Oh--- my---- god---- I don't know why I'm seeing this beauty in late but i'm just speechless--! Your animation is really INCREDIBLE! You drew Scoundrel very well! Thank you for using my boii, it's made my day haha Lot of support for you 💪✨
I love how Epic goes around the multiverse fighting and wooping bad sanses and don't changing the mood at any point. Btw those epic blasters look fire!
I have not seen scoundrel around much lately, the council believes epic will prevail, like usual. However I believe other wise. Also thank you NEC for hosting another battle! So far the multi verse seems to love watching powerful beings duke it out. So I thank you on behalf of the council.
Well epic has the ability to absorb and opponents magic attacks, He has the “power of bruh and anime” technique, And he literally has unlimited magic and hp
Epic slicing through Scoundrel's blaster at 1:34 is actually accurate. The human skull is very well designed. An average adult skull can withstand up to 2,300N of force before it gives in to pressure, seeing as a gaster blaster is some sort of skull like device, I'm sure Epic could do the same if he applied at least 4,000N amount of force to be able to cut through a gaster blaster so quickly. Especially if his rubber chicken was made of nitrile or latex.
@@raddledfluffy6077 Yep, as Fred Max stated I am a nerd in some aspects, but i just like doing stuff like this seeing the results is just cool and unexpected sometimes.
Always put it in your mind that Nec's animation is always EPIC BRUH. He never fails to impress us with every of his animations. Also good thing to see scoundrel back.
this is a true masterpiece, you can really see nec's improvement and very detailed animation, very good, very good, it shows how powerful rubber chicken is, and very wholesome ending, 9/10, because Scoundrel should have used a rubber chicken (good animation bruh)
The quality and epicness of these animations just keep getting better! I remember your animations from way back like lastbreath sans vs error sans, the Quality really increased from back then. Keep improving!
0:12 That is a cold shot 0:47 Dude, you make Scoundrel look so cool! 0:50 Ok there are too many of these amazing shots; I can't get all of them so I'm just going to stop now XD
bro what an animation 10/10 this is so amazing you deserve everything you got because you know how to make a good undertale AU's animation and i hope you have a lot more and more success in the future and keep up the good work and i would like to do a request you could do it here (storyshift sans vs horror sans or dust sans) i would love to know how this fight would go and i hope you like my ideas. =D
After this all this lore video we finally have a new fight and it's a very good fight (the animation, the characters and other thing, I really like so bruh you are the best)
Wow dude! That was complicated! And insanely detailed. It was also a resistance phase for Scroundel Sans and also cool fight! Keep on the good work Nec! Just can't wait for the next battle! The universe seems to love your animations! Plus, you're the best Sans animator I've ever seen. And perhaps one of the best Sans animators. Btw Scroundel Sans at the end be like: ...are you dum-
epic sans wins he takes the power out of the memes and breaks it but seriously epic is stronger but the other more resistant I would say that he wins the power not in resistance
@@coal8895 epic is stronger but he doesn't beat him in resistance, it's just in that but in himself epic wins and destroys him but if he spoke who can withstand more blows because epic can't take more than him but he beats him in skill power rapids etc
@@gabrielmoreno5315 explain how epic can't win in resistance considering epic is immortal unless his eye is destroyed, in which only epic gaster can destroy his eye
Scoundrel vs Epic, another battle of purple eyes! Cool to see Scoundrel be recognized. Anyway, here’s my analysis: Scoundrel is from MalfraTale, an AU without any legends involving a human. Bullies like Nick murdered Malfra!Papyrus and Scoundrel’s girlfriend Tsukitchi. Scoundrel was bullied for years so he fought back, killing everybody, even murdering Nick and Malfra!Undyne, who felt the justice to stop him. Due to how his AU is, Scoundrel wouldn’t be LV20. Nightmare came to recruit him, and he had a fight with Killer. Got a few hits in, but that’s it. The only notable thing we know about Scoundrel is that he has a bat and 40 hp. This makes him the second variant I know to use a bat as a weapon, the other being Fresh. Epic has 99 hp, atk, and def. He has Sans stuff, but much more enhanced. He can combine 3 blasters for a stronger attack. He can use telekinesis on anything with his blue magic, not just souls. He has absorption hands, which can absorb and reflect magical attacks as long as they aren’t too strong. He has other abilities too, but he prefers Sans stuff. He has a rubber chicken which is as strong as a knife. He has the purple eye. This eye prevents his hp from reaching 0 because of an attack. It also heals any bodily damage dealt. He has 20 years of experience because of his nightmares. He and Killer are practically equal in general strength, but Epic has the slight edge because he’s more invulnerable. Epic wins easily. This isn’t even from a matter of gimmicks like with Epic vs Killer and how Killer can’t kill him, but even stats. Since Scoundrel isn’t LV20, he likely doesn’t have more than 30 def and any more atk Epic would have with the chicken equipped. He has no ways of killing Epic. The one thing he does have over Epic is reset priority, since Epic doesn’t have DT. The Epic Bruh squad defeats the Scoundrel Malfrats! Finally got to watch the animation. Glad you didn’t try to make it a cliffhanger when the victor is impressively obvious. Epic’s jokes keep getting better and better in your videos! He’s kinda feeling like Deadpool.
