133 LBS: #1 Stevan Micic (Michigan) vs. #4 Nick Suriano (Rutgers) | Big Ten Wrestling

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @jimmyhayden5292
    @jimmyhayden5292 5 лет назад +178

    I really liked Suriano's sportsman ship at end. You couldn't tell if he won or lost.

    • @steventhury8366
      @steventhury8366 5 лет назад

      Jimmy, This most likely translates into Suriano submitting to defeat.

    • @jordanbabcock9349
      @jordanbabcock9349 5 лет назад +6

      @@steventhury8366 how do you figure? Maybe his thoughts were something like "you stopped me 3 times, you won't stop them all next match"

    • @steventhury8366
      @steventhury8366 5 лет назад

      @@jordanbabcock9349 I generally see those so determine to win the big one not act like this when they lose an important match. I typically see this behavior when it comes to submitting.
      Look at Bo Nickal when he lost to Miles Martin in the finals. Bo, though he lost, would not settle with it. Since his loss, he has owned Miles Martin. This is just my observance of elite competitors. Of course there is a chance I'm wrong about Nick. It's just that Nick has been taking a pounding with the elite guys, and he's not scoring much for points with them.

    • @Thefatcat125
      @Thefatcat125 5 лет назад +2

      Steven Thury I think nicks good now

    • @misterwonderful8628
      @misterwonderful8628 5 лет назад

      He is always a great showman also...such a drive for the win.

  • @Shrimzy
    @Shrimzy 5 лет назад +73

    Suriano looked really good in this match, just couldn't finish his deep leg attacks. Super excited to see this match again!

    • @scottab140
      @scottab140 5 лет назад

      Not finishing is the problem. Guys are bigger and stronger, in the move from 125ibs, and Suriano's technique is not good enough.

    • @Thefatcat125
      @Thefatcat125 5 лет назад

      scottab140 it’s good enough

    • @scottab140
      @scottab140 5 лет назад

      @@Thefatcat125 In this match he did not score and loss.

  • @steventhury8366
    @steventhury8366 5 лет назад +107

    This match indicates to me that it's a toss up between Micic, Suriano, Desantos, and Fix. Did I forget anybody?

    • @tropicalterrarium1742
      @tropicalterrarium1742 5 лет назад +40

      You have to include Roman Bravo Young, Luke Pletcher and also Philippi.. The toughest weight by far.

    • @jv-ix6jh
      @jv-ix6jh 5 лет назад +3

      Maybe Phillip from Pitt excuse me if I spelled his name wrong he has a strong win over fix an will be my dark horse Desanto to depending on which desanto shows up

    • @jv-ix6jh
      @jv-ix6jh 5 лет назад +1

      @@tropicalterrarium1742 Roman is great all I want to see from him is the consistency against ranked opponents an I know he'll be a force he just got a good win over ohio

    • @tropicalterrarium1742
      @tropicalterrarium1742 5 лет назад +5

      This weight is exciting. There is history between Micic and Desanto (watch if you haven not seen that match). Imagine Desanto beating Micic. Fix is my favorite of the bunch and I think he is going to win it at hte Ncaas.

    • @steventhury8366
      @steventhury8366 5 лет назад +1

      @@tropicalterrarium1742 Yes, Roman Bravo Young is faster than a cat. Look out for him.

  • @uc9218
    @uc9218 5 лет назад +66

    The referee was too quick to make those two potentially dangerous calls. The BIG10 is only a few weeks away so they’ll be able to run it back. Nick needs to finish quickly next time around.

    • @cdorsey15yt81
      @cdorsey15yt81 5 лет назад +3

      U C that first call was the right one. The foot was being torqued away from the knee. Second one was a little too quick though.

    • @angelm3670
      @angelm3670 5 лет назад +12

      nah dude it was totally reasonable, like as a referee in wrestling your most important job is to make sure the wrestlers stay safe and he was doing his job, that knee definitely was in danger and better be safe than sorry ya know.

    • @carlchilders2154
      @carlchilders2154 5 лет назад

      @@cdorsey15yt81 Second call was more of a stalemate, which worked in sorryiano's favor.

