Kurt Vonnegut on the Shapes of Stories

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2010
  • Short lecture by Kurt Vonnegut on the 'simple shapes of stories.'

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  • @melchiorvulpius8170
    @melchiorvulpius8170 8 лет назад +937

    This is really cool. It's like a cross between a college lecture and a stand-up comedy routine!

    • @garfocusalternate
      @garfocusalternate 8 лет назад +93

      +Jeff Weskamp What every college lecture ought to be, really.

    • @pravinda333
      @pravinda333 7 лет назад +8

      Well, sometimes the roles are reversed.

    • @AAmoroso
      @AAmoroso 2 года назад +3

      look up the video where he's older and it has spanish ("castellano") subtitles. he includes a shakespearean story "arch".

    • @-RandomBiz-
      @-RandomBiz- 2 года назад +1

      This story and the story of Hamlet can be found in his book a man without a country.

    • @jacobkennedy1009
      @jacobkennedy1009 Год назад +2

      Fun is our brains favourite way to learn 😁👍

  • @Shockeye00
    @Shockeye00 8 лет назад +532

    Such a wonderful dry humor. He is one of my all time favorites. "Goddamnit!"

  • @Tujdosen
    @Tujdosen 13 лет назад +94

    "Off-scale happiness" sounds a lot better than "lives happily ever after"

  • @ghwalsh90
    @ghwalsh90 11 лет назад +109

    Kurt Vonnegut was a true artist with an unrivaled literary voice. This man lived an incredible life, one that will forever be immortalized in his many short stories, novels, and essays. The day after Kurt Vonnegut passed in 2007, I was set to give a presentation on Vonnegut's life and works in my high school english class. It crushed me to have to add "and so it goes" to the end of the presentation.
    This is one of my favorite of Vonnegut's speeches, wish I could have seen him speak in person!

    • @drelouch544
      @drelouch544 Год назад +5

      Reading "and so it goes" just sent a shiver down my body
      🥲

    • @st.charlesstreet9876
      @st.charlesstreet9876 9 месяцев назад

      Totally Agree! One of the Best literary voices around. Thank You Kurt Vonnegut ❤

    • @Bobbieliz
      @Bobbieliz 8 месяцев назад +3

      I did in circa 1980 at the U of Iowa. It was forever memorable.

    • @ANDROLOMA
      @ANDROLOMA 3 месяца назад

      And so it went.

  • @esceotiti
    @esceotiti 2 года назад +91

    I was fortunate enough to attend one of his speaking engagements. I can’t imagine his take on these dark times… he is sorely missed.

    • @gospelofrye6881
      @gospelofrye6881 Год назад +8

      Whatever his take would have been, it would have ended with: "And so it goes..."

  • @thatoneguy8525
    @thatoneguy8525 7 лет назад +173

    "Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt"

  • @jdweekley
    @jdweekley 9 лет назад +203

    One of the great humorists in American history...
    "What, incidentally, was a pregnant mother of two doing, operating a vacuum cleaner on Mother's Day? She was practically asking for a bullet between the eyes!"

    • @sublimafreud698
      @sublimafreud698 5 лет назад +5

      Deadeye Dick? Also, now that I'm seeing that quote again, if it's actually the one I think it is, I'm realizing it might be a reference to the way people talk about rape.

    • @grannydems5044
      @grannydems5044 3 года назад +4

      Which narrative was this?!

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 2 года назад +1

      @@sublimafreud698 "actually"

    • @jdweekley
      @jdweekley Год назад +7

      @skyhouse Well, he was pointing out how that women, even on the day they're supposed to be celebrated, still feel compelled to do housework, and for that, they deserve to be punished. It's a commentary on the unfairness of these kinds of gender roles and the place of women in society. It's classic Vonnegut.

  • @misterhorse8327
    @misterhorse8327 8 лет назад +40

    The same man who wrote the short story called "The Big Space Fuck."