@@Sean-qg3gg also wtf is that name « mafratale »😂😂😂😂 This is comparable to dirtytale in term of name Also yea epic blasters literally make nukes there is no debate
///Battle_Analysis/// Scoundrel sans : He is known for not being a quitter when it comes to battling, his soul may shift from a regular monster soul to Hate, giving him the ability to tank up a lot of attacks along with his already high LV. As if this isn't enough, he is known to be able to take on the Murder time trio on his own which shows great potential. Epic sans : He possesses a purple eye, which, in his universe, ables him to prevent himself from dying due to it's regenerating abilities, similar to Scoundrel's potential of taking on a lot of attacks and relying on Hate. However, this Sans does not possess the edge on Level of violence like Scoundrel. Other than that Epic sans may struggle against sanses like Dust or Killer sans. The only way for Epic to compensate for the outmatch is to rely on his ability to absorb and stock energy. Conclusion : Due to Scoundrel and Epic sans's regenerative abilities, this match would result into a tie. But if this was a current death match, Scoundrel would have the highest chance to win.
Alot of that is inaccurate Epic defeated a Hate Chara with low difficulty and this was before he even had his eye💀 dude was destroying the whole kingdom just with his bones alone his Blasters were Overkill💀 LV doesn't always matter, look at some like Dream he has no LV but he still solos Killer who does. Dust would get stomped by Epic all Dust is is just a LV 20 Classic with sharp bones, skill and experience, can create weapons out of his own bones, has a bit of DT to remember resets and can throw hands and most of these things Epic can already do without any LV. Also where did you get that Scoundrel can beat the MTT??? He gets clapped by all of them. Also link me the source for that Hate soul part.
@@user153xhzbso8e he defeated chara WITH eye, also you're talking about 2018 epic and there's new, past reboot epic who became not so strong and lost a bit off destructive power but got immorality. I mean that's not that imba man that was talking punch of a God.
ok this was clean the beginning alone was epic I rewind just that like 5 times. We got to see epic move at a quick pace with a "My Turn" was really nice. I also like how menacing the blasters look from both epic and scoundrel. Scoundrel tackling epic with his bat and sharp bones. Your animation is as spectacular as always putting this in my top favorites love the fourth wall breaks.
Epic have a reaaaally big heart. He can't just kill with no reason) Respect for him! And I like that you added Scoundrel, cuz a lot of people waited him in the Villian sans squad. Animation as always of the highest quality!
Wow nice scoundrel sans really needed some recognition its cool you puted him fight and the red megalovania remix fits so good i was waiting u use it eventually also ive seen you really passed the limits with animating this time its looking real good
The quality on this got guts! Waiting for the Meme lord to fight against A meme god is finally here. This battle with those two makes everything fire and amazing as always! A interesting matchup
Oh--- my---- god----
I don't know why I'm seeing this beauty in late but i'm just speechless--!
Your animation is really INCREDIBLE! You drew Scoundrel very well!
Thank you for using my boii, it's made my day haha
Lot of support for you 💪✨
First,
9th like and 2nd comment
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Pinned, yet no one comments on this.
4th comment and indeed it has
Scoundrel: Ah damnit, i can't appear in The Villain Sans Squad again...
