"If U Can't Zero Cycle, Ur Bad"... Well

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @stioorg
    @stioorg  День назад +3

    We are so back !
    what's your opinion on zero cycling ?
    checkout ld shop for cheaper top up ! : chain.ldshop.gg/T4nedKiPN

  • @user-1zUm1
    @user-1zUm1 2 дня назад +31

    "zero cycling" is not end all be all just enjoy the game however you like

  • @sct77
    @sct77 2 дня назад +32

    The worst part about 0 cycle players is the fact that they constantly pretend like the meta in this made up challenge mode is the same meta the real game has. They unironically believe that Seele is better than Firefly and Acheron.

    • @pally3370
      @pally3370 День назад +5

      This is the exact same thing I was talking about in my comment. In regard to 0 cycling, it’s all just AV manipulation and math. Feixiao and Seele are better at AV manipulation than Acheron, Yunli, etc. However many 0 cyclers ignore the strengths an Acheron or Yunli may bring to a casual account, while ignoring the weaknesses of a Seele or Feixiao.
      Fei requires some really good harmony setups and speed tuning in order to function at her highest level, and Seele requires heavy investment in supports in order to 0c properly and proc her resu. Acheron and Yunli don’t have many ways to manipulate AV, but Acheron can free up harmony units you may have used on that side otherwise, and Yunli leads to a comfier experience during fights (I like to call her the 2.x blade).
      The same is true for FF and Boothill. Boothill has more opportunity for AV manipulation through teammates, and as such gets claimed by the majority of 0 cyclers to be better than FF. They blatantly ignore that FF is leagues easier to play than Boothill, and her abilities make building her easier too.
      Like you said before, 0c meta just bleeds into casual meta, and it sucks.

    • @hungnao282
      @hungnao282 День назад +3

      Xolze telos...

  • @Vx_z4
    @Vx_z4 2 дня назад +28

    0 cycle isn't a competition with other ppl it's a competition with yourself
    Because it's not even a score it's just a win or a lose
    But apocalyptic shadow is a score

    • @Cba409
      @Cba409 День назад +2

      There is no such thing as 0 cycle, you have 10 cycles to win. People are apes.

  • @gojiboy69
    @gojiboy69 День назад +4

    You pulled E6S5 Acheron for Zero Cycling
    I pulled E6S5 Acheron because she is my WIFE and Nihilitiddies
    WE ARE NOT THE SAME

  • @ViperXzero50
    @ViperXzero50 2 дня назад +8

    You cant zero cycle unless you know how to negative edge and kara cancel

  • @ShinyHoartoise
    @ShinyHoartoise 2 дня назад +6

    Tbh most people are more concerned on getting their Characters they like and constantly clearing the end game content even if they can't 0 cycle it.

  • @notsawaLuna
    @notsawaLuna 2 дня назад +18

    I think the whole point boils down to: STAY IN YOUR LANE
    If you play the game because the designs intrigue you, or you like the music, story, whichever, sure, do whatever you want. Don't tell a 0-cycler they are wasting their time, we enjoy what we do, and it is for sure not to impress you. It's just like telling someone who enjoys the lore "who even reads the story bruh they just yapping all the time"; like just don't say anything if you're just going to be rude about it.

