Fixing Social Media for Good.
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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absolute madness :(
RUclips is probably growing more and more afraid of everything that diverges from the party line. I knew a grindcore band that uploaded a video named "Fuck off I'm a Nazi punk" several years ago, pretty much to test the waters. The whole lyrics were exactly this repeating line over a minimalistic d-beat track and the video was something like a random J-Rock video laid over a clip from The Great Dictator; all in all, a blatant absurdist shitpost mocking Napalm Death and Dead Kennedys. For a year there was no reaction. Then came an email like "we're sorry, but your content may be kinda offensive for the audience, so we're removing it from general recommendations; you're still cool though, don't worry, the video stays". A year later came the next email like "you know what, our esteemed experts have decided your video, in fact, can be really perceived as offensive and we are shrinking it and putting it into a blender (or some restrictive action like that); you're still cool though, no hatin' anyone personally". A year later (when the band itself was already defunct), came the final email like "your video is totally, unapologetically and unashamedly fascist and racist and it's banned in 23 countries: Croatia, Azadistan etc etc... please enjoy your bans you bigots", so here's that.
@@Dizerfullpower another year later and people are talking aboht Pleroma again, 🙄 because of fears about _people getting unbanned, and some of the censorship going away._ Peak absurdity will be something to behold. I can hardly imagine another couple of years.
like anything on the internet I bet it's 50% weebs and 50% feds 0% women
What about gamers?
Yeah, I know what you mean. As Luke says, now I know that it's out there, lols!
Anyway, how does this stuff relate to the 'locals' thing that Dave Rubin keeps telling us about?
@@juillotine
Weebs
the way it should be
@@gothicwestern meet your neighbours - in real life - it's clear that they want you to be afraid of your brother/sister from another mother... 😀
The internet should go back to the old days and balkanize, you can't get censored from your own platform. Federations is excellent because it combines the benefits from everyone being independent but let's everything be interconnected.
@@binaryghosts5131 ssssshhh... just keep it hidden.
@@binaryghosts5131 can't you get around the isp thing with a VPN? The other issues you mentioned seem to be a tendency of large complex structures to centralise.
Orderly dissolution of the social media into its component parts
@@binaryghosts5131 There is registrars like Epik that has Gab, Bitchute and even daily stor**r(Censoring because of the youtube watchdogs) there(There is equivalents to epik for hosts and stuff but I can't recall their names), but if you're getting removed from even there you probably should get away from the clearnet and just host whatever you want on the onion network
Based nekomusume poster. Still gay, OP is.
I was expecting "go to church and network there"
Burning a church may be an alternative solution 😉
@kamel fire furthermore, thereafter you could get wide audience on the internet
church.io
@@stumbling Made me check if the domain was available, but it was taken. Would have been fun to make something to dab on godless bugmen.
You can't go wrong with communion
Future is decentrailised!
We can wish. Sheeple like to be owned and controlled in exchange for convenience and lack of thought. Gab will likely be the new Twitter.
I think you really overestimate normies if you think they will actually abandon familiar, easy-to-use platforms, in favour of some scary decentralized computer magic.
Wake me up when we are in that "future" again.
Future is quiet unless discussion is needed. Remember the original intent for the net, it wasn't for people to crowd it with their mundane everyday bullshit. Make opinions? Go ahead, but having idiots that only post food pics is a plague.
@Мстислав Многогрішний
Yeah, I know. It sucks what passes for a computer user nowadays. That's why we have so many security breaches too, we make shit too simple to use so idiots with bad opsec use it and compromise the entire network. I had to make up for a week of data lost cause our small enterprise boss decided to connect our internal network to the internet and watch porn. I get it that we need the idiots as support mass, but they are just degrading program quality in both security and size for everyone.
I really like the 'old-stlye' meme-slideshow format.
@@IvanIvanov-nn9os LOL
@@IvanIvanov-nn9os lol xD
@@IvanIvanov-nn9os XD LMAO
@@Subzearo "#metoo"
@@axalius572 My guy probably got canceled lol. He really deleted that comment.
You have a talent for creating hilarious thumbnails.
That's why he's the best content creator out there
Him and mental outlaw, the only ones worth watching.
It’s an art!
Hi Samurai
I'm liking this direction for the channel
It's amazing that you have to essentially buy a linux phone (or jump through de-googling hoops), and completely tear out your social media ecosystem just to not be 1984-esque watched or manipulated.
