Yea, I respect him very much. Honestly I don't like the system they ask dancers "You win or lose" after the battle. Dancers out there are come for winning the battle, they put their stuff(moves) to each other seriously. So even you ask them you win or not, its really difficult to answer. Who want to say I lose
Paradox like, "I choose Icee. He's like the most difficult to beat, but I wanna see him dance some more lmfao." Paradox is the real face of newstyle imo.
@@Lionelmachtvideos I think if you use anything choreographed, or your movements are not sort-of "pure freestyle", it qualifies as newstyle(let me know if I'm wrong). Though paradox does freestyle a lot, he also uses a lot of moves he's memorized. So idk what to classify him as tbh.
i can´t believe it paradox you´re a true winner for it takes alot for someone to be that humble but we all know that in another battle you´ll come out on top you´re one of the best dancers that I know
To be honest I think Icee is the hardest hip hop dancer to battle against, you really have to be at the top of your game to beat him. That guy is so unpredictable, he's a pure genius when it comes to freestyle.
I see a lot of comments about the end result. Know this, as a dancer you have the most reflection in the moment when you are dancing. You know when you are tired, running out of steps, or you feel like you are being bested. Paradox probably felt that if they went another round he would not have answers to what Icee threw at him, if you look close enough you can see moments where he either repeated things he had already done or used stall steps to absorb his time. Icee didn't do that! Paradox is amazing to make it to the final, no doubt in that, but he knows best what was going on in that ring. If he says he lost, he knows that's the proper call. Otherwise he would have let it go to crowd decision.
Another good video! Both dancers were great! The fact that they were looking like they were having fun makes them both winners in my opinion! Thanks SDF for the upload!
sorry that im late but i recognized the song at 2:30, its Welcome to the Next Level by the Robot Orchestra! great song and bboy Thesis dances to it in a yakfilms vid, on concrete!
Man the whole "did you win or lose" question really confuses a person. Most dancers are in their own bubble with the music while battling so when they get asked that question they have to think really really hard about it. If they really think they got smoked that's another story.
LOVE WATCHING BOTH, THEY BOTH WENT IN BUT I HAVE TO GIVE MAJOR PROPS TO PARADOX MUCH RESPECT I DONT KNOW MANY DANCERS WHO WOULD HAVE SAID HE LOST REAL SHIT
@8:15 - Lamine : "Icee, you win or you loose?" - Icee : (in French) "Errrr if it was freestyle battle, sure I won..." I love Paradox's originality but yeah...too much codes... Icee is PURE freestyler. And that's why he won...for me!
icee is like his moves are too mature to a point where they dont look polished like. paradox moves are polished af. then keftons moves are complete raaaaw. which is why id prefer both of them over icee. hes an experienced dancer dont get me wrong. i just like yeah
waydi vs icee in the end he says he lose , paradox vs icee in the end he say loose. nxt Larry vs icee or Laurent vs icee . this man got bars he earn respect. let's go man
gotta say this (man im like a broken record lol) you see this fucking dance community?? paradox is your last fucking hope if everyone was like him the dance community would have no hypocrits at all, your character wouldnt be so shallow and superficial...... i get the feeling from him that he isnt interested in winning or loosing, he just wants the experience but damm dont sell yourself short paradox, you won this like seriously
I think he felt bad cause after the third round icee said "if it's a freestyle I won" because paradox does practice different variations of his moves and chains them together. Cause he talks and teaches people to do that on his RUclips channel . He uses like 1 or 2 each round. But I think he won its just icee probably made him feel guilty that's it's not pure freestyle😒
Basically politics, which is like the number one thing I hate about this community. And a freestyle is a freestyle organized or not, Icee gotta get that through his head lol. Dance is an art in any shape or form imo, no rights or wrongs
im rather late. i watched this time ago. with everything where there is a winner and a loser you find "ego" on bruce for me i got nothing from him. dont get me wrong his good just doesnt do it for me like gucchon, nelson, hoan, brooke,acky,pete. on icee his so special cos he sits in the pocket while being sooooo dynamic. his ever evolving as well. icee of 2012 is completely different to now. his one of the most dynamic dancers in hip hop ive ever seen. the young kats are not as dynamics and my man is in his 30's and getting better. this may be to him being so light footed. last years battle waydi vs icee was epic as waydi is new skool and real good and icee is considered old skool. they both pushed each other but icee has more levels. He does things which are so unexpected yet musical.
