Apostasy Special: A conversation with Daniel Kokotajlo (award-winning ex-JW director)

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @piperatthegates914
    @piperatthegates914 6 лет назад +50

    worst thing for me, was meeting alone at night as a 20 year old, at the the Kingdom Hall with 3 old men wanting me to tell them about all the sexual acts i did. I can vomit in my mouth now thinking anout how I put myself thru that as a young girl.

  • @spartacusmaximus9455
    @spartacusmaximus9455 6 лет назад +101

    I recently woke up... I was an elder and was sicken by my the first and only judicial committee I was assigned to. I stepped down after my child was born and I am currently struggling to save my family from this cult. This film is incredible and reflected so well the cognitive strife that I have gone through. Thank you Lloyd and Daniel for blazing this path. Anything I can do to help I will.

    • @tamarakelli687
      @tamarakelli687 5 лет назад

      I've been studying with them a while now, not baptized. But I haven't experienced anything negative with them. I've been involved in many religions and I love how they encourge me to read the bible myself and come to my own conclusions which, I believe follow closely to how the Jehovah's witnesses around me live.

    • @ajbaz193
      @ajbaz193 5 лет назад +14

      @@tamarakelli687 be careful. You think they encourage you to study the bible, and think for yourself? I was one, and the second I tried to think for myself disagree with anything they said, I saw a very different side to how I was treated whilst just studying. They encourage you to read their publications, NOT the bible. You study one of their books with carefully selected scriptures. You are being 'Love bombed' into a religion that will drop you like a hot brick once you disagree or question anything. The very people who are so very nice and studying with you now, will shun you. Beware!

    • @tamarakelli687
      @tamarakelli687 5 лет назад +2

      @@ajbaz193 I'm sorry that was your experience. I am not an infant, and have studied with many religions. You have fanatical everywhere you go. The most important thing is to study His word and live it. What people think will never compare to what Jehovah thinks. I will never be scared of man. JW knows where I stand and I know where they stand. What I wont do is argue fine details over Jesus because that grieves Him.

    • @tigermint6165
      @tigermint6165 5 лет назад +7

      @@tamarakelli687 I would have said all these things 4 years ago when i first started studying. And i have recently left due to the hypocrisy and double standards that I discovered much further down the line

    • @tamarakelli687
      @tamarakelli687 5 лет назад +1

      @@tigermint6165 You just described every single religion in the world. Do you know why? Because they are made up of humans and humans aren't anything if they're not hypocrites. But to intentionally tear down a religion can effectively stumble many people from God. I wouldn't want that on my shoulders when facing God. Especially a peaceful religion, though humanly fallible.

  • @guillermovilla9517
    @guillermovilla9517 6 лет назад +104

    I saw this over weekend with my wife and kids, as part of our family un-worship night 🙂 and I can honestly say- this film was far more realistic than any of the “real life” experiences we’ve seen at assemblies or conventions. Great film!! The acting was superb.

    • @Onazzz808
      @Onazzz808 6 лет назад +5

      GuillermoVilla my husband who grew up w JW but was never baptized claimed that this was FARRRR from reality. He’s so blind and cannot see when the truth is put right in front of him. I pray so hard one day he wakes and realizes this is a cult his parents are deep into.

    • @guillermovilla9517
      @guillermovilla9517 6 лет назад +3

      Onazzz808 At least he’s not baptized and saw the movie and seems open to outside information. Why was he never baptized?🤔

    • @ravenna8160
      @ravenna8160 6 лет назад +6

      Love this - family un-worship 🤓

    • @guillermovilla9517
      @guillermovilla9517 6 лет назад +5

      Ravenna Dresden There’s a bunch of “uns” with this religion, including un-witnessing, which I did with my family. I individually called some family members and apologized to them and explained why I left. It was sort of an apology tour.

    • @habanero6332
      @habanero6332 6 лет назад +5

      Onazzz808 For me it was exactly like that film portrayed and there is a lot more that I am sure there was not time for. The unbaptised people generally do not experience the full reality of it and so are easily fooled plus once brainwashed into defending it to the hilt or you experience the most horrendous fear and guilt if you don’t. As a former witness who challenged it I have been through all of what went on in this film.

  • @jamieangel3766
    @jamieangel3766 6 лет назад +37

    My non-JW manager told me about Apostasy at work the other day! I told loads of staff about the child safety and blood issues because its a school. Nobody knew the depths of madness. But its brilliant to get support and tips on ex-JW work from non-JWs

  • @pameladoig2286
    @pameladoig2286 6 лет назад +36

    In the U.S. I rented this through Google. I shared the movie trailer on Facebook, praising how accurate the depiction of witnesses was, and my dad unfriended me. The word is out there and I'm sure it's the talk of the town.

    • @melaloco1
      @melaloco1 5 лет назад

      What is the name of the movie
      I want to see it

  • @abeward1265
    @abeward1265 6 лет назад +32

    I was so waiting for this interview! I watched it about a month ago and I got everything from goosebumps to tears to a sick feeling in my stomach. Everything about this movie is so incredibly accurate and genuine. If you are an ex JW being shunned by your friends and family be prepared to have some negative emotions or even anger triggered during this movie. Thanks Lloyd I knew you'd get this interview and you did fantastic!