  • @litheq
    @litheq 3 года назад +38

    01:25 "Somebody gets into trouble - gets out of it again." He just described 'life'.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 2 года назад +2

      Not mine. I'm stuck in trouble.

    • @20000dino
      @20000dino Год назад +1

      @@jamesmcinnis208 I think that's how it actually goes for most of us.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Год назад +1

      @@20000dino That's how it goes.

  • @danielledean8013
    @danielledean8013 11 лет назад +97

    I started reading Vonnegut when I was 15 and I have to say it introduced me to a huge amount of knowledge. There will never be another like him.

    • @conorwellman8592
      @conorwellman8592 Год назад +4

      I wonder how he would map out the curve for slaughter house 5

    • @user-xq6uz6sq3f
      @user-xq6uz6sq3f 8 месяцев назад

      @conorwellman8592 I pretty well know how he'd map a curve for one of today's slaughterhouses.

  • @MattWaltherNaught
    @MattWaltherNaught 10 лет назад +178

    "...Oh God dammit."

    • @amirdeen355
      @amirdeen355 2 года назад +1

      He literally has better comedic timing than a lot of comedians!

  • @3D6Space
    @3D6Space 9 лет назад +112

    I love "off scale happiness"!!!!

  • @andrewm3210
    @andrewm3210 3 года назад +12

    If things had not worked out for Kurt Vonnegut as an author he likely would have had a brilliant career as a standup comedian. His jokes and timing are spot-on. I can imagine growing up watching a cutting-edge but very insightful sitcom called Vonnegut.

  • @ChicoChavez
    @ChicoChavez 3 года назад +706

    Can you imagine the horrible state your life must be in when you thumbs-down a 4 minute video of Kurt Vonnegut explaining fiction?

    • @eriontufa
      @eriontufa 3 года назад +11

      Personally, that is inconceivable.

    • @carriebecker5531
      @carriebecker5531 3 года назад +26

      Don't worry, that person is just the main character in that third storyline.

    • @tothelighthouse9843
      @tothelighthouse9843 2 года назад +5

      Way way wayyyyyyyyy down on the G/I axis!!! So low that not even Kurt Vonnegut can offer his stairs up.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 2 года назад +4

      What I can't imagine is caring if or how many people choose "thumbs-down."

    • @-RandomBiz-
      @-RandomBiz- 2 года назад +2

      @@jamesmcinnis208 you'll get over it. And if you don't it's no one's problem but yours.

  • @kstrehlo
    @kstrehlo 13 лет назад +9

    Elsewhere Vonnegut wrote 8 rules for the short story and ended it by saying that Flannery O'Connor broke all these rules except the first, and that great writers tend to do that. The first rule was "Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted." Vonnegut's stories always did that, although the dark irony of his stories often had characters near the bottom of the chart from B to E. So it goes.

  • @thomcomcastrmt173
    @thomcomcastrmt173 8 лет назад +147

    OH, HE WAS SAYING "BOING BOING" NOT BORING!!

    • @Vitrous
      @Vitrous 4 года назад +13

      you have achieved off scale awareness

    • @jaxentheidiot
      @jaxentheidiot 3 года назад +3

      yo man them subtitles say he sayin boring, not boring. just saying my guy.

  • @belleyboy
    @belleyboy 6 месяцев назад +1

    The "Oh God Damn It!!" @ 1:59 gets me everytime!

  • @judymurray6312
    @judymurray6312 Год назад +10

    Wow! What treasure to have this lecture preserved. I didn't realize he had such a sense of humor.

    • @jasminekeller1904
      @jasminekeller1904 7 месяцев назад

      His humor is a big part of him! His sense of irony and humor often appear in many of his literature pieces I highly recommend them.

  • @scriptr1tr
    @scriptr1tr 5 лет назад +21

    I saw this lecture at the University of Kansas in the late 80's.