  • @astreiya
    @astreiya День назад +4

    Totally agree with your pov. I'm not a 0 cycler because my account is not built for that and I don't chase the 0 cycles anyway, although I like to try and cut down cycles for the fun of it - last MOC 12 I cut my clear down to 5 cycles total, which was pretty good for my standards.
    Honestly, if people want to try and solve the puzzle to get to that 0 cycle, it's fun to watch, entertaining and it also gives ideas and motivation when you can't clear yourself. Like "oh wow, this guy's team cleared in 0 cycles. maybe i can try this team and even though i don't 0 cycle it'll be enough to get the last jades I lack". It had happened to me in previous MOCs and it will probably happen again. It's also interesting when people comment on their actions, rotations etc.
    The only problem is when people try to push their view of the game on you. You feel like 0 cycling is a waste of time ? Sure, it's true that the only reward you get is seeing the screen say "30 cycles remaining". You feel like 0 cycling is fun and a nice challenge ? Sure, it really is and it can inspire people. If 0 cycling didn't have any appeal then nobody would chase it. If 0 cycling had a hell lot of appeal then everybody would try to chase it (but it's still a very small minority, albeit loud).
    As long as people know what their goals are and that nobody always has the same goals, why should we care about having different goals ? Just let people have fun. My goal is to have fun while clearing everything in the Simulated Universe expansions and get all the jades I can from the endgame, yet I would never bring down other people because they don't do this too - it's common sense and I wish more people had this insight on the game as well.

  • @anythingsimple1125
    @anythingsimple1125 2 дня назад +6

    My problem w 0 cycleling is with the Way hsr gameplay works.
    The fact that you almost need to built not just two teams with few limited characters.
    No but to actually to do Well and do Well comfy, you need to invest in all characters.
    And then hoyo pushes a new meta and you need to do it all over again.
    The fact that f2p and no pull accounts have a hard time even cleaning the end game is not a good thing.

    • @Pack52022
      @Pack52022 День назад +4

      Best advice i heard is try to get as far as YOU can in moc as a low spender/f2p with your favorite character or team. I bought a battlepass before but i kinda dont plan to spend much anymore just supported a little this game as i like it. Im very much on the relatable path myself hard stuck at moc11 only barely getting two stars

    • @anythingsimple1125
      @anythingsimple1125 День назад

      @ i quit back in 1.x and only returned recently.
      And i’ve found that the game is more difficult than before but im making due except i curently am stuck on the new quests

    • @astreiya
      @astreiya День назад +4

      I'm fully f2p and can clear MOC just fine now. This PF is aids but it's been more than okay otherwise PF has always been a special units check - DOT PF even moreso... Apoc is also an investment check, you really need dpses across all elements there just to be sure.
      But yeah when you're f2p just stick to two team archetypes that work well and stay in that lane. I built three of the archetypes because 1.0 players have had more time to build chars + break is very f2p friendly and I didn't need to get out of my way to build it. Getting chars that are good in multiple endgame helps too.
      Honestly, now I even think about relic sets - if I need to get out of my way to grind for a character's relics it's likely I don't pull for them because I like farming in caverns that can give me even upgrades for older builds.
      Faves are definitely a factor too, I don't pull chars that I don't like, but if I really need them for a shit ton of reasons I might cave in

  • @dante19890
    @dante19890 2 дня назад +5

    0 cycle is pure bait. The real measure is with a sustainer

  • @ryuk6795
    @ryuk6795 День назад +2

    As long as you get full rewards, nothing else matter

  • @dennisengland4770
    @dennisengland4770 21 час назад

    My perspective of 0 cycling is it can be a very satisfying personal goal when you clear it the first time. And you feel that gratification because you did it your way.

  • @yuorion3056
    @yuorion3056 2 дня назад +5

    it feels like a waste if you arent prepared
    i have tons of e0s0 units in my account, only yunli as the acception, nooooo wayyyyy im 0 cycling
    relic luck also a massive factor

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming День назад +1

      E0S0 Feixiao +E0S0 Robin can 0c almost anything, if you have E1 Robin you can 0c anything for at least the next 3 patches.

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming День назад

      Feixiao E0S1 with E1S0 Robin you can reach 5m damage on wave 2 in a 0c, and the current highes HP is 3.3m, so MoC HP can inflate by more 51% and Feixiao will still 0c even blessingless.