    • @victorpistone1073
      @victorpistone1073 3 года назад

      That's exactly what Micic does he finishes very fast, you rarely see him stay underneath after shooting very long.

  • @zachneedles2786
    @zachneedles2786 5 лет назад +10

    This weight is tough, its sad to see so many phenomenal wreslters that arent going to win a ncaa championship this year

    • @znhait
      @znhait 5 лет назад

      Not really. It’s a great weight class because it doesn’t go off the boil after the top 2-3 guys, but I don’t think there is a true stud in the weight class. By stud, I mean someone like Nickal or Nolf. There is not one single guy in that weight class that is both great attacking neutral and on top. I love the weight class because anyone can win, but pound for pound, not one of the 133 guys would make my top 10.

  • @aBaltimoreRaven
    @aBaltimoreRaven 5 лет назад +25

    Stallllllll. Hope suriano beats him in rematch

  • @brianhays1743
    @brianhays1743 5 лет назад +29

    How many times can a wrestler put HIMSELF in a dangerous position before he gets called on it.

    • @dusfug
      @dusfug 5 лет назад +2

      Brian Hays that’s what I’m saying. If your defense to a move is something that can hurt you, you’re using the wrong defense and you should be punished for it, not the guys who is 75% of his way through completing the takedown.

  • @davidarevalo1925
    @davidarevalo1925 5 лет назад +5

    This is what makes or breaks a great wrestler I've been following Suriano since HS, and although hes lost his top tier matches he can still show up where it matters !!! Lets GO NJ!!!!!

  • @patrickharlan9586
    @patrickharlan9586 5 лет назад +2

    Man there is soo much talent in the low weight classes now.

  • @misterwonderful8628
    @misterwonderful8628 5 лет назад +4

    Micic is such a world class powerhouse...and the level of skill most of his competition has ..and he still beats them...what a tactician...great weight-class for entertainment and dominant wrestlers also. Suriano was 159-0 with four high school state championships...look at 06:30 and right before the final period...looks like Micic is walking up to a salad bar for a snack. Conditioning.

    • @laydenyump3619
      @laydenyump3619 10 месяцев назад

      Lol, he really is world class now. World champ, even

  • @DarionTerry
    @DarionTerry 5 лет назад +23

    The ref should not have stopped the first Takedown! Suriano was keeping it legal!

    • @tropicalterrarium1742
      @tropicalterrarium1742 5 лет назад +4

      It looked spot on to me. The crowd gets mad at every ref at every match I have ever been to.

    • @AndreBland
      @AndreBland 5 лет назад +3

      That was clearly potentially dangerous. Can you not see the knee and ankle direction? As someone who’s wrestled D1 & suffered major injuries, this was the right call.

    • @sethmachakos9926
      @sethmachakos9926 5 лет назад +1

      @@AndreBland yeah with the right amount of torque your season could be ruined in seconds 😬 good call

  • @JasonSantos21
    @JasonSantos21 2 года назад +1

    they’re going to make for great teammates

  • @OKandEZ
    @OKandEZ 5 лет назад +4

    Wow...the way Micic has been wrestling, I didn't think it would be that close. Oh and why is Daton Fix ranked #2 while Phillipi is ranked #5; when Phillipi beat Fix?

    • @tropicalterrarium1742
      @tropicalterrarium1742 5 лет назад +3

      Philippi got beat by a suriano, who fix beat. Fix has one loss, Philippi has 2 losses.

    • @OKandEZ
      @OKandEZ 5 лет назад

      Wow...I didn't know any of that. Had to look all of it up. I hate being left in the dark all because I don't have a Flo subscription. Anyway, Phillippi looked like a world beater when he wrestled Fix. I just assumed that he didn't lose another match after that. But he only has a couple losses. Getting majored by Suriano was huge, but losing to Myers was a bigger hit to his record. 133 is really an exciting weight class. Can't wait for Nationals.

  • @Brodyrobertson999
    @Brodyrobertson999 Месяц назад

    Why is the whole video timestamped “I hear it too?”

  • @teddavis292
    @teddavis292 5 лет назад +27

    Nick can outmucscle most guys, but not all. He lacks offense, especially on top.

