ZF Transmission won't shift, ZF Transmission Service, valve body, BMW, Jaguar, Range Rover
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2022
- Welcome back guys. In today's video I will show you the most common problem with ZF Transmission and how to fix it, also how to perform a transmission service with changing the filter and gasket and how to remove the valve body out of the transmission . ZF Transmissions come in a different variety 7, 8 and 9 speed and was fitted in different makes and models BMW, Range Rovers and even jaguars. If you learn something new today, please lets us know and don't forget to Subscribe. Thank you for watching.
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Just a quick tip for anyone doing this at home on their driveway. ALWAYS remove the FILL plug before removing the DRAIN plug and opening up the trans. These fill plugs are in very tight and are very liable to strip out. Last thing you want is to drain the oil, do the job and then not be able to fill it back up and then you cant move the car to take it to a shop to get the plug out.
Should be applicable to all fluid holding reservoirs in a vehicle: Engine, transmission, differential, brake master cylinder, radiator etc. Fill plug released first.
@railtrolley Correct 👌 I was mainly speaking in relation to the video. I'm surmising that anyone watching this video will be wanting to do this to their own trans. In my car (BMW E60) their really isn't much room to get to the fill plug. So if you strip it out, you'll have no chance of getting a drill in their to drill it out so the only other options are to try a T50 bolt extractor or hammer and chisel it out. Failing that, you'll have to drop the trans to drill it out
The fill plug on my X5 seemed to be stuck pretty tight. I could just feel the 8mm internal hex beginning to deform when I bore down on it. I stopped at that point. I invested in a 'special' hex bit set by Wera, and the 8mm in that set gripped that plug much more tightly than a regular hex bit. The fill plug let go with a SNAP! I bought a fill plug with a conventional 17mm external hex drive to replace it with.
@@tempest411 Good idea. Should stop future access problems with the fill plug. On my Falcon, I had to remove the oxygen sensor. Positioned opposite the ZF fill plug. Good acess after removal. Also very tightly done up too. Overtight plug seems intentional by ZF to ensure the plebs don't try to service the transmission themselves.
One of the very best modifications I did to my transmission in my XK8 was to replace the plastic pan to the aluminum pan.
Absolutely much better for dispersing the head
Really great job! Thank you for doing this!
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I got and awesome deal on a 2006 LR3 v6 (U.S.) and have been looking at the Land Rover manual for my vehicle and nothing has lined up. I randomly came across your video trying to verify sensor placements because the Land Rover Manual does not match anything. I contacted Land Rover direct, verified frame, body and engine numbers and was sent the "proper" manual and no luck. The cross member placement on this frame lines up with mine. FYI, I was looking for the Camshaft Position Sensor which is top dead center at the rear of the engine before the bell housing; same as a Range Rover. According to the manual and Land Rover , its accessible on the bottom in a deep recess in the center before the transfer case. The more I dig into this vehicle, I should be looking at a Range Rover manual.
Thank you!!! Outstanding video!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've been replacing these parts in my Jaguar 2004 XJ8 that have only 119k miles and it drives like new as always
Excellent video, thank you.
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Excellent job and video
Awesome thank you so much ❤
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Thank, you for you're video.
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Great video. As a suggestion, you should also do a video on this exact service on a jeep grand cherokee or durango with the 845RE or 850RE trans.
Thank you for watching and I do appreciate your comment and feed back. That’s actually a great idea. I’ve done few of them but never had the chance to recorded. Next one will be recorded for sure. Thanks again.
@@a2zautomasters862 awesome 😁 i just bought a 16 GC with really low miles and I want to do that service sometime soon and would like a guide on the procedure and parts.
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What is that hole forward of the transmission oil pan you took off . Looks like there’s some kind of gasket in it ?
Thanks for the video it helped me I it !
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Nice job! Thank you.. I have an 06 LR3 with a P0501-00 code and the transmission won’t engage. If I undue the battery for a while it will go away. When I start it back up, I can drive it for several yards & then the p0501 pops up & the trans disengages. Does this sound like the, “losing pressure” you were describing? Do you believe this service will fix my issue? I realize the p code points elsewhere & I’ve ordered new speed sensors. I’ve also cleaned the TCU and it looks great.
Did it work?
would like to watch new videos guys made by you (: !!
Soon new videos are coming out, sorry I’ve been busy on few projects. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
A great video of your work but i have a question regarding refilling the fluid. After you refill it and the fluid comes out you reinstall the plug and run the car and cycle through the gears (foot on the brake ) . While the car is still running the temperature of the fluid is supposed to be 40 degrees celsius or 104 degrees fahrenheit and only at that time should the plug be removed and additional fluid be added till it spills out (as per ZF)
Thank you for watching. Yes what you’re saying is true. Thats why the car has to be running and in operating temp at the end of the filling.