Nec: Don't worry, you'll get to appear in this battle
Actually true since it was a shame i would have seen him in battle but oh well this one is better
Villain sans squad is actually dead
@@atychi_GD i can clearly know that from his channel announcement
@@Keiwa_Sakurai i mean its True,its dead
@@quandaledingle1223 i still dont get on why he would canceled the most hype series to date
mans rubber chicken is sharp enough to tear through a whole reddit argument
XD
lol
Nah the rubber chicken can cut a discord mod
It's not because it's sharp, it's because of the Epic's massive strength
@@JoaoNinguem8420 wonder why that rubber chicken is still standing
I really like how Epic is aware that he's being animated and that thousands of people are watching them fight
Epic breaks the 4th wall
@@Ifinallybeatmastermodeftwyey just like fresh sans
@@benjlancionofficial5150 fax
That's why hes Epic
@@benjlancionofficial5150 Fresh knows about the "fresh" technology heh.
This animation is truly *epic!* Love the quality!
oh no way emerson saw tis- hope 'yer inspired by dud nec is amazing at this-
haha, *epic!*
I love pointing out the obvious, don’t mind me…
OOOOO!
I have an idea. What about u, Nec and Revolver make an animation togheter! Now THAT would be *PERFECT*
@@AttemptingHuman Nec and revolver animate two different aspects of sanses but ok
You are forgetting your own 404's wisdom. "be extremely subtle"
They could have ask “How can Scoundrel kill Epic?”
But they could never ask “How is Epic?”
Epic is mentally broken but he's k
he is just epic
And depressed but that's boring.
Hey! you are the guy without perception! Hello again 😃
@@felipovisk972 the hell do you mean?
You just saw my comment
A meme god vs. a, previously, meme lord, an interesting matchup
Fr
Scoundrel was a meme lord?
@@myxd_idrxp1936 Epic was, I only realized afterwards that this scoundrel sans is a seperate person from the person I was thinking of
you should edit it to edge lord instead
@@MemeLordLeThird oh
I love how Epic goes around the multiverse fighting and wooping bad sanses and don't changing the mood at any point.
Btw those epic blasters look fire!
Finally, our boy Scoundrel.
HE FINALLY GETS SCREENTIME
I have not seen scoundrel around much lately, the council believes epic will prevail, like usual. However I believe other wise. Also thank you NEC for hosting another battle! So far the multi verse seems to love watching powerful beings duke it out. So I thank you on behalf of the council.
Based on most of the battles, it's prolly gonna be a tie
yeah✌
yoo
Well epic has the ability to absorb and opponents magic attacks, He has the “power of bruh and anime” technique, And he literally has unlimited magic and hp
However if an opponent is to powerful they can kill him
Oh my God! IT'S Scoundrel! Who else can we see here?! Insanity? DustDust? It's too cool that the skull explodes!
A purple scoundrel vs a purple meme. They said the perfect matchup didn’t exist.
Agree!
Aka lean
Perfect duo. (If they were friends lol)
Edge lord (scroudrel) vs meme lord (epic) what a matchup
Epic slicing through Scoundrel's blaster at 1:34 is actually accurate. The human skull is very well designed. An average adult skull can withstand up to 2,300N of force before it gives in to pressure, seeing as a gaster blaster is some sort of skull like device, I'm sure Epic could do the same if he applied at least 4,000N amount of force to be able to cut through a gaster blaster so quickly. Especially if his rubber chicken was made of nitrile or latex.
Also amazing animation as usual Nec >:3 👍
Nerd
@@fredmax9796 Wow, how mature.
You seriously had to calculate all that💀
@@raddledfluffy6077 Yep, as Fred Max stated I am a nerd in some aspects, but i just like doing stuff like this seeing the results is just cool and unexpected sometimes.
it sad , villain sans squad closed and we dont see scoundrel fights on high level.But Nec good at this too))
A fight that happened bc someone stole someone's drip.
This is how Epic would start every fight
The fight started bc scoundrel threw bones up out of the floor
@@NotorietySans no he fought cuz he was going to his space so epic started it
@@zhannonrosskleinsantos9731 well yeah ig
Fantastic, Scoundrel getting some nice needed attention, can't wait for this, BRUH-tastic Battle!
Good pun
@@foxriver7222 Heh thx
Bruh
bruh i MIST the premiered
Always put it in your mind that Nec's animation is always EPIC BRUH. He never fails to impress us with every of his animations. Also good thing to see scoundrel back.
