Hi Thanks for the tv advice. I bought the LGc4 48". It's beautiful. I tried the Mac mini with it. As much as I loved the small size and great zwift experience...I'm not an apple user. I would prefer a PC. I'd love to build it myself. Do you have any recommendations on a build to get ultra 4k high fps?
@@ocdeancyclistmost modern PCs with a dedicated graphics card would run Zwift in it’s highest resolution. I would check out this post on ZwiftInsider by Dave Higgins for a ton of good info on finding a pc or building your own: zwiftinsider.com/zwift-pc-guide-2/
I would be very curious to see a comparison of the quality of the video between Apple TV and the Mini. I appreciate your comparison to the gaming PC but since I use an Apple TV currently I wonder if the upgrade is truly worth it.
if you once have used a machine that supports higher resolutions, you will never go back ;-) I ran Zwift on ATv in my first 2 seasons on Zwift. last year I switched this to a MB air M1, what was a huge improvement and now since 2 weeks Zwift runs absolutely fantastic an the M4 mini base config
Thanks - I think I just figured out my next purchase. Getting rid of the Bluetooth connection limitations of the Apple TV would be worth it alone - enabling the circumvention of having to use the Zwift companion app. The enhanced graphics are just icing on the cake.
In 2017 I purchased a Alienware Alpha R2 with GTX960 chip. My Zwift experience has been great. I can run 1440 Ultra without many hitches. I can run it at 4k but things get choppy. I'm considering the Mac mini M4 because I would like an enhanced Zwift experience but primarily just because I need a new computer. I wish Zwift would get the iPad Pro M4 with similar performance to the Mini because I think that would be the way I would go.
Excellent - thanks Tariq! It's really smart that you dedicated ~4 minutes to the performance vs. user experience aspect. It seems that today, with Zwift's current back-end content, the base M4 model at High Profile appears to run Zwift well enough for nearly all users. Although it's often foolish to attempt "future-proofing" by spending beyond what your current usage/services require, I'm wondering if some folks will be tempted to do so by getting M4 Pro version of Mac mini...
This video was perfect timing for me, thanks! Just got a UWQHD curved monitor & will grab a Mac mini 24Gb/512GB from the Education store in the Black Friday sale. Thanks for covering all my questions! Looking forward to Zwifting on this setup next month.
I have been running Zwift on a Mac Mini M1 - it is flawless, I run high profile graphics on a 36" curved monitor - I have never had any issues running swift - as for the power button it is so efficient I do not turn mine off - only times it powers down is with a software update etc. Great machines.
Another nice review, Tariq, but I think your comments regarding Frankenstein PCs are a bit wide of the mark. I absolutely agree that if small form factor is critical, it's hard to beat the Mini M4. But my Frankenstein PC cost about $200 and gives me everything except 4K resolution (GTX 960), so I'm not about to ditch it for the Mini M4. Some people just don't have $500 to spend. However, if I had the money, or even if I were just starting with Zwift/indoor training, it's definitely something I would consider (I did actually purchase an Apple TV 4K, but my PC puts it in the shade, being able to use the Ultra setting). Regardless, the Mini M4 is an important addition to the list of "possibles" for technology that will run Zwift - thanks for the review!
That comment wasn’t mean to take anything away from budget PCs. I think they are great and wish we have more of them and can be more accessible. It was meant to be a playful nudge and just show how impressive the Mac Mini is and what Apple has done here. Hopefully this pushes more PC manufacturers into making more PCs that are as powerful and as affordable or even more affordable as the Mini.
I am using the Keychron K3 QMK Wireless Mechanical Keyboard and M3 wireless mouse Mouse: amzn.to/4hUU4o1 Keyboard: www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k3-qmk-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-3?
I moved from PC to MacMini M2 about 9 months ago and have seen none of the graphics issues that made me move. The video capture on PC resulted in freezing (not good when riding particularly while doing training sessions), none of that has occurred since moving to the M2. M2 quite sufficient but may consider MacMini M4 to improve the already amazing graphics quality I get on the M2.
I dont want to use a keyboard and mouse so would love to see the M4 chip in a new ATV. I want to run 4k 60hz. I think thats the sweet spot for zwift but im just a guy on the internet.
The profile is set to high regardless of resolution. Here is the M4 on 1080 resolution and still getting high profile. zwiftalizer.com/public/6b6366bd-446b-4047-a3bf-ba15196d932d
I’m too busy sweating to appreciate the high graphics detail, I’m fine with 1080p. LOL. I have a M2 Pro Mac Mini. I do not use it for Zwift but it is a powerhouse.
