Nations of Empire Total War Tier List Military Power

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  • Опубликовано: 1 фев 2025

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  • @christianpettersson9014
    @christianpettersson9014 3 года назад +248

    "lets move on to the European nations, lets start with United States"

    • @richardalex4516
      @richardalex4516 2 года назад +48

      We did Brexit before Britain

    • @BringDHouseDown
      @BringDHouseDown 2 года назад +28

      we were originally European, I know it's unrecognizable now..........sigh......but yes we are fundamentally, our foundation is, and for the moment the majority of our population is European.

    • @therobro5089
      @therobro5089 Год назад +5

      @@BringDHouseDown American culture is not European far from it, maybe like in 1880 or something but even then the American exceptionalism culture was already emerging

    • @Mailed-Knight
      @Mailed-Knight Год назад +8

      @@therobro5089 Nah even in the Victorian Era America was it's own thing.

    • @Ttegegg
      @Ttegegg Год назад +5

      @@Mailed-KnightI mean yea. It’s a country that’s like 4903 miles from Europe.

  • @rik8556
    @rik8556 Год назад +21

    Dutch maritime is too underrated in this game (on financial part) The Fluyt ships should get more money buff stats compared to Indiamen. They had the best trade fleets in the world.

  • @MaSOneTwo
    @MaSOneTwo 2 года назад +51

    I'd say Prussia is hands down the strongest nation in ETW. Best Line Infantry, best Grenadiers, top light infantry, stellar cavalry and all the artillery you can ask for. Prussians shot faster than any others and their morale is higher. They can walk into the first volley, take it, and still turn it around because they shoot their second volley faster than the enemy.

    • @tilco6026
      @tilco6026 2 года назад +3

      Maybe the army but strongest nations ? Im not sure of that

    • @MaSOneTwo
      @MaSOneTwo 2 года назад +13

      @@tilco6026 I am pretty sure of it. Army strength is the single most important factor to determine the power of a nation in ETW and no other nation can touch Prussia in that regard. Line Infantry is the most important unit type and Prussia got the best. Plus, and this Prussia shares with Austria, there are four major cities, Berlin, Dresden, Prague and Vienna, all in less then one turn distance from each other. If you play it right, you can own all four within ten turns. The sheer recruitment capacity alone crushes anybody else. No other nation can pump out stack after stack each single turn.

    • @tilco6026
      @tilco6026 2 года назад

      @@MaSOneTwo you have good argument yes, but i think the strength of the army don't make evrything. France and Britain are better in the game because they have good economy and good start area. But you are right the prussian army is surely the best : best infantry, good cavalry and average Artillery make them the best army of the game

    • @MaSOneTwo
      @MaSOneTwo 2 года назад +7

      @@tilco6026 Britain sure has a good starting location, nobody is safer than them.
      But France, well, they have one province, all of France, if they lose that, they are screwed. Sure the province can become great but it is a liability for sure.

    • @tilco6026
      @tilco6026 2 года назад +1

      @@MaSOneTwo Yes for France that the Bad point, but compared to prussia France have Spain in his allies. Austria is not a real danger for France and Britain are a danger but only on his colony, and the Province of France is one of the best. Great pop. Great incomn, a lot of building to do and a great position for trade, port on mediteranean sea on english channel and Atlantic ocean, for me France is a better choice than prussia.

  • @MaSOneTwo
    @MaSOneTwo 2 года назад +30

    to be honest, I think you are putting a little to much emphasis on the special units that you can get only one of. These really don't make any difference in campaign whatsoever. They are flavour and cool to use but that's about it.

  • @elkingoh4543
    @elkingoh4543 10 месяцев назад +11

    Sabaton fans went playing Empire TW
    -Pick Sweden
    -Find the Livgardet
    -Where the Livgardet?

