was when I brought it back.
I rode a modified Honda S-65 bike in endures back in the late 1960s. I always finished and really never had much of a problem with anything except lack of speed. It really is more rider than bike.
beer always makes my bike faster
gentile joshsaved and lighter!
I fuel mine with whisky and fill the tyres with hydrogen!! Thats what made thw Hindenburg light enough to float right?
Excellent Vid!! reminds me years ago I had a 75 xl350 bought for 300 bucks. beatup but ran great, use to ride with acouple guys, 1 with a gasgas ,1 with a ktm. realistically they all went the same places not much far apart. since then ive had a yz450f and now a drz400s. I still think of that old xl350 remembering areas on the trails that bike had benefits riding threw vs the more recent units.
I will say a good bike will help. Not necessarily needing the new orientation of orange plastic from Austria but having a good suspension setup, tires and gearing make so much difference on any bike. I started on an old rm250 with shot suspension. Rode it for years without a care because I didn't know better. Fixed it up and it was night and day. My confidence level changed drastically as well.
Such great vids,newbie here,I bought a DR 650 because of your vids,Soooo happy I did.15000 km sins February,snow,mud,gravel,hightway,no problems.i have not drove the car suns then...addicted.
glad you are enjoying the big bush pig, david! i'd love to have one in the garage if i had a spare $6000. one day.... :)
In the face of superior technology, superior technique always prevails!
Such a true word spoken ..I found this out by having a bike for a long time only to find the guys who up dated their bikes were no faster . sure in a flat stretch they had the hp but generally it was just a few bike lengths of gain in a days riding .... not enough for me to warrant a new 10 g bike
I highly appreciate this format and attitude towards proving a point and making an entertaining vid
Everything in your videos is well thought out /true to my 40 +years of experience/250 plus motorcycles and my skill level is way off some of the displays here.I often read things on forums/websites that are pure nonsense.That Dr650 ?? display was pretty good stuff.Old pigs like my DR600 tractor up where "little engine" sometimes cant.great videos -keep em coming!
Super video! A few years back I was practicing at the MC track and just about everybody had shiney new 450 s when a guy with a beat up old KX 25O and ancient gear shows up smokes everyone. Yes it is the rider but I need every advantage I can get!
This video is so true. I’m 15, I ride a 1990 KDX200, it’s all I could afford, I only weight 132 pounds and I’m not that tall so it’s a challenge, but it’s great to know that there are others proving that it’s the rider, not the bike
I ride on bold tyres. The extra weight of the rubber steals lots of horse power. Also with very small knobs you get much more rubber contact with the ground hence more grip.
People tell me I could do with a new tyre. I tell them that when I can't get up the hills I will change it or when the thread is below the 2mm road legal limit. I still manage to get up all the hills, so have not changed the tyre.
I ride a 93KLX 300 no magic button. I found it helps my clutch skills as I am always trying to avoid stalling so I do not have to kick start in awkward positions. I did get the suspension tuned. The 43mm USD forks really rock and got a flat seat.
It is a little under powered on the open tracks but it still seems to keep up with the new bikes. I just have to rev it a bit more.
Haha good stuff here!!!! I ride a mountain bike that is considered somewhat outdated by most but you know what? I can still kick major arse on it! Everyone else can BRING IT! In other news, I used to own an XL185S too!
My first bike was an xl185! Reliable as a claw hammer-had so much fun.
I joind a trail riders club (in Brazil) last week and today was my first lesson. In the club I realised that all riders have a very good bikes (KTM, husaberg, gasgas, etc), but I have XR200 (2002) as a beginner. When my teatcher did a ride on my bike he and his coligue were saying that I should change the bike because is sh.....it...(suspension for street, low position of footpegs, clutch, etc). But I told him that I want to focus on skills first and then on bike. Your video made me more confident!!!
well said! these were fantastic bikes when new, and you can still learn a lot. :)
I have a KLX250SF (17" street tires) and I had no problem keeping up with my buddy on his WR400. Only in dry conditions mind you but riding skills are definitely 80-90% of the equation. I have since converted the supermoto to an enduro and it's awesome, Bill Blue's 351 big bore kit helped too ;)
When I was 17 I used to ride on an ex army Armstrong 500cc rotax pig drum brakes only, that thing made my road and off-road riding pretty good. As soon as I could afford something lighter I was flying, but I've always been more interested in" riding slow and technical than fast and hopeful."