Did you, or can you possibly test a Makuri route with a very high number of riders on a group ride or race, apparently the least optimzed and most demanding combination on the platform? Thanks!!! - Bob (Toronto Canada)
I did a 50 min run in Makuri in ultra resolution and no difference in FPS. averaged 80 FPS. Will try to catch a group ride at some point and see how it handles with the crowd.
I did an 80 person run recently on the base m4 mac mini, with 'ultra' config file add ons -- frame rate dropped into the 40s for most of the ride with the large pack. Will try reducing foilage density next time (was running 2.5)
شكرا على المراجعه القصيرة لجهاز كبير بالاداء خاصة من يبحث عن الاستفاده الكاملة من تطبيق Zwift من جميع النواحي اعتبرها صفقه رابحه لتوفير مساحه في مكان تمرينك وجوده عاليه
If you get a Microsoft media keyboard with built in keyboard (you may need a USB-A to C adapter), it’s fine. Also if you don’t mind not using keyboard shortcuts, an Apple touchpad is easy. Still, I get it.
I don't know why people complain about the power button, my intel iMac mid-2019 is used only to run Zwift nowadays and it has been more than 2 months since I don't turn it off, after I finish my training it goes to sleep mode and that is all I need.
Tariq, how are you able to compare high and ultra with exactly the same footage? Other players are exactly in the same spots, so to me looks as if it's the same footage?😅
While taking a close look, I did notice the shadows are a bit sharper with the gaming setup. Then again, I had to freeze the frame to stop this. Anyone noticing probably isn't sweating enough.. Thanks for the video, was on the brink of putting together a cheap zwift desktop but considering I would only use it for zwift I think it would still be a waste of resources. Thus decided to opted for the mini m4!
@ You are a man true to his word then :) Vividly remember you making this promise a year or two ago on one of your optimal-Zwift setup videos. Clearly your son has been paying attention too.
There is a NUC using latest AMD R9 with 32gb / 2T ssd + win 11 Pro. That one is much better for gaming. However power efficiency of macMini is much better.
Unrelated to this video, but do you have (or could you make) a video that speaks to choosing the right size TV for Zwift. Seems like smaller sizes would be better if you are right in front of it, and larger better if you're further away. However I just don't know with modern HD/4k tvs.
I have 42” TVs and sit about 5-6 feet away. Used to have a 60” in my old workout space and I got used to it after a while but I think the smaller TVs work much better and easier on the eye. For me, I find picture quality and screen clarity are more important than size.
The mini boot up instantly from sleep. As far as zwift. It can vary depending on network speed and updates. I just timed mine and it took Zwift about 25 seconds to get me to the pairing screen.
@SmartBikeTrainers thanks for the great review. I'm gonna get the mini now and two screens. I was debating 2 TVs, one smart to run YT and Netflix and the other for zwift. I think though, to be able to overlay trainerroad its worth going all in with the mini.
A zwift PC would cost you a third of the price of the M4 for 5% less performance. Size wise yes its bigger. Noise? Not a problem i can barely hear mine when i stay 1meter aside, not to mention once i start pedaling the Tacx and a fan are all i hear. Limited BT connection is the bigest draw back as you have to run Zwift though you phone.
I think you may be getting the Apple TV and the Mac Mini mixed up. The ATV only allows 3 BT connections, 1 of which is the remote. The Mac Mini allows upto 9 BT connections at any one time.
There are some apps that allow you to control your Mac using only your phone. The app I used to have is called Remote Mouse and worked well. Haven’t used it in a while though.
@@SmartBikeTrainers I actually found a video about one such as that allows the Apple TV remote to control a Mac. So I guess there are solutions. Phone is not as good as it runs the Companion app, but the Apple TV remote might be interesting.
Zwift allows you to select the video resolution who can go up to 4K. However, the graphic profile can’t be selected by the user and is set to “high” which is one level lower than the maximum which is “Ultra” profile. Hope that helps.
Really interested to see what happens with the AppleTV in 2025. Seen some rumours of a Pro version with an Mx chipset with a gaming vibe. Whether that will pan out I don't know. This however is just awesome for the price.
Apple is going to have to get into the gaming industry at some point here. In the meantime, this one is great and interested to see if more games get into it.