I watched it and this was *E-PIC!!!* Your Animator's skills are getting better and better! Keep it up!
Also Epic doing Gojo's pose! XD
Nice, Im hyped to see whats instore for this battle
The fact that your 14 and your this good at animating is amazing. I must say I can relate as I'm also going into high school. So I wish you luck.
SCOUNDREL GETS SOME SCREEN TIME I AM FUCKING HYPED FOR THIS A abakkbsbal
*explodes*
Can’t wait nec I’m so excited to see how much you have improved
I got to know Scoundrel not too long ago and honestly I'm really hyped for this
this is a true masterpiece, you can really see nec's improvement and very detailed animation, very good, very good, it shows how powerful rubber chicken is, and very wholesome ending, 9/10, because Scoundrel should have used a rubber chicken
(good animation bruh)
The quality and epicness of these animations just keep getting better!
I remember your animations from way back like lastbreath sans vs error sans, the Quality really increased from back then.
Keep improving!
0:12 That is a cold shot
0:47 Dude, you make Scoundrel look so cool!
0:50 Ok there are too many of these amazing shots; I can't get all of them so I'm just going to stop now XD
You have improved so much the fight itself is a masterpiece every video you make is better than the last one
I like Epic just trying to get friends to Scoundel Sans, after Epic Defeated Scoundel Sans and Scoundel just missundertanding Epic Sans
I like these because this is probably the highest quality videos I’ve ever seen
THE GROWTH!!!!!!! Oh my god this is fantastic!! I love seeing the development in your skill and style!! Can't wait for the next!
I swear, every time I think this guy can't one-up himself, he just goes and does it anyway
This was literally insanely good. Great job with the animation bro👍 You are so good it’s INSANE
Some ultra mega "Lore Man" ™ tell me about this guy, I know nothing about him except for fact that he was in Shattered's team in Yamato's series.
his power of G.B. is likely Dust's, bruh- ¦p
@@MythicalLeafy and that's all?
MORE KNOWLEDGE
AAAAAAA
ruclips.net/video/FRZkQPCOE3U/видео.html
YOOOOOO! IM SO HYPED!!!
THIS GONNA BE AMAZING
YOUR WORK IS INCREDIBLE
🤑🤑🤑🤑
Neck you got so much better , your animations are *AMAZING* , i'ma be honest with ya 2:15 was my *favorite * and *coolest* part of the Video
I haven't watched it on the mountain, but it will definitely be amazing!!!
2:02
it was at this moment he realized he’s in a duel with a skeleton who uses a rubber chicken as a weapon
1:16 Ghoul Reference??
I can't wait since epic is one of my fav Au's (he seems to be one of yours to XD)
this will certainly be interesting
Yooo it’s here I can’t wait to see what goes down
bro what an animation 10/10 this is so amazing you deserve everything you got because you know how to make a good undertale AU's animation and i hope you have a lot more and more success in the future and keep up the good work and i would like to do a request you could do it here (storyshift sans vs horror sans or dust sans) i would love to know how this fight would go and i hope you like my ideas. =D
“HOW DARE YOU STEAL MY DRIP-“
Awesome Line
A bat vs a chicken, who gonna win ( cant wait)
omg the animation is so smooth!! you’re very skilled this is so so cool!!!
And this is exactly why I will strive to stay up all night
Awesome seeing Scoundrel!Sans in a battle. A very *epic* fight!
I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL MY BONES ARE BROKEN, HE'S MY FAVORITE ANIMATOR
Aw
Wait no
Wait don't go that far
Wohoho!Another interesting Sans!)And cool effects,like neon.
YOOO SCOUNDREL VS EPIC LESGOO-
The perfect mashup- I can’t wait to see it btw lol.
DustDust!Sans vs Murder time trio, a normal idea?
Canon or fanon dustdust
Cool!
That was alright taken bucko
I have no words, It's just amazing, good job as always nec!
IM READY FOR THIS GODLY VID
After this all this lore video we finally have a new fight and it's a very good fight (the animation, the characters and other thing, I really like so bruh you are the best)
I already know it will be E-PIC!
And it was!
Your animations are always amazing! And love how epic breaks the forth wall haha, classic sans
If we exclude the immortals and God's Epic! Is probably the strongest Sans in the multiverse, he almost destroyed the whole kingdom just by fighting
The meme god Epic Sans. Nothing can stop him.