  • @WitnessForJesus
    @WitnessForJesus 6 лет назад +27

    Daniel clearly has an amazing talent. I just watched the movie on demand. Absolutely OUTSTANDING. I was actually transported back to when I was 18 as a JW. Thank you Daniel.

  • @Cupcakeface-qg4sg
    @Cupcakeface-qg4sg 4 года назад +6

    I stopped watching this video half way through the interview because I was so intrigued by this movie. I just watched the movie and it was amazing. I can’t believe just how spot on it was. I am very newly awakened and still have so many emotions about it. It’s actually thanks to you Lloyd that I awakened after years of being inactive. I still in some ways believed it was the truth but your videos have helped me so much. I went back to your very first video and have just been watching every video you’ve uploaded.

  • @dawnross2514
    @dawnross2514 6 лет назад +9

    One of the reasons I left the religion was because I had a small child and I wanted to protect her from the jw experience. Of course I've told her what it was like for me growing up in it but I really don't think she realises her lucky escape. I'm dying to watch the movie with her (she's also a film maker) so that she will get some insight. I'm so grateful to Daniel for being brave enough to create this, it provides validation for ex witnesses, new info for non witnesses and hopefully an awakening for current witnesses. Thank you Lloyd for doing this interview. Thank goodness for motivated northerners!!!

  • @Onazzz808
    @Onazzz808 6 лет назад +23

    I bought it yesterday with Amazon Prime Membership for $4.99 and you get the movie for a MONTH!! Loved the movie!! I watched it with my husband and 2 kids. Husband grew up as a JW but was never baptized. He claims he’s not a JW anymore, but his beliefs are still held strong as one. He can’t even see it for himself. What a true to life depiction of how JWs think and reason or lack thereof. It brought me to tears in the end when Luisa was done with trying to get reinstated. BRAVO👏🏼👏🏼

    • @Onazzz808
      @Onazzz808 6 лет назад +5

      My husband got so offended and said JWs aren’t like that in real life and “ITS JUST A MOVIE”. I have to disagree about that.

  • @naterobinson5141
    @naterobinson5141 6 лет назад +6

    Yes I saw the movie Apostasy and I loved it, I found it very authentic and how detailed it is in every way to describe and see what it is like to be a Jehovah's Witness and that was the most amazing thing about the film. The hall, the setting of the family featured the reaction of the actors all of it.

  • @debbieoliver9923
    @debbieoliver9923 6 лет назад +11

    What a great interview! Thanks so much Lloyd and Daniel . The care that was shown to make it accurate and still powerful must have taken such skill. I am astounded by his humbleness and his brilliance.

  • @jamieangel3766
    @jamieangel3766 6 лет назад +5

    The movie was excellent! I saw it in Soho. I was too shy to speak to the director afterwards, but he did himself proud by representing everybody fairly and in a true light.

  • @foxymineralmakep
    @foxymineralmakep 6 лет назад +9

    i watched. i never once laughed. but i did cry several times. spot on. amazing actually. it couldn't have been any more perfectly presented both sides equally. it was balanced and showed perfectly both sides of the story. the torment and anguish that a member is put through results in the painful decision to shun. and the same mental torment and anguish of the one leaving. its got to be stopped. down with the tower.

  • @SusanGaskin
    @SusanGaskin 6 лет назад +30

    That was so interesting to hear Daniel's background. I'm very much looking forward to watching his movie!

    • @jackthomas6952
      @jackthomas6952 6 лет назад +3

      Susan Gaskin It’s amazing I saw it last night, I saw no fallacies or exaggerations at all.

  • @mrswonderful4880
    @mrswonderful4880 6 лет назад +19

    Just watched it. Maybe I am too mentally fresh out of this organization but it brought out so many raw emotions. The committee meeting...been through that. Spot on! They know our hearts. I didn't laugh but maybe if I were to watch it with others I may have laughed if they did. Glad to be free of this madness. Stopped going in 2004 but still felt guilt...with your help and that of others I no longer feel guilt but sadness for those who still believe this indoctrination. Thank you.

    • @lindaollerenshaw537
      @lindaollerenshaw537 5 лет назад +1

      Dear Llolyd I got married in 1987 and my husband announced he was a JW after we came off our honeymoon! I said why didn’t you tell me? He said you might not have married me! I told him he was dishonest because I would not have married him! He told me I could not see my best friend anymore as I had to do as he said! I said **** off!!! and went to see my best friend!! My dad only lived a 10
      minute walk away and he used to scream and cry behind me! He then arranged bible studies for me (without me knowing) Hence I soon left him he said I didn’t need my friends and family and I had to do as he told me! I watch all your videos and am so happy I disobeyed him! I never had sex with him either because he couldn’t do it he said! Thank you for your talks as I have been happy since I left him 22 years ago. You are a real treasure xxx

    • @lindaollerenshaw537
      @lindaollerenshaw537 5 лет назад

      Thanks Linda O

    • @dancingnature
      @dancingnature 3 года назад

      Wow glad you weren’t intimidated by that jerk and had enough sense to leave .