I feel like I'm trending towards just emulating early 2000s computing. Lightweight linux, RSS, a static personal site/blog, and niche web forums.
Will I really lose anything? Memes, probably.
You might want to give IPFS a shot for your static website.
HTMLy is a nice flat-file blogging platform that uses Markdown and is written in PHP. There's a demo at demo.htmly.com and my (mostly unused) blog is at stephenvk.xyz/linuxboss/
@@chelonianegghead274 thanks for sharing! I was looking for something like that
Linux is already a huge piece of the surveillance grid. Though not entirely representative of the software aspect of 'Linux' as a whole, the Linux Foundation is working on smartphone-based vaccine contact tracing. Look up CommonPass. The Linux Foundation is working on that. Linux will not save us from surveillance; it will ultimately deliver us into it.
The power of linux is in the licensing and it being FOSS. If you don't like it, fork it.
Me and a lot of others wouldn't mind switching to BSD/any other Unix-like when the need arises.
Like he's said in the past,
GET YOUR OWN WEBSITE!
Matrix looks really promising too. Looking into starting my own server in the next few months for friends and family. Genuinely though, the best solution imo is to reduce the role of social media in your life in so far as possible. Federation is great, but it's ultimately a cope.
True but nowadays even if you spend less time on social media, censorship is still heavy especially on things like co\/1d \/açç1ñ3, free energy devices or alternative cancer cure
Not recommending Mastodon was a power move
They don't want me to send baste people to their instances anyway
What is wrong with mastodon? I genuinely curious.
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@@Beny9512 very unbased www.vice.com/en/article/mb8y3x/the-nazi-free-alternative-to-twitter-is-now-home-to-the-biggest-far-right-social-network
@@Beny9512 its full of extreme left wing from my experience, except for Gab. Gab is right-extreme right.
Federation! Let the techno anarchy begin ❤️
Luke’s so eternally BASED.
@PIRACY BRUH a true story
Xdxd... I really sometimes don't get whether u guys are joking or not
@Aneesh Prasobhan are you already debooonkig if Luke is based? xDDD
@@sykocode1616 Does it matter?
Sometimes he is, not eternally though
"Git off yer phone thingamajigs and go outside, ya buncha zoomers."
- Old Man Teddy
No boomer! 😂
I agree with the federalization model but not with using it to sustain the dopamine-upboat technopsychosis inducing 'social media' format. ideally this would be used to create federalized niche forums, simplified web page hosting like geocities etc, bringing back the internet as an idea system instead of a hyperreal dopamine farm. the censorship issue is secondary to this. who gives a shit about freedom of speech on communication platforms if those platforms are still used to create dopamine-driven identity complex machines out of human beings?
Thanks for putting this together Luke! Great Vid. I think great timing as well. I'm not a Web Peasant thanks to one of your videos. Hope all these providers stay free.
Turn off the computer. Go outside. But the decentralized thing is cool too.
bruh, outside sucks. Buncha sticks, wasps and fat thotties. Inside is the way to go lo
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Hey thanks! Plemora sounds really cool. Gonna check it out. Thanks for the content
The problem is indexing and discovery
@@sadface7457 The problem is people making excuses
I just heard your talk millenial woes right now
@@LukeSmithxyz People have been trying to make a new internet for years. If people dont understands the problem it is doomed to fail. Enjoy an irrelavent project.
The real underlying problem is people trying to link their online with offline identities. The two identities should be kept completely separated in every perspective, from using an anon email and screen names to sign up(and no phone numbers. jeebus people just fkken no...) to keeping all faces out of uploaded pictures(don't be tagging people like an ahole either.) Don't install social apps that require permission to see your contacts, and avoid associating your accounts with people who do.
Hell yea i asked for a video like this on mental outlaws channel. Good job Luke
Luke Smith proposes the Final Solution to the Big Tech Question.
Endlösung der Social-Mediafrage.
My grandfather’s fought on foreign soil , But this federation stuff is just too hard
@@aldoushuxley5953 Low IQ take.
@@aldoushuxley5953 Muh Nartzeees
The success of social media only shows how much people decide based on emotions. Yes, social networks are nicer to connect to people you know. But the old-school web forums were far superior for actual facts and discussion because they were practically free of spam thanks to moderators, filled with people sharing at least one common interest and more focused on content quality than endless scrolling, prefiltered feeds of shit. And most were run by a few dedicated people who just wanted to build a nice community, and not a multi-billion corporation that you can't effectively sue without tens of millions to spare.