  • @danielhess1082
    @danielhess1082 Год назад +12

    Of all the Navy's, the United States and Great Britain are the only two that have not only historical ships (the USS Constitution and the HMS Victory respectively) but also have unique lower tier ships, the 24 pound frigate for the US, and the Razzee for Great Britain.
    Spain and the United Provencies both get enhanced merchant ships in Galleons Fluyts, respectively, which can hold their own against lower tier ships of the line.
    Lastly the Maratha Confederacy and the Ottomans have Dows as their merchant ships which are THE worst ship of all and need to be escorted
    The rest of the factions have the exact same navy rosters

  • @vietnguyenhoang5795
    @vietnguyenhoang5795 2 года назад +10

    I love to play as swedes because literally they have the best tactics across the board.It's up to you to replicate it.Danes are quite annoying at sea battles,but I think with the right method,you'll secure the shipyards before they could really do some serious damage

  • @BoDAssassin
    @BoDAssassin 3 года назад +25

    Really wish you could play as the Mughals in vanilla multiplayer.

  • @NotFinnish
    @NotFinnish 3 года назад +24

    Rip to every faction with units they can’t be played. and to Pueblo. don’t sleep on those armed tribesmen!

  • @IceniTotalWar
    @IceniTotalWar 3 года назад +16

    Knights of St John definitely in 1st place that's my prediction!!!

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  3 года назад +9

      Is that a vote of no confidence in Barbary states Lol

    • @IceniTotalWar
      @IceniTotalWar 3 года назад

      @@FaramirsRangers I'm sure they'll be a close 2nd 😁.
      After watching this i want to play as Native American tribes.

    • @gamestosi9260
      @gamestosi9260 2 года назад +2

      @@IceniTotalWar fuck that shit🤣🤣 I've played just a few times as the natives and hated my decision to play as them

    • @IceniTotalWar
      @IceniTotalWar 2 года назад

      @@gamestosi9260 What was the problem with them ? are they bugged/boring/insanely difficult ?
      Never played them in a mod and haven't played them in ETW since the Warpath DLC came out.
      Just finished the Apache in Medieval 2 though.

    • @gamestosi9260
      @gamestosi9260 2 года назад +1

      @@IceniTotalWar they are jus stupidly hard.. I've only really ever played the Cherokee but your troops just can't match up against the European and American troops... I didn't get that far into the game because it pissed me off so that may be why

  • @LORENSSIOK
    @LORENSSIOK 3 года назад +9

    Agree with everything except the marathas. I would put them in militia. They are the same as russians with bad infantry and decent cav. But none of their units have fire by rank...

  • @RickGamer123
    @RickGamer123 3 года назад +8

    I was N0 3 !!!! getting closer.

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  3 года назад +3

      Better than number 2 for sure lol

    • @RickGamer123
      @RickGamer123 3 года назад +1

      @@FaramirsRangers LoL !!!!!!!!!!!!!💩

  • @znxghtmarez2217
    @znxghtmarez2217 3 года назад +7

    Great Britain 38:03
    America 11:12
    Two best factions that you can easily get to if you want to learn about them

  • @Seferboy
    @Seferboy Год назад +4

    Ottomans comes closer to European units with cedits , till then better fight cav, artillery and strong melee units instead of line battles imo

  • @sergeyporivkin4530
    @sergeyporivkin4530 Год назад +2

    Plains Nations and Iroquois Confederacy actually somewhat better than described.
    Plains Nations have a full 80 heavy dragoon squad and it's basically the best in the game in marksmanship. And they also have better "light dragoons" and better meat-shield than basic troops. But the top-tier heavy dragoon squad - the best feature of Plains Nations of course
    Iroquois Confederacy not less interesting - they have the best light dragoon -style squad in the game (but they actually better perform as hybrids). Archers a little worse than Cherokee ones, but for Cherokee it's basically their "top" unit, and for Iroquois - the worst one from all uniques.
    And the last one - melee squad: Winnebago Warriors. They actually have 2 interesting things about them:
    1) They looks like an upgrade to "Medicine Men", but it's actually the best tomahawks-thrower squad from all.
    2) Huron-Wyandot at the top places, and their Petun Wolf Warriors have unique trait "scare". But there's actually a second squad with unique trait - Winnebago Warriors, and trait for them actually a pretty interesting one for Natives: "Can rally routing comrades".
    P.S. Cool video (even if with some questionable moments), thanks for your work!