Also transmission should be level at the mating surface with pan, not vehicle. In some vehicles(ram 1500) the ZF transmission sits at an angle and rear tires have to be ~9" higher than front to level properly.
Saludos, me podrías decir como puedo liberar el soporte del motor para levantar el motor del carro, tengo un range rover sport 2006, gracias
Quick question have you ever replaced the Solenoids on the valve body? I think that's the fix for the hard shifts .
Would the cracked plastic seal cause a "Trans Failsafe" code on a 2004 BMW X5 4.4L?
Nice, is saw that you have a lot of knowledge about Zf, can you have an opinion about this ,, gear Ratio from 5 to x is not possible " a Zf 8hp70 .. from 1-5 the car works very good.
Did you find the issue to this problem?
Great video, my car range rover 2006. The D automatic drive stuck at 3rd gear, but the standard S is working fine. I can shift all the gear to run the car. If I do not replace the rubber tube as this video, will the standard shift will stop working when the rubber tube getting worst?
In this case you should change those rubber tubes. Thank you for watching
Hi Great videos!! ✌️ I have a BMW X6 with a ZF 6hp28x gearbox I have changed the oil and filters and now when I drive 10 meters backwards or forwards and brake the car stalls as if you release the clutch too quickly. Once it's warm it's over What could that be??? Have you ever experienced this? regards Koen
Great video, what year vehicle was that? Was there a pan cover and heat shield cover?
It was a 2008. There was no cover in this particular vehicle. Thank you for watching and I do appreciate your feed back
Do you have to disconnect battery when doing this service ?
I changed out the Solenoids because one of the forward gears wasn't working, changed the tubes and bridge seal and filter pan too got back together and reverse wasn't working could the wrong fluid level cause that, didn't have a way to measure the temp. any ideas how to check the Solenoid hear a click when shifting? etc. Thanks Great video.
hello did you find out what the problem was
Can some1 pls explain what is the thing with the shifting road ? U need to put him in some position ? Or u leave like it is and dont move it ?
Do you know the part numbers for the four rubber tubes? Thank you!
and for the transmission pan bolts
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Hey, do you happen to know where the output speed shaft sensor is located on ZF transmission? I'm having trouble finding it on my Range Rover Sport.
It’s on the valve body/tcm it’s the solo sensor off the valve body that’s ticks inside the trans and has a magnet
@@jesussavescars807 if the speed shaft sensor is gone completely out what do i have to do can i buy a used one or it has to be new and reprogrammed by land rover?
hi fantastic video i have a Discovery TD5 it has the 4hp _22 auto gearbox the problem iam having is i put it in drive it drives off but wont upshift gears goes in to reverse ok as well any idea what it could be any help appreciated.
I have the same issue have you figured it out yet ?
@@AdamRoberts-yg7dn hi yes fixed it in one hour take the transfer case cover plate off you will see a bolt its about 17 mm it works its way loose just tighten it back up as tight as you can its the shifter sensor bolt its caused 90% of gearbox problems.
Im removing a zf6hp 26 trans from my car . The engine is out already . The bolts at the back connecting to the drivetrain which do i remove ? And is there a shaft that slips out ? I dont wanna break anything . Thanls again
Which zf is this 6 or 8?
Hey my 06 lr3 is displaying transmission fault, traction control. The differential does not work ,it was change, during stop when moving it jump,ie the transmission. Any ideal
You have to get it scanned and get the codes pulled for the right diagnosis
A2Z Auto Masters i have a 1998 xj8 automatic transmission if i take off slow it will shift just fine but if i am entering a freeway and trying to pick up speed i think by the time it hits third gear it just seems to go into neutral so i let off the gas pedal and push back down slowly than it goes through the gears like its suppose to, car only has 42000 miles on it what that might be
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This got to be scanned for codes first
@@a2zautomasters862 Thank you will do
Does the same seal exists for 5HP24 transmission? Thanks
No it’s a different design.
@@a2zautomasters862 Do you mean that the 5HP24 does not have a similar seal or it has a different design seal than the 6HP? I see something similar sold in auto parts stores.
@@FL-fh6ws there’s always a seal between the valve body and the transmission to keep them from leaking and losing pressure it’s just different design from one to one.
What about resetting adaptations on that trans and doing a relearn procedure?
Seems crazy to open everything up and do new fluid at $20/qt if you are not going to replace the 4 tube seals and solenoids (only about $400) at the same time.