Didn't Icee forfeit the earlier round against Paradox? - now all of sudden he comes back to win the semi-final? ... nahhh man, you can't forfeit battles and still end up winning in the end.
Naw man, Paradox won the Judge Battle against Franky Dee. So he chose a fourth dancer to dance in the semis, who obviously was Icee since he gave up in the earlier round.
The 1st time i saw icee dance (different video)i didn't understand all the hype,but once i focused in and downloaded all intricacies of the way he dances. He's Truly next level.sometimes he's too much for the average eyeballs to digest.i used to do quality control,so pull out your QC eyes & be Amazed!!!
Someone already said it but i'm going to go deeper into this just to give my opinion. Icee is a very good freestyler who has intricate and fluent moves, now, the special thing about him is that he has had the time to let them mature and GROW. On the other hand, Paradox is a young and talented dancer, who is also a really balanced freestyler and has dynamic and very original moves, which are very interesting, but he stills to work more in developing them to make them reach their full potential. For me, that's the difference between the two of them. After all, even though Icee is so good, it's just a matter of time before Paradox has the opportunity to improve and become a better dancer.
I already think Paradox has done just that numerous times, there's this one showcase video of him where he seriously murders a song and if that's not perfecting his style then idk what is lol
It's funny how most of the comment section says that paradox should have won but when you ask them why its just 'because he was better'. But the only reason they want paradox to win is because they know him better. Paradox has a bigger following then Icee so more people going on paradox his side. Its just like all the people who are butt hurt by criminalz crew allready eliminated in the first round, they think criminalz crew has the best dancers. Let me open your mind there are more dancers then: Waydi, les twins, rochka and paradox. Im not saying these dancers are not better then most of the dancers because I absolutely look up to all of them but when a dancer loses to Icee you should be able to understand, Icee is a master in hiphop (so i dont get it why he doesnt have a following like CC or paradox). sorry if I have bad english :p
DARTH MAUL I think that is because icee has a different style like he dances the real hip hop if you look at left on les twins and all those kind of guys they are commercial dancers and they do more stuff that leave the crowd in oooos and aaas
I disagree, I'm a big Les Twins fight, but I think Larry easily beat L'eto just like Paradox easily beat Laurent. In this battle I think it was extremely close and honestly could've been another round. Every round was a tie, but I think Paradox decidedly won the third round, although I think Icee may have edged him out on round 1.
icee respect bro t un demon du hip hop t un geni un extra terestr...paradox t en plein evolution bro,j adoré ck ta fai c du super mai ck icee fai c du paranormal pr l mnde du hip hop...big up a vs deux wait for the next chapter...viv l hip hop
I will never understand this "you win or you loose?" question. What are the judges for then? How can you dance and judge your own battle at the same time? how can you avoid the obvious conflict of interest? This is bullshit.
This is actually a good question. The judges are there for the early battles, i believe they are chosen based on their prior performance in past events. Anyway the reason to judge your own battle. You eliminate the "judges were wrong" mentality because you are that judge. It is the ultimate sign of self awareness to be able to say "i need to go back and practice." In MMA they have the saying "never let it go to the judges" because judges can make a mistake of you just may not agree with their opinion, but if you tap out YOU KNOW YOU LOST! So to judge yourself in a battle is to be honest with yourself and your skill level.
Sometimes I find it hard to respect what Icee does because he (in my humble opinion) doesn't show respect to other dancers during their round. I mean, I get that sometimes you may not feel like the other dancer is doing justice to all the beats/ melodies/ phrases/ feeling in the song or you really just can't help yourself from moving to the music but it comes off as arrogant (to me). I appreciate his contribution to dance and he may just be the coolest dude on the block....idk the guy... but it's just distracting and difficult to watch battles with him.
that's very true about icee.not hating but shit interrupts the battle and music.paradox is crazy since I last saw is him a few years ago as I'm mostly into popping.
because you feel a certain way about something doesnt make what icee does wrong, do a brief reading on the hip hop culture and how dancers interact in battle and you will find what he does is quite normal and not intended to be cocky or disrespectful
icee won this guy's no matter what,both was amazing but if you pay attention to icee,he was killing the beat....I like more paradox than icee but icee won this for sure....