  • @blakethegreatone2058
    @blakethegreatone2058 3 года назад +10

    I agree with everything outside the placement of maratha confederacy. Should be superior.i also really love the hand mortar units in Russia and ottoman factions. I've had alot of success using them to severely weaken the flanks and allow infantry or cavalry to flank towards the middle. Greatly enjoyed the video.

    • @MorganThorgan
      @MorganThorgan 2 года назад +2

      I was really saddened that they decided Maratha was below the American Native Tribes too, they were given a grave injustice here they should have been superior for sure.

    • @datuputi777
      @datuputi777 2 года назад +4

      @@MorganThorgan Played Aggressively Maratha will carve through America like hot knife through butter native Americans stand 0 chance with melee infantry and heavy cav that shits on most endgame cav Europe can get.
      Europe will bow to maratha before fire by rank even happens.
      Also since millitary tech is not necessary it means research go to navy and enlightenment then industry.
      Before anyone can blink in any difficulty they all lost to good ole hammer and anvil and sieges is no brainer for maratha either if anything it's an advantage with melee superiority.

  • @miniaturelabyrinth7765
    @miniaturelabyrinth7765 2 месяца назад

    Sweden is absurdly strong if used correctly with their cannons, good line infantry and pikemen.

  • @MorganThorgan
    @MorganThorgan 2 года назад +7

    Wait you put Maratha behind the Native American tribes? lol. Im going to guess you have a particularly unique way of playing that doesnt work with Maratha. I have completed world domination with Maratha and let me tell you they rock. At the beginning of the game you get what British has but on steroids. You have entire continent with 1 other faction that matters and they are very weak so taking over the entire of India is fast and efficient meaning you get access to their best units very fast. While I wouldnt put them in Elite section I am pretty saddened that you didnt put them on superior. Maratha can be a world power if you put your mind to it and the fact that you put the Ottomans ahead of them despite Maratha having debatably better troops blows my mind (Their melee troops are better their ranged troops are mostly better and they have elephants), but to see you put the native tribes ahead of Maratha wow... just wow.

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  2 года назад +2

      Hello, Maratha is definitely a fun faction to play and very easy to dominate with in campaign. My ranking was based on full game so this pulls in multiplayer. The fact that Maratha has no units other than camels that can shoot past 70 range in multiplayer is difficult to overcome. Even the native factions have 90 range men. Camels are ok at best and that you only have 45 and easy targets to shoot down.

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  2 года назад +2

      Also Maratha doesn’t have the selection of troops that compare to the ottoman which have elite rank fire units. In campaign every nation can be dominant even using some of their weaker units. I have taken entire world with militia only units. Maratha units have a fun play style that is very nice to play vs ai in campaign.

    • @Joker-yw9hl
      @Joker-yw9hl 2 года назад

      @@FaramirsRangers yeah I'm a Maratha fan but honestly haven't even played multiplayer matches online. Can understand your logic especially as I presume you're also more experienced and knowledgeable on the game than me. You gotta show Maratha some love though baby. But I think their line infantry not getting fire by rank probably seals their fate. I like that they have decent infantry for the price though. European line infantry is so expensive in comparison to even Sikh Musks. Maratha having elephants is pretty cool too. For me (with no multi experience) I would have thought Maratha would at least be on par with Ottomans and better than all American natives? Is extra range on ranged cav really that important online??

  • @landphil7436
    @landphil7436 3 года назад +4

    Aren't the cairo jassinaries unlimited recruitment (i.e, not limited to 1)? Also great tier list!

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  3 года назад +3

      Thanks Phil! Yeah sadly just one Cairo janissary

    • @burakhanacar46
      @burakhanacar46 3 года назад +4

      @@FaramirsRangers no fara cairo janissaries are unlimited recruitment but only in cairo.

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  3 года назад +1

      @@burakhanacar46 really I thought it was limit to one lol well that is good

    • @thatdamnkapi6541
      @thatdamnkapi6541 3 года назад +3

      @@FaramirsRangers They can only be recruited from one location only but is spammable. Can't say same thing for the Mehrens. Although, you can literary just steam roll the entire Ottoman campaign with just Ceemat Jannies in early game power.