  • @kaykap7
    @kaykap7 9 лет назад +16

    I just love Kurt Vonnegut,

  • @ANDROLOMA
    @ANDROLOMA 3 месяца назад +1

    Some of his works were brilliant. Short story recommendation is Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. Some hard-core prophecy. And so it goes.

  • @Captain_Mckeggor
    @Captain_Mckeggor 7 лет назад +80

    With new data mining techniques years later he was absolutely right we can now see the shapes of stories. :)

  • @davereynard
    @davereynard Год назад +8

    I absolutely love this clip - I must have watched it 20 times and it still never fails to make me grin!

  • @doriswhite1348
    @doriswhite1348 9 лет назад +8

    He is just so incredible. Thanks for posting.

  • @gsco82
    @gsco82 11 лет назад +12

    Kurt Vonnegut is my favorite author. I'd recommend any of his novels, but Player Piano, and The Sirens of Titan are particularily excellent.

  • @Uilenstede48
    @Uilenstede48 4 года назад +6

    almost word to word similar to his lecture at the Case Western Univ when he's older. But damn … what do I care … if it isn't nice, I don't know what is! Thank you Mr. Vonnegut. You make my day, Sir!

  • @dsneddon9
    @dsneddon9 12 лет назад +4

    great visualization - I love it!

  • @Bridg2Peace
    @Bridg2Peace 11 лет назад +1

    I LOVE this man. This was fun and brilliant.... Awesome.

  • @bertaga41
    @bertaga41 8 лет назад +30

    What a guy. So funny and so clever.

  • @violaweekend442
    @violaweekend442 5 лет назад

    what a truly remarkable man

  • @mountainashfarmhospitality5156
    @mountainashfarmhospitality5156 7 лет назад +2

    Great writer and humorist. You Tube - our favorite people back in the moment to revisit for eternity. Thank-you computer.

  • @evilartstudio
    @evilartstudio 12 лет назад

    Thank you for posting this - he is rad.

  • @melodramacaminante
    @melodramacaminante 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for uploading it.

  • @RBBardy
    @RBBardy 11 лет назад +3

    this is one of my favorite videos

  • @rushabhparikh4797
    @rushabhparikh4797 2 года назад +1

    The best kind of presentation lecture I've ever seen

  • @gusty7153
    @gusty7153 8 месяцев назад

    my god. the very fundamental structure of narrative is a trope in itself.

  • @MisterF_1984
    @MisterF_1984 7 лет назад

    this is absolutely fantastic!

  • @prans28
    @prans28 3 года назад +1

    I could't stop laughing after a really long time. So wonderful!

  • @62flamenco
    @62flamenco Год назад +1

    What a genius he was! Brilliant!

  • @scoldexperiment1554
    @scoldexperiment1554 2 года назад

    Man's explaining stuff I wouldn't have understood in the most humorous way possible

  • @chrisphan4566
    @chrisphan4566 7 лет назад +8

    He's an icon, an inspiration, a teacher of life not only to artists and writers but to everyone, not only Americans but the world.

    • @JesseSargentSoG
      @JesseSargentSoG 7 лет назад

      Thankfully he was an American. *The majority of the rest of the world would have forced him to do something other than what he loved and likely killed him...* _Lovely socialism._ Most of his life's work was also here so most of his teaching was actually American only.

    • @deadstraight3944
      @deadstraight3944 7 лет назад +2

      funny how he was a socialist and even funnier was how you missed and contorted the original post into your own propaganda

    • @theawesometiger9385
      @theawesometiger9385 7 лет назад

      ...is that racist? Wow

    • @JesseSargentSoG
      @JesseSargentSoG 7 лет назад

      Deadstraight crazy... are you suggesting that his line of work was for socialism? Maybe you don't realize that what you're saying is that this lecture is a direct result of his wo4k for socialist propaganda then; which makes my comment all the more poignant, and you have justified my words despite your laughter.
      Problem is, the tools of propaganda have another, more well-known description with which you may be familiar, and I challenge you to show that I have used any of them; they are afterall more commonly known as *Logical fallacies.*

    • @418Abdul
      @418Abdul 7 лет назад

      And an astoundingly poignant comment it undoubtedly was.