@@brentcunningham487 I use the Keychron K3 version 3: www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k3-qmk-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-3?ref=TARIQ Mouse is Keychron M3 Wireless Mouse: www.keychron.com/products/keychron-m3-wireless-mouse?ref=TARIQ
You think? My TVs support 120hz. It does go up to 120fps when in game menu but drops to 80 once I’m in a ride. Here is an example zwiftalizer.com/public/22e27d1a-92a1-4140-ab67-eefc4d8738f6
Great review. This will replace my Windows laptop that can't be upgraded. It is the last Windows computer in our family. We will be Linux/Apple from here on out.
You don't need something this OP and overpriced for Zwift. I run zwift 4k on a 8th Gen Intel Nuc i3 (Iris Graphcis) at 4k without issue. Cost me $200 on ebay three years ago brand new.
On one YT page there is endless cribbing and crying about Zwift looking for a small price increase per month - meanwhile on another YT page let’s drop 500 on something to just view the game on 😂 I wonder how many would be in the centre of the Venn Diagram🤔😂
The asrock desk mini x300 with 5series chip will destroy the apple in gaming and expressly zwift. It will have better resolution, frame rate, more in world items,details and shadows. You are incorrect. Zwift has refused to optimize for Apple from day one. I have several machines and the PCs have much more of everything and can hit whatever frame rate my graphics can handle. Apple still limited to 60 actual fps and minimal in game details. The asrock desk mini with 4650 g will smoke the apple m4 in zwift. Now what would I buy having both? The m4 mini because of all else it can do.
Five hundred bucks and it won't even run "Ultra" profile.... That's a crappy downgrade from my $40 Acer Veriton M2631G with $12 SSD and just a GTX1050Ti at 60 bucks which will run Ultra.... It's analogous to someone telling you MP3 sounds better than FLAC.... Sounds like you got paid to push this lol
Why spend all that money on extra-nice graphics? It's pointless. It's way too expensive to use it just for Zwift. The NiPoGi AM16 Mini PC ΑΜD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U or similar, is way cheaper and perfectly fine.
If you are interested in the Mac mini M4, here is my affiliate link with Amazon: amzn.to/3Od6RER
Hi Thanks for the tv advice. I bought the LGc4 48". It's beautiful. I tried the Mac mini with it. As much as I loved the small size and great zwift experience...I'm not an apple user. I would prefer a PC. I'd love to build it myself. Do you have any recommendations on a build to get ultra 4k high fps?
@@ocdeancyclistmost modern PCs with a dedicated graphics card would run Zwift in it’s highest resolution. I would check out this post on ZwiftInsider by Dave Higgins for a ton of good info on finding a pc or building your own:
zwiftinsider.com/zwift-pc-guide-2/
This is the only Mac Mini review I care about...and you answered all my questions. Thanks!
Came here to say the same.
You are welcome! Glad to help 🙂
I would be very curious to see a comparison of the quality of the video between Apple TV and the Mini. I appreciate your comparison to the gaming PC but since I use an Apple TV currently I wonder if the upgrade is truly worth it.
Yep same here.. I only use Appletv for Zwift 😊
Waiting for this too
if you once have used a machine that supports higher resolutions, you will never go back ;-) I ran Zwift on ATv in my first 2 seasons on Zwift. last year I switched this to a MB air M1, what was a huge improvement and now since 2 weeks Zwift runs absolutely fantastic an the M4 mini base config
Thanks - I think I just figured out my next purchase. Getting rid of the Bluetooth connection limitations of the Apple TV would be worth it alone - enabling the circumvention of having to use the Zwift companion app. The enhanced graphics are just icing on the cake.
This is the review I’ve been waiting for…… I knew you would be the first and that you wouldn’t let us down, thank you!
In 2017 I purchased a Alienware Alpha R2 with GTX960 chip. My Zwift experience has been great. I can run 1440 Ultra without many hitches. I can run it at 4k but things get choppy. I'm considering the Mac mini M4 because I would like an enhanced Zwift experience but primarily just because I need a new computer. I wish Zwift would get the iPad Pro M4 with similar performance to the Mini because I think that would be the way I would go.
Just binned by dedicated Zwift PC. This is an absolute game changer
Other than the form factor, why would you bin a Zwift-dedicated PC for a M4?
@ it just works
Excellent - thanks Tariq!
It's really smart that you dedicated ~4 minutes to the performance vs. user experience aspect. It seems that today, with Zwift's current back-end content, the base M4 model at High Profile appears to run Zwift well enough for nearly all users.
Although it's often foolish to attempt "future-proofing" by spending beyond what your current usage/services require, I'm wondering if some folks will be tempted to do so by getting M4 Pro version of Mac mini...