    • @CP7Peanut
      @CP7Peanut 5 лет назад +4

      he doesn't lack offense he just doesn't use it, ive seen him dominate someone with his offense

    • @znhait
      @znhait 5 лет назад +1

      Never against a top guy. At this level-top five in a weight class-all these guys are good in all positions relative to an average wrestler. However, it’s when they face each other, people find out their real strengths abs weaknesses. Suriano has not demonstrated that he’s great on the attack-this is actually the best match I’ve seen him wrestled, offensive wise, in college.

    • @Thefatcat125
      @Thefatcat125 5 лет назад

      Steeve Cantave took down desanto, micic, fix, pletcher I think his offense is pretty good

    • @tylerharris1163
      @tylerharris1163 4 года назад

      ted Davis He is a National Champion though, what are you again?

  • @sambrucevids
    @sambrucevids 5 лет назад +1

    This is the best match I have seen from Suriano. I think it works to both of their advantage that the result was Micic winning. Nick will still be hungry and Stevan realizes there is no huge skill gap.

  • @ThanksStJoseph
    @ThanksStJoseph 5 лет назад +7

    With a different ref this is will be a completely different match.

  • @znhait
    @znhait 5 лет назад +3

    Suriano was the much better wrestler this match. I think his problem is that he’s not used to shooting that much on a top wrestler, hence why he allowed the takedown. But that’s okay, though. He allowed one takedown and could have had three or four of his own. I think he might be the best wrestler at that weight class. That’s quite a poor showing for Micic who got lucky a few stoppages. If he lets other top wrestlers continually get to his legs like this, he’ll lose.

  • @barneyroberts668
    @barneyroberts668 5 лет назад

    Excellent match

  • @ralphfeola3431
    @ralphfeola3431 5 лет назад +6

    Still think Suriano can beat any of his three loses

  • @marc0321
    @marc0321 5 лет назад +3

    If Nick can smooth out his rough edges, I think he could still be a favorite. He seems to control most of these big matches but he is falling short. For one, I think he needs to work on conditioning a little, but more than likely he is just cutting too much weight. Causing him to die out after a burst of offense or at the end of matches. This was most apparent against Austin. In this match, you really get a feel for it at the beginning of the 2nd. Here he seems he is just catching his wind for the first minute. He seems to be literally leaning on micic as a strategy to catch his breath. But again, I can't imagine a wrestler of this Caliber being out of shape. And it makes me think it is a weight cut issue. Which I hope isn't true. He is so talented, and cutting too much weight just takes all the fun out of it. For his sake, I hope this isn't the case. He also needs to have a couple solid go to moves. If he can do a couple things, he can start dictating the outcome a little better. He doesn't have much of a go-to offense, seems more reactionary.
    At 1:20, even with his offense.... he gets in on the shot, and then he seems lost. You get a full 8 count of him just hanging on. No movement on either side. He doesn't move (react ) until micic tries to switch out of it. So.. again , even with his offense, he is reactionary vs being the aggressor.
    And with his reactionary style he ends up positive often based on his strength alone. And I think that is illustrated at the end of the match here. You can see he kind of just changes levels without much of an idea of what to do. Like he is a bit lost. If you look st the PSU "row" they all have several go to moves that they are confident in, and they would all be able to st least put in a couple solid attempts at the end of a match. And they would have enough gas left to do so. Nick just needs to do a few things to start coming out on top here. Conditioning (which may be out of his control if he is cutting more than 10 lbs. off of his lowest natural weight) and a little technical work would help him finish those two shots, that were called off, much quicker. The technical work would put him in a better, more offensive position, and conditioning would help him drive through it. And keep your head in the match. Don't worry about the refs, control what you can control. Anyhow... just my two cents.

  • @graceandtruthfellowship4347
    @graceandtruthfellowship4347 3 года назад

    NCAA wrestling has so many elite level wrestlers these days it's like watching PPV title fights every week

  • @cfbaddict7284
    @cfbaddict7284 5 лет назад +7

    I am in no place to coach suriano, but i think often times he doesnt lower his level well enough on a lot of his shots that first hi-c probably wouldve been a takedown bc he couldve drove right through him

  • @jannorris4140
    @jannorris4140 3 года назад +1

    Way to go Ref ,,,

  • @Qaraj.
    @Qaraj. 5 лет назад +5

    Micic hella stalled , suriano is better in my opinion

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples 4 года назад

    Great wrestling.