  • @mulanrouge89
    @mulanrouge89 6 лет назад +7

    I just watched in amazon. I went back in time. The family, the elders, the brothers and sisters. I felt it helped my healing and the bitterness I feel. I kinda feel sorry for the ones that are still blindly indoctrinated. So thank you Daniel so much for making this film!

  • @merylbarnes2770
    @merylbarnes2770 6 лет назад +58

    I'm so excited that film makers are turning attention to telling what a horrible cult this really is. I hope it wakes some JWs up. I hope there are more films like this.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 6 лет назад +1

      Meryl Barnes They won't see it.

    • @merylbarnes2770
      @merylbarnes2770 6 лет назад +2

      Anon B don't be so sure. I was curious about these kinds of things. Anything in the media about JWs got my attention. Therefore I woke up.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 6 лет назад +2

      Meryl Barnes I suspect if you're watching such things you have one foot out the door anyway... I have an LDS background so am kinda familiar with some of the mentality.
      (I do feel there is a lot of rubbish about the JWs - not this film btw - out there which picks on them as a group which would probably have the opposite effect on them. This film has a ring of authenticity AFAIK, but they aren't to know that.)

  • @endlessorbaggins8223
    @endlessorbaggins8223 6 лет назад +9

    Wow! Great interview. I can't believe you managed to encounter the director and do this video on a matter of actuality. Great initiative from your part. Thank you for this!

  • @1chadmon
    @1chadmon 6 лет назад +10

    I just watched the movie. It is INCREDIBLY well written, well acted, and realistic. I hope this opens the eyes of people to what the cult really is and really does. This is a heart wrenching story, and it is playing out all over the world where there are “Faithful Jehovah’s Witnesses”. I was in tears more than once watching it. Absolutely incredible!!! Thank you Lloyd for your video on this and bringing attention to it. I am still reeling.

    • @craigackroyd
      @craigackroyd 5 лет назад

      Monica Owens you are reeling over this?
      All religion is disgusting. And shame on you if you are part of it.
      What about the priests that abuse young children. What about gay people who are killed, Saudi Arabia and Iran to mention a few.
      What about apostasy in Islam. Religious war?
      You’ve lived a very sheltered life if this is all that worries you!

  • @Stricknyne1
    @Stricknyne1 2 года назад +1

    Just watched this last evening. It is he best portrayal of the witnesses I have ever seen. I drifted out in the 80s, no internet and no ex-JW community at that time. This is exactly the way I grew up. Although I faded, it took years to mentally be free of it. Congratulations on such a fantastic and honest film. Much thanks!

  • @ochiful4070
    @ochiful4070 6 лет назад +12

    I went to the cinema to watch Apostasy yesterday. This is an amazing film, the accolades are well deserved. I’m not a JW and never have been so this film enabled me to fully understand the JW mindset (which is astounding!). One thing that I’ve always noticed with JWs is the look in their eyes when I’m talking to them. They take on a sort of glazed, slightly wild desperate look when I ask a question that challenges them, the actors in the film took on that look perfectly! lm glad that it was not an angry, judgemental expose of the JWs as I really hope practicing JW will look at it and possibly wake up. Well done Daniel👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @lynngardner3330
    @lynngardner3330 6 лет назад +8

    So happy you conducted this interview, it will certainly get even more attention now. Can’t wait to watch the movie.

  • @joedingey2039
    @joedingey2039 6 лет назад +25

    Bought it and watched it last night. Well-made, brought back a lot of uncomfortable memories.

  • @stpdncr
    @stpdncr 3 года назад +2

    The scene when the mother runs to the restroom after hearing that talk that obviously struck a nerve and in need of a moment alone but can’t get away from it because they have speakers blaring it through the restroom...that made my heart break.
    I left 15 years ago and never looked back but I lost a lot. Watching this was cathartic.
    Oh and yes and JW’s know how to have a goodtime. I remember going to numerous house dance and karaoke parties. Old and young there, with food AND drink 🍹 You gotta let loose sometimes.

  • @medicmaniac2290
    @medicmaniac2290 6 лет назад +11

    Just watched this over on twitter and really enjoyed this interview. I used to go over to Manchester for the circuit assembleys before Hellaby was built.
    Looking forward to go and see Apostasy soon.
    Getting into the JW mindset to make a film would definitely make me physichally and mentally ill for real.. hoping that seeing this film wont make me ill but i'll be taking my daughter who I raised witness free as i'd got the heck out by the time I became a dad.
    Once again, thanks to all (and I do mean all) involved in the making of this film.. a watershed moment for sure.
    Great interview guys!

  • @catht9653
    @catht9653 6 лет назад +4

    Because of this video, I went on Amazon(?) and rented Apostasy. It was beautifully done, and I want you to know that it is really haunting me. I'm at work right now and I feel like I need to go back and watch it again -- the mood of it has stayed with me more than anything. I also want to say that I was really shocked by the plot -- I won't say how, because I hate spoilers. I actually was afraid you'd give spoilers, so I stopped watching this video and went and rented it, and then went back to watch this one with you.