    • @yuorion3056
      @yuorion3056 День назад

      @@BailuGaming Idk where those 0 cycles are coming from at e0s0 but it aint from me despite having those units
      Feixiao has around 100/100 crit ratio
      as I said the luck is a huge part of it, havent gotten a better ratio yet

  • @dark37-47
    @dark37-47 2 дня назад +10

    bro finally uploaded after this long

  • @xiao-kn4939
    @xiao-kn4939 День назад +2

    For me 0 cycle is the thing that made the game and the final contant I don't try to get 0 cycle ( sometimes i I try to know my level) but i really enjoy when i watch people try to get 0 cycle soo for me 0 cycle is the main of the end game

  • @notsawaLuna
    @notsawaLuna 2 дня назад +2

    2:23 "I might be lucky with the standard ones" is so real 😭

    • @astreiya
      @astreiya День назад +1

      true and meanwhile some of us are only getting gepard copies

  • @tn1351
    @tn1351 21 час назад +1

    I don't care about zero cycling. As long as I can clear the content with full stars regarding how many cycles it take, that's all that matters to me

  • @irena4929
    @irena4929 2 дня назад +3

    0:44 but can your credit card also get 15 DDD lc when its hasnt been feature in almost a year 😏

  • @YukinoCS
    @YukinoCS День назад +1

    0 cycling is just mathematics and spending money
    if u suck at speed tuning and building ur characters u won't do it
    if u can't get every character with S1 and sometimes E1 u won't do it

  • @galaxygamesmobile
    @galaxygamesmobile День назад +3

    I agree with you exactly, I personally play with 6 accounts😂 and I have all the game characters in addition to some light cones and I did not spend a single cent for them and I am enjoying it too.

    • @Ben-v6z3s
      @Ben-v6z3s День назад +1

      *spits out my drink* I’m sorry did you just say 6 accounts?! You my friend are dedicated and I respect that

    • @galaxygamesmobile
      @galaxygamesmobile День назад

      @Ben-v6z3s Yes I have 6 accounts or more but I use 6 accounts in HSR and I have all the characters, I once sold an account and lost seele and Silver Wolf and I will withdraw for them in their next return.

  • @senelclark101
    @senelclark101 День назад +2

    0 cyclers are fine, they become trash humans when they try to invade other lanes and force their narrative on who is good and bad, and then trash on pull decisions of non-0 cyclers. Shut up and stay on your lane bruh.

  • @shier_it4956
    @shier_it4956 День назад

    if you can zero cycle, fine. If you can't, fine. We just here to play the game.

  • @Frankenstein_
    @Frankenstein_ День назад

    If you are having fun and enjoying yourself then it's NOT a waste of time no clue were everybody get's the notion that just because you or someone else doesn't enjoy something it's a waste of time when someone else does.
    For Example Videogames just because one person doesn't enjoy them doesn't make them a waste of time for everybody else the only way you are wasting time is if you do shit you aren't enjoying or aren't having fun doing.

  • @EzioIV
    @EzioIV День назад +2

    HSR : Gacha Game
    Even the gameplay is also gacha:
    1. get character Gacha
    2. relics Gacha
    3. even the gameplay itsef during 0 cycling Gacha
    all of the people who advocates for hardcore 0 cycling and mocks other playerbase who are not caring for 0 cycling are just insecure pricks who are bullied in real life and got no achievements in real life and hence they take it to the virtual world to attempt to increase their EPEEN size in a game where no skills are required and just gambling addiction.
    if u enjoy 0 cycling thats fine and dandy but when u forced your 0 cycling ideals on other people now that shows who you really are.

  • @harshpandya7834
    @harshpandya7834 2 дня назад +11

    Bro you click like 5 buttons, it's not that serious😂

  • @nonnrr
    @nonnrr День назад

    Personally, as a F2P I simply enjoy the process of trying to 0 cycle MoC and AS. I like to better understand the games I play. However it's perfectly normal that not everyone is willing to invest more time and energy into these things, after all it's completely optional and the only reward you get is satisfaction. Not to mention with HSR being completely stat based, a lot of relic RNG is required to properly build and speed tune your teams. Everyone should just enjoy the game the way they want to.