Web forums have always been a terrible substitute for USENET and newsgroups which allowed users to collectively moderate content. After Google bought USENET it went downhill with the shift to a web interface.
Luke, thank you so much for this! I did not know about any of these things.
Greetings from Serbia.
What I don't like is that some of them are so similar to social media, and so have some of the problems like upcummies
I'm just very glad e-mail is federated
Social media is more of a existential societal threat then ai.
No.
RUclips comments are a form of social media.
@@fredericktarr8266 Its like a message board.
missed opportunity to refer to the solution as the final one
You'll have to make those jokes on the Fediverse.
Thanks for the lolli Pleroma instance recommendation luke!
My solutions is to not bother with those networks at all. Still on RUclips, but am playing around with decentralized alternatives. Federation is the way to go, but it's going to take a long time before it catches on.
It’s not gonna catch on until it’s just an app, and the current social media is so draconian you get banned for saying something as innocuous as “McDonald’s/Microsoft/(TV Series)/politician X sucks.”
No matter how good you make the social media, it is still social media
Luke, I respect and appreciate your afford. Thank you. Respect from Turkey.
Thank you master for giving me more content to consoooom
If theres gonna be less arch users on those socials then im in. For now its just dilate posting.
I still believe the way to fix social media is just to quit them. You made a good point on the upcummies video, this just feels like a step back: again, the problem with social media lies within the concept, not the implementation -- and if you care about censorship, then even in "federated" networks, people will just start censoring themselves
2021: Make the Internet Unmanageable Again (in the good way)
God I love this channel
By the way Luke, was this video made by ffmpeg and imagemagick as well?
Yes. I did a video on the particular script a bit ago: ruclips.net/video/4wM2VzubQoM/видео.html
@@LukeSmithxyz Thanks for the answer. I have watched that video a while back and this video looked like it had the same format as the one you used it on before.
I personally didn't use those tools previously but I did find other uses for them.
Also, nice memes.
This is by far your best video. Thank you!
Even though I don't really like orange daddy, decentralized social media does sound super cool
The final solution to the social media question
It's always the same problem: Nobody will switch whatsapp for telegram, signal or whatever. The same goes for RUclips/Vimeo and etc. The userbase is pleased with the normal, the standard. Nobody will stop using the standard ones to use 1001 alternatives out there.
My issue I had with new platforms is the fringe that mainly flocked to them and mainly only able to interact with them which over time drains and disenfranchises you. Perhaps now with all the people flocking they would all stand a better chance at retaining sane people. I ended up deleting most of my alternative stuff but the new blood might be what saves them. So hopeful. So much hype.
2:45 of course neckbeard.xyz is the best example lol
My instance is too powerful!
@@your_new_sjw_waifu OwO the CEO himself!
@@hermannpaschulke1583 I cannot properly reply to this because I don't have access to all the Neckbeard.xyz emojis.
The Internet itself is already the greatest federated social network, each website/service is its own node
Until Amazon or Google or Microsoft refuse to host your website or service. ISPs have to start allowing people to host their own servers at home (or their cabin in the woods) without port blocking or other measures to stop in-home servers being accessible via the Internet.
@@0x007A Yep that's a really good point, the concept of ISPs is kinda messed up from the start
The fediverse is still web 2.0, it's a great concept and would've been nice if it had grown a few years back, now I think the alternative will be even more decentralised with p2p protocols, blockchains, IPFS, webtorrent, that sort of stuff, at this point the fediverse is a half measure.
I got about a minute into your silent slideshow before I noticed I was muted.
you speak out of my soul!
True, but too many of this networks have a bad landing page. When you go on RUclips you see all this videos, but when you go on many of this federated networks, you only see a wall of text about how awesome it is and you are confused.
Most of the centralized social networks allow you to consume it for free, but when you want to start to simp you need to login.
A while back I woke up from a dream where the word pleroma was imprinted in my mind... I also had a dream that predicted chainlinks price the next morning, around a time when I was trying to decide whether to invest or not
It is definitely better than Facebook. But one problem could be the following:
If this gets really popular, then big corporates are going to have their servers open to others (within the decentralized solutions), may be providing more "services", and people who does't understand anything are going to choose those servers to host their accounts. Again centralization will happen and those companies will still be in control of the social media.
I feel the need to mention Misskey as another federated Twitter-like social media. I run an instance.