  • @lulukinyozibeauty5628
    @lulukinyozibeauty5628 6 лет назад +21

    A very telling accurate movie. I felt as if the actors and actresses played their roles so genuinely. It was a little scary having a Birdseye view of your exact experience.Definitely deserving of an award.

  • @dawnnmackey
    @dawnnmackey 6 лет назад +27

    I watched the film about 2 weeks ago. It was fantastic! It was like watching real Witnesses! I also wondered how they pulled that off.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 6 лет назад +1

      dawnnmackey Decent acting. Not the usual hysterics found on soaps and in Hollywood.

  • @whosdunit
    @whosdunit 6 лет назад +4

    Great Interview, as an Ex-JW i am claiming the award on behalf of all of us, so proud of Daniel.

  • @konspiracykid
    @konspiracykid 6 лет назад +10

    I saw the film on Saturday in Manchester. I took a friend and my gf (both non-JWs). I was nervous at first and truth be told (no pun intended) I cringed my way through most of it. It was accurate in every detail and very moving too with great performances from the cast. I'm from North Manchester so many of the locations were familiar and suitably grim! Great channel Cedars and hats off to the film makers, crew and cast

    • @konspiracykid
      @konspiracykid 6 лет назад

      Cedars.. As a child I worked on some quick builds in the North Manchester area, including the KH used in the film!

  • @rajanogray9088
    @rajanogray9088 6 лет назад +20

    I can't wait to see this film! Thanks for interviewing this fascinating director!

  • @davidwicklin9943
    @davidwicklin9943 6 лет назад +2

    Thank you Daniel and Lloyd! Really wonderful conveyance in outlaying the mindsets and mentality of Jehovah's Witnesses, and from both sides, to educate the public that may be unawares and to siphon the thought processes and many different emotions and triggers that affect JW's. I've seen both sides of the equation growing up a non-JW, coming into the org in 1992 at 20 as my Mother died of lymphoma cancer and really took it seriously with "the generation of 1914" near it's end as I twice served as a ministerial servant and accounts servant to giving some public talks late 1990s and early to mid-2000s. Now having woken up, 46 years old, faded and divorced, it's cathartic and therapeutic to reflect on this with a movie like "Apostasy" making the rounds and I can utilize this in "UnWitnessing" to other JW's and non-JW's.
    Very apropos and a good deed to have this interview and movie release in conjunction with the weekend after "Watchtower Victims Memorial Day".
    Best Regards from Wisconsin, USA - Dave

  • @1chadmon
    @1chadmon 6 лет назад +9

    I found it on Amazon Prime, you can rent or purchase...for those that are looking for it.

  • @rodywithers3536
    @rodywithers3536 6 лет назад +3

    Lloyd, first class interview of Daniel. Thorough and respectful. Clear that you and Daniel have a deep knowledge and appreciation of how JWs think and act from personal experience. Oh, and your love of and high regard for film-making shines through, Lloyd.

  • @ArtfullyMusingLaura
    @ArtfullyMusingLaura 6 лет назад +5

    Thank you for this interview. I'm going to rent it from Amazon this week and will tell others. I think you have a real gift for interviewing people I always enjoy them.

  • @sinemetu9037
    @sinemetu9037 5 лет назад +1

    Superb interview about a superb film. From an ex elders point of view I found it to be virtually flawless. This is exactly how it is and for me it was an extremely emotional film. Thankfully, I am happy to say that I was not involved in disfellowshipping anyone. I know others that struggle now with the decisions they came to while serving as elders. Thanks Daniel and thank you Lloyd.

  • @saffronhammer7714
    @saffronhammer7714 6 лет назад +27

    An excellent and accurate film. My story could have turned out this way: I really could have been this mother--or either daughter. I am so incredibly lucky to be out, awake, and free.
    P.S. I didn't laugh. But I will have to watch it again. Some things are so bizarre, painful, and dreadful, all one can do is to laugh to maintain one's sanity.

  • @ShoNuffSoulBro1
    @ShoNuffSoulBro1 5 лет назад +3

    This just popped up on my AMAZON PRIME video “new” list last night (Feb 13th 2019). Oh my God, my jaw dropped open in surprise ! Can’t wait to see it.

  • @andromedav.884
    @andromedav.884 5 лет назад +2

    “I can’t believe that I used to say things like that “ ...I can totally relate! .Not ex JW , here, but ex Mainstream American Evangelical. Not as “culty” but STILL some major dogma that I CRINGE at the thought that I once believed and people STILL believe.
    I still love the pure message of the Christ which is pretty universal “Love your neighbor as yourself” . What I cannot support is the jealous, psychotic , murdering god of the O.T. Also, the inhumanity of getting behind a god who demands blood sacrifice and would send his “children” to everlasting suffering in “Hell”.
    People need a way out of the Fear, Control, Guilt Matrix that is Abrahamic, organized religions. They actually take AWAY from true spirituality based on unconditional love.
    Can’t wait to see this film!Thank you! ✨💚✨

  • @simonsmith2419
    @simonsmith2419 6 лет назад +7

    Lloyd, thanks for the interview and bringing this film to my attention. I've downloaded from Amazon Prime and will be watching it on Sunday. The trailer looks like an uncannily realistic portrayal of Witness life.

