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I think the biggest reason why the game is visually a turnoff is lighting. Env light is so bright and makes scene look flat. I hope user can customize the light to some extent. One scene where I find it quite pretty is with the huge pink crystal. Imagine a sunsrise forest room with nice volumetric fog and particles. It would be miles better what is currently shown.
Pause at 6:46. Skilling will be as I suspected, trainable while logged out but will most likely have smaller xp gains. Huge plus for people who have a job and a life.
Nah this one aint it😂 instanced rooms. Already pushed date back literally after released passed. Didnt even tell us ahead of time. Was supposed to release before august ended.
@@LearningCurves123 It's running on an engine that they built themselves. Not sure of the name of it. Graphics probably won't be updated since its supposed to look like a tabletop game. I guess they could be updated but I wouldn't expect anything drastic.
I never played any RS so playing this is a rather exciting prospect for me. And personally I'm digging the visuals as they match the overall vibe the game is seemingly going for.
I thought I heard correctly about MUDs... I played them for YEARS through and past their prime so looking at it from that perspective is actually enticing to me too.
@@Navhkrin Yeah when I can see all 4 walls of an area it makes me feel claustrophobic. Otherwise it looks ok thus far, but mechanics are going to need to be fun even as chill as he wants it.
Its crazy osrs is the only game that I genuinely feel like I owe something (post eoc). That game has never done me wrong and I am going to give this the biggest try.
Thank you for the preview, added to Steam wishlist to keep an eye on it. Might try it out time permitting as I play factory games as well and there are three heavy hitters releasing this year.
This looks pretty unique, which I am happy to try. MMOs suck in the average, so anytime I see something that actually tries to be its own thing - thats exciting.
@6:00 I love that you used Animal Apogee as background song. That's the unofficial Summoning song from RS2 back in the day. I really miss that skill pre-EOC.
Personally i just hope they add additional factions or something in the Future, unless they plan on being like "Destiny 2" where they have had the same 3 BASE classes forever, but added "subclasses" and different things with those subclasses for each of the "base class". but im trying to see the "class/Faction" system as a Runescape player, so i think its going to be more simplier then am thinking forsure
As a RS player that started when RS2 launched; being able to also experience a new Runescape-esque by the Gower brothers has me excited! The moment the Gower brothers left is when RS went downhill with nobody to protect it from greedy investors. It's not just MTX, it's the whole feel of the game. OSRS gets the love it deserves, but all the new updates for RS3 feel like an empty shell. There's tons of content that players were excited for that have been shelved as they can't be asked to do a bit of long term development on the side whilst working on primary updates. It's of no fault to the devs though, many of them love the game, but they're denied the ability to express their love in favor of cash grabs the investors push. I hope Brighter Shores blows up in the coming year to prove the Gowers brother's way of producing a popular MMO
I don't think the visuals look bad... Even the block-style maps are fine, but I do wish they had done a more hybrid system where the z-axis is a little less blocky. I think that would have given the land a more realistic look/feeling despite being broken up into squares otherwise. The animations in the looped footage actually looked really good and made the scenes look fairly vibrant and "alive", so I think the game does still have potential if they nail the more important stuff like quality quests and whatnot.
As far as different factions go, personally, I'd make a main, and then a ironman type of a different faction. Regardless, not super worried about the different syles
I've seen a lot of interest from current RS players and longtime RS players looking to return to a RS-like game. Definitely excited to play the quests. Paul Gower is the narrative designer so you're probably right they'll be S tier. I'll see if it keeps my interest over time, might be something I play on the side alongside OSRS. You might be right that they're just going for more casual small episode releases, which is becoming more common in the industry. Should be fun to play updates alongside the community. I'm optimistic, but I do honestly dislike the graphics (slowly growing on me) and I cringe that autoplay on logout might be included (I guess that combats botting).
The more I learn about this game, the more excited I am for it. Day 1 on a new mmo or expansion is unmatched, I quite like the idea of early access on this one as it won't be too overwhelming and you can progress very steadily. When the game is done, it'll be nice to just pick what you want to do though
Im really conflicted on this one. The classes look horrible but I really like that they dont punish afk skilling. It doesnt sound like they have a limited skill system either, so i dont really see why you would not just level everything, but then how does anything have value if everyone can do everything? If maxing the skills is easier than runescape then there is no limiter that gives value to what you are gathering/making. Perhaps they have a really well designed consumable and items sink system that is not public, but thats what it would need for these skills to feel meaningful to level for me.