I've had 4 years off about to get another KTM 300exc all I can afford is an 06 but I know in a year I will be doing technical stuff again with the added benefit of now having a partner she's excited about learning and so am I.
sounds like a match made in heaven, matt 😊
His choice of tires: "The cheapest no name brands he can get his hands on. If they are black and made of a kind of rubbery substance." hahaha. So funny. This is classic.
thankyou, for being one of those humans that attempts to dissolve the ego of others, your a good bloke mate. I bought a wr450 the other day tell ya what its a bmx with NOS compared to my old bike. love you vids.
cheers barney, i was chatting with the traction erag guys about this last summer and they were getting fed up with all the glossy bike mags working in cahoots with the advertisers to tell readers the opposite message. :)
The sarcastic voice cracks me up….. love it 🤙🤙
You have push me over the edge!! I had a CRF 250x and have sold it and brought a XR250r 1984 model 80% rider 20% bike. I am determined to push myself to become a better rider! No excuses! Thanks heaps, I'll post stuff on my channel of me progress.
damn, that's really going out of your way to test the theory lol. a great bike to do it on though. 👍
@@crosstrainingenduro yeah let's see how I go. Haha awesome vids buy the way 👍👍👍
My mate and I went riding in some twisty mountain tarmac roads, me on a Himalayan, him on a V-Strom 650. Despite having over twice the power with his Suzuki he couldn't keep up with the Himalayan. I think he was afraid of leaning deep on curves on Shinko 705s... his mind kept him from going faster. The torque on the Himalayan certainly helped, but I was scraping pegs on both sides on the way up the hill...
Happens everytime my dad would go riding with us on our new bikes. He always shows up with his 1972 hodaka wombat 125. Other than the straights, he leaves us behind on anything technical. Of course he has been riding that bike for 36 years and riding for over 43 years total.
As always...great stuff, Barry! I appreciate the work you put into the content of your vids! Cheers!
thanks allen :)
Great vid as always. I'm just happy that my "old" XR650L runs like a champ and starts up all day every day with just a little flick of the e-button. My first bike was a Honda 100xl and it ran like a champ also. Sometimes older is better.
This is just a reminder of why I do love this channel ! 😁☺
I have a 2015 bike , and get shown up many times over by older men on 80s bikes with smiles on their faces.
Someday I might just be one of those guys !
This is probably mostly true. I use to ride a 1973 suzuki TM-400 in the trails, and it performed superbly. Now I ride a 2005 CRF450X, and while I'll admit the suspension and handling is greatly improved on the newer bike, I still feel like I could rip around just as quickly on the old rock hard frame suzuki.
Not long ago I had a Kawasaki Super Sherpa. It was my commuter and bush basher. As much as I was told it couldn't go enduro, couldn't do single track or technical terrain, with practice that beast would go anywhere. Sure I stacked and dropped it alot, but I learnt how to use that bike far past what it was designed for.
Soooo true. I managed to score a VERY impressive bike. ex-CNMA rider's bike, A-kit suspension, 50HP 250 four stroke.
I ride 250 beginner and C class...
I love your training videos. These have helped me a lot with learning to not only ride faster, but more consistent and more technical.
music to my ears, glad the vids are useful!
Your an inspiration my friend and your vids/philosophy constantly put me back on track! Thanks ol boy!!!
-middle aged highly motivated, new rider
0:43 - I'm only half the rider I should be, so that means I'll need twice the bike I ought to have. That makes me (about) a 90%/10% split. The other variables put me slightly lower than that, due to being short-petered and half a beer drinker. So what color gas cap should I get? ~COOL VIDEO~
Thank You for taking time to make videos,I thoroughly enjoy your sense of humor and great riding instruction.
thanks jay!
I love this!!! As a teen I always had the crappiest bikes but it didn't make it any less fun. Perhaps even more fun learning how to improvise. Sure it felt great as an adult being able to buy brand new latest and greatest... but there is something that is lost in that.
so true, troy. i got to ride traction erag's 1986 XR200 again this canadian summer and had so much fun on the old girl....