  • @rizlosamtelaire9271
    @rizlosamtelaire9271 День назад

    0 cycle is waste of time for me when I don't find the combat fun and that atrocious RNG artifact system. Get my jades through auto play and I am out.

  • @leestefan2999
    @leestefan2999 День назад

    I think the problem is that some people are trying to find the reason to validate themselves. I respect people who do zero cycling as a true blue F2P. It's commendable, it's solely their effort, and I'm truly happy for them. But there seems to be a breed of players who are so insecure about themselves that they have to resort to insulting others who do not share the same belief, calling them no skills, losers, what have you, in order to validate themselves, the purpose of their existence. They can be a minority among whales or F2Ps. The feeling of being a cut above the rest makes their blood circulate. Without that, they will asphyxiate. Not just in gachas, it's games in general. To me, they need to seek medical help and need it fast.

  • @crappiefisher1331
    @crappiefisher1331 2 дня назад +3

    "If U Can't Zero Cycle, Ur Bad"
    almost 2 years of HSR and i have never seen anyone making this claim.
    hard skip

    • @sct77
      @sct77 2 дня назад +2

      Bro has never heard of Xolze or Lisara.

    • @crappiefisher1331
      @crappiefisher1331 2 дня назад

      @@sct77 oh no, "bro" does not know nor worship and asskiss every random unimportant youtuber out there.
      i leave that job up for you

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  2 дня назад +4

      have you ever watched a streamer clearing moc and read the chat ?
      i don't think so

    • @crappiefisher1331
      @crappiefisher1331 День назад

      @@stioorg yeah, i am fucking sure your stream chat is made up of 100% 0-cyclers and not your average HSR player who actually gives a fuck about 0 cycle

    • @crappiefisher1331
      @crappiefisher1331 День назад

      @@stioorg yeah i am sure your chats are full of 0-cyclers and not average HSR players.
      but hey the first 13 seconds of your own video says it all already: "there is nobody talking about 0 cycling and there is no drama about 0 cycling"
      only in the chats you hang out and in your video

  • @kennethyoung7457
    @kennethyoung7457 День назад

    In a 0 cycle most of the time it is only possible with characters buffed by turbulence and even than you probably need Dance Dance Dance with perfect speedtuning and hit rng. With how much powercreep is happening these days 0 cycling is only for people who pull new character with eidolons and sig lightcone who want a greater challenge than just clearing since most new characters allow you to easily reach bare minimum scores these days.

  • @Lt_deathgun
    @Lt_deathgun 19 часов назад

    In my opinion true skill only shines in unpredictable situations, everything else can be studied or practiced by everyone in the same way. I'm not saying that there can't be skill to that as well, especially when you are not just following guides and actually learn it yourself, but mastering unpredictable situation is way more skilled based. Although I have to admitt, that luck also plays a role in those senarios.

  • @Ayoubcsw
    @Ayoubcsw День назад +2

    well no gacha game kill your time so bad that why people roll for c1 /c2 and doing 0c is like saying i want to waste my time for noting

  • @abdullatif6715
    @abdullatif6715 2 дня назад +1

    i did it with e0s1 lingsha without a dps in the team
    all without eidolons too (except MC)

  • @berkah8849
    @berkah8849 23 часа назад

    Some of the 0 cycle CC are not even using original server lol

  • @ma.ozawacalayag6179
    @ma.ozawacalayag6179 День назад +1

    does zero cycle have some bonus reward ?

    • @Ben-v6z3s
      @Ben-v6z3s День назад

      No, the concept is just overrated

  • @fadilsaqi
    @fadilsaqi День назад

    don't care as long as I got the needed characters that's enough for me

  • @minami3-so8se
    @minami3-so8se 2 дня назад

    Good to know that I cleared every content in the game except the compat ones because I don't care and will always main jingliu, Robin and march :3

  • @Aeroreido
    @Aeroreido 17 часов назад

    Ahh yes, the chosen one to be destined to 0 cycle in a fully p2w game. All those gems I miss by not 0 cycling? How can I survive this Fomo, ohh wait....