The graphics and art style aren't exactly Throne of Liberty or anything mind blowing, but here for the in depth gameplay - never got the chance to play Runescape so I'm looking forward to trying this.
I like the room design concept. I'll be interested to see if it can hold up to the peak MUDs of old. Peak MUDs were so much more than just W/N/E/S room design/traversal. I'm also very interested in the concept of room growth over time (new rooms added as population increases). I wonder if this will be dynamic (more rooms per region population) vs. static (introducing more rooms as concurrent populations increase over macro time periods). If these two things are done well, I could see myself easily addicted to this type of game. If done bad, I could see this being an AFK nightmare.
I've played runescape since 2006, I am so happy there is finally a game to pull me away from it. I am so hyped for this game, and the fact that it is more 'casual' makes it even more appealing to me. I cannot wait for november!
@@janitor8884 I think almost all of us on WoW side tried for almost 2 decades to find something else but all games just go pay to win or they are too weird like final fantasy (the game feels very clunky to me) . The closest thing for me was Rift and it was sad that it got rekt so hard,I was playing it big time in it's first 2 years. WoW side - we want new games
I play OSRS and first played RuneScape back in 2005. I'm looking forward to trying out this game. This game won't kill OSRS and it can exist alongside it easily. Depending on what you are doing in OSRS and this game you can probably play them both at the same time lol.
I really hope the quests are well written and the skilling is a lot more in-depth. The skilling in runescape can often leave something to be desired, so if they can nail that, I'll be playing this a lot I think.
RuneScape is probably my favorite MMO of all time. But if I wanted to still do point and click I’d go back to RS. I wish they would’ve made this one with WASD in mind.
This will probably be a decent hit for its intended audience but I personally want something more modern looking with more production values. The wait for a genuine competitor to FFXIV and WoW continues.
This just looks like a step back in literally every single way and that's from RuneScape 3. Given most people prefer OSRS I really don't think this is going to appeal to many players of RuneScape overall, certainly not me.
Absolutely going to try it out. Andrew Gower has my full confidence and worst case scenario, we get to try something different and fresh, so what's there to lose?
Throne and Liberty is a maybe. It's already failed in Korea and we just saw what hapoens when a game fails in it's country of origin, with Blue Protocol.
It reminds me of the game Mod Ash was talking about back in the day that Jagex was working on. A game based off of Dungeoneering from RS3. Really looking forward to trying out Brighter Shores. Note: The song you used, Animal Apogee, is by far my favorite soundtrack from RS
the table top games try to make a map like the real world why would a game dev make it like a table top instead of doing what a table top wishes it could do, look and act like a real world.
Most of the time, I can tell if I like an MMORPG before I even play it. In this case, I genuinely have absolutely ZERO clue of what to expect. I'm excited and optimistic, but I'll also gladly continue to just play runescape if it doesn't turn out to be something I enjoy a whole lot.
I'm cautiously optimisitic yet at the same time I do trust that it will be good. Honestly I think that a lot of my concern comes from it just being so radically different from anything else on the market but that will likely be its biggest strength. I'll definitely be playing.
finally a good runescape type for me since runescape itself is hard to play as a new player and only for old nostalgic ppl like any old mmorpg which you return to for memories
I wanted to get into Runescape a few years back but it never grabbed me. granted, I'm not a hardcore MMORPG gamer to begin with, the most I've played in any sort of MMO type games are either Destiny 2 or Stalcraft. but with this game's design being inspired by DnD, I might get easily hooked into it. I'm looking forward to this game.
I can’t wait to introduce this to my 5 year old and 9 year old and go on adventures together! Looks like an excellent opportunity to start something new together.
At first glance.... Them keeping the tile and point/click system is infuriating. They could make this game feel so much more immersive. As a huge fan of OSRS this video actually made me sad.
It might not be the target to compete with OSRS/RS3. But you can do 1+1 and know this will compete with OSRS anyhow. Gamestyle is pretty much the same and if U like point n click MMO there isnt much else then OSRS/RS3 at this time. So it automatically will compete. For now it feels like Shores is a more casual based game, so it might bring in the most skillers and casual players but the hardcore gamers of OSRS in PVM and PVP will most likely stay with OSRS/RS3.