Your reviews are brilliant. You just speak the truth and include some humour. Bloody ace keep up the good work. If you are ever in the uk just come and visit . Quick day on enduro bikes then a fair few beers and some games of pool and a few more beers. What could be more perfect
cheers garry, you never know... i might get my sorry arse over there one day!
But im a 10% rider, so if im on a 20% bike instead of a 5% bike ill be more than double better.
Simply humbling, Barry. Am practicing the basics on a 1986 Honda TLR 200 vintage trials. Still much learning to approach Clubman rank.
awesome old bikes, i had one of the 250s as a teenager. :)
Me and my dad went on a trail ride quite a long time ago. and he was on a 1990 xr250 cause all his other bikes are for racing but all these guys had modern 450s and 250s and my dad was blowing them away and I was blowing some of them away and I was on a klx140 back then. And after we did a lap a guy came up and was like man I can't believe how fast you were going on this old bike. Just shows you how some people don't need what they have and it's not all the bike.
20% is a lot, isn't it?
Maybe things are quite different in enduro but when I got my new bike for MX I got way faster very quick because the suspension was better and the power kicked in more smoothly (all my bikes have way too much power for me =D). Also it cornered more willingly. Good stuff!
Excellent post - every newbie should watch it. There is no substitute for the knowledge and skill.
Actually we are doing a video for newcomers to dirt riding and it will be a key principle....
I think it should be said that depending on the type of riding or racing you are doing you should replace and upgrade the parts you know are and could possibly fail -shift and brake levers top and bottom,pegs,chain,triple trees,brake pad oiling pump etc.
i agree the bike doesn’t matter but have you ever rode with the suspension set up weird handlebars in the wrong spot idle and jetting is off you can’t go to your full potential so i’d say really it’s 20 bike 80 rider on a nicely set up bike but around 40 60 on a poorly set up bike you just can’t ride as hard as you can on a bike if your fighting it:) but over all love your videos and they help a lot:))
I totally agree on it being 80% the rider and 20% the bike, my old man does trail riding with us on a Yamaha Townmate T80 Step-Through (Similar to the C90)! It goes nearly everywhere we do, struggles on steep hill climbs but that is literally it!
awesome... love hearing about stuff like this.
Not bad for a 55 year old either ;) Believe it or not but he would prefer to take his chicken chaser out over his Honda XR600R! 😂 keep up the good vids, love them!
Have to agree on the drz400 comments, although a bit heavy will go 95% of the places other bikes can. Don't exactly agree on the tyres comment though, a good tyre gives you more confidence in your ability to throw it round but the down side is they don't last once you hit the tarmac. Straight out the box they are a capable machine and with a few mods like bash plates, radiator guards, unbreakable levers, click n ride indicators etc they are virtually indestructible. Up the mighty DRZ.
The DRZ has loads of traction. I used to own one and I have to say that on many hills the DRZ struggle less than my KTM 350. One hill that took me like 10 tries with my KTM (almost as many with my Husaberg 570) I did it first time with the DRZ (the big one...the Dualsport version at 132kg). The only thing I didn't like on the DRZ400s is the lack of power and was heavy to pick up when I fell. Otherwise, it's a sweet machine!
amen to that duane. i even took my DRZ400S on road rides.... if the guys were doing 150kmh+ i would have to slipstream behind one of them to keep up though.
I was taught 90% rider 10% bike. I also agree with 80/20 as well. Take riding lessons, cross train, lose weight and maintain your bike! Great video, liked and subscribed!
I've always left my bikes stock, never seen the need to upgrade anything if I'm not using all its capabilities. But I have to say this, I used to own a 200 wr 450f, I was a half decent rider but lacked in confidence. I eventually sold that and bought my '15 husky TE250. first ride I felt so much more confident and much faster if I may say so myself. 🙄
Bottom line, I agree partly with what you say. sometimes it can be the bike that can help alot. other than protection, I haven't done anything to this bike yet. I have the 4cs forks though so I think ill get them done soon.
keep the good vids coming baz!
for years I have been thinking about selling my 125 4 stroke and buying a proper bike, now I know there's no need for a new bike since I still can learn and have fun with my current one.