  • @asrar_b
    @asrar_b День назад

    zero cycling dont accomplish anything, most or zero cycling depend on manipulating AV and character speed, having LC/eidolons and abusing the turbulence.
    if people want to actually play and have fun try going for better score/cycle with unusual team or with less popular characters (or maybe old character that as per community got phased out)

  • @crow3769
    @crow3769 2 дня назад

    I don't need 0 cycle, I just wish I didn't need to stress so much to get 3 stars for the current PF.
    Only after I got E0S0 Aventurine and a sig LC for Acheron did i manage to get about 63k score

  • @sekirothegreatshinobi2332
    @sekirothegreatshinobi2332 2 дня назад

    Well, I still need to work building my two Endgame Teams. Like, i'm still on farming the remaining right Pieces for my Firefly, luckily the Strongbox can help out here. And I don't really care if I can 0 Cycle any Floor as so long I get the Rewards. I only payed 30 Euro in this Game, but only for the Characters/Teams I want to start the Endgame Content with. I was even lucky enough to get Acheron's Sig Lightcone 2 times in my 3rd 10 Pull. I'm not kidding. That makes it at least much easier to build her.

  • @A.K.MSamiul
    @A.K.MSamiul 2 дня назад

    0 cycling is also RNG af, its not for me

  • @SadnessMeow
    @SadnessMeow День назад

    I see a smiling Acheron - I click ^^

  • @thesseus1332
    @thesseus1332 День назад

    I don't care about 0 cycle, i just chill, if i 0 cycle cool, if not that's okey. I have only 1 limited eidolon on acheron, i'm kinda f2p i guess, i spend about 280$ to get kafka, blade and his lc on the release, of course i lost 3 times but after that i didn't spend anything so idk i can be consider f2p or not, whatever. The point is i don't have eidolons beside e1 acheron, i did 0 cycle few times but i feel like it's something for the players that actually want to think more about the game. 0 cycling kind off test your game knowledge, same like SU but you will be fine doing 2 cycles anyway. It's some space for the people that wants more from the game

  • @Pachirisu2024
    @Pachirisu2024 2 дня назад

    Build robin and you can 0 cycle with anyone honestly
    Not to mention 0 cycle doesnt gain you anything so why even bother. At this point we will sooner or later need a couple of cycles with the upcoming 4million hp bosses

    • @siege_sensei
      @siege_sensei 2 дня назад

      >4 million hp
      I'm so over this game 😮‍💨

  • @badapkuparkhongsngi
    @badapkuparkhongsngi 2 дня назад

    welcome back it's been 13 days

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  2 дня назад

      we are so back 👌

  • @soorrinee
    @soorrinee День назад

    am i the only one that doesnt play moc/as/pf at all?

  • @ikunimitsu7882
    @ikunimitsu7882 2 дня назад

    why you stop uploading guides bro?

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  2 дня назад

      i stopped uploading everything actually i was so busy and i'm adapting my time with content creation , but we are back ❤️👌

  • @nihilus9000
    @nihilus9000 2 дня назад +1

    Hot take we should have a leaderboards and pvp in hsr

    • @TOTGodofWar
      @TOTGodofWar 2 дня назад +4

      Honkai Impact 3rd will show you that's not a good idea.

    • @itz_chou9452
      @itz_chou9452 2 дня назад +1

      Not a good idea

    • @9Tailsfan
      @9Tailsfan День назад

      Won't work. HSR is a freaking RAM hog! I love it but the game crashes a lot because it uses a lot of RAM. And if the game crashes then players will get disqualified from matches and tournaments . Plus you need a constant Internet connection to play the game. Unlike Pokemon there's no LAN mode where you can play with friends in the same room.

    • @astreiya
      @astreiya День назад

      The game's combat style is not built for PVP I feel. Unless it's in silly events I don't even see how players would be ranked, honestly I'm curious more than anything