  • @mryan9675
    @mryan9675 5 лет назад +14

    After seeing all the top wrestlers at this weight, I personally think that DeSanto looks better than the rest and is going to come out as the national champion. Unless of course he does something stupid and gets himself disqualified.

    • @michaelnorth2055
      @michaelnorth2055 5 лет назад

      Let's hope he doesn't get DQ'd and makes it into the finals!

    • @znhait
      @znhait 5 лет назад +1

      I think DeSanto gets a huge boost grappling with studs around his weight class in Lee and past Hawkeye wrestlers like Gilman and Clark. His coaches, the Brands brothers, also were big winners at the lower weights.

    • @jackworthington5205
      @jackworthington5205 5 лет назад

      Daton fix is the best

    • @YESTWENTYONEWINS
      @YESTWENTYONEWINS 5 лет назад

      Close matches bring out the "Mr. Hyde" in Dr. Jekyll Desanto. Gotta pray for Desanto to keep his cool. If so, he might win.

    • @estban2065
      @estban2065 5 лет назад

      DeSanto will not win the Big Ten and I will be surprised if he makes the NCAA semis. No way he will be National champ,

  • @DB-115
    @DB-115 5 лет назад

    Suriano though he lost looked good here. Usually when he loses he's just not aggressive.

  • @uman965
    @uman965 5 лет назад +5

    BIG MISTAKE LEAVING PENN STATE - I DO NOT SEE NICK SURIANO WINNING ANY NCAA TITLES!!!

  • @leannabad3839
    @leannabad3839 5 лет назад +2

    I think its Desanto v Fix in finals

    • @tropicalterrarium1742
      @tropicalterrarium1742 5 лет назад +2

      would be amazing lol

    • @leannabad3839
      @leannabad3839 5 лет назад

      Battle Toad I’m a Michigan fan so I def want Micic to win, but based on this I’m not sure he’d be able to handle either of them.

  • @yourspiritguide3635
    @yourspiritguide3635 5 лет назад

    Great news he beat mici in the semi finals of ncaa

  • @anoka114
    @anoka114 5 лет назад +2

    Micic didn't take a shot in first period just stalled.

  • @ricardoacevedo6922
    @ricardoacevedo6922 5 лет назад +1

    Indiana getting it out here nick lee and Steven micic don’t forget chad red👿🤼‍♂️

  • @kenny2xtimes61
    @kenny2xtimes61 5 лет назад +3

    I hope suriano wins ncaa

  • @michaeld9682
    @michaeld9682 3 года назад

    Micic is so good at technique

  • @robwerter7494
    @robwerter7494 2 года назад +2

    Suriano could have been a 3X NCAA champion under Cael Sanderson. He only had a handful of losses in high school and none that flawed his dual meet 159-0 record. He's now a serial quitter. He got beat a few times at Penn State and quit - then he lost in the Olympic trials and quit - he even refused to wrestle his consolation matches - now he quit Rutgers... SAD! He could have been a great wrestler but he will leave college with one NCAA championship! He's super strong for his weight just not a great technical wrestler.

  • @mikeetrujillo884
    @mikeetrujillo884 5 лет назад

    Agreed Suriano needs to go back to the white mat wizarda

  • @GhassanLifts
    @GhassanLifts 5 лет назад +1

    I’m sorry, do you pronounce it “Me-Che-Ch” or “Mi-Sic”

  • @JasonLayton
    @JasonLayton 5 лет назад +1

    Suriano should practice nothing but finishing.

  • @mikesnitro
    @mikesnitro 5 лет назад

    If Suriano had the skill of Ethan Lizak or Spencer Lee on top, he would be much more dominant. Maybe too muscular and not enough length. Definitely strong enough to work tilts.

  • @anoka114
    @anoka114 5 лет назад +1

    Poor officiating especially 3rd period. Suriano did all the work and had a potential td stopped.