Yeah, in addition to Neckbeard.xyz I also run Skipper's Bin. Misskey doesn't get enough love. Even by me; someone who runs their own Misskey instance.
@@your_new_sjw_waifu based.
10 seconds in and from your tone I can already tell your advice is to stop using social media
i would say thank for getting new people on the fedi luke
Just commenting to promote the video in the RUclips algorithm.
Oh, this is where all my new users come from...
Yep. Had to upgrade Neckbeard.xyz to handle all the new users.
One things awesome with federation, that's you can make our own one ! That's the best thing ever.
Bro just now realized the purpose of bell icon. Users will remember if they subscribed to you or not but bell icon no one cares. I remember I had the bell icon on for you and yet the RSS feed was the one who notified your new video. Social media sucks man
Sorry sweaty thats been debunked you're gonna need to fact check that
Verdict: Mostly false.
@@candy-ass4915 Mostly sweaty.
"It's because he's an Alt-Right science-denier troll"
Luke, Pleroma looks charming. Currently, it is only a bazillionth of the size of Facebook or Twitter. But I predict that will change. In fact, I'll put my money where my mouth is: I'll bet anyone $100 (US) that in 5 years Pleroma will be 1.5 bazillionths of the size of Facebook or Twitter. Seriously, "federated" social media has been tried several times now and has gone nowhere. I don't think it's ever going to be a viable challenger to the Big Boys.
Thanks for the video, very informative outside of the alternatives that are usually given.
I would agree that these platforms are better, but it doesn't fix my biggest issue with social media: the echo chamber effect. I could be wrong, you know far more about it than I do, but I would assume users still end up only seeing content that they want to see. That's great for audience retention, but I believe more people need to be exposed to well thought out content that disagrees with their beliefs. If every few posts there was content with a point of view that I respected, but challenged my beliefs, that would solve many, if not most issues I have with social media.
this is actually a super cool solution, as a weeb, i most check all of those
Reject modernity, embrace Christ!
@@chelonianegghead274 I'm starting to move this way.
Here in Brazil, for example, we're switching the standard post office services for one called Mercado Livre (a kind of amazon from Argentina). And that's only happening coz the post offices here sucks.
So, I'm aware of Mastodon, Misskey, Peertube and some other federated services for a while now.
And as far as I'm aware it's still susceptible to the networking effect, no? The biggest instance, or a consortium of the biggest few, will decide who gets to talk and who doesn't. It's just centralization with extra steps. Sadly.
Since no instance is forced to federate with each and every instance, meaning instance A can block instance B. So no messages from instance B will be shown in the global feed from instance A. I'm not sure if it goes beyond the global feed, e.g. making DMs from B to A impossible as well.
That's at least possible and documented in Mastodon, not exactly sure about others.
And, to be fair, it's a good feature to have. For example to block an instance that is used for spamming with bots.
But let's be realistic it also WILL be used to block opposing opinions. Which might end up fragmenting the network again, into a generally socially acceptable network à la Twitter, and a network of "undesireables" like gab.
I mean, that's exactly what happened after gab moved to using mastodon. It was blocked on pretty much every instance.
And further, most people will likely use the official server listing to find an instance to register with. And the official listing only lists servers adhering to the _Mastodon Server Covenant_, which basically allows to censor anything right-of-center, by having the main requirement being _"actively moderating against racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia"_. And we know that these terms are more stretchable than a condom. "Don't ask people for their pronouns? That's transphobia, and if you instance does nothing against you, we will. Called someone a faggot? Better stop being homophobic or else ...."
Though, that all said. It still might be better than twitter. But maybe also not. I think it could be better, though it might also end up just as bad, or even worse.
Long and possibly incoherent rambling over.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
I know Mastodon, never heard about Pleroma. Thx, I'll check it out.
all of this is the right direction
wow just while following the thought of getting my own website I imagined something just like this. I mean I really don't use social media (exept yt I guess) because I don't need it. But if I needed it I would use federalized platform.
A solution that is... final?
Lol I already made my "boomer talks final solution" comment and then saw yours. Kudos, sir.
Endlösung der Social-Mediafrage.
Love to see doctor Paul in your video
basically it's youtube but creators do not make any money. sounds great!
We come for the info
We stayed for the memes
Most of the pleroma instances I've discovered are full of weebs and Lain-wannabes.
There definitely are some technically neet ways around the problem of corporate censorship, but I'm sceptical of whether that is the direction we want to be pushing. This all comes across to me as someone 50 years ago instructing people on how they might grow their own tobacco.