This video was perfect timing for me, thanks! Just got a UWQHD curved monitor & will grab a Mac mini 24Gb/512GB from the Education store in the Black Friday sale. Thanks for covering all my questions! Looking forward to Zwifting on this setup next month.
I have been running Zwift on a Mac Mini M1 - it is flawless, I run high profile graphics on a 36" curved monitor - I have never had any issues running swift - as for the power button it is so efficient I do not turn mine off - only times it powers down is with a software update etc. Great machines.
Glad to hear you are enjoying your M1!
Great review! Now I got answers to all my questions. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching !
the mac mini is so good. i have hooked up an "old" macbook m1 to my TV for zwift. it runs all well but boy am I tempted to order such a mini for it :)
Been waiting for this!
Another nice review, Tariq, but I think your comments regarding Frankenstein PCs are a bit wide of the mark. I absolutely agree that if small form factor is critical, it's hard to beat the Mini M4. But my Frankenstein PC cost about $200 and gives me everything except 4K resolution (GTX 960), so I'm not about to ditch it for the Mini M4. Some people just don't have $500 to spend.
However, if I had the money, or even if I were just starting with Zwift/indoor training, it's definitely something I would consider (I did actually purchase an Apple TV 4K, but my PC puts it in the shade, being able to use the Ultra setting). Regardless, the Mini M4 is an important addition to the list of "possibles" for technology that will run Zwift - thanks for the review!
That comment wasn’t mean to take anything away from budget PCs. I think they are great and wish we have more of them and can be more accessible. It was meant to be a playful nudge and just show how impressive the Mac Mini is and what Apple has done here. Hopefully this pushes more PC manufacturers into making more PCs that are as powerful and as affordable or even more affordable as the Mini.
Great video, thanks!
You are welcome!
argggg...at the beginning of this year I purchased an M2 Mini (which I am very happy with)...now I have size envy!
don't we all have size envy (iykwim) 😏
zwift runs in max settings on an e-waste pc. You only need like a nvidia gtx 970 or a amd Rx580 which you can get for $30.
ja idd man wtf
Which keyboard & mouse do you use, or do you run some kind of external desktop ?
I am using the Keychron K3 QMK Wireless Mechanical Keyboard and M3 wireless mouse
Mouse: amzn.to/4hUU4o1
Keyboard: www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k3-qmk-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-3?
I moved from PC to MacMini M2 about 9 months ago and have seen none of the graphics issues that made me move. The video capture on PC resulted in freezing (not good when riding particularly while doing training sessions), none of that has occurred since moving to the M2. M2 quite sufficient but may consider MacMini M4 to improve the already amazing graphics quality I get on the M2.
What about the Apple TV experience that Zwift committed to, but is well overdue to upgrade?
I dont want to use a keyboard and mouse so would love to see the M4 chip in a new ATV. I want to run 4k 60hz. I think thats the sweet spot for zwift but im just a guy on the internet.
I wonder if it bumps up the details to ULTRA if you set the resolution down to 1080p ? Thanks for the great video!
The profile is set to high regardless of resolution. Here is the M4 on 1080 resolution and still getting high profile.
zwiftalizer.com/public/6b6366bd-446b-4047-a3bf-ba15196d932d
I’m too busy sweating to appreciate the high graphics detail, I’m fine with 1080p. LOL. I have a M2 Pro Mac Mini. I do not use it for Zwift but it is a powerhouse.
Can you tell me more about the tv setup? What size tv and what is the stand you are using?
The TVs are Sony 43 Inch 4K Ultra HD TV X85K: amzn.to/4gduGbG
The TV Stands are Perlegear Floor TV Stand: amzn.to/3OuAvpk
@@SmartBikeTrainersthank you!
Did you, or can you possibly test a Makuri route with a very high number of riders on a group ride or race, apparently the least optimzed and most demanding combination on the platform? Thanks!!! - Bob (Toronto Canada)
I did a 50 min run in Makuri in ultra resolution and no difference in FPS. averaged 80 FPS. Will try to catch a group ride at some point and see how it handles with the crowd.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Thank you kind Sir!
I did an 80 person run recently on the base m4 mac mini, with 'ultra' config file add ons -- frame rate dropped into the 40s for most of the ride with the large pack. Will try reducing foilage density next time (was running 2.5)
@@testnghangouts9262do you notice a difference in graphics with the “ultra” profile addon? Also, What resolution do you have set?