  • @yummymummy63
    @yummymummy63 6 лет назад +5

    A really interesting interview thanks Lloyd. I look forward to seeing the film as an ex JW and hope it helps wake others up or help anyone who has been hurt in the past by the organisation. Hope you enjoy your time in the UK.

  • @720reddog
    @720reddog 6 лет назад +29

    This religion needs to be exposed in every way possible. It has destroyed many lives with it's practices. I am glad to see that we live now in a time that through the internet and media available that it's being exposed. I appreciate all those who approach this belief and say it's wrong and we cannot stand for it any longer.

  • @mamabear8555
    @mamabear8555 6 лет назад +12

    AWESOME MOVIE!!!! Love love LOVED IT! It gave me goosebumps.The way they acted, talked...spot on!

  • @truetruthsearch4536
    @truetruthsearch4536 6 лет назад +19

    SPOILER ALERT. Unfortunately you could show this movie at a convention and every Jehovah's Witnesses in there will clap and say how courageous the girl was for not taking blood.it's really sad

    • @KYBLopez96
      @KYBLopez96 6 лет назад +1

      true truth search i agree. And how faithful the mum is for standing strong and not associating with the daughter. Kmt

    • @truetruthsearch4536
      @truetruthsearch4536 6 лет назад +2

      Karen Lopez LOL also did you see how the pregnant girl was talking to the elders. This is what happens when you leave jehovah's organization YOU GET POSSESSED BY DEMONS. LOL it's sad

    • @TheCookiecupcakes
      @TheCookiecupcakes 6 лет назад

      *Spoiler alert* might be good to put at the beginning of your comment.

    • @KYBLopez96
      @KYBLopez96 6 лет назад

      It does lol

  • @heidikelly3160
    @heidikelly3160 6 лет назад +3

    I was able to rent it through youtube. I thought this film was true to form. I was amazed how neutral this movie stayed. Focusing on the feelings of the people rather then painting one as right and one as wrong. I was happily surprised and glad that it was done this way. I do have to say that later that night I suffered a little PTSD. My anxiety was through the roof and I was doing what I could not to suffer a panic attack. It brought up a lot of feelings of frustration and anger due to how ridiculous it is that these men are deciding if you are sorry enough. One thing was not touch on, that would have affected the neutrality of this film, was the type of questions the elders use when someone has committed fornication. It is extremely inappropriate and feels like you are being violated. I was never disfellowshipped, only reproved, as I was engaged to be married, and it was us who went to the elders. That being said it was amazing how he captured the attitude of the elders. I give this film 5 stars!

  • @lindalawton5399
    @lindalawton5399 6 лет назад +11

    Great job on the two of you meeting up, now we need to get you an interview with Leah Remini - Dan!

  • @michaellee5730
    @michaellee5730 6 лет назад +4

    Outstanding, watched it last night, an incredible piece of work. Great interview Lloyd, thank you.

  • @magelstoo
    @magelstoo 6 лет назад +11

    Hopefully he does make that documentary on Jehovah’s Witnesses. The more exposure this Cult gets the better. This religion needs to be exposed for the evil thing that it is, and how it’s evil arms have choked the life out of so many innocent people who were just looking for the truth. Thankfully we have the Internet now. All those who remain in this cult are truly ignorant. The word ignorant as the root word of ignore. They are not stupid, they just ignore the truth that is easily found at our finger tips in the days we live in.

    • @dylantco4810
      @dylantco4810 6 лет назад

      magelstoo you do realise that everyone has the choice to be a jw... They haven't been "dragged into it". Everyone has a choice

    • @magelstoo
      @magelstoo 6 лет назад +6

      TheChosenOne Why do you place quotation marks around the phrase “dragged into it “? I did not write those words. My issue is more that one cannot leave this CULT without losing their whole family and all the friends they have made. The CULT through their brainwashing techniques are holding them captive and they don’t even know it

    • @pg-jq7ws
      @pg-jq7ws 6 лет назад +6

      "everyone has the choice to be a jw". No, they don't. Young ones especially are guilt-tripped constantly through parents, other JW's, elders, the weekly talks and literature. Technically you can have the choice to leave, but it the repercussions are abusive and manipulative. The fact that you said "everyone has a choice", just shows how blind you are and your adding to the manipulative tactics by the JW's.

    • @FluWorldOrder
      @FluWorldOrder 6 лет назад +1

      ENTICED BY LOVE-BOMBING?