Multiple characters/alt system is actually a huge deterrent for me. I don’t see why modern games can’t be designed not to have the player experience what they have already experienced yet once again. Probably will not play it because of that to be honest
It doesn't seem to be needed imo. As long as we aren't limited to a number of professions per character, then one class should suffice. Limiting professions would require alts, though, so I hope that doesn't happen, because I would agree with you on that and not play.
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nah
How often do you play this Lazy Peon?
I mean these devs have just used this one wavy animation to animate their static images, it looks so wonky, there's no polish or love put into this.
welcome to Room Scape!
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The comment of the year hahahha 😂
Video actually starts at 02:00 YW
TY! 😂
Looks like dungeoneering but its the entire game
Yeah it definitely does lol
you just summed up my thoughts better than i ever could
THIS
Hope doesn't play like dungoneering
@@xirogs why tho? dung is literally the best minigame the game has ever seen, (pre-eoc)
I think the biggest reason why the game is visually a turnoff is lighting.
Env light is so bright and makes scene look flat. I hope user can customize the light to some extent.
One scene where I find it quite pretty is with the huge pink crystal.
Imagine a sunsrise forest room with nice volumetric fog and particles. It would be miles better what is currently shown.
agreed, the lightning needs some work. eveything has the same amount of light on it and there is hardly any shadows
@@Khaelos84 Almost feels flat shaded to be honest. Yeah, with good lighting this game can look 10x better
Totally agreed. This game would be a perfect candidate for ray tracing without breaking performance
I like how it looks.
At first I thought the title was sort of like, "chin up long-suffering MMO fans, there are brighter shores ahead"
It is though :p
Pause at 6:46. Skilling will be as I suspected, trainable while logged out but will most likely have smaller xp gains. Huge plus for people who have a job and a life.
The Runescape music in the background is sending me through a nostalgia trip. I'm looking forward to this game.
Can't wait for this one. Andrew Gower is a legend.
Same, he knows how to make an addictive game, no MTX too so everyone should have the appearance of the gear they're wearing.
Nah this one aint it😂 instanced rooms. Already pushed date back literally after released passed. Didnt even tell us ahead of time. Was supposed to release before august ended.
@@TheLazyPeon What engine is this running on? Can changes be made later to update graphics or will this be one and done type game?
@@LearningCurves123 It's running on an engine that they built themselves. Not sure of the name of it.
Graphics probably won't be updated since its supposed to look like a tabletop game. I guess they could be updated but I wouldn't expect anything drastic.
@@Odyssey636 Name a game that hasn't had a delay lol
I'm excited for any new MMO. No MTX or P2W means an instant purchase for me.
hopefully the game doesn't have bonds. or other such p2w stuff. If it does I won't be playing at all.
I can already see this game becoming a cult classic.
I never played any RS so playing this is a rather exciting prospect for me. And personally I'm digging the visuals as they match the overall vibe the game is seemingly going for.
Brighter Shores is going to be the perfect main monitor game to play RS with on my second monitor.
Heh... as someone who used to play MUDs in the 90s, thinking of the areas like rooms in a MUD is interesting. Thanks Craig.
Perhaps you played the first game made by Andrew Gower back in the day, it was called "Devious MUD"
I thought I heard correctly about MUDs... I played them for YEARS through and past their prime so looking at it from that perspective is actually enticing to me too.
The sections feel a bit claustrophobic and may narrow down the feeling of exploring and adventure, but we'll see maybe it'll be very fun to play.
Cope. That single thing is going to vastly limit the popularity of this game.
Yeah I'm already turned off by the small instanced areas. Gower is usually great but he's missed the mark here.
@@XistenceX1 Instanced areas need to be at least 10x bigger. They overdid it, hopefully not too difficult to fix
@@Navhkrin Yeah when I can see all 4 walls of an area it makes me feel claustrophobic. Otherwise it looks ok thus far, but mechanics are going to need to be fun even as chill as he wants it.
So instead of thinking “what’s outside the room I’m in” you’re thinking “I’m stuck”
I like how the visuals look -- very nostalgic.