While riding skill is 80% rider 20% bike, I've found riding FUN is 80% BIKE 20% rider. The amount of fun you can have on a small bike with a low seat height is exponentially more than a large bike.
This is sort of true. Yes, the message here is "get gud" but if all riders are equal, the better equipment pays off. At one point my dad and I had WR 450s. Mine a basically stock 05, and my dad had a pretty tricked out 08. Dad's had a Scott's steering stabilizer and tuned Race Tech suspension. The group I ride with is all fairly matched in skill, but everyone rode much faster on my dad's WR. It was like riding a couch. Blow through rock gardens and just gave everyone a lot more confidence to go fast.
yes better equipment can pay off, but we are just trying to say riding skill generally pays off more e.g. you might ride 20% better with a really good bike well setup, but working on your technique could have an 80% improvement. :)
This is both tough love and encouragement. Me and my '85 DR600S like very much :)
If you ride a bike that makes a rough track feel like a freeway you're gonna go faster. What we need to look at is how a rider develops over time on a given bike. A beginner racing C1 is much faster at the end of the season than if he raced C3, yet his times in his first race would have been similar on either bike. I really feel for guys that say it's not the bike it's me, cause they're not exploring the potential of a setup that improves their confidence, speed and safety.
Reminds me of all the crazy trails I used to ride on my old CT 110.......things guys on new/large bikes wouldn't go near.....
I could paddle my way through hell on my DT175, old bikes just loves the gnarly stuff. But my yz250x is a hell of a lot of fun.
I mean it's absolutely true, if you're only in it for the fun save the money for trips to different tracks or riding spots that will return you much more.
It's so true,, any 250 2 stroke or maico 490 from the 80s with the properly skilled rider would beat any other new bikes out this year,, absolutely no doubt about it,
solid proof of this.. my 58 year old fad can still keep up with me on my crf450 with his XR200 unless I am.really on the ball that day or we are in more flowing terrain. I probably have 4x the power. way more suspension travel and exceptional brakes. but that old air cooled tractor with that old fart piloting it keeps up pretty good.
we both had a great laugh at your XR200 video.
go the mighty XR200. amen.
CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS everyone knows the legends of the Almighty XR200 in the Temple of Extreme Endurology. Alongside the Patron Saint Beta the Holy and Pure. Blessed be their names.
My only comment on this would be ensure you don’t buy a bike which out horsepowers your skill level. The great news with this is for novice riders this means your best bet for learning and your wallet is a small bore, used bike which will tractor through the rough stuff. The most important thing I have done as a new rider is to learn how to do everything at low speed. If you don’t need to go fast and get big air and old, small bike is perfectly adequate and IMO preferable.
Hi I'm in the UK and I need friends like U guys. u love bikes u love riding and u love to joke about and have a laugh ..... in the UK all the bike group does is sit in a car park smoking vape pens. Good to see there's great bike people out there.
There’s a guy in my area that wins all the trail rides on a 125cc bike. So really this is very accurate video. He is just brilliant
I just bought a DR-Z 125 over a KX 125... a lot of difference in the size but I felt most comfortable on the DR-Z...I think comfort lever plays a huge part when deciding what to take on the trial.
Aside from your head and body , I'd say suspension and tyres are the two big ticket items , then in real tight technical and wet conditions , bike weight . Its true , in prime riding conditions I'll get my 650 SUPERDUAL where i get my 450 Husky where i get my GASGAS 300 , once it rains though its a different ball game .
I couldn't agree anymore. I've taken my 2000 drz400e on the hardest trails in Moab the last two years as well as some pretty crazy stuff out here in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado.
even have it weighed down with a lot of tools and a 4 gallon gas tank. I am however very excited about getting an updated dirtbike in the future... I haven't even ridden on anything besides it and my street bikes of years past. So it's going to be pretty interesting getting on a light bike with more power. Oh yeah and an actual suspension :-)
a lighter enduro bike will feel awesome, no denying that. but the interesting thing is you actually won't be riding that much faster, or tackling much much harder stuff. you will be, but i think the mind amplifies things lol.
My buddy bought a new KTM because salesman guaranteed he would become a faster rider. When he got home he dumped the bike unloading it from the truck and broke his hip. He did add a lot of carbon fiber to it while on crutches😀
loved the Suzuki PE. That brings back memories