  • @johnhernandez284
    @johnhernandez284 6 месяцев назад +1

    You can't put the Hurons over Spain, honestly Spain was easiest to play as for me. And the Irish Brigade was actually pretty effective.

  • @josiah3088
    @josiah3088 Год назад +2

    I don't agree about France. You failed to mention their amazing artillery. They have Guard Artillery that is better accuracy and reloading than any other nation.

  • @marceror
    @marceror 2 года назад

    Nice tier list. DId the other tier lists get made? I'm searching but don't see the economic, geographic or overall faction tier lists that were called out in this video.

  • @AxelGunnars
    @AxelGunnars Год назад +2

    How come you don’t spend a word on the Pikemen😮?

  • @CFYP_C4YNGPPl
    @CFYP_C4YNGPPl Год назад

    Just so cool to watch your Videos man. I really enjoy them. To me the native American Fractions in the game are the absolute coolest looking. Could you beat them with any other European nation....... Probably. Will any European nation be as cool as them? NO

  • @sirfanatical8763
    @sirfanatical8763 Год назад +3

    Do you have something similar for Napoleon TW? If so please give me a link.

  • @Ginnpis
    @Ginnpis 3 года назад +1

    Do you play vanilla, or with mods
    ex. darthmod?

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  3 года назад +5

      Although I have played mods in past I mostly play vanilla now as there is many things about the mods that I feel hurt the gameplay

    • @Deathelement53
      @Deathelement53 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@FaramirsRangers darthmod has to be the most overrated mod of all time

  • @pvblivscornelivsscipio
    @pvblivscornelivsscipio 2 года назад

    Are grenadiers even worth it in vanilla Empire? From my experience they're just less efficient line infantry just like in Napoleon and their melee isn't impactful enough to use them as a shock troop compared to using cavalry. Also, compared to shock infantry of other TW games like nodachi samurai in Shogun 2, falxmen in Rome 2 or Hetaireia guard in Attila they just lack that sheer killing power. In my experience it's just better to use either cav if you want a hammer for your line infantry anvil.

    • @brainfogp
      @brainfogp 2 года назад +2

      It is fun to see it explode

    • @pvblivscornelivsscipio
      @pvblivscornelivsscipio 2 года назад

      @@brainfogp Fair enough

    • @swamplife3148
      @swamplife3148 2 года назад +1

      Use them defensively behind line infantry when the opponent tries to push through your line, toggle grenades.

  • @lars9925
    @lars9925 2 года назад +2

    This is only about unit roster...

  • @stever4128
    @stever4128 Год назад

    I love marathas, I think they are lacking in firepower because their melee is o.p.

  • @sub7se7en
    @sub7se7en Год назад

    Can you make one of these for darth mod? I dont know about anyone else, but i never play vanilla

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  Год назад

      I don't really play darthmod. I actually tried it again for the first time in years this weekend and quickly realized how much I hat the mod. It broke too much for me to enjoy they make it too easy

    • @sub7se7en
      @sub7se7en Год назад

      @@FaramirsRangers Did they? How so?

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  Год назад

      well first off like all mods it does not improve the ai at all as no mod can improve it, so with the moral system being reworked the ai stands no chance in battle against a mid level skilled player. The artillery dishes out way too much damage in the game way too overpowered. I have made a rule for myself to not ever use art in darthmod because of it. When you defeat the ai's cav which will happen at the start of the battle it will give you no issue to mass route the entire ai army rather quickly. The money system has been completely broken by this mod. On the rare occasion I am ever short of cash here comes an ai nation to offer me a big chuck for something like a trade agreement. With all the cash flowing in this game the ai gets tons more (why they give you money without blinking an eye) and they spend it on stack after stack after stack and the late game just becomes fighting army after army. This could be a problem until you realize a few well placed armies of your own to keep them out of your lands and they will just stack up and sometimes attack you while you send an army around and take their capital. Now the vanilla game is no genius to be sure but the of all the hours playing this game I can get more of a challenge out of the base game than any mod I have played. Imperial Destroyer used to be an exception but it has its major issues as well. I guess to sum it up for darthmod for all the good it does with the graphics improvements it makes it all the more frustrating of an experience that it becomes really a boring experience. Trust me with 11,000 hours in this game I have played many hours of several mods. Oh and if you think the minor nations are cool to play as it is for a few turns until you realize that making the minor nations playable the ai just seems to not have any aggression toward you like a regular campaign. Man I wish we could get a better mod for this game lol