Release date is November 5th
It's golden as long as I can fish ingame.
Its crazy osrs is the only game that I genuinely feel like I owe something (post eoc). That game has never done me wrong and I am going to give this the biggest try.
Thank you for the preview, added to Steam wishlist to keep an eye on it. Might try it out time permitting as I play factory games as well and there are three heavy hitters releasing this year.
Satisfactory! I hope brighter shores will release at a later date than sept 10 because I know what I will be playing then.
I can't wait for this. I love how they did the maps. Like Dofus with real time combat instead for turn based
This looks pretty unique, which I am happy to try. MMOs suck in the average, so anytime I see something that actually tries to be its own thing - thats exciting.
finally a good video of someone looking into this game. andrew gower sucked me into a 20 year game addiction once, i trust that he can do it again
@6:00 I love that you used Animal Apogee as background song. That's the unofficial Summoning song from RS2 back in the day. I really miss that skill pre-EOC.
Personally I absolutely LOVE the graphics that's what first caught my eye earlier this year when i first heard about it...
I am thirstyyyyyyy for this game. He can say this isnt a rs clown all he wants, but im hype we getting rs 2.0 haha
Personally i just hope they add additional factions or something in the Future, unless they plan on being like "Destiny 2" where they have had the same 3 BASE classes forever, but added "subclasses" and different things with those subclasses for each of the "base class".
but im trying to see the "class/Faction" system as a Runescape player, so i think its going to be more simplier then am thinking forsure
If the quests are as deep as runescapes and not your usual rpg fetch quests, i'll play it, thats all i need in a new MMO right now
As a RS player that started when RS2 launched; being able to also experience a new Runescape-esque by the Gower brothers has me excited! The moment the Gower brothers left is when RS went downhill with nobody to protect it from greedy investors. It's not just MTX, it's the whole feel of the game. OSRS gets the love it deserves, but all the new updates for RS3 feel like an empty shell. There's tons of content that players were excited for that have been shelved as they can't be asked to do a bit of long term development on the side whilst working on primary updates. It's of no fault to the devs though, many of them love the game, but they're denied the ability to express their love in favor of cash grabs the investors push. I hope Brighter Shores blows up in the coming year to prove the Gowers brother's way of producing a popular MMO
I don't think the visuals look bad... Even the block-style maps are fine, but I do wish they had done a more hybrid system where the z-axis is a little less blocky. I think that would have given the land a more realistic look/feeling despite being broken up into squares otherwise. The animations in the looped footage actually looked really good and made the scenes look fairly vibrant and "alive", so I think the game does still have potential if they nail the more important stuff like quality quests and whatnot.
He said Nov. 5th will be EA open to everyone and progress will not be reset on full release. Full release will be when they add PvP. Just fyi.
As far as different factions go, personally, I'd make a main, and then a ironman type of a different faction. Regardless, not super worried about the different syles
video starts 2:02
I've seen a lot of interest from current RS players and longtime RS players looking to return to a RS-like game.
Definitely excited to play the quests. Paul Gower is the narrative designer so you're probably right they'll be S tier. I'll see if it keeps my interest over time, might be something I play on the side alongside OSRS. You might be right that they're just going for more casual small episode releases, which is becoming more common in the industry. Should be fun to play updates alongside the community.
I'm optimistic, but I do honestly dislike the graphics (slowly growing on me) and I cringe that autoplay on logout might be included (I guess that combats botting).
The more I learn about this game, the more excited I am for it. Day 1 on a new mmo or expansion is unmatched, I quite like the idea of early access on this one as it won't be too overwhelming and you can progress very steadily. When the game is done, it'll be nice to just pick what you want to do though
Im really conflicted on this one. The classes look horrible but I really like that they dont punish afk skilling. It doesnt sound like they have a limited skill system either, so i dont really see why you would not just level everything, but then how does anything have value if everyone can do everything? If maxing the skills is easier than runescape then there is no limiter that gives value to what you are gathering/making. Perhaps they have a really well designed consumable and items sink system that is not public, but thats what it would need for these skills to feel meaningful to level for me.
Originally I wasn't impressed when this was revealed, but now I'm pretty sure I'm going to play it.
don't tell MrBeast you can play as a miner in this game
The graphics and art style aren't exactly Throne of Liberty or anything mind blowing, but here for the in depth gameplay - never got the chance to play Runescape so I'm looking forward to trying this.