  • @jillmcmillin7288
    @jillmcmillin7288 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you for bringing awareness to this. Watched the Movie last night. Wow! Gut wrenchingly, beautufully tragic and true. I have a mom standing by those carts. I cried watching Ivanna go against everything in her nature to do what the organization and it's barbaric rules demanded of her.
    I wonder if my own mom, as she stands there so crushed and crumbled by all the loss, does she reflect on having sacraficed me and my 2 beautiful children to stay loyal to a governing body.
    I knew this would be a tough watch, but I am so grateful to Daniel Kokotajlo and the other people involved in bringing this story to life in such a realistic and honest way for the public forum. I have no doubt that it will save many from getting involved with this cult, and hopefully will help the many JWs who are fighting logic and pushing down doubt to wake up to what's really going on in the Watchtower.
    Thank you for such a poignant touching portrayal. Thank you, thank you! Bravo!
    my own story: www.amazon.com/Freewill-Jill-McMillin-ebook/dp/B07CQB447W/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1524882077&sr=1-1

  • @vanoramoon674
    @vanoramoon674 6 лет назад +8

    Thanks for the interview to you Lloyd and Daniel. We are so excited to see the film and hoping JW's will want to see it too. Maybe viewing in secret through Amazon. It would be so wonderful if it would reach the JW's too.

  • @kiefersunderland2297
    @kiefersunderland2297 6 лет назад +7

    Great to meet you Monday night at the Newcastle screening Daniel. A remarkable film. Thank you

    • @maebee23
      @maebee23 6 лет назад

      Kiefer Sunderland I'm gutted I missed that!! Is Tyneside cinema showing it?
      Edit: never mind, it is and I'm going! I'm taking my best friend who was never a jw. Is it weird that I'm nervous for her to see the cult in all its glory? I mean I've told her but watching it must be mind blowing

  • @beachmom2001
    @beachmom2001 6 лет назад +2

    Just noticed Apostasy is available for viewing on Amazon Prime videos. I'm going to spend my Sunday afternoon watching this movie. I can't wait!

  • @eviefriend4534
    @eviefriend4534 6 лет назад +6

    I enjoyed the film very much. I cried. I must watch it again all by myself this time.

  • @georgeorwell1595
    @georgeorwell1595 6 лет назад +8

    What a cool dude this Daniel *Kokotajlo* :-) ! Thank you for this wonderful movie.

  • @tystovall9422
    @tystovall9422 5 лет назад +1

    I appreciated the balanced view that he took as a director. It is not a movie that paints the org in a negative light or a positive light. It very plainly shows a clip of what life is like. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. The truth is relative. Very good movie. I am an inactive-baptized JW. I have seen too much over the years & recently with my fathers death saw hypocrisy & cult mentality at its highest point.

  • @carolineofscots
    @carolineofscots 5 лет назад +1

    Id love to see Daniel do more on this subject. I grew up as a JW and what was special abut this film was those little things you dealt with as a witness. Like people calling you a Jehovah lol and you having to explain that wasn't the correct terminology. I can recall saying a lot of the things that were said in the film, like explaining the history behind the cross etc. It was a strange experience to watch it, my brother said it had an odd effect on him. Our family left the Truth when I was about 13 when our family moved away for work and we left our congregation. I don't have any bad memories of it and our congregation was full of lovely kind people. I know though that's not everyones experience.

  • @teaandsympathy5735
    @teaandsympathy5735 6 лет назад +8

    Bought my tickets will be watching in a Bristol cinema, can't wait, Thank you! X

  • @greatdayn4651
    @greatdayn4651 6 лет назад +14

    Great interview. Thank you for sharing.

  • @MrEricirene
    @MrEricirene 6 лет назад +2

    Truly an amazing film. Big thanks to Daniel for taking on this project. I do hope that some JWs are curious enough to watch this. Sometimes you don’t realize how horrible something you’re doing or believe in is until you see it played out in front of you. Amazing stuff.

  • @jwnomore2488
    @jwnomore2488 6 лет назад +3

    Great Movie.. I rented it a couple of weeks ago on Amazon. It really felt like I was back in my childhood as a JW. Great Job capturing this life.

  • @1chadmon
    @1chadmon 6 лет назад +10

    Awesome! Will check out the film immediately ☺️. Thanks for posting!

  • @daniellao3324
    @daniellao3324 6 лет назад +4

    Would never have known about this film if not for you. Just booked my tickets for tonight in Glasgow. Many thanks for sharing.

  • @TigerPrawn_
    @TigerPrawn_ 3 года назад

    What a great interview. And what a great film. So frustrating to see people in such a toxic environment, but you can't help but sympathise with them on a human level. The tears were pouring on both sides of the screen.

  • @mattlunetta490
    @mattlunetta490 4 года назад +2

    I am 44 yrs old and was raised as a JW. I was disfellowshipped at 27 when I got my girlfriend pregnant and remained df for 10+ yrs until I caved into my loneliness and wanting to associate with my family. I was reinstated and soon realized how miserable I was because I had these ppl poking around in my private life trying to find out whether I was walking the straight line or not. I stopped attending mtgs more than 2 yrs ago and have no intention of ever returning. I'm just waiting to have an elder stop by and tell me that I'll be disfellowshipped again. It's just so tiresome being this age and still feeling guilty to live the way I choose. I am honestly afraid to date because I know that it will lead to another exile. So I choose to be alone even if it feels like shit. My brother told me about the film and I watched it. It was so encouraging to see that someone took the time to represent the organization truthfully. Bravo. It's not only informative, it's actually a good film. I'm a gigantic movie buff, and I really do think the film has merit. Thank you for making me feel slightly less alone.