شكرا على المراجعه القصيرة لجهاز كبير بالاداء خاصة من يبحث عن الاستفاده الكاملة من تطبيق Zwift من جميع النواحي اعتبرها صفقه رابحه لتوفير مساحه في مكان تمرينك وجوده عاليه
يا اهلاً وسهلاً.
If it could use the Apple tv remote I would definately consider it but I really don't want to have to use a keyboard and mouse on a trainer
If you get a Microsoft media keyboard with built in keyboard (you may need a USB-A to C adapter), it’s fine. Also if you don’t mind not using keyboard shortcuts, an Apple touchpad is easy. Still, I get it.
Thanks for the fantastic review! How many Bluetooth connections can Mini handle?
It should handle all your devices without any issue. But I believe the maximum limit is 7 devices simultaneously.
I don't know why people complain about the power button, my intel iMac mid-2019 is used only to run Zwift nowadays and it has been more than 2 months since I don't turn it off, after I finish my training it goes to sleep mode and that is all I need.
Not much to complain about with this device so we have to find something to complain about 🙂
Thanks for the video,
You’re welcome!
You are welcome!
Tariq, how are you able to compare high and ultra with exactly the same footage? Other players are exactly in the same spots, so to me looks as if it's the same footage?😅
Haha… good question. I had one running on my Gaming PC in ultra and the other was running on the Mac mini in high profile.
While taking a close look, I did notice the shadows are a bit sharper with the gaming setup. Then again, I had to freeze the frame to stop this. Anyone noticing probably isn't sweating enough..
Thanks for the video, was on the brink of putting together a cheap zwift desktop but considering I would only use it for zwift I think it would still be a waste of resources. Thus decided to opted for the mini m4!
Thank you sir, great review. Does this mean the end for your Alien gaming PC set up?
My son was asking the same thing and putting dibs on it 😆
Yes, switching to the M4 Mini.
@ You are a man true to his word then :) Vividly remember you making this promise a year or two ago on one of your optimal-Zwift setup videos. Clearly your son has been paying attention too.
There is a NUC using latest AMD R9 with 32gb / 2T ssd + win 11 Pro. That one is much better for gaming. However power efficiency of macMini is much better.
Meh - if you enjoy paying for Windows 11 and having to wait for updates three times a week 👍
Unrelated to this video, but do you have (or could you make) a video that speaks to choosing the right size TV for Zwift. Seems like smaller sizes would be better if you are right in front of it, and larger better if you're further away. However I just don't know with modern HD/4k tvs.
I have 42” TVs and sit about 5-6 feet away. Used to have a 60” in my old workout space and I got used to it after a while but I think the smaller TVs work much better and easier on the eye. For me, I find picture quality and screen clarity are more important than size.
How quickly does it take to boot up and starting to ride?
The mini boot up instantly from sleep. As far as zwift. It can vary depending on network speed and updates. I just timed mine and it took Zwift about 25 seconds to get me to the pairing screen.
@SmartBikeTrainers thanks for the great review. I'm gonna get the mini now and two screens. I was debating 2 TVs, one smart to run YT and Netflix and the other for zwift. I think though, to be able to overlay trainerroad its worth going all in with the mini.
A zwift PC would cost you a third of the price of the M4 for 5% less performance. Size wise yes its bigger. Noise? Not a problem i can barely hear mine when i stay 1meter aside, not to mention once i start pedaling the Tacx and a fan are all i hear. Limited BT connection is the bigest draw back as you have to run Zwift though you phone.
I think you may be getting the Apple TV and the Mac Mini mixed up. The ATV only allows 3 BT connections, 1 of which is the remote.
The Mac Mini allows upto 9 BT connections at any one time.
5% less performance? - that’s a f£&king good one mate 😂
is there a way to avoid keyboard and mouse ?
There are some apps that allow you to control your Mac using only your phone. The app I used to have is called Remote Mouse and worked well. Haven’t used it in a while though.
@@SmartBikeTrainers I actually found a video about one such as that allows the Apple TV remote to control a Mac. So I guess there are solutions. Phone is not as good as it runs the Companion app, but the Apple TV remote might be interesting.
With the Mac Mini M4 can you still use Ant+ or does everything have to connect via BT?
Yes, you can use ANT+
Need a USB external ant+ dongle, but yes, if you have that, works great.
I'm confused. Are you saying that--even when I select 4K in Zwift settings on my M4--the max resolution I can actually get is 2K???
Zwift allows you to select the video resolution who can go up to 4K. However, the graphic profile can’t be selected by the user and is set to “high” which is one level lower than the maximum which is “Ultra” profile. Hope that helps.