Really looking forward to the soundtrack of this. RuneScape has the best original sounds track in any mmo
Unfortunately the guy behind all the nostalgic songs got arrested for being a pdfile
@@Psullins1984wow wtf
I like the room design concept. I'll be interested to see if it can hold up to the peak MUDs of old. Peak MUDs were so much more than just W/N/E/S room design/traversal. I'm also very interested in the concept of room growth over time (new rooms added as population increases). I wonder if this will be dynamic (more rooms per region population) vs. static (introducing more rooms as concurrent populations increase over macro time periods). If these two things are done well, I could see myself easily addicted to this type of game. If done bad, I could see this being an AFK nightmare.
DarthMicrotransaction mentions a November 5 release date. Idk where he got that info though.
It looks good, but lets be honest. Even if this game was 11/10, nostalgia driven people will dump it down so it doesn't destroy their favorite game.
Nostalgia driven lol, you mean bitter wow/runescape players that refuse to ever move on from the games
I've played runescape since 2006, I am so happy there is finally a game to pull me away from it. I am so hyped for this game, and the fact that it is more 'casual' makes it even more appealing to me. I cannot wait for november!
@@janitor8884 I think almost all of us on WoW side tried for almost 2 decades to find something else but all games just go pay to win or they are too weird like final fantasy (the game feels very clunky to me) . The closest thing for me was Rift and it was sad that it got rekt so hard,I was playing it big time in it's first 2 years.
WoW side - we want new games
What does that even MEAN?
I play OSRS and first played RuneScape back in 2005. I'm looking forward to trying out this game. This game won't kill OSRS and it can exist alongside it easily. Depending on what you are doing in OSRS and this game you can probably play them both at the same time lol.
It should be fun, I'll play it for the stories and jokes and then see if it has enough for a long-term play
This game actually looks so fresh and cool can't wait to try it out I'm going with the Guardian class
I really hope the quests are well written and the skilling is a lot more in-depth. The skilling in runescape can often leave something to be desired, so if they can nail that, I'll be playing this a lot I think.
I wish it looked a little cleaner, but I do dig that it's got a decent CRPG-inspired aesthetic
RuneScape is probably my favorite MMO of all time. But if I wanted to still do point and click I’d go back to RS. I wish they would’ve made this one with WASD in mind.
This will probably be a decent hit for its intended audience but I personally want something more modern looking with more production values. The wait for a genuine competitor to FFXIV and WoW continues.
Ashes of Creation, Chrono Odyssey, Archage 2 are the only good looking MMOs coming out in the near future but who knows
Xiv is boring 😴
Corepunk is gonna be the best when it comes out.
I'm intrigued but have learned not to get my hopes up too much. I have yet to find an MMO in recent years that lived up to the hype.
Strong words about your 'trusting the process' with Gower, but I completely get it! Nice vid mate, thanks for sharing!
This just looks like a step back in literally every single way and that's from RuneScape 3. Given most people prefer OSRS I really don't think this is going to appeal to many players of RuneScape overall, certainly not me.
Absolutely going to try it out. Andrew Gower has my full confidence and worst case scenario, we get to try something different and fresh, so what's there to lose?
My man thought he could play Animal Apogee in the back and we wouldn't notice 🔥
What's the music at 05:54 onwards? It's a really nostalgic RS2 track for me that I'm not I've unlocked in OSRS
The name of the track is Animal Apogee, you could unlock it from the Summoning quest IIRC
I'm definitely liking the look of it so far!
I hope they push the tabletop angle, considering how popular D&D is these days.
This channel is irreplaceable for mmo content
I'm super Pumped for this! Thanks for the video!
Throne and Liberty is a maybe. It's already failed in Korea and we just saw what hapoens when a game fails in it's country of origin, with Blue Protocol.
dcuo in 2024 could be a fun one, very curious to see how that games doing.
Release date for early access is November 5th!🎉
The instanced low render areas look absolute shit, I will never be able to get over it.
its like runescape meets baulders gate.
It reminds me of the game Mod Ash was talking about back in the day that Jagex was working on. A game based off of Dungeoneering from RS3. Really looking forward to trying out Brighter Shores.