  • @teemuvesala9575
    @teemuvesala9575 3 года назад +5

    US navy nothing special? Their ships literally have the 2nd best stats around, only slightly behind Great Britain.

  • @jimcrow582
    @jimcrow582 2 года назад

    In your opinion square formations for line infantry are OP against cavalary?

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  2 года назад +1

      It can be yes but even better is if you have a line behind your front line and you can shoot it off. Bullets kill faster than Melee

  • @frantictoast3741
    @frantictoast3741 2 года назад +1

    Why do you sound so defensive when talking about people giving you crap about pronunciations? Lol I know you laugh about it but you brought it up like 3 times.

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  2 года назад +1

      I like to repeat myself at least that is what my x-wife told me but then I explained my side again and she seemed to understand my side then

  • @thatworksmedia
    @thatworksmedia 2 года назад

    Is it possible to play Empire Campaigns in Mulitplayer?

    • @FaramirsRangers
      @FaramirsRangers  2 года назад +2

      sadly not many can. If you are luck enough to have a key from back in 2009 and have a friend you are indeed lucky. Sadly again the game will desync most of the time and crash. I have never seen anyone complete a campaign past maybe a few turns.

  • @AFVEH
    @AFVEH 2 года назад +4

    You can see this is made by an American; US, UK and Prussia at the top... seems a little biased.

    • @jakeand9020
      @jakeand9020 Год назад +2

      Two things.
      One, the ranking is mostly accurate with maybe a bit too much emphasis on the limited special units. The "bias" is more the makers of the game than this video.
      Second, it seems history shares that bias. UK was unquestionably THE superpower of the time, Prussia was becoming a major power, though it's size limited it's potential as a superpower. US is overpowered to what it should be, most likely specifically because they wanted to appeal to the (mostly ignorant) huge US game market which would pretty much necessitate the American revolution campaign, which in turn would make it necessary to bring them up to UK levels, because there is no way that US audience would accept needing aid from France to win that scenario.

    • @AFVEH
      @AFVEH Год назад +2

      @@jakeand9020 I find Spain the easiest faction to play with. The Galeons in early game allows you to steamroll every nation on the sea and the Irish brigades allows for 4 good frontline units at a low cost. There's other stuff, but I haven't played the game in a minute and I can't recall everything.

    • @douglaspurcell7506
      @douglaspurcell7506 9 месяцев назад +2

      Merica! You sound salty. It's okay. we'll protect you too, if you ask nicely.

    • @AFVEH
      @AFVEH 9 месяцев назад

      @@douglaspurcell7506 Shut up, you guys are a country thanks to Spain and France.

    • @douglaspurcell7506
      @douglaspurcell7506 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@AFVEH hey most people take out a loan to start a business. pretty sure we've payed that back with interest by now though. we run the bank today lol The Arsenal of Democracy

  • @observer23
    @observer23 3 года назад

    35:47 Maratha Confederacy🚩🚩

  • @koseku3
    @koseku3 Год назад +1

    cairo janissaries are infinite

  • @jakeand9020
    @jakeand9020 Год назад

    The Fluyt is "not a great unit?"
    Have you ever actually played the game? It's ridiculously overpowered considering how early you can get it and you can recruit it from trade ports, yet it can still, reliably, go toe to toe with 5th rates. It's also hugely favored by the auto resolve, altogether the exact opposite of "not great." I'd definitely the Fluyt over the galleon any day.

  • @occi31
    @occi31 2 года назад +2

    US above france ok 😂

  • @timandersson8453
    @timandersson8453 2 года назад

    oh my God you need to read up on some history boi