  • @SigmaChi04
    @SigmaChi04 3 года назад

    Great Scott! This is heavy.

  • @aerojockey
    @aerojockey 3 месяца назад

    Soon as he said, "we're gonna start way down here", I knew what story it was.

  • @jj27vv
    @jj27vv 9 лет назад +13

    Love it. Have to keep coming back to it. My problem is trying to have all these plots running together - men in a mess.

    • @wentale
      @wentale 9 лет назад

      I wonder if that also fits the "series", pick the critical points to cut off the story so people keep coming back for more and inevitably end up at the happiness bar!

    • @jj27vv
      @jj27vv 9 лет назад

      I wonder if the series is as he has drawn ... all the patterns together as you follow different characters?

  • @RobertoSabasArtist
    @RobertoSabasArtist 11 лет назад +3

    A humorous but effective (and useful) illustration and analysis of narrative structure.

  • @CHUCK1213
    @CHUCK1213 11 лет назад +8

    Thank you so much for putting this up !
    I have read and reread Vonnegut's novels for many many years and have practically memorized his earlier works verbatim. He taught at the Famous Writer's Workshop at the University of Iowa in the same building where I took some writing courses when I was a chemistry student there and when I found that out, I was ecstatic !!! What a brilliant, funny, compassionate man !

    • @jamesburgess6326
      @jamesburgess6326 2 года назад

      Want some cool trivia? He worked at GE and knew Langmuir. His brother was a scientist there.

    • @Bobbieliz
      @Bobbieliz 8 месяцев назад +1

      During years I lived in IC 2 times in late 1970’s I found myself across the remainders table in the Book Store in the student Union from a fellow in an old crumpled raincoat and I thought that he looked a lot like Kurt Vonnegut ( my fave author). Then I went to a visiting lecture by him. There he was ! The fellow from the remainder table! He did photograph a bit different from in person. It was a great lecture! I think he must have visited friends from time to time.

  • @WillPierce1
    @WillPierce1 5 лет назад

    Brilliant decomposition.

  • @Alkis05
    @Alkis05 2 месяца назад

    What a genius lecturer.

  • @Kitsua
    @Kitsua 11 лет назад

    Love the Bach at the end too.

  • @shockinghorrors
    @shockinghorrors 7 лет назад +3

    "Born and raised in Indianapolis, Indiana, Vonnegut attended Cornell University, but dropped out in January 1943 and enlisted in the United States Army. He was deployed to Europe to fight in World War II, and was captured by the Germans during the Battle of the Bulge. He was interned in Dresden and survived the Allied bombing of the city by taking refuge in a meat locker of the slaughterhouse where he was imprisoned."

  • @JessicaJBrodie
    @JessicaJBrodie 6 лет назад

    Love this!

  • @sergeantmaymay4833
    @sergeantmaymay4833 9 лет назад +13

    This is a fantastic clip. It gives me some new ideas for my subreddit post, and for some new dank may mays. (tips hat in appreciation).

  • @markloveless1001
    @markloveless1001 2 года назад

    I listened to this for a voice sample, trying to figure out his parts in Ken Burns' The Civil War. I was surprised - I didn't realize he was a Hoosier, and it answered my question. I stayed for the essay, and I'm glad I did.

  • @hansombrother1
    @hansombrother1 2 месяца назад

    My favorite author ❤❤❤

  • @mikethompson7321
    @mikethompson7321 8 лет назад +2

    Fabulous...

  • @bootblacking
    @bootblacking 9 лет назад +60

    1:58 gets me every time.

    • @djordjeblaga7815
      @djordjeblaga7815 8 лет назад +2

      +meadslosh me too!
      I think he's ironicly referring to his rule 6. "Be a sadist." :D

    • @CaptCozy
      @CaptCozy 8 лет назад +3

      +meadslosh Me too. I just saw this in my writing class, laughing in the middle of class, and laughed even louder just now.