    • @GABRIELA-ACEVEDO.
      @GABRIELA-ACEVEDO. Год назад

      I'm 3 years late here. But you did right thing. I left when I was 16 years old. I'm 42 now. Never got disfellowedship I guess because I just left out of town at a young age. 12 years ago when my sister got married and I was at the kingdom hall, all the people that were still there from before still talked to me. But they all know I have no intention of ever going back. I hope everything is working out for you these days.

  • @pfscpublic
    @pfscpublic 6 лет назад +1

    I saw this film last night and was hooked all the way through, that aspect ratio makes a huge difference to the experience too. As an atheist I was perplexed about the JWs as I have two regular Jamaican ladies who come round and I make tea for them because they are so nice. This is explains why they are so keen to try to get me to come to their meetings and are trying to target my daughter. A fascinating film I'd recommend, the Solomon scene was just perfect.Good interview and a welcome break from Kemrode's baby boomer persona.

  • @catmeow333
    @catmeow333 4 года назад

    I found this interview this morning, October 2020. 14 months ago I woke up. I’d like to see this film. I was impressed with Daniels humbleness and sincerity and of course LLoyds professional presentation. Thank you both. Your work is saving people from much distress.
    I hear many exjws say “at least I (he, she) wasn’t baptized. I was baptized but I don’t understand what difference it makes. Once a relationship is found to be broken, untrue or hurtful in my opinion it’s OVER. A spiritual disconnect making all false promises null and void.

  • @RiaCottingham
    @RiaCottingham 6 лет назад +1

    I watched this film on Friday, it’s definitely worth watching. Daniel has done himself proud, and the characters were so spot on!
    It made me cry in many places and cringe in a few too 😂
    Thank u so much for this video, Lloyd, it was great to see Daniel talking about how he made this film 😊

  • @lynngardner3330
    @lynngardner3330 6 лет назад +7

    Once the movie is released in the USA I wonder if elders will be making announcements in congregations telling Wittnesses they are forbidden to watch the movie.

  • @jdterrell
    @jdterrell 6 лет назад +4

    Dan nails it, right down to the tiniest details. Great film, hard to watch but great.

  • @mrswonderful4880
    @mrswonderful4880 6 лет назад +22

    Guess it'll be a late night for me. Heading over to Amazon to buy it.

    • @audreyhepburn2038
      @audreyhepburn2038 6 лет назад +1

      It’s saying September to buy it! I am so disappointed I really wanted to see it!

    • @SusanGaskin
      @SusanGaskin 6 лет назад +3

      You can buy it or rent it in iTunes now.

    • @mrswonderful4880
      @mrswonderful4880 6 лет назад +3

      Rented in through Amazon prime

    • @sezsyd9477
      @sezsyd9477 6 лет назад

      Susan Gaskin hey Susan how do you find it in iTunes ? I put the name in search but doesn’t come up as film :(

    • @Onazzz808
      @Onazzz808 6 лет назад

      I’m in Hawaii (USA) and I use the Amazon Firestick which allowed me to buy it for $4.99 thru Amazon Prime membership, & you have the movie for 30 days.

  • @slovenkas7733
    @slovenkas7733 6 лет назад

    CAN'T WAIT to watch it! Side note: your intro song is so great. It IS finally over. And I couldn't be happier.

  • @lisajane4330
    @lisajane4330 6 лет назад +1

    I bought the DVD & finally watched it a few days ago, what a great film! I especially loved the actor who played Luisa, she was brilliant. If anything it felt like a mellowed down version of a JW's life.
    I've already lent it to a friend who is a psychologist who mentioned she had a lot of clients who were JW's so I'm sure it will help her.
    Thanks so much for sharing this Lloyd! 🙂

  • @ktm2079
    @ktm2079 6 лет назад +9

    Ooh, I’m looking forward to hearing this!

  • @janespitfire9884
    @janespitfire9884 6 лет назад +4

    Bravo ! Glad you took time to do this especially for shunned people

  • @patrickmoore2031
    @patrickmoore2031 6 лет назад +4

    Enjoyed the northern accents. I live in Arkansas but lived in Yorkshire as a kid. The accents are in my soul. If we have one.

  • @720reddog
    @720reddog 6 лет назад +5

    Friedrich Nietzsche and the JW'S:
    In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule./The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently./ Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truths than lies. /He who cannot obey himself will be commanded. That is the nature of living creatures./Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed. /I was in darkness, but I took three steps and found myself in paradise. The first step was a good thought, the second, a good word; and the third, a good deed./You must be ready to burn yourself in your own flame. How could you rise anew if you have not first become ashes?

  • @tomz4332
    @tomz4332 6 лет назад +13

    Looking forward to watching the film! Good stuff

  • @eviewright4908
    @eviewright4908 6 лет назад +5

    Can't wait to see this film. As far as I can see from the trailer this is almost identical to myself and my husband's story.