  • @cosinguspalpatine4449
    @cosinguspalpatine4449 5 лет назад +1

    Micic always circles to the right with his left foot first, like bro you look like you're about to cross your feet. Practice you circling so that your right foot moves an inch, then left foot moves an inch

    • @RomeroXVII
      @RomeroXVII 5 лет назад

      Lol.

    • @Happycamper808
      @Happycamper808 4 года назад

      Did you really just give the #1 Seed in NCAAs advice on movement🙈☠️

  • @aantoine5819
    @aantoine5819 2 года назад

    Now they’re teammates

  • @RXW4
    @RXW4 Год назад

    Score should have been 4-3 for Nick. Stevan has at least 4 stalling calls that wasn't even called?

  • @nicholasrobert9053
    @nicholasrobert9053 5 лет назад +2

    Desanto will beat Micic if given the chsnce. Idk about Suriano or fix.

  • @CarolinaBlood704
    @CarolinaBlood704 5 лет назад +6

    Maybe Nick should have stayed at Penn St....

    • @cosinguspalpatine4449
      @cosinguspalpatine4449 5 лет назад

      RBY could be 125 and Suriano at 133 that'd be a sweet first pair. Why did Suriano transfer?

    • @joshuabarros9798
      @joshuabarros9798 5 лет назад

      Cosingus Palpatine 444 He transferee because he didn’t like the way penn states coaches “dealt” with his ankle injury

  • @InternetMunchies
    @InternetMunchies 5 лет назад

    He's got to find a way to score pointd

  • @malachiharvey3440
    @malachiharvey3440 5 лет назад +2

    Micic

    • @n.h6001
      @n.h6001 5 лет назад

      Not this time around... just wait

  • @0oMag
    @0oMag 3 года назад

    American college wrestling is more exciting than the world stage
    Prove me wrong

  • @michaelsandelier6800
    @michaelsandelier6800 5 лет назад

    Love Suriano's composure and attitude , he's got awesome snaps that creates opening, 2 things he lacks and hopefully can overcome is his ability to dictate the match, against highly skilled and ranked opponents, seems to cost the kid, he's so talented and you only hope he pushes himself to that confidence and level that J. B. Was able to do few years back, it's like you become so good how do u maintain that caliber of What I call John Smith peakness! next to refs constantly dictating his matches, he needs to give no reasons for the refs to sabotage his Ws and Ls ... Micic is not at all as good as wrestler as Suriano! Suriano's finds ways to beat himself, and if I was him if I was Nick I'd do nothing from that match on but work only on his finishes! Next to the refs it's cost him 3 defeats! Shame great kid!

  • @dusfug
    @dusfug 5 лет назад

    I hate potentially dangerous calls on near completed takedowns. Okay for one, if your defense of a move is something that can hurt you, you’re defending the move incorrectly and the ref shouldn’t bail out a wrestler that is letting his knee be torqued 90 degrees because he’s too stubborn to allow the takedown. Either he will hurt his knee and learn when to admit defeat or the takedown will be completed. The rule book shouldn’t be bailing out stubbornness and punishing wrestlers that have nearly completed a takedown.
    I just hate potentially dangerous calls in general. Only called when they’re never needed, and when they’re desperately needed they’re called way too late. If a top wrestler is putting on an illegal move I get it, but if the defending wrestler’s defense is “let him wrench my knee until the ref steps in” that’s an abusal of the rule, wrestlers shouldn’t be using their health as leverage to stop takedowns.

  • @johnfls
    @johnfls 5 лет назад

    Great match

  • @shanefurtah1950
    @shanefurtah1950 5 лет назад

    Micic looks alot better from last year

  • @Da3Overrated
    @Da3Overrated 5 лет назад

    Micic always the goat

  • @johnfraleee
    @johnfraleee 5 лет назад +4

    Suriano won’t be winning any national titles until he stops playing the victim every time a potentially dangerous, unnecessary roughness, or stall calls is against him. The refs call it the same whether it’s him or an unranked kid but he seems to think he should be an exception and so do his fans

    • @estban2065
      @estban2065 5 лет назад

      You obviously didn't see the full match. The ref was as inconsistent as they come. And, Suriano was prejudiced as a result

    • @johnfraleee
      @johnfraleee 5 лет назад

      I’m happy for him that he won a title after posting this. He seemed like a different wrestler at Big 10s and Ncaas. Some calls didn’t go his way and he wrestled through it. I was really pulling for him after big 10s.