    • @BillyxRansom
      @BillyxRansom 6 лет назад +1

      "Oh, god dammit"
      Tears every time

    • @therespectedlex9794
      @therespectedlex9794 5 лет назад

      Should we take him literally? I know we don't have to but...

  • @k-popprincess416
    @k-popprincess416 2 месяца назад

    The way he described the story of Cinderella made me smile!!

  • @RoryBramwell
    @RoryBramwell 5 лет назад

    Brilliant!

  • @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
    @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy 3 года назад +4

    Still epic in 2021 ♥️

  • @BlueGuise9
    @BlueGuise9 11 лет назад

    Wow!
    What a legend!

  • @trojanhorse62
    @trojanhorse62 11 лет назад

    This guy is a boss. Nothing more can be said.

  • @alexmathewmendoza
    @alexmathewmendoza 11 лет назад

    an absolute genius. His stories make me laugh, cringe, and more importantly, think.

  • @seanworle
    @seanworle 9 лет назад +86

    Does anybody have more of this lecture, where he goes on to discuss the story curves of Kafka stories, aboriginal legends, and Hamlet? I've read about it, but I'd like to see him giving it, if I could find it.

    • @JordanFrgsn
      @JordanFrgsn 5 лет назад +55

      If anyone is still looking, a longer version has been uploaded here: ruclips.net/video/GOGru_4z1Vc/видео.html

    • @thc_goon
      @thc_goon 5 лет назад +1

      Jordan Ferguson gracias !!

    • @JordanFrgsn
      @JordanFrgsn 5 лет назад +1

      de nada!

    • @-RandomBiz-
      @-RandomBiz- 2 года назад +1

      This entire lecture is in his book a man without a country

  • @juliagoga-cooke6168
    @juliagoga-cooke6168 10 лет назад +1

    I love Kurt

  • @alexcheng0808
    @alexcheng0808 3 года назад

    The piece that plays at the end is Variation 1 from Goldberg Variations by Bach.

  • @user-im9ht4ym3z
    @user-im9ht4ym3z 7 месяцев назад

    He is at the tope of my favorite authors

  • @vincentpendergast2417
    @vincentpendergast2417 6 лет назад +1

    He would have slayed at a TED Talk

  • @BrassBoyz1
    @BrassBoyz1 8 лет назад +10

    slaughter house 5 is one of his best works in my opinion.

    • @fayettevillainJD
      @fayettevillainJD 8 лет назад +13

      +Hunter Brass literally everyone agrees slaughter house 5 is 'one of his best works.'

    • @ritapacheco8059
      @ritapacheco8059 8 лет назад +4

      +Alan Herrera Mother Night is amazing too! :)

    • @sav1050
      @sav1050 6 лет назад +2

      Cat's Cradle, Bluebeard, & God Bless You Mr.Rosewater are excellent reads too!

  • @singmysong4444
    @singmysong4444 6 лет назад

    Brilliant..... yet so simple. Love it!

  • @Saxonation
    @Saxonation 13 лет назад

    Thank you.

  • @The_Hofol
    @The_Hofol 7 лет назад

    1:43 onwards. THE BEST REPRESENTATION EVAR.

  • @CharlotteIssyvoo
    @CharlotteIssyvoo 13 лет назад +2

    Excellent. Perfect for a first year course on the short story. You know, the unit in which you explain how artificial the traditional Western story structure is.

  • @shaolinpunkFTW
    @shaolinpunkFTW 4 месяца назад

    Learned recently he was in the same POW camp as my grandfather... his book Slaughterhouse Five was inspired by that time.

  • @fanboydee
    @fanboydee 11 лет назад

    Brilliant.