But it's not about "Ego" its about ambition, it's about passion, it's about leaving my all on the floor. If I do this. there's no chance for me giving up by saying "I lost" just because someone asks me repeatedly
It depends on what kind of media you consume, for an example if you learn english by watching american youtubers, you're most likely to learn that way of speaking english as well
Respect for Paradox!! One of the most humble dancers i have ever seen.
Muito diferente de alguns dançarinos gêmeos que todos conhecem bem...
Yea, I respect him very much. Honestly I don't like the system they ask dancers "You win or lose" after the battle. Dancers out there are come for winning the battle, they put their stuff(moves) to each other seriously. So even you ask them you win or not, its really difficult to answer. Who want to say I lose
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Paradox like, "I choose Icee. He's like the most difficult to beat, but I wanna see him dance some more lmfao." Paradox is the real face of newstyle imo.
Hes not a newstyle dancer tho?
@@Lionelmachtvideos I think if you use anything choreographed, or your movements are not sort-of "pure freestyle", it qualifies as newstyle(let me know if I'm wrong). Though paradox does freestyle a lot, he also uses a lot of moves he's memorized. So idk what to classify him as tbh.
@@ridhaacupido534 Paradox said so that his foundation is in old school and that he doesnt like to be labelled as a newstyle dancer
To choose a dancer that gave you the win in one of the previous battles only to say you lost to them. Respect to Paradox.
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paradox is to humble he should have let the crowd decide this could have been the year he won
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@@Key.Fantasy wait he did that 😅
This battle was dope, but I thought Paradox won. Great battle for both
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Lmaoooo "Paradox you win or you lose?" "I did not lose."
Did you hear the guy shout you lose at 8:54 when paradox was explaining if he won or not? Paradox said "you wanna battle right now?" Lmao.
Lmaoooo and at 9:26 he's still trying to look for him
i can´t believe it paradox you´re a true winner for it takes alot for someone to be that humble but we all know that in another battle you´ll come out on top you´re one of the best dancers that I know
To be honest I think Icee is the hardest hip hop dancer to battle against, you really have to be at the top of your game to beat him. That guy is so unpredictable, he's a pure genius when it comes to freestyle.
Exactly haha when you think you're winning he just comes up with more and more and you can't keep up with it hahaha he's a beast
NinjaKiller999 nub
They are my 2 top favs it was hard watching this battle
@@NinjaKiller999 fanboy
True respect to both awesome yet humble dancers
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YOOOO!!! a hip hop battle with actual hip hop music can you believe that?!
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I see a lot of comments about the end result. Know this, as a dancer you have the most reflection in the moment when you are dancing. You know when you are tired, running out of steps, or you feel like you are being bested. Paradox probably felt that if they went another round he would not have answers to what Icee threw at him, if you look close enough you can see moments where he either repeated things he had already done or used stall steps to absorb his time. Icee didn't do that! Paradox is amazing to make it to the final, no doubt in that, but he knows best what was going on in that ring. If he says he lost, he knows that's the proper call.
Otherwise he would have let it go to crowd decision.
Idk, I think Paradox won before the extra round, so that's a bit unfair. He's just a humble dude. He let the crowd get to him.
Icee repeats a lot more moves than paradox…
Another good video! Both dancers were great! The fact that they were looking like they were having fun makes them both winners in my opinion! Thanks SDF for the upload!
Ice-e cleans the floor nicely.
Emad Gholam
_This comment needs so many more likes, lmao. Nigga wiped his sweaty forehead on the floor XD_
Icee pulled a Goku... Took off the extra weight aka hat at went off! Respect to both dancers.
It's like a final!