Instead of finding equivalent ways of polluting our minds and fracturing society, it seems healthier to me to drop all those ways of scratching our social itches and instead make a move into local engagement and socialisation, both for ourselves and in promoting it. Things like going to church, engaging in local politics, in-person volunteering, etc.
I'm not saying computers are bad (for instance, I recall Luke talking about helping his local pastor with streaming their sermons or something). And as sources of learning and inspiration they can be a great tool. But to let them replace healthy socialisation is simply the wrong path.
Future is DECENTRALISED. Decentralised Finance, Decentralised Social Network, and so on. Future is for everyone!
pleroma just kinda sound like discord with private hosting
I haven't used Discord, but do messages share between servers? The federated networks are more like Facebook and Twitter deciding that posts from either site will show up for all of their users, despite being separate sites.
Basically discord server without TOS? Count me in!
alright i gotta hop on this. thanks luke
The Fetaverse? I didn't know Luke was a connoisseur of fine cheeses.
Hey guys, completely unrelated to the current topic. Linux geniuses needed!
I've always used Windows but wanted to install that tiling windows manager that Luke does and get a simpler (but cooler) setup to work with.
I've already tried installing Arch on my laptop, and actually managed to do so by following his most recent tutorial + another one that I found on YT and the Arch wiki. However, when I started it, I could not get online again in order to download my visual environment.
Needless to say that I had to reinstall Windows, which was suboptimal to say the least.
If anyone got any readings or videos showing how to install dwm and suckless software for dummies I would greatly appreciate it.
I wanna use it most to run Matlab and Latex, just for further clarification. Ty guys =)
you have to install the wireless stuff into the system (it comes in thee bootable usb but it wont
install by default on arch)
@@jefe9098 ty. I did that on the second try, but could not last the wireless program with any command line. I know it was my mistake for not knowing, but no amount of googling could help me solving it
@@viniciusoliveirafontes4033 the command line program I use is nmtui
@@jefe9098 might try that next time. Thank you
@@viniciusoliveirafontes4033 watch Ermanno Tech here on RUclips. He does a lot of Arch related videos. And if this is your first time on Linux, I wouldn't recommend using WM just yet, you might wanna check DE such as KDE Plasma because it is much easier. And when you are comfortable with it, you can change to WM after that.
Dissolution of the Internet into its component parts.
I love that meme. btw commies saying "its a private company.." meme is referencing the performative outcry of conservatives because all they do is simp for capitalism and the one time it doesn't work in their favor they want it to be a fully nationalized utility.
That’s strange because most conservatives have never really been against regulation of things that control society. The conservative’s dislike for regulation is usually focused on improving the economy and trying to prevent bureaucracy.
My worry is that at this point the actual service providers will start throttling/blocking traffic from federalized services, so your own VPS or even home server will still not be enough
this is not what people complaining about twitter banning them want (one example) - they just want to have free reign to do what they like on twitter, etc.
Have it all sorted out, no friends no pain
There will never be enough people that switch for these alternatives to be viable
Panquake Is based on crypto also developed by Bill Binney ex NSA director so yeah
A revival of IRC and USENET is necessary to quash the behaviours of the social network services.
The only reason I'm on Facebook is because family members pressured me to open an account, so I set up an account with a false name. Maybe someday they'll be pressing me to join a decentralised social media platform.
No matter how much I would love to see theses technologies to emerge, (and making the evil advocate here) the centralized version also has its benefits. Let's take an extreme case, what happened when some of your data goes viral for weeks. Will you pay for a better network, a better server, or having access to a replication server. Even if some solutions exists in the distributed model to reduce the impact, at some point the system fall appart, in particular when you can't predict the data flows.
everybody need to see this
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
-Orwell
Like it. Thanks for posting the info.
Luke, I think you should look into Urbit. It's a distributed social network built from the ground up as a functional operating system that allows users to locally host their own server on their phone/laptop/whatever.
0:36 a communist would never say that, what?
if u think a commie likes private ownership u dont know what communism is
Just use an image board lol. The Internet is (not) Serious Business.
I think being a software engineer makes the world a whole lot more scary. As a lay man I can only feel the undercurrent of foreboding.
I though you gonna call us back to fidonet and dialup bbs times. But this plerona looks fine too, young boomer.
Oh, I didn't know about ActivityPub
I thought, Mastodon is just it's own thing, and Pleroma sounded just like that.
Give Neckbeard.xyz a try!