Note: The song you used, Animal Apogee, is by far my favorite soundtrack from RS
the table top games try to make a map like the real world why would a game dev make it like a table top instead of doing what a table top wishes it could do, look and act like a real world.
It has character imo, a neat little world, not everything has to match ashes of creation's scale
If I can ask for a video, make a video about no man's sky. The new update they brought was insanely amazing.
ill play it just to support andrew
You really should take a look at Stars Reach as well
Most of the time, I can tell if I like an MMORPG before I even play it. In this case, I genuinely have absolutely ZERO clue of what to expect. I'm excited and optimistic, but I'll also gladly continue to just play runescape if it doesn't turn out to be something I enjoy a whole lot.
I'm cautiously optimisitic yet at the same time I do trust that it will be good. Honestly I think that a lot of my concern comes from it just being so radically different from anything else on the market but that will likely be its biggest strength. I'll definitely be playing.
If combat won't be worse than RS, it has a lot of potential.
Excited for anything that even compares to RuneScape. No other mmorpg has come close for me personally.
Starts the video saying it won’t be a RuneScape clone.
Proceeds to say “like RuneScape” 100 times HAHA
I'm definitely going to check it out. I missed out on the Runescape hype, so it will be cool to check out something in a similar vein.
Detective sounds like a fun profession, if it ever gets implemented.
Roomscape.
what that game at 00:11?
Ashes of creation
ashes of creation @@rustakla
Call of azzhowle
I expect that i will deff be trying it out as I grind my slayer to 99
Thanks, this is the best coverage I've seen of the game so far!
Hi, MMO Daddy.
finally a good runescape type for me since runescape itself is hard to play as a new player and only for old nostalgic ppl like any old mmorpg which you return to for memories
I wanted to get into Runescape a few years back but it never grabbed me.
granted, I'm not a hardcore MMORPG gamer to begin with, the most I've played in any sort of MMO type games are either Destiny 2 or Stalcraft.
but with this game's design being inspired by DnD, I might get easily hooked into it.
I'm looking forward to this game.
I can’t wait to introduce this to my 5 year old and 9 year old and go on adventures together! Looks like an excellent opportunity to start something new together.
WTF.
@@rs4cool ??? Honestly not the reply I was expecting
A lot of things about this game sound and look great, but the Map (Visible rigid grids and tiny blocky areas) is a deal breaker for me unfortunately
Watching this video while playing OSRS
So basically Real-time Dofus ?
That could be interesting ^^
Although I've very sceptical about the "afk gameplay" part :/
Yeah even though people draw the obvious RS comparisons, it really makes me think of Dofus or Wakfu with the grid + jobs
At first glance.... Them keeping the tile and point/click system is infuriating. They could make this game feel so much more immersive. As a huge fan of OSRS this video actually made me sad.
It might not be the target to compete with OSRS/RS3. But you can do 1+1 and know this will compete with OSRS anyhow. Gamestyle is pretty much the same and if U like point n click MMO there isnt much else then OSRS/RS3 at this time. So it automatically will compete. For now it feels like Shores is a more casual based game, so it might bring in the most skillers and casual players but the hardcore gamers of OSRS in PVM and PVP will most likely stay with OSRS/RS3.
i'm pretty excited about this game tbh. Looks like a nice chill mmo
Pets, mounts? Or most importantly sailing? The “newest” sailing mmo is BDO but this looks more of a me type game
this game is gonna be amazing
Looks like if the sims and runescape had a baby
I would still be playing Runescape 3 if it didn't turn into microtransaction garbage. I'm super looking forward to this.
Love the AoC burn in the intro.
Multiple characters/alt system is actually a huge deterrent for me. I don’t see why modern games can’t be designed not to have the player experience what they have already experienced yet once again. Probably will not play it because of that to be honest
It doesn't seem to be needed imo. As long as we aren't limited to a number of professions per character, then one class should suffice. Limiting professions would require alts, though, so I hope that doesn't happen, because I would agree with you on that and not play.
Graphics look fruity and nice.
I don't understand how a Sub based MMO still manage to be P2W
you put monkey island on the screen, take my money.
This one actually looks pretty cool I would check this out
Peon’s rent must be due again 😂