Actually the strongest god is sans 69 who can destroy 1000000000000000000 epics just by the thought of him existing 😡😡😡😡😤😤😤😤
I've been waiting for this fight for so long
nec to op he should battle other content creators it would be a legendary battle🔥🔥🔥
Yayyyy scoundrel
Wow dude! That was complicated! And insanely detailed. It was also a resistance phase for Scroundel Sans and also cool fight! Keep on the good work Nec! Just can't wait for the next battle! The universe seems to love your animations! Plus, you're the best Sans animator I've ever seen. And perhaps one of the best Sans animators. Btw Scroundel Sans at the end be like: ...are you dum-
epic sans wins he takes the power out of the memes and breaks it but seriously epic is stronger but the other more resistant I would say that he wins the power not in resistance
Just to clarify, Epic doesn’t actually have meme powers.
@@Sean-qg3gg I said it as a joke
Epic doesn't win in resistance? Epic is unable to die unless his eye is destroyed.
@@coal8895 epic is stronger but he doesn't beat him in resistance, it's just in that but in himself epic wins and destroys him but if he spoke who can withstand more blows because epic can't take more than him but he beats him in skill power rapids etc
@@gabrielmoreno5315 explain how epic can't win in resistance considering epic is immortal unless his eye is destroyed, in which only epic gaster can destroy his eye
It does feel like you keep getting more amazing each time you make a new video!
yessir
Nice animation nec
Yeees.
Amazing as always
Scoundrel vs Epic, another battle of purple eyes! Cool to see Scoundrel be recognized. Anyway, here’s my analysis:
Scoundrel is from MalfraTale, an AU without any legends involving a human. Bullies like Nick murdered Malfra!Papyrus and Scoundrel’s girlfriend Tsukitchi. Scoundrel was bullied for years so he fought back, killing everybody, even murdering Nick and Malfra!Undyne, who felt the justice to stop him. Due to how his AU is, Scoundrel wouldn’t be LV20. Nightmare came to recruit him, and he had a fight with Killer. Got a few hits in, but that’s it. The only notable thing we know about Scoundrel is that he has a bat and 40 hp. This makes him the second variant I know to use a bat as a weapon, the other being Fresh.
Epic has 99 hp, atk, and def. He has Sans stuff, but much more enhanced. He can combine 3 blasters for a stronger attack. He can use telekinesis on anything with his blue magic, not just souls. He has absorption hands, which can absorb and reflect magical attacks as long as they aren’t too strong. He has other abilities too, but he prefers Sans stuff. He has a rubber chicken which is as strong as a knife. He has the purple eye. This eye prevents his hp from reaching 0 because of an attack. It also heals any bodily damage dealt. He has 20 years of experience because of his nightmares. He and Killer are practically equal in general strength, but Epic has the slight edge because he’s more invulnerable.
Epic wins easily. This isn’t even from a matter of gimmicks like with Epic vs Killer and how Killer can’t kill him, but even stats. Since Scoundrel isn’t LV20, he likely doesn’t have more than 30 def and any more atk Epic would have with the chicken equipped. He has no ways of killing Epic. The one thing he does have over Epic is reset priority, since Epic doesn’t have DT. The Epic Bruh squad defeats the Scoundrel Malfrats!
Finally got to watch the animation. Glad you didn’t try to make it a cliffhanger when the victor is impressively obvious. Epic’s jokes keep getting better and better in your videos! He’s kinda feeling like Deadpool.
Totally agree on that,this fight isn’t even a debate,honestly people would be dumb to argue that scoundrel has a chance
What are Scoundrel’ Stats?
@@photo138 Yeah I just realized that Epic would just one-shot Scoundrel, even if Scoundrel had 30 def. He’d have to have 60 def to survive one attack.
@@raddledfluffy6077 The only stat we know is that hp is 40. MalfraTale doesn’t have much info worth analyzing.
@@Sean-qg3gg also wtf is that name « mafratale »😂😂😂😂
This is comparable to dirtytale in term of name
Also yea epic blasters literally make nukes there is no debate
Sheeeeeesh this is epic good job nec!
E
That's pretty damn cool, bro!