After watching this i feel like i no nothing about dancing. I been dancong for 7 years also both are beyond amazing
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I'm sure you know plenty. These guys just have different perspectives/approaches lol
Respect for Paradox! He's really grown! Dope battle
sorry that im late but i recognized the song at 2:30, its Welcome to the Next Level by the Robot Orchestra! great song and bboy Thesis dances to it in a yakfilms vid, on concrete!
Man the whole "did you win or lose" question really confuses a person. Most dancers are in their own bubble with the music while battling so when they get asked that question they have to think really really hard about it. If they really think they got smoked that's another story.
LOVE WATCHING BOTH, THEY BOTH WENT IN BUT I HAVE TO GIVE MAJOR PROPS TO PARADOX MUCH RESPECT I DONT KNOW MANY DANCERS WHO WOULD HAVE SAID HE LOST REAL SHIT
I am fan Icee but Paradox was giving him hell
Very humble , RESPECT
@8:15
- Lamine : "Icee, you win or you loose?"
- Icee : (in French) "Errrr if it was freestyle battle, sure I won..."
I love Paradox's originality but yeah...too much codes... Icee is PURE freestyler. And that's why he won...for me!
I dont get it what do you mean to much codes?
By code i mean... prepared move...
Sorry, Eng is not my mother tongue
icee is like his moves are too mature to a point where they dont look polished like. paradox moves are polished af. then keftons moves are complete raaaaw. which is why id prefer both of them over icee. hes an experienced dancer dont get me wrong. i just like yeah
its like hes doin too many moves and not like doing each move as much justice as it deserves
Icee too many moves? Hmm okay it's your point...
waydi vs icee in the end he says he lose , paradox vs icee in the end he say loose. nxt Larry vs icee or Laurent vs icee . this man got bars he earn respect. let's go man
fucka, this was the final
gotta say this (man im like a broken record lol) you see this fucking dance community?? paradox is your last fucking hope
if everyone was like him the dance community would have no hypocrits at all, your character wouldnt be so shallow and superficial......
i get the feeling from him that he isnt interested in winning or loosing, he just wants the experience
but damm dont sell yourself short paradox, you won this like seriously
I think he felt bad cause after the third round icee said "if it's a freestyle I won" because paradox does practice different variations of his moves and chains them together. Cause he talks and teaches people to do that on his RUclips channel . He uses like 1 or 2 each round. But I think he won its just icee probably made him feel guilty that's it's not pure freestyle😒
Basically politics, which is like the number one thing I hate about this community. And a freestyle is a freestyle organized or not, Icee gotta get that through his head lol. Dance is an art in any shape or form imo, no rights or wrongs
Icee didn't say that it's not art. He implied that it's not 100% freestyle.
im rather late. i watched this time ago. with everything where there is a winner and a loser you find "ego"
on bruce for me i got nothing from him. dont get me wrong his good just doesnt do it for me like gucchon, nelson, hoan, brooke,acky,pete.
on icee his so special cos he sits in the pocket while being sooooo dynamic. his ever evolving as well. icee of 2012 is completely different to now. his one of the most dynamic dancers in hip hop ive ever seen. the young kats are not as dynamics and my man is in his 30's and getting better. this may be to him being so light footed.
last years battle waydi vs icee was epic as waydi is new skool and real good and icee is considered old skool. they both pushed each other but icee has more levels. He does things which are so unexpected yet musical.
Honestly Icee's not that unpredictable lol (if you have good eyes)
Didn't Icee forfeit the earlier round against Paradox? - now all of sudden he comes back to win the semi-final? ... nahhh man, you can't forfeit battles and still end up winning in the end.
Naw man, Paradox won the Judge Battle against Franky Dee. So he chose a fourth dancer to dance in the semis, who obviously was Icee since he gave up in the earlier round.