  • @GABRIELA-ACEVEDO.
    @GABRIELA-ACEVEDO. Год назад

    Every detail in the movie was spot on. I'm so happy I've been out since 1996. There are more things that I wish they would show one day on how young people there are only there out of obligation. Me and friends would curse outside the hall after meetings, talk about things not related to the meetings. Everytime I see a youngster out there preaching, I think to myself how much he doesn't want to be there. There are so many more things that happen there.

  • @gfmay
    @gfmay 6 лет назад +1

    WOW, and congratulations Danial KoKotajlo on your heart rending film Apostacy. I have just watched this here in Dublin Ireland.
    As an ex JW since 1984 how glad I am to have escaped that CULT. This film is honest and factual as I speak from past and present experiences. To watch the mother (Siobhan Finneran) who may I add played an outstanding roll and portrayed the genuine brainwashed JW mother was not only heart breaking she and the factual story line is happening to thousands of family’s throughout the world and being orchestrated with precision by the deluded, murderous GB, who have no morality and love for anyone in this evil outlandish organisation. Jehovah will have His vengeance on them.

  • @helmutbalzer7842
    @helmutbalzer7842 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks John for another intresting interview! I think I'm enjoying the interviews the most, and fun being in Daniels home in London, and the brief story about your old hall you helped landscape.....Thanks and please make more videos.

  • @t_m_420
    @t_m_420 6 лет назад +1

    I actually got an ad for this film! It looks so good! Can't wait to see it! I love this interview!

  • @DavidTaylor-ki2ir
    @DavidTaylor-ki2ir 6 лет назад +4

    Great interview Lloyd! Can’t wait to get my own personal copy here in the US.

  • @matthewbird2678
    @matthewbird2678 6 лет назад +3

    Saw the film last night. Brought back many bad memories and brilliantly captured the weird ridiculousness of it all. Fantastic acting performances. I found the film made me very angry at the witness teachings, and the stupidity of the brainwashed...I include my own family in that....heartbreaking that most will never get out of this cult.

  • @tinyaboo
    @tinyaboo 6 лет назад +4

    Fantastic! i cant wait to see the film. im also so pleased that he will make more about the Witnesses in the future!🖒

  • @izzymora7666
    @izzymora7666 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks for letting us know about this movie. It was certainly a good watch and a very accurate portrayal of what goes on in JW’s mind.

  • @TheCookiecupcakes
    @TheCookiecupcakes 6 лет назад +3

    I left in 2016, not because I didn't believe it anymore but because I decided I would rather just die in Armageddon. Giving up on "everlasting life" was the best thing ive ever done! Still hard to get out of that headspace but the more time passes the less and less I care.

  • @X_Leonhart
    @X_Leonhart 6 лет назад +9

    Really nice interview. Hope the film gets translated to as many languages as possible.

  • @PiccolaMonalisa
    @PiccolaMonalisa 6 лет назад +10

    I will be renting in from Amazon tonight, bring the tissues...

  • @justmeauthentic2115
    @justmeauthentic2115 6 лет назад +1

    I’m going to get this on Amazon tomorrow. From the trailer, I can tell it’s very accurate. Thanks for this interview and sharing it. Can’t wait to watch the movie!

  • @stevemcgill2278
    @stevemcgill2278 5 лет назад +1

    Saw it this morning on Sky, very accurate portrayal, an organisation that never understood John 3:16.

  • @RandomPerson-js3rc
    @RandomPerson-js3rc 6 лет назад +3

    The actors were so convincing I had to remind myself they were actors and not actually Jehovah's witnesses.

  • @purpleladytoo23
    @purpleladytoo23 5 лет назад

    Excellent work bro..this film looks spot on!..I want all JWs and Ex JWs to see it..and consider this..What if it was our Job to walk through this cult..experience it and leave it so that we could shed light on the hidden and abusive practices that go on in Cults..including mass brainwashing?..To Leave as we know..was excruciatingly tough for some of us..but we made it across the bridge..now let's be that bridge that hand of help for our brothers and sisters still trapped in their shame, guilt and unhappiness.,because we were the System Busters..and now its much easier for folks to see the way out..Well Done All....Blessings all..

  • @bibbitty
    @bibbitty Год назад

    I've been following you for a while, and I missed this interview & movie! Just watched both last night - wowzer. I still can't believe this shit is real. I loved the film. I cried way too many times. It breaks my heart. This is a great interview and a great lead into the film. Thank you for sharing!

  • @whitespace7130
    @whitespace7130 6 лет назад +4

    I really enjoyed this interview - can't wait to see the film.

  • @endlessorbaggins8223
    @endlessorbaggins8223 6 лет назад +3

    I think the movie is also available here on youtube for rental.

  • @andreadiamond7115
    @andreadiamond7115 6 лет назад +7

    Looking forward to seeing this movie.

  • @rosvlinds
    @rosvlinds 6 лет назад +11

    ohhh i've heard of this movie i need to see it

  • @kbar4381
    @kbar4381 6 лет назад +2

    A great movie that reminds me how lucky I am to have escaped this horrid, controlling cult of Jehovah's Witnesses. Thank you for this interview!