///Battle_Analysis///
Scoundrel sans : He is known for not being a quitter when it comes to battling, his soul may shift from a regular monster soul to Hate, giving him the ability to tank up a lot of attacks along with his already high LV. As if this isn't enough, he is known to be able to take on the Murder time trio on his own which shows great potential.
Epic sans : He possesses a purple eye, which, in his universe, ables him to prevent himself from dying due to it's regenerating abilities, similar to Scoundrel's potential of taking on a lot of attacks and relying on Hate. However, this Sans does not possess the edge on Level of violence like Scoundrel. Other than that Epic sans may struggle against sanses like Dust or Killer sans. The only way for Epic to compensate for the outmatch is to rely on his ability to absorb and stock energy.
Conclusion : Due to Scoundrel and Epic sans's regenerative abilities, this match would result into a tie.
But if this was a current death match, Scoundrel would have the highest chance to win.
Alot of that is inaccurate Epic defeated a Hate Chara with low difficulty and this was before he even had his eye💀 dude was destroying the whole kingdom just with his bones alone his Blasters were Overkill💀 LV doesn't always matter, look at some like Dream he has no LV but he still solos Killer who does. Dust would get stomped by Epic all Dust is is just a LV 20 Classic with sharp bones, skill and experience, can create weapons out of his own bones, has a bit of DT to remember resets and can throw hands and most of these things Epic can already do without any LV.
Also where did you get that Scoundrel can beat the MTT??? He gets clapped by all of them.
Also link me the source for that Hate soul part.
@@user153xhzbso8e literally no one can beat epic except for epic!gaster and characters who can erase code
@@ShiftedKazz unless "power levels" moment, I mean, if someone's def is high enough it's a tie
@@СтражПеченек well yeah if someone hp and Def is high enough it would end in a stalemate
@@user153xhzbso8e he defeated chara WITH eye, also you're talking about 2018 epic and there's new, past reboot epic who became not so strong and lost a bit off destructive power but got immorality. I mean that's not that imba man that was talking punch of a God.
ok this was clean the beginning alone was epic I rewind just that like 5 times. We got to see epic move at a quick pace with a "My Turn" was really nice. I also like how menacing the blasters look from both epic and scoundrel. Scoundrel tackling epic with his bat and sharp bones. Your animation is as spectacular as always putting this in my top favorites love the fourth wall breaks.
That was op though
Keep the good work bud! :D
Epic have a reaaaally big heart. He can't just kill with no reason) Respect for him! And I like that you added Scoundrel, cuz a lot of people waited him in the Villian sans squad. Animation as always of the highest quality!
Wow nice scoundrel sans really needed some recognition its cool you puted him fight and the red megalovania remix fits so good i was waiting u use it eventually also ive seen you really passed the limits with animating this time its looking real good
I don't know much abt Scoundrel!Sans, but this fight was amazing. Edit: Also, 2:49 would look great as a wallpaper or poster.
Very interesting fight between Epic and Scoundrel! Great animation :D
This animation was epic in every way possible great job
That's is BRUH ENDING BOYYYY I LIKE IT hope you will keep going to do epic animation
Sup nec DREAMSWAP!INK here 🐸👍
Two poeple that look identical
Ahhh yes the battle of drip
This is very *epic*
I love the beginning
Seriously, what Epic!Sans says is remarkably funny
the animation is really good *bruh!* love it bruh!!
Im not gonna lie, epic sans is always that one guy in those 1v1 games who say gg
I cant wait this is gonna be amazing cause your work is realistic
Messy fight, that's great fight!
Goodluck for next video me and we are will waiting for you hhe
Very nice yes yes
Thanks for the hard work as always
I love how nec gave epic his own custom blaster
Wow, from last “Undertale vs video” you have improved so much
" *Your Going To Have An Epic Time* "
I like animations like this just makes me wanna play it over and over again
omg, purple guy with a chicken weapon vs a guy who plays baseball !!!!!!!!
The quality on this got guts! Waiting for the Meme lord to fight against A meme god is finally here. This battle with those two makes everything fire and amazing as always! A interesting matchup
If draw wolf saw this (creator of scoundrel) she would definitely be amazed by how you draw and animate them so well :)
*Ngl but when Epic brought out the rubber chicken i thought Scoundrel was gonna be like “Why are you fighting with a rubber chicken?”*
I think your animation quality is still improving this is really good