In 20K miles, another trans problem will have you opening it all up again and paying for 7qts of oil + new trans pan + labour. This is why these $80K trucks can be had used for $10K.
Buy once, cry once!
Resetting the adaptation won’t solve this problem for sure. It’s case by case, if I feel it needs it or will need it in the near future I change it, we don’t cut corners. If it’s not broken don’t fix it. Btw you don’t have to replace the fluid and pan every time you open the transmission. Thank you
@@a2zautomasters862 I mentioned resetting adaptations after the work you have done. I agree that there is no point in doing it if you haven't changed anything. Those transmissions adapt to conditions, so without resetting adaptations, old values will be stored. Best practice according to ZF and the BMW crowd.
I understand that you dont want to change parts unnecessarily, but for my money, I would do it all whilst in there. Rubber is the same for the bridge seal and the tube seals, so if one has gone, the others wont be far behind. The solenoids are also known to fail, so worth the extra as insurance. Same reason why you dont replace only 1 wheel bearing.
@@any0n378 thank you for the feed back.
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How much in USD should this service cost at an indy shop? At about how many miles on ZF before this should be done?
Hi my transmission is the same kind . It stops shifting after 3rd gear when vehicle gets to normal temperature. Do you think this could solve the problem? It also doesn’t engage to sport mode when shifter is in sport mode
you found the problem?
i have a problem, gearbox not shifting, can you help
My range rover 2004 td6 isnt going in Reverse uphill. Do you think its also the valve body ? All other gears work. But reverse feels like the clutch is slipping
Most likely it’s not a valve body.
@@a2zautomasters862 what do you mean?
@@a2zautomasters862 i am from Austria. It‘s not easy to find someone who can help 🙈
@@a2zautomasters862 do you think it works when i do the same procedure?
@@FxNiTo I don’t think you lost reverse because of a valve body problem. The car has to be checked out but I believe it’s an internal mechanical problem with the transmission.
I have the exact same Range. transmission fault - valve body. Works up to 3rd gear and in reverse.
Do you think this could fix it? And how much can i get charge by local mechanic (estimates) If i were in your area or country i could’ve come to you but I’m in montreal, quebec, canada
Your advise will be appreciated
Usually when that square bushing / seal brake you loose all gears. Seems like you might have an issue with the valve body it self. Sometimes Debri get stock in on of the solenoids inside the valve body. You should definitely try doing it and change all of those seals/ bushings and clean valve body good. I do that service for about $700-800. Thank you for watching.
If you notice the solenoids (blue or Yellow) do fail. If you remove the valve body you can replace them. Kind of spendee but not too bad. I didn't replace the 4 black tubes when I did the solenoids and had hesitation. Ordered the tubes and replaced them and the hesitation went away. ShopLife TV has a good video on how to do the solenoid job.
@@a2zautomasters862 i have 2010 range rover sport with speed sensor unit fault in mechatronics…. what options do you suggest to replace? i only have about 5k to get what needs to be done what do you suggest?
it this the same Trans for my 2006 ranges port Hse
Great video. But the bloody music.
I changed transmision solenoides the oil and I put everything back together but the problem now is the car doesn't start anything can you help me?
Possibly park/ neutral switch issue. Try starting in every gear, and if it doesn't start you can "jump" the starter relay. If it stars when bypassed/jumped it is most likely the $1500 park/neutral switch.
hi did you find out the problem
I did this and still no gear change says P0721 out shaft speed sensor fail
Hey i know you might be busy but how could i contact you?
You can message me on my IG page. Link in description
Just sent you a DM
What about the old contaminated oil in the oil cooler and pipes. It will now mix with the new oil. You should have dissconected the pipes from the gearbox and blew the old oil out with an airline.
We usually just start the car after removing the pan and cycle the transmission to D and R few times while holding the brakes “don’t let the wheels roll” and it will spit more fluids out. I won’t recommend using air line. Compressor pressure can be 90-150psi even more without a regulator
It holds 9 quarts of fluid. Half oz of oil fluid isn’t hurting anything
@@BimmerMafia It could do.
where are you located i need help
Long Island. Garden city NY
@@a2zautomasters862 When I saw all the rusted plates and pipes underneath , I guessed it was in a road-salting part of the world .
@@npet6842 yea we have some pretty rusted cars here in NY. I once had a Toyota Tacoma that the frame broke in half on the lift.
So this is the same on the Bmw 8hp
Yes
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I'm assuming you oil the outer o-ring on the pan you didn't show but some Jackass is bound to comment that's not me lol
Only smokes! I have no clue it's that complicated. I get why is so expensive for labor.
Great video. What is the torque for the fill plug? Workshop manual has a weird ratio with a special tool.