Really interested to see what happens with the AppleTV in 2025. Seen some rumours of a Pro version with an Mx chipset with a gaming vibe. Whether that will pan out I don't know. This however is just awesome for the price.
Apple is going to have to get into the gaming industry at some point here. In the meantime, this one is great and interested to see if more games get into it.
I’d prefer a decent lean back interface on the Mac Mini and the ability to run TvOS apps as well as iPad apps.
Do you use it with a keyboard and mouse for this? Or can you just use an Apple Remote?
I have a wireless keyboard and mouse connected to it.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Do you mind identifying the keyboard and mouse that you use?
@@brentcunningham487 I use the Keychron K3 version 3: www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k3-qmk-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-3?ref=TARIQ
Mouse is Keychron M3 Wireless Mouse: www.keychron.com/products/keychron-m3-wireless-mouse?ref=TARIQ
Does the Mac have ANT built in. On my win11 pc my ANT dongle is USBA
No it isn’t built in. You will need to get an Ant+ USB-C key.
@@SmartBikeTrainers or an adapter from USB A to USB C, works like a charm
Does look good, but, for Zwift, if you don't care about size/noise build a PC then?
This! I don't hear my Zwift PC over the turbo, netflix, me grunting and groaning. Sits nicely on the floor behind the Kickr Climb out the way.
So how many bluetooth channels does it support?
There is no clear cut on how many devices can be paired. So you can pair as many as you would like.
From comments I have seen, people are running upto 9 BT connections at a time. But officially I think Bluetooth 5.3 is limited to 7
I can't see a world where it makes sense paying this much just for a smaller profile versus a PC.
$600+ to run Zwift?
Which runs on Apple TV
Exactly. Pointless.
No kidding. It can edit 4k no problem. Pretty sure it can run a "game" like Zwift.
But you can run dual monitors and have another task going.
start jogging !!! it will cheaper 4u or stop buying toilet paper to save money for zwift.
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They should just let us use turn on & off the mac mini with our iPhones
Can i install Linux ?
I really wish Zwift would make it easier to run on LInux. I hate maintaining a Windows 10 machine just for my Zwift setup.
@@jamesfresethere is a docker image that runs the Windows version in WINE very well. I use it on Fedora 41. Its on GitHub (netbrain/zwift)
Capped at 80fps sounds like a monitor sync cap, not zwift.
You think? My TVs support 120hz. It does go up to 120fps when in game menu but drops to 80 once I’m in a ride. Here is an example
zwiftalizer.com/public/22e27d1a-92a1-4140-ab67-eefc4d8738f6
Great review. This will replace my Windows laptop that can't be upgraded. It is the last Windows computer in our family. We will be Linux/Apple from here on out.
You don't need something this OP and overpriced for Zwift. I run zwift 4k on a 8th Gen Intel Nuc i3 (Iris Graphcis) at 4k without issue. Cost me $200 on ebay three years ago brand new.
On one YT page there is endless cribbing and crying about Zwift looking for a small price increase per month - meanwhile on another YT page let’s drop 500 on something to just view the game on 😂 I wonder how many would be in the centre of the Venn Diagram🤔😂
A Bmax Mini PC is the same size, runs Zwift just fine, and costs 1/3 to 1/5 of the price of the Apple.
Do you have a link to one you would recommend? Would love to check it out. Also, do you happen to know at what resolution it runs Zwift and fps?
The asrock desk mini x300 with 5series chip will destroy the apple in gaming and expressly zwift. It will have better resolution, frame rate, more in world items,details and shadows. You are incorrect. Zwift has refused to optimize for Apple from day one. I have several machines and the PCs have much more of everything and can hit whatever frame rate my graphics can handle. Apple still limited to 60 actual fps and minimal in game details. The asrock desk mini with 4650 g will smoke the apple m4 in zwift. Now what would I buy having both? The m4 mini because of all else it can do.
Do you have a link to a complete system?
Five hundred bucks and it won't even run "Ultra" profile.... That's a crappy downgrade from my $40 Acer Veriton M2631G with $12 SSD and just a GTX1050Ti at 60 bucks which will run Ultra.... It's analogous to someone telling you MP3 sounds better than FLAC.... Sounds like you got paid to push this lol
Just no!
Why spend all that money on extra-nice graphics? It's pointless. It's way too expensive to use it just for Zwift. The NiPoGi AM16 Mini PC ΑΜD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U or similar, is way cheaper and perfectly fine.