  • @l.rongardner2150
    @l.rongardner2150 5 лет назад

    Thanks to Suriano, I no longer need sleeping pills. All I have to do is put on a tape of one of his matches against a top competitor--and in no time I'm fast asleep.

  • @TheWhatnow9999
    @TheWhatnow9999 5 лет назад

    Disappointed in micic wrestling there he's usually epic to watch

    • @dangelojenkins4296
      @dangelojenkins4296 5 лет назад

      His knee was hurt from wrestling in europe so he had to wrestle safe

  • @carlspicer8356
    @carlspicer8356 2 года назад

    Suriano is strong and fit - just not a great wrestler. He now has 8 losses in college and he has quit 4 times. Yes - he quit the super32 in high school after he lost, he quit Penn State after Gilman beat him (NOT because he broke his ankle later in the season), he quit the Olympic trials after the loss to Tomasello (he wouldn't even wrestle his consolation matches, he quit Rutgers... maybe he will finish in Michigan without quitting...

  • @cristianmendoza6301
    @cristianmendoza6301 5 лет назад

    Suriano needs to be that aggressive bully wrestler he use to be literally wait until the last minute for everything. And talk about stalling that's all you ever see from guys now a days score late and runs away proving nothing but doubt in their skills as a wrestler

  • @malachiharvey3440
    @malachiharvey3440 5 лет назад +1

    Suriano got cheated

  • @traskpierce3774
    @traskpierce3774 3 года назад

    Ni 3

  • @caseywolff3489
    @caseywolff3489 5 лет назад

    Before I watch this I think seriono gonna win well... Rip

  • @traviswillis1953
    @traviswillis1953 5 лет назад +2

    Bs calls from the ref

  • @danarmando537
    @danarmando537 5 лет назад +5

    Nick Suriano...the greatest 159-0 Four Time NJ State Champion...to do nothing in College who can't finish a single. I guess Micic is representing Indiana better than Suriano is Jersey. Pffft...

    • @danarmando537
      @danarmando537 5 лет назад +2

      A year behind what and who.... and what does his age matter? Look at Vincenzo Joseph and other elite College wrestlers...Suriano was an Elite HS wrestler...not College. @@tropicalterrarium1742

    • @jschnabes13
      @jschnabes13 5 лет назад +1

      Please don't even try to compare the level of Indiana HS wrestling to the level of New Jersey...It was close match that could gone either way here...and both Suriano and Micic have plenty of wrestling left in their careers...we shall see what happens when it counts in March

    • @danarmando537
      @danarmando537 5 лет назад +1

      Dear Jon: I wrestled in NJ, placed 5th in the State in 1980. I have a very poignant respect for competition...and that is my point...apparently Suriano peaked in HS. Nothing wrong with that...I just expect more from a 159-0 4 time Jersey Champ. Apparently a 184-5, 3 time Indiana State Champ is better...enough said. @@jschnabes13

    • @jschnabes13
      @jschnabes13 5 лет назад +3

      @@danarmando537 Fair enough Dan...But I think it's still a bit early to say he has peaked, or that Micic is definitely better then him...They both have a runner up finish in the national championships, and they just had an extremely close match here. Time will tell who ends up having the better college career. And respect for your placing in the NJ State championships, just making it to that level in Jersey is very impressive:)

    • @cosinguspalpatine4449
      @cosinguspalpatine4449 5 лет назад

      @@jschnabes13 Indiana is a tough state but New Jersey still has much more competition given their population and also, they're just a friggin hot bed for wrestling. BUT Indiana has a lot of competition even being a less populated state. I mean just watch some of the 2009/2010 and up state finals with tough ass mofos like Cody Phillips and Brandon Nelson

  • @donromeroo6389
    @donromeroo6389 3 года назад

    Ref sucked