  • @hugotsunami3850
    @hugotsunami3850 10 лет назад +5

    Can we get the whole lecture? That would be fantastic

  • @DreamseedVR
    @DreamseedVR 7 месяцев назад

    Wow, this video has been wondering what the shape of the story of my life is

  • @formusicplaylist1
    @formusicplaylist1 11 лет назад +1

    i've read cats cradle and slaughterhouse 5. i absolutely loved everything about them both.
    what vonnegut should i read next?

  • @narrativepodcasts
    @narrativepodcasts Год назад

    We call it "person in hole" these days for our course, but it's still such a useful way of giving a visual to something abstract.

  • @TheNorthernMist
    @TheNorthernMist Год назад

    Pure genius

  • @nextit91
    @nextit91 10 лет назад +1

    Genius!

  • @lancec3
    @lancec3 3 года назад +16

    Not to flex but...I have his son Mark Vonnegut as my pediatrician.

    • @qwaskharjullalamber1441
      @qwaskharjullalamber1441 3 года назад +2

      Jus let him know dat SACHIN a dude from INDIA is a HUGE fan of his dad!! Would love to receive a book Signed by his dad!! 😌... Lol

    • @TheBigtonkss
      @TheBigtonkss Год назад

      @@qwaskharjullalamber1441 sadly, he is no longer with us.

    • @DreamseedVR
      @DreamseedVR 7 месяцев назад

      It's a flex, he had tumultuous life and it's beautiful His son became a doctor. It's really not easy being an artist or a writer, And it's not easy on their families. Bless you both

  • @paradoxinmotion
    @paradoxinmotion 3 года назад

    perfection

  • @neilbarembaum1094
    @neilbarembaum1094 5 лет назад

    So. Most stories can be described by trigonometry. Fascinating.

  • @hobbedgoblin10
    @hobbedgoblin10 5 лет назад +1

    My mom’s weird friend introduced me to his books and they’re really good

  • @k1awdttt
    @k1awdttt 13 лет назад

    Cerealy, we need moar of dis!

  • @TheRapidRadish
    @TheRapidRadish 5 лет назад

    This man can draw straight lines

  • @unclepatrick2
    @unclepatrick2 11 лет назад

    Agree, The Hamlet bit is the best part of skit.

  • @Nw7usUs
    @Nw7usUs 12 лет назад

    Great FUN! And, so very true...

  • @steventurnblade9168
    @steventurnblade9168 6 лет назад

    Interesting illustration.

  • @marceloaraujo8331
    @marceloaraujo8331 7 лет назад

    And so it goes!

  • @1jckinnick
    @1jckinnick 10 лет назад

    I like how the first two scales look like AC wave forms too.

  • @mervertmoon
    @mervertmoon 11 лет назад

    My personal hero

  • @plexitox
    @plexitox 12 лет назад

    I agree. "The Road" had some curve to it. Including several shocking spikes downward. Now "Lost in Translation" was an absolute flatliner.

  • @catherineyang239
    @catherineyang239 6 лет назад +20

    Then there's Flowers for Algernon

  • @leo333333able
    @leo333333able 7 лет назад

    fantastic

  • @sudhindrak
    @sudhindrak 7 лет назад +4

    I think it is the reputation of the brilliant man that is driving the thunderous applause for what was otherwise a funny take on story arcs. Any takers for that appraisal?

    • @Lazyguy22
      @Lazyguy22 7 лет назад

      The one Vonnegut book I've read is Cat's Cradle, which I can't stand. I think this is hilarious.

  • @unclepatrick2
    @unclepatrick2 12 лет назад

    @GiantPetRat
    yes one of the better writters out there

  • @davidjaslow6458
    @davidjaslow6458 2 года назад

    I always loved Kurt's Stories, He was the Best.

  • @Pahlko
    @Pahlko 5 лет назад +1

    Shows how AI will never be a total curve. This man is ahead of his time. Always uplifting to watch this.

  • @zzausel
    @zzausel 11 лет назад

    SO IT GOES