You very obviously can. You witnessed it in the video. (That's if your claim of Icee forfeiting is actually true)
Even tho I feel like Icee lost I think it was a dope battle
Like paradox won 2 out of 3 and lost the 4th, should have been a paradox win no round 4
This battle was littttttt
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last song : top flight - bounced out
la gordita
I can't find it
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all my respect for Paradox. Icee, keep calm, stay still, if it's not your turn dont dance
The level of this battle is sooooooooo insane
The 1st time i saw icee dance (different video)i didn't understand all the hype,but once i focused in and downloaded all intricacies of the way he dances. He's Truly next level.sometimes he's too much for the average eyeballs to digest.i used to do quality control,so pull out your QC eyes & be Amazed!!!
icee was great but dammmn paradox killed it
Great on both sides but honestly icee had more depth
paradox!!! you won !!
They're both great but I think Paradox's moves are more clean and more original
Julia Deschênes its not only about musicality...its about feeling, groove, musicality, FREESTYLE, actitude, technique, etc.
More original - maybe.
Definitely not more clean.
Love Paradox, but Icee took this one. His flow and floor work was insane.
mais pourquoi ta fais ça paradox ,😪😪😪,??,you are the best
Someone already said it but i'm going to go deeper into this just to give my opinion. Icee is a very good freestyler who has intricate and fluent moves, now, the special thing about him is that he has had the time to let them mature and GROW. On the other hand, Paradox is a young and talented dancer, who is also a really balanced freestyler and has dynamic and very original moves, which are very interesting, but he stills to work more in developing them to make them reach their full potential. For me, that's the difference between the two of them. After all, even though Icee is so good, it's just a matter of time before Paradox has the opportunity to improve and become a better dancer.
I already think Paradox has done just that numerous times, there's this one showcase video of him where he seriously murders a song and if that's not perfecting his style then idk what is lol
list of songs please
Track List
1. Slum Village - Jealousy
2. Robot Orchestra - Welcome To The Next Level
3. Dizzee Rascal - Fix Up, Look Sharp
4. Top Flight - Bounced Out
Game of unpredictable 💥❤️ and other one actually so humble Kevin paradox ❤️
any one with full song list
Song 1 plis 🙏
first song name pls!!!!!!!
wow icee
Although Paradox used so many moves.... I think Icee got into the MUSIC more
"HipHop" section you know~ :)
second song is amazing
hip hop style is very variety..
Did you know hip hop can make you cry
for me, paradox/icee/tie/icee just my opinion
SOMEONE PLS SEND ME FULL TRACKLIST
He knew Icee wasnt gonna take no for an answer
Icee I love ❤️ you , can u feel me
Anyone know the name of the first song?
It's funny how most of the comment section says that paradox should have won but when you ask them why its just 'because he was better'. But the only reason they want paradox to win is because they know him better. Paradox has a bigger following then Icee so more people going on paradox his side. Its just like all the people who are butt hurt by criminalz crew allready eliminated in the first round, they think criminalz crew has the best dancers. Let me open your mind there are more dancers then: Waydi, les twins, rochka and paradox. Im not saying these dancers are not better then most of the dancers because I absolutely look up to all of them but when a dancer loses to Icee you should be able to understand, Icee is a master in hiphop (so i dont get it why he doesnt have a following like CC or paradox).
sorry if I have bad english :p
DARTH MAUL EXACTLY. I totally agree with you. Icee is a seasoned vet and I think he understands Hip Hop more than any French dancers.
DARTH MAUL I think that is because icee has a different style like he dances the real hip hop if you look at left on les twins and all those kind of guys they are commercial dancers and they do more stuff that leave the crowd in oooos and aaas
@antonio there's no such thing as "real" hip hop lol hip hop is hip hop, old or new.
Never really watched either but paradox was a lot more fun to watch than icee, I kinda skipped some of the other guys dances cause I lost interest
I disagree, I'm a big Les Twins fight, but I think Larry easily beat L'eto just like Paradox easily beat Laurent. In this battle I think it was extremely close and honestly could've been another round. Every round was a tie, but I think Paradox decidedly won the third round, although I think Icee may have edged him out on round 1.
"If it was a freestyle, I won" - Pretty much every opponent of Larry / Laurent ever.
last song plz.
song 1 pls
the last song , please !
anyone know the first song
sounds like a Q-tip beat
Slum Village - Jealousy
Lost the battle but won the war!
icee respect bro t un demon du hip hop t un geni un extra terestr...paradox t en plein evolution bro,j adoré ck ta fai c du super mai ck icee fai c du paranormal pr l mnde du hip hop...big up a vs deux wait for the next chapter...viv l hip hop
What kind of rule is this?
first song plis?
ICEE!!!!!!! WOW WOW WOW!!
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I will never understand this "you win or you loose?" question. What are the judges for then? How can you dance and judge your own battle at the same time? how can you avoid the obvious conflict of interest? This is bullshit.
This is actually a good question. The judges are there for the early battles, i believe they are chosen based on their prior performance in past events. Anyway the reason to judge your own battle. You eliminate the "judges were wrong" mentality because you are that judge. It is the ultimate sign of self awareness to be able to say "i need to go back and practice." In MMA they have the saying "never let it go to the judges" because judges can make a mistake of you just may not agree with their opinion, but if you tap out YOU KNOW YOU LOST! So to judge yourself in a battle is to be honest with yourself and your skill level.
Blue Sky this is the worst battle place to be, imagine taking 50 friends of yours anf all shouting for u will essily win 😂
@@zai4booc this place is better than world of dance lmao the level of dance here is always high.
can i know whats the song name for last round?
Yo what’s that first track?
icee is the ultimate
Sometimes I find it hard to respect what Icee does because he (in my humble opinion) doesn't show respect to other dancers during their round. I mean, I get that sometimes you may not feel like the other dancer is doing justice to all the beats/ melodies/ phrases/ feeling in the song or you really just can't help yourself from moving to the music but it comes off as arrogant (to me). I appreciate his contribution to dance and he may just be the coolest dude on the block....idk the guy... but it's just distracting and difficult to watch battles with him.
that's very true about icee.not hating but shit interrupts the battle and music.paradox is crazy since I last saw is him a few years ago as I'm mostly into popping.
because you feel a certain way about something doesnt make what icee does wrong, do a brief reading on the hip hop culture and how dancers interact in battle and you will find what he does is quite normal and not intended to be cocky or disrespectful
anyone know some of the songs or if there is a mixtape somewhere?
3rd song Dizzee Rascal - Fix Up, Look Sharp
Thanksss
I think Paradox is the only one that can beat Icee, and Icee knows that himself.
The old school hip hop music in this battle favors Icee. Should have mixed it up more.
that bottle stop
First and second song name please?
icee won this guy's no matter what,both was amazing but if you pay attention to icee,he was killing the beat....I like more paradox than icee but icee won this for sure....
First song's name ?
#respect paradox, i see you on indonesia some day
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Icee got his energy back after 3rd round
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do anybody know the name of the second song??
paradox definitely won the battle, don´t know why,but theres always an icee bonus
tengo que decir algo jjajja pues en un futuro capas cambie estas palabras waao
why do they always ask for the dancers oppinion? Does this has a specific reason or ...? I dunno pls illuminate me
It's the concept of this specific battle
you dont say. BUT WHY?
By the word of the guy that organise the battle : "The dancer gotta put their ego to the side and be real with themselves"
But it's not about "Ego" its about ambition, it's about passion, it's about leaving my all on the floor. If I do this. there's no chance for me giving up by saying "I lost" just because someone asks me repeatedly
+RetroPhil im not saying its right or not im just quoting ;)
even though i love The concept of this event
really hate it when icee interrupts the battle.thats when you know hes getting smoked.
more like he is feeling the vibe and enjoying the moment, icee never got smoked in this battle
ICE E is great, he is the best...
Last song BTW?
anyone know the second song?
Last song please?
0:08 name song???
The finals
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final song?
Icce es todo un maestro lo que no me gusta es que baila en el tiempo del contricante eso me parece falta de respeto
last song name?
Paradox win !
oof at 8:15 Icee went " if its freestyle then yes i won"
He thought paradox might have won If it was not a freestlye battle , but paradox is a freestyle dancer .
4 song ?
5:24 songg??
Jack Trippah
How does Paradox have an American accent, wtf?
It depends on what kind of media you consume, for an example if you learn english by watching american youtubers, you're most likely to learn that way of speaking english as well